Re: Newbie with the Hardware Instrumentation - HIS

2010-08-31 Thread Mauri Kanter
What a pitty that the .MAP file can not be given as input to IPCS when 
browsing the system trace  It could be cool, isn't it ?

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Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4

2010-08-31 Thread R.S.

Pinnacle pisze:
[...]

Brad Wissink bjwi...@iastate.edu 8/30/2010 2:53 PM 

We started getting the following message from our EMC DMX4 Symmetrix over
the weekend.  We are talking with EMC  but not getting very far.  So, 
does

anyone know what the message is telling us?

*IEA480E 400D,DASD,MODERATE ALERT,MT=2105,SER=0507-03966, 259
REFCODE=E467-0471-,VOLSER=DB0022,ID=01,SENSE=1B10
0D268F01
8F44 7114 07000F7E 0001E467 05100200 FE00



Brad,

Scott's right.  There is no excuse for EMC not to know EXACTLY what this 
message means.  I would have serious doubts about any DASD vendor who 
could not decipher this message on their own hardware.  Ridiculous.


How do you know that your assumption is true? We were talking with EMC 
could mean everything. Not every EMC employee is CE, not every talk is 
problem submission, not every not getting very far means that EMC 
technician doesn't know the explanation or didn't presented it to the 
customer.

Disclaimer: I'm not neither EMC, nor customer attorney.

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Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-31 Thread R.S.

Staller, Allan pisze:

Any Crypto Assist processors present? Makes a big difference!


IMHO it depends.

1. BIG difference is for CPACF, which is present in every mainframe 
since z/990 and usually enabled. Crypto cards are much slower and do not 
increase the process (CPACF enabled is pre-req for crypto cards).


2. The software must be willing to use ICSF services or CPACF directly, 
otherwise no crypto HW would change anything. IBM EF does.


3. For some encrypting products including CA ones zIIP is your friend. 
Such workload can run on zIIP. While it won't change total CPU cycles, 
it could make huge difference in software bills.


BTW: I would SERIOUSLY re-think if I really need encrypted tapes. If the 
answer is still YES, then I would use H/W encryption built-in tape 
drives. My $0.02


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Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-31 Thread R.S.

Phil Smith pisze:

Staller, Allan wrote:

Any Crypto Assist processors present? Makes a big difference!


I'm sure Allan knows this, but I wanted to elaborate: be careful. There are two crypto assist processors available on 
System z: the Crypto Express (aka CEX, pronounced, well, with a soft C, available as CEX2 and 
CEX3, at least on z10/zEnterprise) and Central Processor Assist for Cryptographic Functions (aka CPACF, 
usually pronounced see-paff, with the second C being silent -- particularly funny, since it's for the most 
important word in the name!).


AFAIR there was no Crypto Express 1. The name was PCIXCC and PCICC 
before that and nothing before PCICC (I'm talking about CC cards 
family only).



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Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-08-31 Thread Fran Hernandez
Hello,

Thank you very much to those who have answered my problem.
Further information in this regard:
1) and FTP TRSMAIN was performed by a person of another a few months' 
data center.  The TRSMAIN I have attached the job but do not have FTP 
executed.
2) Deputy shipping the first 12 bytes of the file from one of the files 
you've 
loaded with IND $ FILE. My feeling is that something was done incorrectly, but 
I have no means to detect it.

I would appreciate your help and experience of it.

Thank you very much.

Fran

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0C60001B0590 
0ADF2080 


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Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-08-31 Thread Yifat Oren
Hi Fran,

DDNAME: INFILE DSNAME: NOSMS.FILE.PDS 

The name of the input data set suggests a PDS; Is it?
TERSE can only handle sequential (PS) data sets (if I remember correctly).

Using the newer AMATERSE may (or may not :)  ) produce clearer error
messages.

Best Regards,
Yifat

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Subject: Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

Hello,

Thank you very much to those who have answered my problem.
Further information in this regard:
1) and FTP TRSMAIN was performed by a person of another a few months' 
data center.  The TRSMAIN I have attached the job but do not have FTP
executed.
2) Deputy shipping the first 12 bytes of the file from one of the files
you've loaded with IND $ FILE. My feeling is that something was done
incorrectly, but I have no means to detect it.

I would appreciate your help and experience of it.

Thank you very much.

Fran

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Re: Enterprise Cobol

2010-08-31 Thread Jousma, David
No, what I am saying is that the downleveled systems may not have all
the LE support installed.  As was in our case.


snip
Are you saying that z/OS 1.12 as delivered doesn't have all the LE
maintenance required for Enterprise COBOL V4R2?

 

I strongly doubt that.  It might have been true for z/OS 1.11, but I
doubt
it for 1.12.

 

HAVING SAID THAT,

  As far as I know IBM has always (strongly) recommended (and still
does)
that your roll-out new releases (or maintenance levels) of LE to all
parts
of your production environment BEFORE starting to allow a new release of
COBOL (or PL/I) to be used in any of them.


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Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-08-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
 
 Hello,
 
 Thank you very much to those who have answered my problem.
 Further information in this regard:
 1) and FTP TRSMAIN was performed by a person of another a few months'
 data center.  The TRSMAIN I have attached the job but do not have FTP
 executed.
 2) Deputy shipping the first 12 bytes of the file from one of the
 files you've loaded with IND $ FILE. My feeling is that something was
 done incorrectly, but I have no means to detect it.
 
 I would appreciate your help and experience of it.
 
 Thank you very much.

TRSMAIN was enhanced to support PDSE in 2007; it is called AMATERSE and
supports PDSEs. AMATERSE is part of the z/OS V1R9 BCP.

So you should find a copy of the new and improved AMATRSE in your shipped
system from IBM. 

I would make sure you are using the most current version of
TRSMAIN/AMATERSE.

Also note the following enhancements

  o   Sequential data sets are supported. VSAM data sets and
  direct (DSORG=DA) data sets are not supported.

  o   Partitioned data sets are supported, but only by MVS
  AMATERSE. A PDS compressed by AMATERSE on MVS and sent to
  VM cannot be restored by TERSE. This results in a 1007 or
  1009 return code from VM TERSE. A PDS must be compressed
  to a Direct Access Storage Device (DASD).

  o   Partitioned data sets extended (PDSE) are supported, but
  only by MVS AMATERSE.

  o   Files restored by AMATERSE with LRECL of more than 32K
  cannot be handled except that RECFM=VBS data sets are
  allowed to be up to 64K LRECL.

  o   Large format (DSNTYPE=LARGE) data sets may require the use
  of AMATERSE both for compression and restoration.

  o   A data set with the FB record format can be packed and
  unpacked to a FBS data set. However, during the UNPACK
  operation, extending a non-empty output data set with
  DISP=MOD is not possible because this results in a FB
  data set. An error message is issued for this.

More info can be found in APAR  OA19194

Lizette


 

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Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-08-31 Thread Bob Shannon
So you should find a copy of the new and improved AMATRSE in your shipped 
system from IBM.

He said he's running 1.6, so this isn't an option.

Here's what you can do:

1. XMIT the PDS to a sequential dataset
2. Terse the sequential dataset
3. IND$FILE (binary) the tersed file (presumably to a PC)
4. Upload (IND$FILE) binary to a sequential dataset (same DCB as from Step 2)
5. Unterse the file (Same DCB as in Step 1)
6. RECEIVE the input file to create a PDS

I haven't used IND$FILE in years so I may have missed something.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-31 Thread Greg Boyd
Version 1.1 of the Encryption Facility uses the crypto coprocessor (secure 
key) to encrypt the data if you specify ENCTDES in the input parms.  It also 
uses the crypto coprocessor to encrypt the data key if you specify the RSA 
parm (along with the key label for a public/privae key pair).  The point being 
that if you specify either the ENCTDES or the RSA parm, you must have a 
crypto coprocessor available.

Version 1.2 is identical to Version 1.1 in terms of supporting zFormat, so the 
crypto coprocessor is required if you specify either of those parms.

The new function added in Version 1.2 of the Encrpytion Facility was support 
for OpenPGP.  This support was designed to comply with rfc2440, and will also 
take advantage of the available hardware as appropriate. Since its Java 
based, it can also take advantage of zIIP engines if available.

Hope that helps.
Greg

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Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4

2010-08-31 Thread Bill Fairchild
Radoslaw has a good point.  On the other hand, EMC has people who monitor this 
server.  Someone at EMC could/should have jumped on this several days ago.  Any 
vendor that does NOT monitor this server and respond quickly to potential bad 
publicity is acting foolishly, IMHO.

Caveat:  I assumed that the OP was correct in saying that the vendor involved 
is EMC and in reproducing the error messages.

Bill Fairchild
Rocket Software

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Subject: Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4

Pinnacle pisze:
 Brad Wissink bjwi...@iastate.edu 8/30/2010 2:53 PM 
 We started getting the following message from our EMC DMX4 Symmetrix over
 the weekend.  We are talking with EMC  but not getting very far.  So, 
 does
 anyone know what the message is telling us?

 *IEA480E 400D,DASD,MODERATE ALERT,MT=2105,SER=0507-03966, 259
 REFCODE=E467-0471-,VOLSER=DB0022,ID=01,SENSE=1B10
 0D268F01
 8F44 7114 07000F7E 0001E467 05100200 FE00

 
 Brad,
 
 Scott's right.  There is no excuse for EMC not to know EXACTLY what this 
 message means.  I would have serious doubts about any DASD vendor who 
 could not decipher this message on their own hardware.  Ridiculous.

How do you know that your assumption is true? We were talking with EMC 
could mean everything. Not every EMC employee is CE, not every talk is 
problem submission, not every not getting very far means that EMC 
technician doesn't know the explanation or didn't presented it to the 
customer.
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Re: isolating sensitive data in coupling facility

2010-08-31 Thread Patrick Kappeler
Thank you Radoslaw, interesting indeed, and unquestionable, viewpoint.
In fact we are foreseeing some restrictions, brought by some standards, that 
would prohibit data with different security classes to reside in the same 
storage device. Something that you can question from the technical standpoint 
but being discussed here at the regulation level (like installations which were 
requiring air gap between OS/390 instances and didn't want to know about 
logical partitions, a few years ago ...)
By the way, can you confirm that a structure will **never** be allocated in a 
CF not in the preference list (be it for initial allocation or for 
rebuilod/duplexing) ?
Thanks a lot. 

--
 Date:Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:33:43 -0500
 From:R.S.  Subject: Re: isolating sensitive data in coupling facility
 
 Well... Why? Why should one need better isolation?
 Some thoughts:
 AFAIK CF services require authorization. Since you're authorized you can
 bypass security rules.
 The power described above cover MVS image, not whole sysplex. However
 parallel sysplex is not loosely connected group of MVS systems (like PC
 workstation in LAN), it is set of trusted MVS images, single scope of
 management, security etc. 
 So if you can breach one system, then it's as bad as breach all the systems
 in a sysplex. I mean data security, not system availability.
 Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka
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From:Patrick Kappeler pkappe...@wanadoo.fr
Subject: isolating sensitive data in coupling facility
Hi - It looks like my first post didn't get through to the list - My apologies 
if 
this 
appears to be a duplicate -
We are looking for ways of ensuring proper data isolation when they reside 
in 
coupling facilities' cache structures (although it is not clear as to which 
threats 
data are exposed to by cohabiting with other data, all of them contained in 
different structures, in the same coupling facility).
We are assuming here that access control to the structures is provided by 
RACF IXLSTR profiles and enforced by the connecting applications. 
Reasoning at the nuts and bolts level, it looks like the CFRM preference list 
is 
providing what we are looking for in that structures containing highly 
sensitive 
data could be stored in their own dedicated CF (translating this into 
applications development and deployment rules will probably be another 
story ) 
Anyway, the books that I read are clearly stating that The system will not 
allocate a structure in any coupling facility that is not listed in the 
structure's 
preference list, however I wanted to check with sysplex literates that I did 
not 
miss fine prints that would explain that it could be overriden in such and 
such 
specific case ...
Thanks in advance   
Patrick Kappeler 

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Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4

2010-08-31 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Lucky it's not a DMX3, apparently. :) 

‘Unprecedented’ storage failure disrupts US state
31 August 2010   

One-in-a-billion’ SAN glitch followed by redundant system failure affects a 
third 
of Virginia's government agencies
Citizens in the US state of Virginia were unable to access a number of public 
services after the state government’s storage area network (SAN) suffered 
an ‘unprecedented’ hardware failure. 

The SAN, a DMX-3 from storage infrastructure vendor EMC, failed last 
Wednesday afternoon, causing 228 of the Virginia Information Technologies 
Agency’s (VITA) servers to crash. Critically, VITA’s redundant systems – the 
spare infrastructure designed to take the strain when primary systems fail – 
also malfunctioned. 

Interesting Links
IBM takes blame for Singapore bank outage Big Blue concedes that 
employee’s “procedural error” was responsible for seven-hour outage after 
Asian bank points finger

This outage disrupted services for 27 state agencies, including the Department 
of Motor Vehicles (DMV), Department of Taxation and the State Board of 
Elections. Most of the services were back online by yesterday morning but the 
DMV is still unable to issue driver’s licenses.

EMC told VITA that the outage was “unprecedented”, according to a 
statement from Virginia’s secretary of technology Jim Duffey. “The 
manufacturer reports that the system and its underlying technology have an 
exemplary history of reliability, industry-leading data availability of more 
than 
99.999 percent and no similar failure has occurred”

VITA is now “working tirelessly” to restore lost data, Duffey said. 

Earlier, this year US email hosting provider Intermedia suffered an outage 
after 
a hardware failure in its EMC storage area network. “This failure caused the 
entire load for that SAN to be shifted to the service processor on the 
redundant controller node,” the company said at the time. “The spare capacity 
on the single service processor was not enough to handle the entire load of all 
systems connected to the SAN.”

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Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4

2010-08-31 Thread Pinnacle
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Pinnacle pisze:
[...]

Brad Wissink bjwi...@iastate.edu 8/30/2010 2:53 PM 
We started getting the following message from our EMC DMX4 Symmetrix 
over
the weekend.  We are talking with EMC  but not getting very far.  So, 
does

anyone know what the message is telling us?

*IEA480E 400D,DASD,MODERATE ALERT,MT=2105,SER=0507-03966, 259
REFCODE=E467-0471-,VOLSER=DB0022,ID=01,SENSE=1B10
0D268F01
8F44 7114 07000F7E 0001E467 05100200 FE00



Brad,

Scott's right.  There is no excuse for EMC not to know EXACTLY what this 
message means.  I would have serious doubts about any DASD vendor who 
could not decipher this message on their own hardware.  Ridiculous.


How do you know that your assumption is true? We were talking with EMC 
could mean everything. Not every EMC employee is CE, not every talk is 
problem submission, not every not getting very far means that EMC 
technician doesn't know the explanation or didn't presented it to the 
customer.

Disclaimer: I'm not neither EMC, nor customer attorney.



I took the OP at his word.  Bottom line is that someone at EMC should know 
the EXACT meaning of this error message.  It is usually incumbent on the 
vendor to put the customer in touch with that person, not incumbent on the 
customer to mount a wumpus hunt for that person within EMC.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-08-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 31 August 2010 06:19, Fran Hernandez frcoh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Thank you very much to those who have answered my problem.
 Further information in this regard:
 1) and FTP TRSMAIN was performed by a person of another a few months'
 data center.  The TRSMAIN I have attached the job but do not have FTP
 executed.
 2) Deputy shipping the first 12 bytes of the file from one of the files 
 you've
 loaded with IND $ FILE. My feeling is that something was done incorrectly, but
 I have no means to detect it.

 0C60001B0590
 0ADF2080

This certainly doesn't look like a valid terse header. There is no IBM
doc on the header format, but from lots of previous eyeballing, the
first bytes work something like this:

Offset 00 is the compression/encoding algorithm 02=PACK, 05-SPACK,
07-PDS[E] PACK, 09=PDS[E] SPACK
Offset 01 is 00 for fixed records (F), or 01 for variable (V or U)
Offset 02 is the 2-byte LRECL (with some oddities for VB)
Offset 04 is flags that encode aspects of the RECFM in combination
with byte 1, e.g 0C would be FB or VB.
Offset 06 is the 2-byte blocksize.

So either this is not the output of TRSMAIN, or perhaps it has been
passed through something like a mangling character translation, or
perhaps it is not the actual start of the file.

I'm sorry I can't help based on this.

Tony H.

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Re: isolating sensitive data in coupling facility

2010-08-31 Thread Scott Fagen
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:43:55 -0500, Patrick Kappeler wrote:

-snip-
In fact we are foreseeing some restrictions, brought by some standards, that
would prohibit data with different security classes to reside in the same
storage device. 
-snip-

What regulations are you referring to?  I would think that the vendors in
the ecosystem (hardware - processors and storage - and software) would have
some influence about such regulations.  For example, why would IBM continue
to pursue increasingly higher EAL common criteria certification if customers
were not going to be able to use logical partitioning.  By the way, if the
interpretation of this regulation is what you say it is, then you really
cannot mix applications within a single z/OS instance, right?

Scott Fagen
Chief Architect 
CA Mainframe CSU

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Re: Need help for MODID ERROR BECAUSE OF UMID

2010-08-31 Thread Pinnacle
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On Aug 31, 3:39 pm, Gaur gaur.ravi2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Aug 30, 6:11 pm, imrose suleman imrose.sule...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to apply(check) a PTF UA55170 but it failed throwing MODID
 error messages GIM38201W
 GIM31902I because of usermod (say abcdefg). so I tried to restore the
 usermod abcdefg and it was successful. But while applying(check) the
 PTF UA55170 again I received the same modid error messages. And I
 could see even though all the entries for the usemof abcdefg have been
 removed , One of the macro $HASXB is having UMID as abcdefg. I don't
 know how to eliminate this modid error and apply the ptf UA55170.

 Can anyone help in this regard? thanks in advance

 Regards,
 Imrose sk

how about BYPASS(ID)



I have tried that option but of no use. finally I used .hammer UCLIN to
remove the UMID entry and this time it went fine. some packaging flaw
of IBM..


Imrose,

That's a mistake unless you did the UCLIN under IBM direction.  IBM doesn't 
make packaging errors that aren't APAR'ed.  Zapping the UMID of your JES 
elements on your own initiative is a really bad idea.  It sounds from your 
note as if you don't know for sure that it was a packaging error.  You may 
have hosed your SMP/E environment.  If it was a real IBM packaging error, 
please pot the information so that we can all benefit.


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Check out Tropical Storm: Tracking Map : Weather Underground

2010-08-31 Thread Ed Finnell
_Tropical  Storm: Tracking Map : Weather Underground_ 
(http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201007.html)  
 
If you work on the East Coast probably need to be on 'Active Alert'.  Ryder 
gave a good presentation at SHARE following Albert. One of the key points  
was that Hurricanes have the potential to be big and geographically  
dispersed. You need to insure people coverage and backups at all points of  
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Re: Check out Tropical Storm: Tracking Map : Weather Underground

2010-08-31 Thread Kelman, Tom
Well, I don't live there now, but I grew up in the Maryland part of the
Delmarva peninsula about 25 miles from Ocean City, MD., and I still have
friends there.  Donna came through that area as a category 2 when I was
13.  It had originally hit the Florida Keys and the southern tip of
Florida on the west side as a category 4 then about half way up Florida
it cut across to the Atlantic side and hugged the east coast at
hurricane strength all the way into Maine.  It is the only hurricane on
record to do that.  While Earl is going to hit further up on the
Atlantic side, it looks like it's going all the way up to Maine also.


Tom Kelman
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Commerce Bank, Kansas City

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Re: isolating sensitive data in coupling facility

2010-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
By the way, can you confirm that a structure will **never** be allocated in a 
CF not in the preference list (be it for initial allocation or for 
rebuilod/duplexing) ?

The documentation says that.
But, there is a way to test that:

a. Assume you have two CF's.
b. Let's call them CF01  CF02.
c.  Create a structure with only one of them in the preference list -- say CF01.
d. Use the operator command(s) to manually move the structure to CF02.

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Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4

2010-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
EMC told VITA that the outage was “unprecedented”

Precedent: A certain bank, in Toronto, had a similar failure many years ago 
(mid-1990's).
Albeit, it was older technology, but the primary and secondary failed.

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Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Benik, John E
Does anybody know of a way to prevent the following from happening when
setting numbers off?  Short of going into every member of a PDS I have
not found a way to prevent this.  We have tried profile lock and a
number of other things without success.
 
-CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF).   
  Data has valid standard numbers.  
 
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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread McKown, John
Use an initial macro. The PDF editor apparently is designed so that if it 
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Re: Check out Tropical Storm: Tracking Map : Weather Underground

2010-08-31 Thread Scott Rowe
I was at our house on the Bay when Hurricane Agnes hit in '72, it wasn't pretty.
 
The real danger with Earl will be if it hits New York head on, then we could be 
talking serious damage, it could be one of the worst in history if it still a 
Cat 3 or more.  Most of lower Manhattan could be flooded.

 Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com 8/31/2010 2:17 PM 
Well, I don't live there now, but I grew up in the Maryland part of the
Delmarva peninsula about 25 miles from Ocean City, MD., and I still have
friends there.  Donna came through that area as a category 2 when I was
13.  It had originally hit the Florida Keys and the southern tip of
Florida on the west side as a category 4 then about half way up Florida
it cut across to the Atlantic side and hugged the east coast at
hurricane strength all the way into Maine.  It is the only hurricane on
record to do that.  While Earl is going to hit further up on the
Atlantic side, it looks like it's going all the way up to Maine also.


Tom Kelman
Capacity Planning
Commerce Bank, Kansas City

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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Pinnacle
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From: Benik, John E john_e_be...@uhc.com

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
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Subject: Set numbers off permanently.



Does anybody know of a way to prevent the following from happening when
setting numbers off?  Short of going into every member of a PDS I have
not found a way to prevent this.  We have tried profile lock and a
number of other things without success.

-CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF).   
 Data has valid standard numbers.  


John Benik


Hey John,

If you want to suppress this for all time, create an IMACRO to do this:

NUM ON
UNNUM
NUM OFF

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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Dave Salt
Create a simple edit macro that does a NUMBER OFF. Apply the macro to every 
member of the PDS (e.g. by using a product like SimpList or one of the free 
tools on the CBT). If every member has number off, they should no longer keep 
switching to number on.

Alternatively, create the same edit macro and set it as an initial macro. That 
way, every time you go into a member it will turn numbers off for that one 
specific member.

HTH,
 
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 setting numbers off?  Short of going into every member of a PDS I have
 not found a way to prevent this.  We have tried profile lock and a
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 -CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF).   
   Data has valid standard numbers.  
  
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Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-08-31 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 05:19:05 -0500, Fran Hernandez wrote:

Hello,

Thank you very much to those who have answered my problem.
Further information in this regard:
1) and FTP TRSMAIN was performed by a person of another a few months' 
data center.  The TRSMAIN I have attached the job but do not have FTP 
executed.
2) Deputy shipping the first 12 bytes of the file from one of the files 
you've 
loaded with IND $ FILE. My feeling is that something was done incorrectly,
but I have no means to detect it.

I would appreciate your help and experience of it.

Thank you very much.

Fran

(attachment G:TWELVE BYTES.TXT)

0C60001B0590
0ADF2080


The 12-byte hex dump in the attachment to your message is identical to the 
first 12 bytes, after the BDW and SDW, of an IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS. I don't 
think this data would not be at the beginning of a TRSMAIN file, although it 
might be compressed and imbedded somewhere further into a TRSMAIN file. 
Are you sure the file that was sent to the windows server, and the file that 
was sent back via IND$FILE, was produced by TRSMAIN? It looks like it was 
produced by IEBCOPY.

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RMM Volume Delete fails.

2010-08-31 Thread Hal Merritt
I have an operator trying to delete a volume:

//IDCAMS1  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  *
  DELETE (Vxx) VOLUMEENTRY PURGE

He is failing:

ICH408I USER(opuser) GROUP(usergrp) NAME(operator)  233
   SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL CL(DATASET ) VOL(volser)
   INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
   FROM SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL (G)
   ACCESS INTENT(ALTER  )  ACCESS ALLOWED(UPDATE )


The FM:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i280/A.1?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0H.bksDT=20090603090124#TBLVOLCA

states that ALTER to FACILITY STGADMIN.IGG.LIBRARY should do the trick. 
However, as you can see, it don't.

The RACF folks don't see anything wrong with the profiles.

Any ideas?



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Re: RMM Volume Delete fails.

2010-08-31 Thread Mark Pace
It appears he has authority to issue the command,  but not
to actually update that dataset.  It's complying about security on the
dataset not the command.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote:

 I have an operator trying to delete a volume:

 //IDCAMS1  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
 //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
 //SYSINDD  *
  DELETE (Vxx) VOLUMEENTRY PURGE

 He is failing:

 ICH408I USER(opuser) GROUP(usergrp) NAME(operator)  233
   SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL CL(DATASET ) VOL(volser)
   INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
   FROM SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL (G)
   ACCESS INTENT(ALTER  )  ACCESS ALLOWED(UPDATE )


 The FM:

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i280/A.1?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0H.bksDT=20090603090124#TBLVOLCA

 states that ALTER to FACILITY STGADMIN.IGG.LIBRARY should do the trick.
 However, as you can see, it don't.

 The RACF folks don't see anything wrong with the profiles.

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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Does anybody know of a way to prevent the following from happening when 
setting numbers off?

I've done it with an initial EDIT MACRO.
Within that, if numbers are on, turn them off.
I forget the exact ISREDIT query/sub-command, but there is one that will tell 
you about numbers.

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Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4

2010-08-31 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2010-08-31 18:23, Pinnacle pisze:

- Original Message - From: R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4



Pinnacle pisze:
[...]

Brad Wissink bjwi...@iastate.edu 8/30/2010 2:53 PM 

We started getting the following message from our EMC DMX4 Symmetrix
over
the weekend. We are talking with EMC but not getting very far. So, does
anyone know what the message is telling us?

*IEA480E 400D,DASD,MODERATE ALERT,MT=2105,SER=0507-03966, 259
REFCODE=E467-0471-,VOLSER=DB0022,ID=01,SENSE=1B10
0D268F01
8F44 7114 07000F7E 0001E467 05100200 FE00



Brad,

Scott's right. There is no excuse for EMC not to know EXACTLY what
this message means. I would have serious doubts about any DASD vendor
who could not decipher this message on their own hardware. Ridiculous.


How do you know that your assumption is true? We were talking with
EMC could mean everything. Not every EMC employee is CE, not every
talk is problem submission, not every not getting very far means
that EMC technician doesn't know the explanation or didn't presented
it to the customer.
Disclaimer: I'm not neither EMC, nor customer attorney.



I took the OP at his word.

Why? Did the statement sound absolutely unambigously (clear-cut)?
Actually I have no reason to disbelieve him, but either no reason to 
believe every word or further assume that some formal actions happened.

It's my humble opinion.
And general rule of thumb, much less humble: DON'T BELIEVE. If someone 
tells you that IEFBR14 is abending, then DON'T BELIEVE HIM. CHECK EVERY 
INFORMATION PROVIDED. CHECK AGAIN.
(here is the place to put any fun story from computer support, like my 
application doesn't work, I can't check anything, cause it's dark, we 
have power failure).




Bottom line is that someone at EMC should
know the EXACT meaning of this error message.

I bet that SOMEONE (not necessarily everyone) knows it.



It is usually incumbent on
the vendor to put the customer in touch with that person, not incumbent
on the customer to mount a wumpus hunt for that person within EMC.

Well, NO.
I don't know what communication between customer na vendor did happen 
actually. So, I can talk generally: NO, it's customer responsibility to 
inform vendor in AGREED WAY that something happened. Informal 
communication may or may not cause any reaction.



Last, but not least: lack of EMC explanation on this forum proves 
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. This is not the place where they should discuss 
customers problems.


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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If you want to suppress this for all time, create an IMACRO to do this:

NUM ON
UNNUM
NUM OFF

NOT a good idea if there is valid data in the columns which hold statement 
numbers.

You should first check the mode, and just issue the NUM OFF.

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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 31 August 2010 14:39, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
 - Original Message - From: Benik, John E john_e_be...@uhc.com

 Does anybody know of a way to prevent the following from happening when
 setting numbers off?  Short of going into every member of a PDS I have
 not found a way to prevent this.  We have tried profile lock and a
 number of other things without success.

 -CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF).
        Data has valid standard numbers.

This has been a long standing complaint of mine with ISPF. In most
cases I want to be able to tell it *DO NOT FIDDLE WITH MY SETTINGS - I
KNOW THE WAY I WANT IT*. And I can't. It always knows best.

 If you want to suppress this for all time, create an IMACRO to do this:

 NUM ON
 UNNUM
 NUM OFF

The problem I have with this is that there are various cases where
that initial macro won't take effect, e.g. edit an empty member and
then copy the content of a member with valid numbers in. And the macro
has to be set up on system and userid you are using. Why on earth
can't they provide an option to truly lock some or all settings? CAPS
ON is the very worst, because it so easily destroys data.

Tony H.

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Re: RMM Volume Delete fails.

2010-08-31 Thread Starr, Alan
I believe that there may be something wrong with the FACILITY resource. I'm 
almost positive that it checks for the FACILITY before checking the catalog 
because FACILITY (RACLISTed) is potentially quicker.

It is defined and active?
The user or his group is in the access list?
You haven't just added this FACILITY or PErmitted this user (i.e. REFRESH 
RACLIST(FACILITY) needed)?

It may be necessary to use GTF to trace the RACF invocations to see what it is 
doing.

Alan 

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Subject: RMM Volume Delete fails.

I have an operator trying to delete a volume:

//IDCAMS1  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  *
  DELETE (Vxx) VOLUMEENTRY PURGE

He is failing:

ICH408I USER(opuser) GROUP(usergrp) NAME(operator)  233
   SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL CL(DATASET ) VOL(volser)
   INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
   FROM SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL (G)
   ACCESS INTENT(ALTER  )  ACCESS ALLOWED(UPDATE )


The FM:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i280/A.1?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0H.bksDT=20090603090124#TBLVOLCA

states that ALTER to FACILITY STGADMIN.IGG.LIBRARY should do the trick. 
However, as you can see, it don't.

The RACF folks don't see anything wrong with the profiles.

Any ideas?



Thanks!!

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Re: Check out Tropical Storm: Tracking Map : Weather Underground

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Schwab
I heard a story about a company.  Their data centers were in Miami and
New Orleans.  A hurricane approached Miami and they transferred
operations to New Orleans.  Miami was still picking up the pieces and
the data center had no power when the same hurricane approached New
Orleans a few days later, in 2005.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote:
 _Tropical  Storm: Tracking Map : Weather Underground_
 (http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201007.html)

 If you work on the East Coast probably need to be on 'Active Alert'.  Ryder
 gave a good presentation at SHARE following Albert. One of the key points
 was that Hurricanes have the potential to be big and geographically
 dispersed. You need to insure people coverage and backups at all points of
 recovery.
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Re: Check out Tropical Storm: Tracking Map : Weather Underground

2010-08-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 31 August 2010 14:17, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote:
 Well, I don't live there now, but I grew up in the Maryland part of the
 Delmarva peninsula about 25 miles from Ocean City, MD., and I still have
 friends there.  Donna came through that area as a category 2 when I was
 13.  It had originally hit the Florida Keys and the southern tip of
 Florida on the west side as a category 4 then about half way up Florida
 it cut across to the Atlantic side and hugged the east coast at
 hurricane strength all the way into Maine.  It is the only hurricane on
 record to do that.  While Earl is going to hit further up on the
 Atlantic side, it looks like it's going all the way up to Maine also.

At which point it will presumably fall off the edge of the known world
and cause no more trouble. Sort of like Isaac:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/hurricane_bound_for_texas_slowed

Tony H.

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Re: 3270 Emulator Software

2010-08-31 Thread Linda Mooney
Yeah, and Arthur Godfrey, the original Twilight Zone, Captain Kangaroo, and 
Fury. 



I have a local 3270 in my cube, along with a PC with emulation and dual 
monitors.  I used to have a real 3279 s3g.  It was wonderful, but I couldn't 
remote to it like I can the PC.  I like not having to drive in when I 'get the 
call' off-hours.  :-) 



Linda 

  
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Subject: Re: 3270 Emulator Software 

You forgot Rin, Tin, Tin and Hoppalong Cassidy  :-) Not to mention 
Roy Rogers, with Dale, Trigger, Buttermilk and a Jeep named Nelly 
Belle.  :-) 

Rick 
- 
Ed Finnell wrote: 

 
In a message dated 8/29/2010 9:02:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,   
zedgarhoo...@gmail.com writes: 
 
No, it's retro, like the 50s: remember those round TVs?  :-) 
 
 
   
 
Dumont and Zenith were big. Sky King, Cpt  Preston, Buster Brown, and Ruff 
and Ready. Evening news was 'Walter Concrete'  as my sister used to say. 
Somewhere along the way I got a chemistry set and an  ATT science kit and my 
lifelong adventure began... 
 
 
 
 
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Format of STCK

2010-08-31 Thread Micheal Butz

Hi

Would any know the format of the STCK inst
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Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4

2010-08-31 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
I think it is time I clarified a few things.  Our EMC Symmetrix is supported by 
our storage group while I support our mainframe.  There was some 
miscommunication at the start.  The storage group looked at what error messages 
they were getting and were told that these are only informational messages and 
could be ignored. Because of that the storage group did not think it was worth 
the effort to open an incident.  So when I thought we had talked with EMC and 
were not getting support we had not even opened an incident call.  Since I 
thought we should open an incident the storage group guru and I got together 
and it was decided I should open an incident.  Since then we have had great 
support.  EMC support called in and found out the problem is that the VDI 
data pool is at 91% full and the Symmetrix has been trying to phone home, but 
there was some problem and the calls were failing.  They have sent out a CE to 
fix both problems.  So from now on when we see a problem we will in!
 itiate an incident with EMC and the storage group will help us resolve it

I also want to thank everyone for the help here.  Using the information 
provided here we were going in the right direction and were close to resolving 
the problem ourselves.  

So thanks again for all the help.  

Brad Wissink
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University
515-294-3088

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W dniu 2010-08-31 18:23, Pinnacle pisze:
 - Original Message - From: R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl
 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:02 AM
 Subject: Re: DASD Moderate Alert from EMC DMX4


 Pinnacle pisze:
 [...]
 Brad Wissink bjwi...@iastate.edu 8/30/2010 2:53 PM 
 We started getting the following message from our EMC DMX4 Symmetrix
 over
 the weekend. We are talking with EMC but not getting very far. So, does
 anyone know what the message is telling us?

 *IEA480E 400D,DASD,MODERATE ALERT,MT=2105,SER=0507-03966, 259
 REFCODE=E467-0471-,VOLSER=DB0022,ID=01,SENSE=1B10
 0D268F01
 8F44 7114 07000F7E 0001E467 05100200 FE00


 Brad,

 Scott's right. There is no excuse for EMC not to know EXACTLY what
 this message means. I would have serious doubts about any DASD vendor
 who could not decipher this message on their own hardware. Ridiculous.

 How do you know that your assumption is true? We were talking with
 EMC could mean everything. Not every EMC employee is CE, not every
 talk is problem submission, not every not getting very far means
 that EMC technician doesn't know the explanation or didn't presented
 it to the customer.
 Disclaimer: I'm not neither EMC, nor customer attorney.


 I took the OP at his word.
Why? Did the statement sound absolutely unambigously (clear-cut)?
Actually I have no reason to disbelieve him, but either no reason to 
believe every word or further assume that some formal actions happened.
It's my humble opinion.
And general rule of thumb, much less humble: DON'T BELIEVE. If someone 
tells you that IEFBR14 is abending, then DON'T BELIEVE HIM. CHECK EVERY 
INFORMATION PROVIDED. CHECK AGAIN.
(here is the place to put any fun story from computer support, like my 
application doesn't work, I can't check anything, cause it's dark, we 
have power failure).


 Bottom line is that someone at EMC should
 know the EXACT meaning of this error message.
I bet that SOMEONE (not necessarily everyone) knows it.


 It is usually incumbent on
 the vendor to put the customer in touch with that person, not incumbent
 on the customer to mount a wumpus hunt for that person within EMC.
Well, NO.
I don't know what communication between customer na vendor did happen 
actually. So, I can talk generally: NO, it's customer responsibility to 
inform vendor in AGREED WAY that something happened. Informal 
communication may or may not cause any reaction.


Last, but not least: lack of EMC explanation on this forum proves 
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. This is not the place where they should discuss 
customers problems.

My €0.02
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Re: Format of STCK

2010-08-31 Thread McKown, John
STCK DATETME
...
DATETIME DS D

B205 is the opcode, followed by 4 bits for the Base and 12 bits for the 
displacement.

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Re: Format of STCK

2010-08-31 Thread Brian Kennelly
   STCK   D2(B2)   [S]


  
   | 'B205' | B2 | D2 |
   ||||
   016   20  31

The current value of bits 0-63 of the TOD clock is stored in the eight-byte
field designated by the second-operand address, provided the clock is in the
set, stopped, or not-set state.

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How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation

2010-08-31 Thread Lynd, Eugene C.
I need to determine this for an existing sequential dataset.  I see
where use of RLSE is indicated in the JFCB,

but not in a DSCB.   I must be missing something.  

 

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zFS question

2010-08-31 Thread Bill Johnson
I ran an smpe accept for a new product and didn't have the intended zFS file 
mounted. The zFS files all went to the root directory. How do I fix this?

TIA




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Re: How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation

2010-08-31 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation
 
 I need to determine this for an existing sequential dataset.  I see
 where use of RLSE is indicated in the JFCB,
 
 but not in a DSCB.   I must be missing something.  
 
 Gene Lynd

RLSE is not in the DSCB. It is, as you've seen, in the JCL SPACE parameter. 
Which is translated into the JFCB. The catalog (and VVDS?) keep the SMS 
MGMTCLAS assigned to the dataset, if any. In the MGMTCLAS has the PARTIAL 
RELEASE data which one of: YES, NO, YES - IMMEDIATE, CONDITIONAL, CONDITIONAL 
- IMMEDIATE.

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Re: zFS question

2010-08-31 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: zFS question
 
 I ran an smpe accept for a new product and didn't have the 
 intended zFS file 
 mounted. The zFS files all went to the root directory. How do 
 I fix this?
 
 TIA

All that I can think of is to review the SMP/E output and use mv to move the 
UNIX files to the correct filesystem. That is, mount the zFS at some other 
subdirectory temporarily. mv the files to the temporary subdirectory upon 
which the filesystem is mounted. unmount the filesystem. mount it on the 
correct subdirectory.

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123 extents and VTOC fmt 3

2010-08-31 Thread R.S.

I just RTFMed some documentation and few questions arrived to my mind.

VTOC fmt 3 record contains information about extents 4-16-th for older 
type datasets (like PDS, PS non EF, DA). It also contains link to 
another fmt 3 record - that's for newer type datasets.
Up to 10 fmt 3 records can be used. Up to 123 extents can be allocated 
on the volume.

I did some math: 123 extents - first 3 extents yields 120.
Each fmt 3 record has room for 13 (4+9) extents. 13*10=130.
130 + first 3 extents = 133 extents.

Q1: what is the limitation for 123 extents? Why the limit cannot be 133?

Q2: I assume that 10 is arbitrary number (because I said so), possibly 
caused to preserve room in VTOC. Am I right or there is another reason?



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Re: zFS question

2010-08-31 Thread Ken Porowski
You sure you didn't mean APPLY?  I don't have any filesystems as
distribution libs. 

-Original Message-
McKown, John

 -Original Message-
 Bill Johnson
 
 I ran an smpe accept for a new product and didn't have the intended 
 zFS file mounted. The zFS files all went to the root directory. How do

 I fix this?
 
 TIA

All that I can think of is to review the SMP/E output and use mv to
move the UNIX files to the correct filesystem. That is, mount the zFS at
some other subdirectory temporarily. mv the files to the temporary
subdirectory upon which the filesystem is mounted. unmount the
filesystem. mount it on the correct subdirectory.

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Re: zFS question

2010-08-31 Thread Bill Johnson
Yup, meant apply






From: Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com
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Subject: Re: zFS question

You sure you didn't mean APPLY?  I don't have any filesystems as
distribution libs. 

-Original Message-
McKown, John

 -Original Message-
Bill Johnson
 
 I ran an smpe accept for a new product and didn't have the intended 
 zFS file mounted. The zFS files all went to the root directory. How do

 I fix this?
 
 TIA

All that I can think of is to review the SMP/E output and use mv to
move the UNIX files to the correct filesystem. That is, mount the zFS at
some other subdirectory temporarily. mv the files to the temporary
subdirectory upon which the filesystem is mounted. unmount the
filesystem. mount it on the correct subdirectory.

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Re: zFS question

2010-08-31 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:01:04 -0700, Bill Johnson mellonb...@yahoo.com wrote:

I ran an smpe accept for a new product and didn't have the intended zFS file
mounted. The zFS files all went to the root directory. How do I fix this?

ACCEPT?  z/OS unix file systems are used as target locations for APPLY,
not ACCEPT.  So something must have been wrong during the APPLY not
ACCEPT if things are not in their proper place.

At any rate, you can copy / delete to another directory / mount point you
create.   You can use cp, pax, or mv to move them.   

If it were me, I would use copytree (in the samples dir IIRC)  since it
preserves all the sub-directory structures and then delete the old stuff.

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Re: How often do you upgrade your zOS operating system?

2010-08-31 Thread Michael Seeman
We also upgrade on a two year schedule.   Our clients have mandated 
intensive testing requirements, so testing and deployment is pretty much a 
half year effort at best.  

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Re: How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation

2010-08-31 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
The DD RLSE operand (as distinguished from the SMS Partial Release parameter) 
is a feature of the current DD statement that takes effect during close (and 
then only if the dataset was opened for something other than input).  It is an 
attribute of the current allocation and not of the dataset itself.  It is not 
preserved for future use of the dataset, even if the dataset is passed to the 
next step in the job.  It would be a waste for it to be in the DSCB.

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Subject: How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation

I need to determine this for an existing sequential dataset.  I see
where use of RLSE is indicated in the JFCB,

but not in a DSCB.   I must be missing something.

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Re: Format of STCK

2010-08-31 Thread Charles Mills
Check Principles of Operation.

Charles

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Hi

Would any know the format of the STCK inst

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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:58:59 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:

On 31 August 2010 14:39, Pinnacle wrote:
 - Original Message - From: Benik, John E

 Does anybody know of a way to prevent the following from happening when
 setting numbers off?  Short of going into every member of a PDS I have
 not found a way to prevent this.  We have tried profile lock and a
 number of other things without success.

 -CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF).
        Data has valid standard numbers.

It's only trying to help you.

This has been a long standing complaint of mine with ISPF. In most
cases I want to be able to tell it *DO NOT FIDDLE WITH MY SETTINGS - I
KNOW THE WAY I WANT IT*. And I can't. It always knows best.

I feel the same way about turning off data set delete confirmation.
I've mentioned that on these lists, with great polarization in the
reactions:

o I trust myself so little that no one else should be allowed to
  do this!  (Psychologists call this projection.)

o I used ISPF for 15? years before confirmation appeared.  For
  me, reviewing the screen before pressing ENTER was always my
  confirmation.  It's my foot and my bullet.

 If you want to suppress this for all time, create an IMACRO to do this:

 NUM ON
 UNNUM
 NUM OFF

The problem I have with this is that there are various cases where
that initial macro won't take effect, e.g. edit an empty member and
then copy the content of a member with valid numbers in. And the macro

The worst case is where 73-80 contain monotonically increasing
numeric data which are not intended to be sequence numbers.
NUM OFF has no lasting effect; it just turns on again next time
you edit the file.

has to be set up on system and userid you are using. Why on earth
can't they provide an option to truly lock some or all settings? CAPS
ON is the very worst, because it so easily destroys data.

It's only trying to help you.  But Shane might argue there
shouldn't even be a CAPS OFF setting.

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Re: How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation

2010-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It is not preserved for future use of the dataset, even if the dataset is 
passed to the next step in the job.

But, and I experimented with this in the early 1990's -- at management's 
request, you can use RLSE (with mod) and change the space allocation.

You can also add additional extents to a dataset that you started out with no 
secondaries.

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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
CAPS ON is the very worst, because it so easily destroys data.

Only if you're not aware.
Any line you don't edit retains its case.

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Re: format of STCK instruction

2010-08-31 Thread john gilmore
This thread has been as interesting for what it omitted to say as for what it 
did say.
 
I can think of no reason for using an STCK in new code.
 
At 23:58:43 on 2042 September 17 the old IBM mainframe TOD clock, i.e., the 
64-bit STCK value, overflows.
 
The new STCKE instruction does not have this defect.  Its clock values are 
13-bytes, i.e., 13 x 8 = 104 bits, in length.
 
We have, I believe, an obligation to mention the defects of approaches 
canvassed here; and we are not very good at doing it.
 
John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA

  
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Re: format of STCK instruction

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:34:03 +, john gilmore wrote:

This thread has been as interesting for what it omitted to say as for what it 
did say.
 
I can think of no reason for using an STCK in new code.
 
At 23:58:43 on 2042 September 17 the old IBM mainframe TOD clock, i.e., the 
64-bit STCK value, overflows.
 
The new STCKE instruction does not have this defect.  Its clock values are 
13-bytes, i.e., 13 x 8 = 104 bits, in length.
 
We have, I believe, an obligation to mention the defects of approaches 
canvassed here; and we are not very good at doing it.
 
Gulp.  Do I now need to register to get a PDF of the PoOp?
My IBMLink credentials appear not to work on the Resource
Link web site.

IIRC, the top byte of the ETOD is documented as reserved
or undefined.  We can guess.  We can be wrong.  So as far
as is (was) currently documented, the ETOD overflows at the
same time as the old TOD.

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Re: How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:52:59 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

It is not preserved for future use of the dataset, even if the dataset is 
passed to the next step in the job.

But, and I experimented with this in the early 1990's -- at management's 
request, you can use RLSE (with mod) and change the space allocation.

Don't you need also to specify SPACE on the DD statement?  Or you
can use OLD and overwrite with a larger data set.

You can also add additional extents to a dataset that you started out with no 
secondaries.

Once you've done this, does the DSCB indicate secondary extents,
so you can create more extents with MOD (whatever) with no
SPACE on the DD statement?  But I suppose that if the DSCB
continues to say SPACE=(unit,(prim,0)) even with secondary
extents allocated, that wouldn't work.

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Re: format of STCK instruction

2010-08-31 Thread Edward Jaffe

 On 8/31/2010 4:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

IIRC, the top byte of the ETOD is documented as reserved
or undefined.  We can guess.  We can be wrong.  So as far
as is (was) currently documented, the ETOD overflows at the
same time as the old TOD.


Description of STCKE behavior:

The  current  value  of  bits  0-103  of  the  TOD clock is stored in byte
positions 1-13 of the sixteen-byte field designated by the  second-operand
address,  provided  the  clock  is  in the set, stopped, or not-set state.
Zeros are stored in byte position 0.   The TOD  programmable  field,  bits
16-31 of the TOD programmable register, is stored in byte positions 14 and
15.

The operand just described has the following format:

.-+-+--.
| | |Programm- |
|Zeros|  TOD Clock  |able Field|
'-+-+--'
0  8112  127

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Re: format of STCK instruction

2010-08-31 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 18:03 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:34:03 +, john gilmore wrote:
 
 This thread has been as interesting for what it omitted to say as for what 
 it did say.
  
 I can think of no reason for using an STCK in new code.
  
 At 23:58:43 on 2042 September 17 the old IBM mainframe TOD clock, i.e., 
 the 64-bit STCK value, overflows.
  
 The new STCKE instruction does not have this defect.  Its clock values are 
 13-bytes, i.e., 13 x 8 = 104 bits, in length.
  
 We have, I believe, an obligation to mention the defects of approaches 
 canvassed here; and we are not very good at doing it.
  
 Gulp.  Do I now need to register to get a PDF of the PoOp?
 My IBMLink credentials appear not to work on the Resource
 Link web site.
 
 IIRC, the top byte of the ETOD is documented as reserved
 or undefined.  We can guess.  We can be wrong.  So as far
 as is (was) currently documented, the ETOD overflows at the
 same time as the old TOD.
 
 -- gil

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Re: How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation

2010-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Don't you need also to specify SPACE on the DD statement?  Or you
can use OLD and overwrite with a larger data set.

Yes you do.
Specify it with lots of commas.
It actually works.
You don't need to specify the primary, and you can specify secondaries, even 
for datasets that had none.
The key is you have to open for output.
So, use IEBGEBER, disp=mod, and SYSUT1 as DUMMY.

I did all these experiments many years ago, in a shop without any of the x37 
products.


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Re: format of STCK instruction

2010-08-31 Thread john gilmore
Others have dealt with the substance of Paul Gilmartin's post.  I will limit 
myself to noting that its content is both preposterous  and contrary to much 
IBM documentation.  Épater John Gilmore?  Certainl;y, but not without better 
preparation. 

John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA

  
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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Clark Morris
On 31 Aug 2010 11:31:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Does anybody know of a way to prevent the following from happening when
setting numbers off?  Short of going into every member of a PDS I have
not found a way to prevent this.  We have tried profile lock and a
number of other things without success.

If we can be prompted on a delete, why can't we have an installation
or user setting that prompts us every time ISPF insists on turning on
or off something line NUM, CAPS or RECOVERY?

Clark Morris
 
-CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF).   
  Data has valid standard numbers.  
 
John Benik


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Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread zMan
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
 If we can be prompted on a delete, why can't we have an installation
 or user setting that prompts us every time ISPF insists on turning on
 or off something line NUM, CAPS or RECOVERY?

Because ISPF is 1980s technology?

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Where doc for STORAGE LINKAGE=SYSTEM?

2010-08-31 Thread Charles Mills
I'm looking at page 119 of z/OS V1R10.0 MVS Assembler Services SET-WTO, the
STORAGE macro. There is a very brief mention of LINKAGE=SYSTEM. However, at
the beginning of the chapter, where it discusses register usage, there is
only a description of LINKAGE=SVC and LINKAGE=BRANCH. What am I not seeing?

FWIW, the whole beginning of the chapter seems a little garbled. There are
introductory sections called Input and Output Register Information that
appear to be correct only for LINKAGE=SVC, and under Input Register
Information for LINKAGE=SVC there is a reference to something called
BRANCH=SVC (which is contradictory and not supported by the macro).

Further, there is no documentation for LINKAGE= with STORAGE RELEASE. Is it
not supported or is the documentation wrong?

Charles Mills

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Re: Where doc for STORAGE LINKAGE=SYSTEM?

2010-08-31 Thread Charles Mills
Some problems solved by looking at the V1R12.0 PDF online. LINKAGE=SYSTEM is
documented, but BRANCH=SVC is still there, and no discussion of LINKAGE for
STORAGE RELEASE.

Charles

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I'm looking at page 119 of z/OS V1R10.0 MVS Assembler Services SET-WTO, the
STORAGE macro. There is a very brief mention of LINKAGE=SYSTEM. However, at
the beginning of the chapter, where it discusses register usage, there is
only a description of LINKAGE=SVC and LINKAGE=BRANCH. What am I not seeing?

FWIW, the whole beginning of the chapter seems a little garbled. There are
introductory sections called Input and Output Register Information that
appear to be correct only for LINKAGE=SVC, and under Input Register
Information for LINKAGE=SVC there is a reference to something called
BRANCH=SVC (which is contradictory and not supported by the macro).

Further, there is no documentation for LINKAGE= with STORAGE RELEASE. Is it
not supported or is the documentation wrong?

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Re: 123 extents and VTOC fmt 3

2010-08-31 Thread Starr, Alan
Hi Radoslaw,

I believe that the answers to your questions may be found in the Data Extent 
Block (DEB) and the murky depths of history.

Due to its age, its close connections to original S370 hardware limitations and 
downward compatibility requirements, the DEB is a messy control block. As far 
as I can tell:

1) It may never exceed 2040 bytes because the single-byte field called DEBLNGTH 
at -4 specifies the total DEB length in doublewords. Maximum value is 255, 
which represents 2040 bytes.

2) At a very minimum, a direct access EXCP / BSAM / QSAM DEB comprises
a. 23-byte prefix (appendage vector table)
b. 32-byte basic section 
c. Direct Access device sections
d. 16-byte EXCP, BSAM and QSAM dependent section 

3) Expanding upon #2, the minimum length of a DEB (with no device sections) is 
23+32+16 = 71
The maximum DEB length of 2040 minus 71 leaves 1969 bytes for device 
sections, each of which is 16 bytes
1969 / 16 = 123 and an odd byte

4) Most of the above also holds true for BPAM but the dependent section is 
smaller (i.e. 8 bytes rather than 16)   
1977 / 16 = 123 and some odd bytes

5) The overall maximum of 255 extents for extended format non-PDS datasets 
probably has its roots in the one-byte DEBNMEXT field.
I was unable to figure out how more than 123 extents are accommodated.

6) I believe that the limitation of 16 extents on datasets that are not 
extended format derives from the days when F3-DSCBs could not be chained. I 
cannot locate a data areas manual that's old enough, but I'm fairly certain 
that there was a day when a dataset was described by a F1-DSCB and (if 
required) a F3-DSCB. BSAM, QSAM and BPAM were written with this constraint. 
Extended format entailed removing this constraint and reformatting fields in 
the DEB direct access device sections.

7) If the above points are true, then the maximum of 10 F3-DSCBs is not 
arbitrary. A dataset with 123 extents would be defined by a F1-DSCB (3 
extents), 9 F3-DSCBs (each defining 13 extents) plus a final F3-DSCB defining 
the remaining 3 extents.

BTW: I have no idea why there is a limit of 59 volumes per dataset.

Regards,
Alan





 

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I just RTFMed some documentation and few questions arrived to my mind.

VTOC fmt 3 record contains information about extents 4-16-th for older type 
datasets (like PDS, PS non EF, DA). It also contains link to another fmt 3 
record - that's for newer type datasets.
Up to 10 fmt 3 records can be used. Up to 123 extents can be allocated on the 
volume.
I did some math: 123 extents - first 3 extents yields 120.
Each fmt 3 record has room for 13 (4+9) extents. 13*10=130.
130 + first 3 extents = 133 extents.

Q1: what is the limitation for 123 extents? Why the limit cannot be 133?

Q2: I assume that 10 is arbitrary number (because I said so), possibly caused 
to preserve room in VTOC. Am I right or there is another reason?


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Re: format of STCK instruction

2010-08-31 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 08/31/2010 07:36 PM, john gilmore wrote:
 Others have dealt with the substance of Paul Gilmartin's post.
 I will limit myself to noting that its content is both preposterous 
and contrary to much IBM documentation.  Épater John Gilmore?  
Certainl;y, but not without better preparation.
 
 John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA
 

Assuming you are referring to the statement that the ETOD as currently
defined will still overflow at the same time as the old TOD clock, this
statement is technically correct although it is also clearly stated by
IBM that the obvious extension into the high-order zero byte is planned
for the future.  Here is what the PofOp says:

At some time in the future, STORE CLOCK EXTENDED on new models will
store a leftmost extension of the TOD clock in byte position 0 of its
storage operand

So, if at the time of the TOD rollover you are still running old
hardware (where what constitutes new is still undefined), STCKE WILL
overflow at the same time as STCK and the old TOD.

What also seems to be unfortunately left ambiguous at this point is
whether the z/OS date conversion facilities that allow you to convert to
and from the ETOD format include support for ETOD values with a non-zero
high-order byte.  Those conversion facilities have some very nice
features and could be the basis for some generalized date calculation
routines, where the ETOD format is only used as an intermediate form in
date calculation for historic and future dates.  But the way ETOD is
currently formally defined, one would have to assume that these
conversion routines might not tolerate a non zero high order byte and
would fail with conversion of dates beyond the TOD overflow point.

The fact the current hardware may only support setting and storing ETOD
values with a high order zero byte should not preclude software support
for larger values when these values are used in other contexts than
setting and storing the hardware clock.

It would be more useful for coding and generalized use of the conversion
facilities if the formal definition of the ETOD format explicitly showed
the high-order byte as an active part of the time value, with a footnote
stating that current hardware models are only capable of being set to
times and storing times where the high-order byte is zero.  Perhaps this
is what was intended by IBM, but it is not what is stated.  Since this
is the only place the ETOD format is formally defined, until the
definition is changed one is forced to assume ETOD software date
conversion facilities don't support ETOD dates beyond the TOD overflow.

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Re: 3270 Emulator Software

2010-08-31 Thread Ron Hawkins
What about Skippy, the bush kangaroo...

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 Yeah, and Arthur Godfrey, the original Twilight Zone, Captain Kangaroo, and
 Fury.
 
 
 
 I have a local 3270 in my cube, along with a PC with emulation and dual
 monitors.  I used to have a real 3279 s3g.  It was wonderful, but I couldn't
 remote to it like I can the PC.  I like not having to drive in when I 'get the
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 You forgot Rin, Tin, Tin and Hoppalong Cassidy  :-) Not to mention
 Roy Rogers, with Dale, Trigger, Buttermilk and a Jeep named Nelly
 Belle.  :-)
 
 Rick
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 Ed Finnell wrote:
 
 
 In a message dated 8/29/2010 9:02:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Re: 123 extents and VTOC fmt 3

2010-08-31 Thread William H. Blair
Alan Starr wondered:

 I have no idea why there is a limit of 59 volumes per dataset.

That's 59 units (that is, UCBs or devices), which, for DASD data
sets translates to 59 volumes. There is no such limitation for
TAPE data sets, of course, since a tape drive can be reused for
subsequent volumes of a multi-volume tape data set; they will be
mounted in the correct/specified/cataloged sequence, naturally.

The 59 device limit has to do with the size of a single entry in
the TIOT. Each device entry is 4 bytes. 4*59=236, so one would
suspect that must be a 1-byte TIOT entry length field somewhere. 
   
Voila! 
   
| 24   (18)1TIOELNGH - LENGTH, IN BYTES,
|  OF THIS ENTRY
|  (INCLUDING ALL DEVICE
|  ENTRIES)

Since the length is 1-origin, and TIOT entries much be word-aligned,
the maximum size DD entry is 256-4=252 bytes. Each DD entry, before
the device entry(ies) contains 16 bytes. Hence, 252-16=236. 236/4=59.

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Re: How to determine use of RLSE in dataset allocation

2010-08-31 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 8/31/2010 7:15 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Once you've done this, does the DSCB indicate secondary extents,
so you can create more extents with MOD (whatever) with no
SPACE on the DD statement?  But I suppose that if the DSCB
continues to say SPACE=(unit,(prim,0)) even with secondary
extents allocated, that wouldn't work.


The format 1 DSCB has no provision for saving primary allocation 
amounts, only the type. The justification presumably was that 
once you have the primary space, the information is useless, and 
only the secondary matters.



Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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