Re: Rexx command to execute MVS console commands

2010-10-19 Thread Victor Zhang
Thanks for your reply, now the problem solves by unquoting command from
console command.
But I have a new problem, when I use following jcl to execute the rexx:
//MVSJCL JOB   (ACCNT#), 
// CLASS=T,  
// MSGCLASS=X,   
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1),   
// NOTIFY=SYSUID,   
// TIME=1440 
//PROCVTV  EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M   
//SYSEXEC  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=userid.REXX.EXEC 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//INFILE   DD *  
D A,L
//SYSTSPRT  DD SYSOUT=*  
//SYSTSIN   DD * 
%REXXMVS 
following error messages appeared:
IKJ55303I THE CONSOLE COMMAND HAS TERMINATED.+  
IKJ55303I AN ERROR OCCURRED DURING CONSOLE INITIALIZATION.  THE MCSOPER
RETURN CODE WAS X'0004' AND THE REASON CODE WAS X''.

Please provide me a sample jcl to run rexx console program.

Thanks
Victor

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Re: zFS files at disaster recovery site

2010-10-19 Thread R.S.

Crabtree, Anne D pisze:

So, would a logical thing to do (no pun intended) be to create a daily or 
weekly logical backup of all zfs aggregates?  Then, if at dr, there are 
problems with the aggregates being restored from a physical backup, I would 
have the logical backup as plan B?


IMHO it's good idea to clearly distinguish ReadOnly filesystems and 
ReadWrite ones. The first category should not be changed except applying 
service - that simplifies DR  backup procedures. For the second 
category (RDWR) you can make further distinction: those necessary for 
system start up (i.e. /tmp, /var) and the rest, which can be mounted later.


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performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Leopold Strauss

 Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual 
network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.


With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with 
TCPIP-NMI.


I would appreciate any hints.

Thanks in advance

Leo Strauss

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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Chris Mason
Leo

If I Google osa-express netview, the 1st and 4th hits offer what looks kike 
it could be much the same presentation from my old friend Ernie Gilman - still 
going strong! - which appears to address your concerns.

Please let us know otherwise.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:05 +0200, Leopold Strauss leopold.stra...@isis-
PAPYRUS.COM wrote:

  Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
TCPIP-NMI.

I would appreciate any hints.

Thanks in advance

Leo Strauss

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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Leopold Strauss

 Many thanks,Chris,

But my company's product runs on many zOS-systems, and therefore I can 
not relay f.e. on IBM-Tivoli or any other payable hostproduct.


And therefore I am investigating to get out some data without additional 
software, only with using existing APIs or callable services and so on.



br

Leo Strauss

On 19.10.2010 10:21, Chris Mason wrote:

Leo

If I Google osa-express netview, the 1st and 4th hits offer what looks kike
it could be much the same presentation from my old friend Ernie Gilman - still
going strong! - which appears to address your concerns.

Please let us know otherwise.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:05 +0200, Leopold Straussleopold.stra...@isis-
PAPYRUS.COM  wrote:


  Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
TCPIP-NMI.

I would appreciate any hints.

Thanks in advance

Leo Strauss

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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Rob Scott
You need the EZBNMIFR API 

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Leopold Strauss
Sent: 19 October 2010 09:37
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on 
zOS)

  Many thanks,Chris,

But my company's product runs on many zOS-systems, and therefore I can 
not relay f.e. on IBM-Tivoli or any other payable hostproduct.

And therefore I am investigating to get out some data without additional 
software, only with using existing APIs or callable services and so on.


br

Leo Strauss

On 19.10.2010 10:21, Chris Mason wrote:
 Leo

 If I Google osa-express netview, the 1st and 4th hits offer what looks 
 kike
 it could be much the same presentation from my old friend Ernie Gilman - still
 going strong! - which appears to address your concerns.

 Please let us know otherwise.

 Chris Mason

 On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:05 +0200, Leopold Straussleopold.stra...@isis-
 PAPYRUS.COM  wrote:

   Hi, all,

 We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
 network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

 With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
 TCPIP-NMI.

 I would appreciate any hints.

 Thanks in advance

 Leo Strauss
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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Leopold Strauss

 Hi, Rob,

Thanks to you.

This API ( EZBNMIFR ) I already found some days ago.

Obviously it is the only thing to get some performance-values from 
active TCP/IP-stacks.


But I was not quite sure, therefore I issued the above question.

thanks again and br

Leo Strauss

On 19.10.2010 12:26, Rob Scott wrote:

You need the EZBNMIFR API

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Leopold Strauss
Sent: 19 October 2010 09:37
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on 
zOS)

   Many thanks,Chris,

But my company's product runs on many zOS-systems, and therefore I can
not relay f.e. on IBM-Tivoli or any other payable hostproduct.

And therefore I am investigating to get out some data without additional
software, only with using existing APIs or callable services and so on.


br

Leo Strauss

On 19.10.2010 10:21, Chris Mason wrote:

Leo

If I Google osa-express netview, the 1st and 4th hits offer what looks kike
it could be much the same presentation from my old friend Ernie Gilman - still
going strong! - which appears to address your concerns.

Please let us know otherwise.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:05 +0200, Leopold Straussleopold.stra...@isis-
PAPYRUS.COM   wrote:


   Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
TCPIP-NMI.

I would appreciate any hints.

Thanks in advance

Leo Strauss

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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Chris Mason
Leo

 But my company's product runs on many zOS-systems, ...

I'm not at all sure I understand what you are saying here. I assumed you 
wanted performance information for the system or systems which you ran.

What has my company's product got to do with it?

Just assuming for the moment that you really do want advice on how to 
manage multiple systems, without having examined the Ernie's presentation in 
detail but having read a bit about OSA management in the past, you would be 
operating a type of client-server called actually manager-agent where you 
work with one client/manager and can access/manage 
many servers/agents.

The agent is an SNMP agent and that comes with z/OS Communications 
Server at no extra cost, I believe. The agent is actually a subagent of the 
SNMP agent, it is called The OSA-Express direct SNMP subagent and is 
documented in the Open Systems Adapter-Express Customer's Guide and 
Reference manual:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?
uid=isg2bc4ae2e43bfcf12c85256cee000d1130

Since the agent support is at no extra cost as I believe, the number of 
systems is irrelevant since each system will necessarily be running z/OS 
Communications Server.

SNMP being a very open management technique, you can implement 
the manager any way you like. You can use a product which costs money 
such as NetView or you can use a product which you yourself create which 
costs your time and effort. I've done some of the latter sort of SNMP work - 
although I was using a NetView base - and it was fun!

 And therefore I am investigating to get out some data without additional 
software, only with using existing APIs or callable services and so on.

What I have just described is exactly that - using SNMP and sockets 
programming.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:37:21 +0200, Leopold Strauss leopold.stra...@isis-
PAPYRUS.COM wrote:

  Many thanks,Chris,

But my company's product runs on many zOS-systems, and therefore I can
not relay f.e. on IBM-Tivoli or any other payable hostproduct.

And therefore I am investigating to get out some data without additional
software, only with using existing APIs or callable services and so on.


br

Leo Strauss

On 19.10.2010 10:21, Chris Mason wrote:
 Leo

 If I Google osa-express netview, the 1st and 4th hits offer what looks 
kike
 it could be much the same presentation from my old friend Ernie Gilman - 
still
 going strong! - which appears to address your concerns.

 Please let us know otherwise.

 Chris Mason

 On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:05 +0200, Leopold 
Straussleopold.stra...@isis-
 PAPYRUS.COM  wrote:

   Hi, all,

 We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
 network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

 With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
 TCPIP-NMI.

 I would appreciate any hints.

 Thanks in advance

 Leo Strauss

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Re: Rexx command to execute MVS console commands

2010-10-19 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
The PARM (command) goes on the same line as the rexx exec.

//MVSJCL JOB   (ACCNT#), 
// CLASS=T,  
// MSGCLASS=X,   
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1),   
// NOTIFY=SYSUID,   
// TIME=1440 
//PROCVTV  EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M   
//SYSEXEC  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=userid.REXX.EXEC 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSTSPRT  DD SYSOUT=*  
//SYSTSIN   DD * 
%REXXMVSD A,L   
  

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Victor Zhang
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Rexx command to execute MVS console commands

Thanks for your reply, now the problem solves by unquoting command from console 
command.
But I have a new problem, when I use following jcl to execute the rexx:
//MVSJCL JOB   (ACCNT#), 
// CLASS=T,  
// MSGCLASS=X,   
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1),   
// NOTIFY=SYSUID,   
// TIME=1440 
//PROCVTV  EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M   
//SYSEXEC  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=userid.REXX.EXEC 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//INFILE   DD *  
D A,L
//SYSTSPRT  DD SYSOUT=*  
//SYSTSIN   DD * 
%REXXMVS 
following error messages appeared:
IKJ55303I THE CONSOLE COMMAND HAS TERMINATED.+ IKJ55303I AN ERROR OCCURRED 
DURING CONSOLE INITIALIZATION.  THE MCSOPER RETURN CODE WAS X'0004' AND THE 
REASON CODE WAS X''.

Please provide me a sample jcl to run rexx console program.

Thanks
Victor

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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Leopold Strauss

 Hi, Chris,

Many thanks for your explanation.

I just looked into the manual Open Systems Adapter-Express Customer's 
Guide and Reference, and it is definitly not what we need or want.


regards

Leo Strauss


On 19.10.2010 12:42, Chris Mason wrote:

Leo


But my company's product runs on many zOS-systems, ...

I'm not at all sure I understand what you are saying here. I assumed you
wanted performance information for the system or systems which you ran.

What has my company's product got to do with it?

Just assuming for the moment that you really do want advice on how to
manage multiple systems, without having examined the Ernie's presentation in
detail but having read a bit about OSA management in the past, you would be
operating a type of client-server called actually manager-agent where you
work with one client/manager and can access/manage
many servers/agents.

The agent is an SNMP agent and that comes with z/OS Communications
Server at no extra cost, I believe. The agent is actually a subagent of the
SNMP agent, it is called The OSA-Express direct SNMP subagent and is
documented in the Open Systems Adapter-Express Customer's Guide and
Reference manual:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?
uid=isg2bc4ae2e43bfcf12c85256cee000d1130

Since the agent support is at no extra cost as I believe, the number of
systems is irrelevant since each system will necessarily be running z/OS
Communications Server.

SNMP being a very open management technique, you can implement
the manager any way you like. You can use a product which costs money
such as NetView or you can use a product which you yourself create which
costs your time and effort. I've done some of the latter sort of SNMP work -
although I was using a NetView base - and it was fun!


And therefore I am investigating to get out some data without additional

software, only with using existing APIs or callable services and so on.

What I have just described is exactly that - using SNMP and sockets
programming.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:37:21 +0200, Leopold Straussleopold.stra...@isis-
PAPYRUS.COM  wrote:


  Many thanks,Chris,

But my company's product runs on many zOS-systems, and therefore I can
not relay f.e. on IBM-Tivoli or any other payable hostproduct.

And therefore I am investigating to get out some data without additional
software, only with using existing APIs or callable services and so on.


br

Leo Strauss

On 19.10.2010 10:21, Chris Mason wrote:

Leo

If I Google osa-express netview, the 1st and 4th hits offer what looks

kike

it could be much the same presentation from my old friend Ernie Gilman -

still

going strong! - which appears to address your concerns.

Please let us know otherwise.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:05 +0200, Leopold

Straussleopold.stra...@isis-

PAPYRUS.COM   wrote:


   Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
TCPIP-NMI.

I would appreciate any hints.

Thanks in advance

Leo Strauss

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Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,

I am trying to run a REXX exec that accesses a specific job.
When I run the exec interactively using the EX command in SDSF it works fine.
When I run it in batch it fails.
The beginning of the exec is:
/* REXX */
RC=ISFCALLS('ON')
DD = SUBSTR(DATE(S),1,4).DATE(D)
ISFPREFIX = CTMTDAY
ISFFILTER = DATER DD
ADDRESS SDSF ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE)

When I run it in batch using the job:
//TSOBATCH  EXEC  PGM=IRXJCL,PARM='SDSFREXX'
//SYSTSPRT  DDSYSOUT=X
//SYSEXEC   DDDSN=V110GAD.CLIST,DISP=SHR

I get:
ISFMSG IS: COLUMN NOT FOUND
ISFMSG2.1 IS: ISF754I Command 'PREFIX CTMTDAY' generated from associated 
variable ISFPREFIX.
ISFMSG2.2 IS: ISF147I REXX variable ISFCOLS fetched, return code 0001 value 
‘’.
ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001 value is 
'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS STATUS'.
ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292' 
associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.

I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
The difference between the batch and online results is that they display 
different group names and indexes.

Could this be the problem?
How do I fix it?

Gadi


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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Petersen, Jim
I agree that if things don't change, they never get better.   However, I still 
stand by the fact that it should be either/or, all/none.  There needs to be the 
ability to maintain status quo for those who desire it.

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:40:24 -0500, Petersen, Jim wrote:

I also agree with Mr. Rosenberg.   There has to be a way for us old timers to 
say we don't care what you want, we want it to be the way it has always been.

If things don't change, they never get better.

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Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
 I am trying to run a REXX exec that accesses a specific job.
 When I run the exec interactively using the EX command in SDSF it works
 fine.
 When I run it in batch it fails.
 The beginning of the exec is:
 /* REXX */
 RC=ISFCALLS('ON')
 DD = SUBSTR(DATE(S),1,4).DATE(D)
 ISFPREFIX = CTMTDAY
 ISFFILTER = DATER DD
 ADDRESS SDSF ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE)
 
 When I run it in batch using the job:
 //TSOBATCH  EXEC  PGM=IRXJCL,PARM='SDSFREXX'
 //SYSTSPRT  DDSYSOUT=X
 //SYSEXEC   DDDSN=V110GAD.CLIST,DISP=SHR
 
 I get:
 ISFMSG IS: COLUMN NOT FOUND
 ISFMSG2.1 IS: ISF754I Command 'PREFIX CTMTDAY' generated from
 associated variable ISFPREFIX.
 ISFMSG2.2 IS: ISF147I REXX variable ISFCOLS fetched, return code
 0001 value ''.
 ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001
 value is 'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS
 STATUS'.
 ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292'
 associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.
 
 I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
 The difference between the batch and online results is that they
 display different group names and indexes.
 
 Could this be the problem?
 How do I fix it?
 
 Gadi


I might send this type of question to the TSO REXX newsgroup.

I have tried both IRXJCL an IKJEFT01 in batch for my SDSF rexx process.
Both work.

Try running the batch process withTRACE ?r   in the REXX code. 

What level of z/OS are you running under?


Lizette

 
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Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread Matan Cohen
hi Gadi,
 *ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001
value is 'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS
STATUS'.
ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292'
associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.*
*
*
*  i think the problem is you are trying to filter by a cols which don't
exist .*
*try adding the alternate word after the VERBOSE : *ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE
alternate)

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

  I am trying to run a REXX exec that accesses a specific job.
  When I run the exec interactively using the EX command in SDSF it works
  fine.
  When I run it in batch it fails.
  The beginning of the exec is:
  /* REXX */
  RC=ISFCALLS('ON')
  DD = SUBSTR(DATE(S),1,4).DATE(D)
  ISFPREFIX = CTMTDAY
  ISFFILTER = DATER DD
  ADDRESS SDSF ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE)
 
  When I run it in batch using the job:
  //TSOBATCH  EXEC  PGM=IRXJCL,PARM='SDSFREXX'
  //SYSTSPRT  DDSYSOUT=X
  //SYSEXEC   DDDSN=V110GAD.CLIST,DISP=SHR
 
  I get:
  ISFMSG IS: COLUMN NOT FOUND
  ISFMSG2.1 IS: ISF754I Command 'PREFIX CTMTDAY' generated from
  associated variable ISFPREFIX.
  ISFMSG2.2 IS: ISF147I REXX variable ISFCOLS fetched, return code
  0001 value ''.
  ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001
  value is 'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS
  STATUS'.
  ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292'
  associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.
 
  I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
  The difference between the batch and online results is that they
  display different group names and indexes.
 
  Could this be the problem?
  How do I fix it?
 
  Gadi


 I might send this type of question to the TSO REXX newsgroup.

 I have tried both IRXJCL an IKJEFT01 in batch for my SDSF rexx process.
 Both work.

 Try running the batch process withTRACE ?r   in the REXX code.

 What level of z/OS are you running under?


 Lizette

 
  Hi,
 

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Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,

I am running under z/OS 1.9

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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:38 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

 I am trying to run a REXX exec that accesses a specific job.
 When I run the exec interactively using the EX command in SDSF it works
 fine.
 When I run it in batch it fails.
 The beginning of the exec is:
 /* REXX */
 RC=ISFCALLS('ON')
 DD = SUBSTR(DATE(S),1,4).DATE(D)
 ISFPREFIX = CTMTDAY
 ISFFILTER = DATER DD
 ADDRESS SDSF ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE)

 When I run it in batch using the job:
 //TSOBATCH  EXEC  PGM=IRXJCL,PARM='SDSFREXX'
 //SYSTSPRT  DDSYSOUT=X
 //SYSEXEC   DDDSN=V110GAD.CLIST,DISP=SHR

 I get:
 ISFMSG IS: COLUMN NOT FOUND
 ISFMSG2.1 IS: ISF754I Command 'PREFIX CTMTDAY' generated from
 associated variable ISFPREFIX.
 ISFMSG2.2 IS: ISF147I REXX variable ISFCOLS fetched, return code
 0001 value ''.
 ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001
 value is 'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS
 STATUS'.
 ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292'
 associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.

 I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
 The difference between the batch and online results is that they
 display different group names and indexes.

 Could this be the problem?
 How do I fix it?

 Gadi


I might send this type of question to the TSO REXX newsgroup.

I have tried both IRXJCL an IKJEFT01 in batch for my SDSF rexx process.
Both work.

Try running the batch process withTRACE ?r   in the REXX code.

What level of z/OS are you running under?


Lizette


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החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) 
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Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread גדי בן אבי
Thanks Matan,
That got me closer, but I got the same message further in the program.

The next SDSF command is:
ADDRESS SDSF ISFACT ST TOKEN('TOKEN.IX') PARM(NP ?) ,
   ( PREFIX JDS_

Gadi

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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:52 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

hi Gadi,
 *ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001
value is 'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS
STATUS'.
ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292'
associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.*
*
*
*  i think the problem is you are trying to filter by a cols which don't
exist .*
*try adding the alternate word after the VERBOSE : *ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE
alternate)

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

  I am trying to run a REXX exec that accesses a specific job.
  When I run the exec interactively using the EX command in SDSF it works
  fine.
  When I run it in batch it fails.
  The beginning of the exec is:
  /* REXX */
  RC=ISFCALLS('ON')
  DD = SUBSTR(DATE(S),1,4).DATE(D)
  ISFPREFIX = CTMTDAY
  ISFFILTER = DATER DD
  ADDRESS SDSF ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE)
 
  When I run it in batch using the job:
  //TSOBATCH  EXEC  PGM=IRXJCL,PARM='SDSFREXX'
  //SYSTSPRT  DDSYSOUT=X
  //SYSEXEC   DDDSN=V110GAD.CLIST,DISP=SHR
 
  I get:
  ISFMSG IS: COLUMN NOT FOUND
  ISFMSG2.1 IS: ISF754I Command 'PREFIX CTMTDAY' generated from
  associated variable ISFPREFIX.
  ISFMSG2.2 IS: ISF147I REXX variable ISFCOLS fetched, return code
  0001 value ''.
  ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001
  value is 'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS
  STATUS'.
  ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292'
  associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.
 
  I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
  The difference between the batch and online results is that they
  display different group names and indexes.
 
  Could this be the problem?
  How do I fix it?
 
  Gadi


 I might send this type of question to the TSO REXX newsgroup.

 I have tried both IRXJCL an IKJEFT01 in batch for my SDSF rexx process.
 Both work.

 Try running the batch process withTRACE ?r   in the REXX code.

 What level of z/OS are you running under?


 Lizette

 
  Hi,
 

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החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו 
החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) 
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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Lesseg, Jon
Hi Leo,

Check out http://www.servicepilot.com/ 
They have a product NBA for z/OS that might be what you are looking for.
Download the free trial and see if it meets your need.  

Regards,
Jon

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Subject: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

  Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual 
network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with 
TCPIP-NMI.

I would appreciate any hints.

Thanks in advance

Leo Strauss

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Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread Matan Cohen
Gadi ,
can you send the messages ? if so it strange cause ISFFILTER don't use in
the  ISFACT  is you are succeed in passing the first step
you might need to reset this ISFFILTER to null , I never worked with the
FILTER in SDSF REXX so i can't say for sure if this will help.

2010/10/19 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com

 Thanks Matan,
 That got me closer, but I got the same message further in the program.

 The next SDSF command is:
 ADDRESS SDSF ISFACT ST TOKEN('TOKEN.IX') PARM(NP ?) ,
   ( PREFIX JDS_

 Gadi

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 Behalf Of Matan Cohen
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:52 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

 hi Gadi,
  *ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001
 value is 'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS
 STATUS'.
 ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292'
 associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.*
 *
 *
 *  i think the problem is you are trying to filter by a cols which don't
 exist .*
 *try adding the alternate word after the VERBOSE : *ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE
 alternate)

 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
 wrote:

   I am trying to run a REXX exec that accesses a specific job.
   When I run the exec interactively using the EX command in SDSF it works
   fine.
   When I run it in batch it fails.
   The beginning of the exec is:
   /* REXX */
   RC=ISFCALLS('ON')
   DD = SUBSTR(DATE(S),1,4).DATE(D)
   ISFPREFIX = CTMTDAY
   ISFFILTER = DATER DD
   ADDRESS SDSF ISFEXEC ST (VERBOSE)
  
   When I run it in batch using the job:
   //TSOBATCH  EXEC  PGM=IRXJCL,PARM='SDSFREXX'
   //SYSTSPRT  DDSYSOUT=X
   //SYSEXEC   DDDSN=V110GAD.CLIST,DISP=SHR
  
   I get:
   ISFMSG IS: COLUMN NOT FOUND
   ISFMSG2.1 IS: ISF754I Command 'PREFIX CTMTDAY' generated from
   associated variable ISFPREFIX.
   ISFMSG2.2 IS: ISF147I REXX variable ISFCOLS fetched, return code
   0001 value ''.
   ISFMSG2.3 IS: ISF146I REXX variable ISFCOLS set, return code 0001
   value is 'JNAME TOKEN JTYPE JNUM QUEUE JCLASS POS PRTDEST SYSAFF ACTSYS
   STATUS'.
   ISFMSG2.4 IS: ISF741E Error processing command 'FILTER DATER 2010.292'
   associated with variable ISFFILTER, reason: COLUMN NOT FOUND.
  
   I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
   The difference between the batch and online results is that they
   display different group names and indexes.
  
   Could this be the problem?
   How do I fix it?
  
   Gadi
 
 
  I might send this type of question to the TSO REXX newsgroup.
 
  I have tried both IRXJCL an IKJEFT01 in batch for my SDSF rexx process.
  Both work.
 
  Try running the batch process withTRACE ?r   in the REXX code.
 
  What level of z/OS are you running under?
 
 
  Lizette
 
  
   Hi,
  
 
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 מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את
 לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך
 סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה
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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Leopold Strauss

 Hi Jon,

Many thanks.

I will take a look on it.

regards

Leo

On 19.10.2010 15:30, Lesseg, Jon wrote:

Hi Leo,

Check out http://www.servicepilot.com/
They have a product NBA for z/OS that might be what you are looking for.
Download the free trial and see if it meets your need.

Regards,
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Subject: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

   Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
TCPIP-NMI.

I would appreciate any hints.

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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:49:27 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote:

I am heavily using MPF to reduce message traffic to the console, *and* we
spit out a 'TRT002' message at every step end (which is rc11 and hence
doesn't go to the consoles). Which is an absolute nuisance for the systems
that use the newfangled OMVS stuff, because for pages and pages and pages
and pages all I see are TRT messages in the hardcopy log. 

snip

HI Barbara,

1) It is recommended to NOT use IEFUSI for OMVS (I removed it many
years ago).   

2) When I did, I checked for OMVS and skipped writing the messages:

 CLC   0(4,R5),=C'OMVS'  
 BE   SKIPWTO

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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Givens, Dennis W.
If you are looking for a product that will provide this information.I 
suggest looking at IMPLEX from William Data Systems.
Free download for trial. Easy install. Very intuitive product. Vendor is very 
receptive to modifications of product.

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  Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
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With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
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I would appreciate any hints.

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DB2 and WLM Service Class

2010-10-19 Thread vatsal raicha
Hi,

I have one Db2 utility job is running in a service class (vel 50, imp 4)
anthr db2 utility job in a service class(vel 30,imp 4). Does Db2 give them
same service, if other factors remain constant?
Both the utility jobs are doing the same thing.

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Eject cartridge CE XXX

2010-10-19 Thread HELIO

 All list,

We have a 3494 tape library. I need to eject the cartridge (ce xxx) 
which used by the technical service.

Does anyone know how I can eject cartridge?

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Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:46:30 +0200, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503; 
#1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote:

I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
The difference between the batch and online results is that they display
different group names and indexes.

Could this be the problem?
How do I fix it?


From a previous post of mine:

The biggest problem I have found with batch is that many shops have 
SDSF security set up (from the default/sample parms) based on TSO 
authorities (JCL, OPER, ACCT) and TSOAUTH is automatically set to JCL for 
a batch SDSF job (regardless of what authorities the USERID actually has).   
This is the documented behavior. 

The way I have fixed (for LPARs that still do SDSF security this
way) it is by creating a group and using IUID.

Mark
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Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread גדי בן אבי
The BATCH group in my ISFPRM00 does not have TSOAUTH specified.

Gadi

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On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:46:30 +0200, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503; 
#1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote:

I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
The difference between the batch and online results is that they display
different group names and indexes.

Could this be the problem?
How do I fix it?


From a previous post of mine:

The biggest problem I have found with batch is that many shops have
SDSF security set up (from the default/sample parms) based on TSO
authorities (JCL, OPER, ACCT) and TSOAUTH is automatically set to JCL for
a batch SDSF job (regardless of what authorities the USERID actually has).
This is the documented behavior. 

The way I have fixed (for LPARs that still do SDSF security this
way) it is by creating a group and using IUID.

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לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם 
החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו 
החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) 
המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, 
ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי.

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Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Zelden
The question is:  When you are running in batch, are you falling into the
group you expect / want to be in.  If the answer is Yes then ignore
what I wrote and that is not the problem.

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On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:29:42 +0200, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503; 
#1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote:

The BATCH group in my ISFPRM00 does not have TSOAUTH specified.

Gadi

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Subject: Re: Problem running SDSF REXX in Batch

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:46:30 +0200, #1490;#1491;#1497;
amp;#1489;#1503; #1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote:

I ran the example REXX exec that runs the WHO command.
The difference between the batch and online results is that they display
different group names and indexes.

Could this be the problem?
How do I fix it?


From a previous post of mine:

The biggest problem I have found with batch is that many shops have
SDSF security set up (from the default/sample parms) based on TSO
authorities (JCL, OPER, ACCT) and TSOAUTH is automatically set to JCL for
a batch SDSF job (regardless of what authorities the USERID actually has).
This is the documented behavior. 

The way I have fixed (for LPARs that still do SDSF security this
way) it is by creating a group and using IUID.

Mark
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Re: Someone has training manuals or notes that can help me

2010-10-19 Thread Cheryl Walker
Hilario,

Despite the off-topic comments, you have a legitimate request.  And I suspect 
that over the next couple of years, there will be similar requests on this 
forum from other new sysprogs.  Before you can function as a system programmer, 
you will need to become familiar with the mainframe.  I have a link on my 
website for a couple of z/OS 101 Primers - 
http://www.watsonwalker.com/articles.html, which is one place you can start.  
For you, one of the best will be the Redbook called the P/390: OS/390 New 
User's Cookbook - SG24-4757 - 
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg244757.html?Open.  This was developed 
for a developer's machine in 1999, but it is quite handy for a new sysprog.  By 
using the links provided in responses to your question and the links in my 
primer, you should have a good start on learning the mainframe.

With that in hand, however, the task of migrating from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.11 is 
almost an impossible task without some experienced help.  No matter what 
country you're in, you can probably locate someone who can help you remotely, 
and I think you'll need that.  Depending on the size of your current 
installation, you might well have a better chance of success with installing 
z/OS 1.11 in a separate LPAR and slowly move the libraries and user to the new 
machine.  If you go this route, try to use IBM's defaults whenever possible, 
rather than create new and difficult to manage naming standards.

My best advice is to get your vendor, IBM or 3rd party, to get you started.

Best regards,
Cheryl

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www.watsonwalker.com
941-266-6609
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On Oct 4, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Hilario G. wrote:

Hi colleagues,

I have not work in mainframe environment and now I have to perform the 
functions of System Programmer.

I have no time to attend training and in my country there are no planned 
training courses for not having enough workers to justify the course.

Some of you you can tell me if there are training manuals or the can makes me 
get my email on the following topics:
- Installing Z / OS
- SMPE
- SMS
- RACF
- USS
- HFS
- CICS
- IMS / DB
- REXX and CLIST
- JES2
- VSAM
- DB2

I have manuals that IBM would need is if someone has information that can 
help me (types of training books or notes).

Thank you very much.

Hilario 

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Re: Shutdown and dependencies

2010-10-19 Thread Cheryl Walker
Barbara and others,

Although this email is a little late, a good reference for dependencies at 
start up and shut down can be found in the MTTR Redbook - 
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247816.html?Open.  Although the TCP/IP 
issue isn't addressed, there are other dependencies that might be of interest 
to people following this thread.

Best regards,
Cheryl

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On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote:

 I disagree on some points in this part of the discussion:
This is funny. I don't think you disagreed on anything, just clarified things a 
bit :-) (I was too much in a hurry yesterday.)

 A Brave man !! ... :-) ... 
uh oh. Seems I need to stop saying anything :-) Not that that is going to stop 
me :-(.

 That is not correct.  CANCEL does a POST of the CANCEL ECB, on which the
 initiator task is WAITing.  The initiator task then does a CALLRTM
 TYPE=ABTERM of the jobstep task. 
Which in turn tries to get its daughter tasks to terminate by issuing the 
appropriate detach abends to them. At least that's what I remember they 
should do.

And the hang occurs when one of them daughters gets control in their 
recovery routine and does something stupid like rely on something that just 
isn't there (anymore - like an ECB that will never be posted anymore because 
the application supposed to post it has forgotten to do it when *it* 
terminated) causing our address space to hang indefinitely. In some cases a 
second cancel helps, but for the past years I haven't seen that to work 
anymore. And in the case of an IMS MPR/BMP, this point usually means restart 
of all of IMS (I get involved when IMS doesn't know about the MPR/BMP 
anymore, but the address space is caught in the cancel/force arm/force loop. 
At that point I get to try the callrtm program. And the culprit in thise cases 
has always been Xpediter, and they have been unable to determine what they 
do wrong to cause an IMS restart at the best online time - every time.)

If that situation occured, automation setup and operational procedure were 
both correct. In fact, we don't want our operators to use cancel unless we tell 
them to, either. Much less force. 

Best regards, Barbara

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z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-19 Thread Hal Merritt
 Hi all - we have stumbled across an issue where an application runs out of low 
private (ABEND S878-10) when run under z/os 1.11. It is very tight, but runs ok 
under z/os 1.9.

We compared the private under both z/os versions and, if anything, the 1.11 
seems a little larger.

The application folks are working the issue, so I'm just looking for any 
differences in z/os that may help the application folks better craft their 
solutions.

The nature of the application makes it very difficult to reproduce the problem 
in a test mode.

Thanks!!
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Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-19 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Is it running an application program or a z/OS utility that might have 
increased in size?


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Subject: z/os 1.11 and low private

 Hi all - we have stumbled across an issue where an application runs out of low 
private (ABEND S878-10) when run under z/os 1.11. It is very tight, but runs ok 
under z/os 1.9.

We compared the private under both z/os versions and, if anything, the 1.11 
seems a little larger.

The application folks are working the issue, so I'm just looking for any 
differences in z/os that may help the application folks better craft their 
solutions.

The nature of the application makes it very difficult to reproduce the problem 
in a test mode.

Thanks!!
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IPCS dump where command what subpool

2010-10-19 Thread Micheal Butz

Hi,
I am getting unable to identify the area
At .  Where 
Is an address from the Where command.  even if the area is unallocated  
sholudn't IPCS know what subpool it belongs to


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Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-19 Thread Hal Merritt
There are no known differences in the application, and we pay close attention 
to that. 

The application may, however, be invoking some z/os service(s) that have grown. 
The application is starting up (opening files, setting up telecom, etc) when 
the shortage occurs.  

 

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Is it running an application program or a z/OS utility that might have 
increased in size?


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Subject: z/os 1.11 and low private

 Hi all - we have stumbled across an issue where an application runs out of low 
private (ABEND S878-10) when run under z/os 1.11. It is very tight, but runs ok 
under z/os 1.9.

We compared the private under both z/os versions and, if anything, the 1.11 
seems a little larger.

The application folks are working the issue, so I'm just looking for any 
differences in z/os that may help the application folks better craft their 
solutions.

The nature of the application makes it very difficult to reproduce the problem 
in a test mode.

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Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne  Lynn Wheeler) writes:
 switch to PC). the mid-80s, PC and workstations were getting
 sophisticated enough that they were becoming there own network nodes as
 part of distributed computing ... except with heavy mainframe
 datacenters (both internally and with customers) ... but the
 communication division was attempting to staunchly preserve their
 terminal emulation install base. While on the internet ... moremore of
 these workstations and PCs were becoming network nodes ... on the
 internal network, they were still restricted to only doing terminal
 emulation.  misc. past posts mentioning terminal emulation
 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

additional topic drift is nsfnet backbone (the operational precursor
to the modern internet). I had been doing HSDT (high-speed data
transport) project which included working with some of the
participants that would be part of the NSFNET backbone. misc.
past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

When the RFP came out, there was various internal politics and we were
precluded from bidding. The director of NSF wrote a letter to the
corporation (copying the CEO) trying to at least get some participation
in the activity (had support from chief scientist from various
gov. agencies). The letter just aggravated the internal politics that
prevented us from bidding on the RFP in the first place (references to
having deployed technology internally that was at least five years ahead
of all bid submissions to build something new, didn't
help). ... misc. old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

in the middle of HSDT, some of the technology was being built on the
other side of the pacific. The friday before a business trip there, the
communication group announced a new internal discussion group on high
speed communication ... the announcement included the following
definitions:

low-speed   9.6kbits
medium-speed19.2kbits
high-speed  56kbits
very high-speed 1.5mbits

The following monday in a conference room (on the other side of the
pacific), there were the following definitions:

low-speed   20mbits
medium-speed100mbits
high-speed  200-300mbits
very high-speed 600mbits

as an aside, internal discussion groups had come a long way. I had
been blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network
in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore is that when the executive
committee (chairman, ceo, pres, etc) were finally informed about
computer conferencing (and the internal network), five of six wanted
to immediately fire me (the purported hold-out went on to provide the
funding channeled into HSDT).

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Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-19 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Hal,
Are there any differences in IEFUSI memory limits between systems?
Are Language Environment runtime options the same?

Final question: Is the application written in COBOL or PL/I and/or Language
Environment - compliant?
In that case, you might be able to force/move COBOL WORKING STORAGE (or
equivalent memory allocations) above the 16M - line by means of an L/E
runtime parm, /HEAP(x,y), thus freeing up storage below the line.
Here's an old JCL sample I have lying around from the early 90's and some
comments I wrote at that time. The problem program I was dealing with
tended to run for several hours, required varying amounts of storage and
then abended at end of execution when attempting to close files (CLOSE
needed some storage below the line and couldn't get it anymore).
//STEP1  EXEC  PGM=JX100,   
//   PARM='/RPTSTG(ON),RPTOPTS(ON),HEAP(16M,1M)'
//*  HEAP(16M,1M) MOVES COBOL WORKING STORAGE ABOVE THE LINE INTO   
//*  31BIT TERRITORY BECAUSE THE INITAL SIZE REQUEST IS 16M, THAT  
//*  IS MORE THAN IS AVAILABLE BELOW THE 16M LINE. SECONDARY AMOUNTS
//*  ARE ADDED ON ABOVE THE LINE, TOO.  
//*  THIS OPTION IS USEFUL FOR PROGRAMS THAT NEED LOTS OF MEMORY
//*  AND TEND TO ABEND S878 DUE TO RUNNING OUT OF STORAGE BELOW 16M   
//*  BECAUSE L.E. REPEATEDLY GETMAINED SMALL AMOUNTS OF STORAGE 
//*  UNTIL EVERY LAST BIT WAS GONE. 
//*  REMEMBER: IN BATCH, THE DEFAULT FOR HEAP IS (32K,32K) BELOW
//SYSOUT   DD  SYSOUT=*  RPTSTG AND RPTOPTS REPORTS GO HERE

Those comments were based on early L.E. behavior and may be outdated, so
please look up the L.E. runtime options in effect in your system.
Perhaps that will help solve your problem. Try the RPTSTG and RPTOPTS
options to see the actual memory needs and options in effect.

Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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Subject: z/os 1.11 and low private

 Hi all - we have stumbled across an issue where an application runs out of
low private (ABEND S878-10) when run under z/os 1.11. It is very tight, but
runs ok under z/os 1.9.

We compared the private under both z/os versions and, if anything, the 1.11
seems a little larger.

The application folks are working the issue, so I'm just looking for any
differences in z/os that may help the application folks better craft their
solutions.

The nature of the application makes it very difficult to reproduce the
problem in a test mode.

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Re: DFSORT: SUM count?

2010-10-19 Thread Frank Yaeger
Frank Swarbuck on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
wrote on 10/18/2010 03:49:54 PM:
 Is there any way using the SUM statement to get not only the totals
 but the total number of records that fed in to that total?
 In other words, if I have 10 records with duplicate keys totalling
 500.00 I want to know that there were 10 (maybe put it in to a count
 field somewhere in the OUTREC).

Frank,

You could probably use the SECTIONS parameter of DFSORT's OUTFIL statement
with
TOTAL and COUNT to do what you want more easily.  SECTIONS is more flexible
then SUM.

But if you want to do it with SUM, you can just set up a counter with a ZD
1
in it somewhere in the record and SUM that.

If you want more help with this, feel free to send me the details offline
(an example of your input and expected output, rules for getting from input
to output, RECFM, LRECL, position, length and format of fields).

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com
Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration

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Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-19 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Maybe a SLIP on the 878 will show you exactly who is doing GETMAINs which might 
point you in the correct direction.

VERBX VSMDATA 'noglobal detail' 


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Subject: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

There are no known differences in the application, and we pay close attention 
to that. 

The application may, however, be invoking some z/os service(s) that have grown. 
The application is starting up (opening files, setting up telecom, etc) when 
the shortage occurs.  

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

Is it running an application program or a z/OS utility that might have 
increased in size?


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Hal Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: z/os 1.11 and low private

 Hi all - we have stumbled across an issue where an application runs out of low 
private (ABEND S878-10) when run under z/os 1.11. It is very tight, but runs ok 
under z/os 1.9.

We compared the private under both z/os versions and, if anything, the 1.11 
seems a little larger.

The application folks are working the issue, so I'm just looking for any 
differences in z/os that may help the application folks better craft their 
solutions.

The nature of the application makes it very difficult to reproduce the problem 
in a test mode.

Thanks!!
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Re: Someone has training manuals or notes that can help me

2010-10-19 Thread N agesh S
Not worked in mainframes, yet ? Try the IBM Redbook series : Introduction
to New Mainframe'.

Nagesh

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Cheryl Walker che...@watsonwalker.comwrote:

 Hilario,

 Despite the off-topic comments, you have a legitimate request.  And I
 suspect that over the next couple of years, there will be similar requests
 on this forum from other new sysprogs.  Before you can function as a system
 programmer, you will need to become familiar with the mainframe.  I have a
 link on my website for a couple of z/OS 101 Primers -
 http://www.watsonwalker.com/articles.html, which is one place you can
 start.  For you, one of the best will be the Redbook called the P/390:
 OS/390 New User's Cookbook - SG24-4757 -
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg244757.html?Open.  This was
 developed for a developer's machine in 1999, but it is quite handy for a new
 sysprog.  By using the links provided in responses to your question and the
 links in my primer, you should have a good start on learning the mainframe.

 With that in hand, however, the task of migrating from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS
 1.11 is almost an impossible task without some experienced help.  No matter
 what country you're in, you can probably locate someone who can help you
 remotely, and I think you'll need that.  Depending on the size of your
 current installation, you might well have a better chance of success with
 installing z/OS 1.11 in a separate LPAR and slowly move the libraries and
 user to the new machine.  If you go this route, try to use IBM's defaults
 whenever possible, rather than create new and difficult to manage naming
 standards.

 My best advice is to get your vendor, IBM or 3rd party, to get you started.

 Best regards,
 Cheryl

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 On Oct 4, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Hilario G. wrote:

 Hi colleagues,

 I have not work in mainframe environment and now I have to perform the
 functions of System Programmer.

 I have no time to attend training and in my country there are no planned
 training courses for not having enough workers to justify the course.

 Some of you you can tell me if there are training manuals or the can makes
 me
 get my email on the following topics:
 - Installing Z / OS
 - SMPE
 - SMS
 - RACF
 - USS
 - HFS
 - CICS
 - IMS / DB
 - REXX and CLIST
 - JES2
 - VSAM
 - DB2

 I have manuals that IBM would need is if someone has information that can
 help me (types of training books or notes).

 Thank you very much.

 Hilario

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Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-19 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Found this in my z/OS 1.11 mailbox. Don't know if it has any bearing on your 
problem:

Comments:
Ran into a situation with a couple of RESTORE jobs that abend with an S878-10 
when using the default REGION in z/OS 1.11.  
As best I can tell, the default REGION is set to 2MB in the JES2PARM member.  
This appears to be the same as it was with z/OS 1.9.  On a couple of our 1.11 
systems, it still runs fine without a REGION parameter being coded in the JCL.  
But, on some of our systems I get this abend when I don't specify a REGION 
parameter in the JCL:
 IEA705I ERROR DURING GETMAIN SYS CODE = 878-10
RESTJOB2 JS010 00

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Maybe a SLIP on the 878 will show you exactly who is doing GETMAINs which might 
point you in the correct direction.

VERBX VSMDATA 'noglobal detail' 


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There are no known differences in the application, and we pay close attention 
to that. 

The application may, however, be invoking some z/os service(s) that have grown. 
The application is starting up (opening files, setting up telecom, etc) when 
the shortage occurs.  

 

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Is it running an application program or a z/OS utility that might have 
increased in size?


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Subject: z/os 1.11 and low private

 Hi all - we have stumbled across an issue where an application runs out of low 
private (ABEND S878-10) when run under z/os 1.11. It is very tight, but runs ok 
under z/os 1.9.

We compared the private under both z/os versions and, if anything, the 1.11 
seems a little larger.

The application folks are working the issue, so I'm just looking for any 
differences in z/os that may help the application folks better craft their 
solutions.

The nature of the application makes it very difficult to reproduce the problem 
in a test mode.

Thanks!!
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abend percolation

2010-10-19 Thread Moore, Ken
Hi.

Brief summary:  how to get a main task to abend with the same code as an 
abending sub-task.

I noticed a problem a couple of days ago with a process we have had in place 
for a long time.   We have a main program whose sole function is to set an 
address space non-swappable and bump the dispatching priority, before attaching 
a TCB to run the real target program.  The problem is that when the TCB running 
the target program abends (in this case, it was an S806 because the steplib was 
faulty), the main task returns an RC0 back to the operating system.

Here is the current ATTACH

 ATTACH EPLOC=PGMNAME,ECB=ECB, *
   SM=PROB,*
   KEY=PROP,   *
   RSAPF=YES

I'm trying to get the abend to percolate back to the main task and back to the 
operating system.  I've tried specifying an ESTAI on the ATTACH, and the ESTAI 
routine gets control for abends, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to 
tell GCS to percolate.  Any hints?  I just need the job to abend instead of 
returning RC0 (or a default RC that I set in the ESTAI routine).

New attach:
 LAR1,PARMPTR
 ATTACH EPLOC=PGMNAME,ECB=ECB, *
   SM=PROB,*
   KEY=PROP,   *
   RSAPF=YES,  *
   ESTAI=TERMEXIT


I'm trying to make this as simple as possible, but I've tried different 
variations of SETRP as well.

 USING TERMEXIT,R12
TERMEXIT DS0H
 LRR12,R15
 STM   R14,R12,12(R13) SAVE REGS IN SAVE AREA
 LRR12,R15 ESTABLISH ADDRESSABILITY
 STR13,SAVER13 SAVE R13
 L R13,SAVE@   LOAD THIS PROGRAM'S R13
 LAR15,32  DEFAULT TO RC 32 FOR ABENDS
 STCM  R15,B'',RC  SAVE DEFAULT RC
 L R13,SAVER13 RESTORE REG 13
 LM   R14,R12,12(R13)  RESTORE REGISTERS
 XR   R15,R15  TELL GCS TO PERCOLATE
 BR   R14  BRANCH BACK TO GCS
TERMEXIT_FIXED DS 0H
* TERMEXIT_FIXED AREA
SAVE@DCA(SAVE)  ADDRESS OF PROGRAM RSA
SAVER13  DCA(0) HOLDING AREA FOR R13
T12A DCY(12)EYECATCHER FOR SDWA PRESENT
 LTORG ,


Ken




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How to determine maximun 3720 users (terminals) logged on

2010-10-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am running z/OS V1.11
TPX R5.2

I have been asked to determine the maximum number of users and what sessions 
(cics, ims,etc) that they are using.

What is my best option to creating a report for this.

Is there an SMF record?  We have MXG and SAS.

With TPX I would need to issue a F TPX,D T or F TPX,D U every few minutes to 
zOS and then summarize that data.  I would do this with a REXX using the 
console interface.

Otherwise, any other ideas?




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Re: How to determine maximun 3720 users (terminals) logged on

2010-10-19 Thread Richard L Peurifoy

On 10/19/2010 12:33 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:

I am running z/OS V1.11
TPX R5.2

I have been asked to determine the maximum number of users and what sessions 
(cics, ims,etc) that they are using.

What is my best option to creating a report for this.

Is there an SMF record?  We have MXG and SAS.

With TPX I would need to issue a F TPX,D T or F TPX,D U every few minutes to 
zOS and then summarize that data.  I would do this with a REXX using the 
console interface.

Otherwise, any other ideas?


Lizette,

TPX can optionally produce SMF records.
To see if you currently are, go into TPX administration
and enter 1 for System Options  

Then Select the System Options Table you are using.

Enter 8 for Optional Parameters.

If you have an SMF Record Number specified, you should be
creating SMF records.

The records are described in the System Customization Guide.
There is a MACRO for them in GENLIB(MONSMF).

It is relatively easy to find what applications are being used.

The interval record might have the max users in it, if not
you may have to keep track of TPX signon/signoff events to
calculate it.

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Re: abend percolation

2010-10-19 Thread Dave Day
,ECB=ecb addr 
Specifies the address of an event control block for the subtask. The system 
uses this to indicate the termination of the subtask. This enables the issuer 
of the attach to wait on it, using the WAIT macro, and enables the system to 
post it on behalf of the terminating task. The return code, (when the task 
terminates normally), or the completion code, (when the task terminates 
abnormally), is placed in the event control block. When this parameter is 
coded, a DETACH macro must be issued to remove the subtask from virtual storage 
after the subtask terminates. The system assumes that the ECB is in the home 
address space.



Ken,
The above from the assembler services guide.  Are you checking the 
completion code in the ecb?  

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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Ricc Harding
I have always taken comfort in the fact that every message was going to be
on the syslog. This always gave an immutable paper trail (remember when we
tried to print the hardcopy log on paper.

Maybe I am an anachronism but I think the syslog should always have every
message all the time. If you don't want to see every message then don't look
at the syslog.

I would absolutely vote NO to changing the way the syslog messages are
recorded and would NOT ever like to see messages disappear.

There HAS to be a place where the entire story is still available IMNSHO.

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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Richard L Peurifoy

On 10/19/2010 1:06 PM, Ricc Harding wrote:

I have always taken comfort in the fact that every message was going to be
on the syslog. This always gave an immutable paper trail (remember when we
tried to print the hardcopy log on paper.

Maybe I am an anachronism but I think the syslog should always have every
message all the time. If you don't want to see every message then don't look
at the syslog.

I would absolutely vote NO to changing the way the syslog messages are
recorded and would NOT ever like to see messages disappear.

There HAS to be a place where the entire story is still available IMNSHO.


But if I understand this correctly, these messages normally didn't
go to syslog. They only went to syslog if MPF deleted them from the
console.

Perhaps it would help if we had a sample of the sorts of messages that
specify no hardcopy.

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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Gord Tomlin

On 2010-10-15 10:53 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote:

Back then, every message was
considered sacrosanct, so a design decision was made to guarantee that a
message could always be found in the SYSLOG even if it was suppressed from
display.

That design decision no longer makes sense. Messages are no longer
sacrosanct;


It appears from the responses you have received that a number of people 
do consider all messages to be sacrosanct. Not too many people want to 
wade through the volume of messages today, but many people do value them 
as an audit trail.


I think you need to ensure that the current behavior remains available 
as an option. Perhaps it would be good to initially make the current 
behavior the default and then switch the default later, as has been done 
for various other items such as ALLOWUSERKEYCSA and REUSASID.


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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Guy Gardoit
If it ain't broke (and it isn't!), don't fix it.

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:53 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.netwrote:

 MPF has the following behavior:

 If SUP(YES) or SUP(ALL) is coded on an MPFLSTxx message definition or on
 a .NO_ENTRY statement, any matching message will always be written to
 hardcopy (unless overridden by an MPF exit) even if the message -- when
 issued -- specified no hardcopy (i.e. MPF always forces a matching message
 that is to be suppressed from display to be hardcopied).

 MPF was created to reduce console message rates for the 3084 machine (our
 first 4-way MP -- all of about 27 MIPs). Back then, every message was
 considered sacrosanct, so a design decision was made to guarantee that a
 message could always be found in the SYSLOG even if it was suppressed from
 display.

 That design decision no longer makes sense. Messages are no longer
 sacrosanct; we've allowed you to delete them completely for quite awhile
 (even if we didn't make it easy for you to do so). As part of the Console
 Restructure, we enhanced the handling of MONITOR messages so that
 automation programs could receive the messages without the messages
 having to be written to the SYSLOG or OPERLOG. Unfortunately, it appears
 that if you create an entry in MPFLSTxx for a MONITOR message (say
 IEF403I) and MONITOR processing has requested that the message be issued
 no hardcopy, MPF will override the no hardcopy and force the message to be
 hardcopied.

 To make a long story short: we are proposing to change MPF processing so
 that it no longer forces matching messages to hardcopy. If a message is
 issued requesting that the message be hardcopied (the default), MPF will
 honor it; if the message is issued requesting that the message not be
 hardcopied, MPF will no longer override the request (forcing the message to
 be
 hardcopied).

 If we decide to make this change, it will be done on a release boundary
 with
 appropriate Interface Change Notifications (ICNs) to the venders in advance
 of the release being available.

 Make sense? I'd like to hear your comments...

 W. Kevin Kelley  -- IBM Pok Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

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IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Craig Dudley
Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss

using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.

This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8 
browser running in my Parallels Windows session.

Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac browsers?

BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback but 
that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into the 
Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit for 
the box. This is using IE 8.
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Using the CSNBKPI call in ICSF

2010-10-19 Thread David Ziegler
Hey all,
 
I am trying to use the CSNBKPI call in ICSF and am creating PINGEN keys but the 
funny thing is that they don't agree with the same keys created by the KGUP 
utility so I know I must be doing something wrong when i'm calling CSNBKPI - 
for instance if I generate PINs using the key created by CSNBKPI i get one set 
of PIN offsets.  If I use what is supposedly the same key value that was 
created by the KGUP utility, i get entirely different PIN offsets.
 
I am assuming the KEY_PART parameter of CSNBKPI call is supposed to be the 
clear key value of one part of the key.  Is that assumption correct?  For 
instance, let's say that the clear key value of a 2DES PINGEN key is 
x'0123456789abcdef' for part one and x'fedcba9876543210' for the second part.  
I assume that I would put just those values into the KEY_PART parameter; That 
I'd call it twice, once with the first clear key value and then a seoncd time 
with the second clear key value.  Then a third time to complete the key.
 
If this is not correct, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
 
Any help would be appreciated 
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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Gates, Guy
Hi,

 I sent them an Email and got this reply...


Hello Guy Gates:

We are experiencing technical difficulties.  Work is underway to resolve
the problem as soon as possible.  We apologize for the inconvenience
this
has caused you.

Thank you for your interest in Announcement Letters.

The Global Announcements Team




Thanks...Guy M. Gates Jr.
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Email: guy.ga...@ttiinc.com

z/OS - World class computing.
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Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss

using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.

This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8 
browser running in my Parallels Windows session.

Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac browsers?

BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback but 
that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into the

Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit
for 
the box. This is using IE 8.
Thanks

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Re: Using the CSNBKPI call in ICSF

2010-10-19 Thread Elliot, David
Difficult to know what to suggest as the steps you took appear logical. Just 
one thing comes to mind, when you generated the key using KGUP did you have 
special secure mode set to YES?. Is this your normal operating setting or could 
SSM have been set to NO since that key was generated?. I don't know what would 
happen to CSNBPGN if SSM is NO. I'm assuming you checked return and reason 
codes from the call.


David Elliot
 
zSeries Software Support


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Subject: Using the CSNBKPI call in ICSF

Hey all,
 
I am trying to use the CSNBKPI call in ICSF and am creating PINGEN keys but the 
funny thing is that they don't agree with the same keys created by the KGUP 
utility so I know I must be doing something wrong when i'm calling CSNBKPI - 
for instance if I generate PINs using the key created by CSNBKPI i get one set 
of PIN offsets.  If I use what is supposedly the same key value that was 
created by the KGUP utility, i get entirely different PIN offsets.
 
I am assuming the KEY_PART parameter of CSNBKPI call is supposed to be the 
clear key value of one part of the key.  Is that assumption correct?  For 
instance, let's say that the clear key value of a 2DES PINGEN key is 
x'0123456789abcdef' for part one and x'fedcba9876543210' for the second part.  
I assume that I would put just those values into the KEY_PART parameter; That 
I'd call it twice, once with the first clear key value and then a seoncd time 
with the second clear key value.  Then a third time to complete the key.
 
If this is not correct, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
 
Any help would be appreciated   

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Subject: ICSF  CSNBKPI

Hey all,

I’m looking for some advice regarding an unusual ICSF issue my shop is 
encountering using the CSNBKPI call.  I work in a z/OS 1.11 environment using 
HCR7751.

I have created a COBOL batch program that will hopefully be used in the future 
by our Information Security dept to add 2 key parts to build a PINGEN keytype 
(2DES).  It is control card driven and each Infosec officer will place the key 
label and their hex key value on the control card.
They will indicate if this is the first key part or second key part and run the 
job.  The control card info will be read and the key token will be built (the 
first time) with the CSNBKTB Call, then the CSNBKPI will import the key part.  
The key label will be Created or Written depending the circumstances (using 
CSNBKRC or CSNBKRW whether this is a new key or existing).  For the second key 
part the key label is Read (CSNBKRR) and then the CSNBKPI process is called 
using the key label name as the key_identifier field to update the key on the 
CKDS.

Lastly when both key parts have been added one of the InfoSec officers will run 
the job one last time to activate the PINGEN key using another control card 
parameter.  After I had built this program in test and created a test key I was 
able to run the PIN generation service (CSNBPGN) and successfully generate some 
test PIN offsets.  So far so good – I was ready to pat myself on the back!

Now prior to building the key using my new key import program, we already had a 
PINGEN key out in test that was recently built using the KGUP utility.  Its 
test key value is the exact same value.  Using this other PINGEN key I can also 
Call CSNBPGN to issue PIN offsets.  The problem is the PIN offset values 
produced by the KGUP Key are not the same as the PIN offset values produced by 
sister key above that was built using CSNBKPI Calls!!!

At first I thought it’s got to be a simple logic error.  I checked my code, 
the length of parameters.  That looked good.  I read each of the labels (the 
key built using CSNBKPI calls and the key built using KGUP) and dumped their 
key tokens and looked at the control vectors in their tokens.  Both matched.

Then I thought that perhaps the Key_Part parameter of the CSNBKPI call might be 
the 16 byte hex representation rather than the 8 byte binary value of the key 
part.

I looked at the actual part 1 and 2 of the 2DES key in each token – these 
values aren’t the same between the KGUP key and the CSNBKPI key, but I’m 
thinking that ICSF is sophisticated enough to disguise those values somehow.

Can anyone provide any clues as to how to research this very weird issue?
Because the KGUP utility is tried and true, I have to believe it’s got to be 
the Key Part Import process I just built.  But until I can get the two to 
match, I can’t certify that the key part import code works.

Any help or suggestions of next steps would be appreciated!


  

Re: abend percolation

2010-10-19 Thread John McKown
You cannot perculate an agenda from one task to another. You will need to
make the second task whens visits own ABEND macro. I imagine this is not
what you want. Why use ATTACH? Why not do all the setup and then XCTL or
LINK?

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On Oct 19, 2010 12:58 PM, Dave Day david...@consolidated.net wrote:

,ECB=ecb addr
Specifies the address of an event control block for the subtask. The system
uses this to indicate the termination of the subtask. This enables the
issuer of the attach to wait on it, using the WAIT macro, and enables the
system to post it on behalf of the terminating task. The return code, (when
the task terminates normally), or the completion code, (when the task
terminates abnormally), is placed in the event control block. When this
parameter is coded, a DETACH macro must be issued to remove the subtask from
virtual storage after the subtask terminates. The system assumes that the
ECB is in the home address space.



Ken,
   The above from the assembler services guide.  Are you checking the
completion code in the ecb?

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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Chase, John
Works fine for me (Chicago area) using IE 8.

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 Hi,
 I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:
 
 http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss
 
 using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
 getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.
 
 This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8
 browser running in my Parallels Windows session.
 
 Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac
browsers?
 
 BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback
but
 that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into
the
 Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit
for
 the box. This is using IE 8.
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Re: IPCS dump where command what subpool

2010-10-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 19 October 2010 11:58, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote:
 Hi,
 I am getting unable to identify the area
 At .  Where 
 Is an address from the Where command.  even if the area is unallocated
 sholudn't IPCS know what subpool it belongs to

Not in general... VSM doesn't divide up available virtual storage in
advance into subpool ranges. It may be possible to say that a given
address cannot be in subpool n, e.g. an ATL address could not be in a
subpool that is specified to be BTL, or an address in the common range
can't end up being in subpool 0-127, but generally an unallocated
address could be allocated to many possible subpools when the time
comes.

If your address is within a page with subpool n storage already
allocated in it, then (I think) it would be safe to say that your
address would be in subpool n should it be allocated later. But that
could change (say, if the entire page were to be freed and then
reused), so I'm not sure what useful knowledge you would gain from
such a response.

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Re: Using the CSNBKPI call in ICSF

2010-10-19 Thread Salah Balboul
David,

SSM is set to YES.

Thx

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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Cheryl Walker
The link work fine for me using Safari 5.0.2 on a Mac.

I also use this for z/OS - http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/news.html

Cheryl

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On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Craig Dudley wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss

using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.

This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8 
browser running in my Parallels Windows session.

Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac browsers?

BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback but 
that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into the 
Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit for 
the box. This is using IE 8.
Thanks

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Re: DFSORT: SUM count?

2010-10-19 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I just needed a quick and dirty program to tell me how many duplicate records 
were in a file.
I ended up doing something else, though I've already forgotten what!
But I will review your ideas more thoroughly later.
Thanks!
Frank

On 10/19/2010 at 10:57 AM, in message
of34d2219c.e1986267-on882577c1.005ce6a8-882577c1.005d3...@us.ibm.com, Frank
Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 Frank Swarbuck on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 wrote on 10/18/2010 03:49:54 PM:
 Is there any way using the SUM statement to get not only the totals
 but the total number of records that fed in to that total?
 In other words, if I have 10 records with duplicate keys totalling
 500.00 I want to know that there were 10 (maybe put it in to a count
 field somewhere in the OUTREC).
 
 Frank,
 
 You could probably use the SECTIONS parameter of DFSORT's OUTFIL statement
 with
 TOTAL and COUNT to do what you want more easily.  SECTIONS is more flexible
 then SUM.
 
 But if you want to do it with SUM, you can just set up a counter with a ZD
 1
 in it somewhere in the record and SUM that.
 
 If you want more help with this, feel free to send me the details offline
 (an example of your input and expected output, rules for getting from input
 to output, RECFM, LRECL, position, length and format of fields).
 
 Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com 
 Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration
 
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Re: IPCS dump where command what subpool

2010-10-19 Thread Micheal Butz


Is there any way of knowing whether an address is pvt or common


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Re: DFSORT: SUM count?

2010-10-19 Thread Mike Schwab
This example was for counting the duplicates of each record.  If you
want the total count of duplicates, it tells you in the number of
records deleted.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick
frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote:
 I just needed a quick and dirty program to tell me how many duplicate 
 records were in a file.
 I ended up doing something else, though I've already forgotten what!
 But I will review your ideas more thoroughly later.
 Thanks!
 Frank

 On 10/19/2010 at 10:57 AM, in message
 of34d2219c.e1986267-on882577c1.005ce6a8-882577c1.005d3...@us.ibm.com, Frank
 Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 Frank Swarbuck on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 wrote on 10/18/2010 03:49:54 PM:
 Is there any way using the SUM statement to get not only the totals
 but the total number of records that fed in to that total?
 In other words, if I have 10 records with duplicate keys totalling
 500.00 I want to know that there were 10 (maybe put it in to a count
 field somewhere in the OUTREC).

 Frank,

 You could probably use the SECTIONS parameter of DFSORT's OUTFIL statement
 with
 TOTAL and COUNT to do what you want more easily.  SECTIONS is more flexible
 then SUM.

 But if you want to do it with SUM, you can just set up a counter with a ZD
 1
 in it somewhere in the record and SUM that.

 If you want more help with this, feel free to send me the details offline
 (an example of your input and expected output, rules for getting from input
 to output, RECFM, LRECL, position, length and format of fields).

 Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com
 Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration

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Re: IPCS dump where command what subpool

2010-10-19 Thread Mike Schwab
Do an IPLINFO to find the ranges of the various areas?

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote:

 Is there any way of knowing whether an address is pvt or common

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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Scott Fagen
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:53:07 -0500, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net
wrote:
-snip-
 As part of the Console
Restructure, we enhanced the handling of MONITOR messages so that
automation programs could receive the messages without the messages
having to be written to the SYSLOG or OPERLOG. Unfortunately, it appears
that if you create an entry in MPFLSTxx for a MONITOR message (say
IEF403I) and MONITOR processing has requested that the message be issued
no hardcopy, MPF will override the no hardcopy and force the message to be
hardcopied.

To make a long story short: we are proposing to change MPF processing so
that it no longer forces matching messages to hardcopy. If a message is
issued requesting that the message be hardcopied (the default), MPF will
honor it; if the message is issued requesting that the message not be
hardcopied, MPF will no longer override the request (forcing the message to be
hardcopied).
-snip-

There's no problem definition here and the second paragraph in the excerpt
appears to be a generalization of a response or an overreaction to the
statement of fact in the first paragraph.

What problem are you trying to solve?  Best inference I can make is that
there is a flood of MONITOR messages overrunning the SYSLOG capability to
consume them.  If so, then the desired behavior change would amount to
honor MPF deletion of MONITOR messages.

Scott Fagen
Chief Architect
CA Technologies - Mainframe

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Re: DFSORT: SUM count?

2010-10-19 Thread Frank Yaeger
Frank Swarbuck on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
wrote on 10/19/2010 01:37:16 PM:
 I just needed a quick and dirty program to tell me how many
 duplicate records were in a file.
 I ended up doing something else, though I've already forgotten what!
 But I will review your ideas more thoroughly later.

My first recommendation was based on getting both totals and counts, which
is
what I thought you originally asked for.  If you just want a count of
the duplicate records, the OCCUR operator of DFSORT's ICETOOL will
do that quite easily:

OCCUR FROM(IN) LIST(OUT) ON(p,m,f) ON(VALCNT) ALLDUPS

For more information on what you can do with OCCUR, see:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA50/7.11?DT=20100630155256

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Re: abend percolation

2010-10-19 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip--


You cannot perculate an agenda from one task to another. You will need to
make the second task whens visits own ABEND macro. I imagine this is not
what you want. Why use ATTACH? Why not do all the setup and then XCTL or
LINK?
 


unsnip--
ATTACH allows asynchronous processing.
LINK allows ONLY synchronous processing
XCTL passes control to the object of the XCTL, without possibility of return

There are excellent reasons for the existance of each mechanism, but the 
consequences need to be carefully considered.


Rick

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CA-OPS/MVS to IBM's System Automation?

2010-10-19 Thread John McKown
We may be doing this conversion . Has anybody else out there done it? Or
maybe not!

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Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Mon, 10/18/10, Anne  Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote:

From: Anne  Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com
Subject: Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 11:27 AM
--SNIP---
a simple example of the orientation was that the advanced workstation
division had shipped the PC/RT with 16bit AT-bus and had developed their
own 4mbit token-ring card. For the RS6000, things moved to microchannel
and AWD was told that they had to (only) use PS2 adapter cards.  The PS2
microchannel 16mbit T/R card was designed/developed for the 300+
stations on lan segment doing terminal emulation ... and as a result the
PS2 microchannel 16mbit T/R card had lower per card thruput than the
PC/RT 4mbit T/R card (there was joke that if the RS6000 was only to use
PS2 adapter cards, it wouldn't run any faster than a PS2).

-- 
Lynn:
Sorry I did go off on a slight tangent. What I was just trying to say I had to 
login through HONE to an MVS system that had the TSO Session Manager 
installed.The only HONE terminal was at IBM building. We were a fairly large 
accountbut the IBMers had to share desk area with us systems programmers.
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Re: S013-64-IEBGENER

2010-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Sun, 10/17/10, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:

From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: S013-64-IEBGENER
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 12:13 PM

escalate?  By whom?  Via what channel?  Rarely should tech support inform 
the reporting programmers' management of perceived unwise programming 
techniques.

Not necessarity programming techniques, but use of system resources can be more 
expensive than they should be (eg: poor blocking, especially on tape).
That's an interface issue, rather than a programming issue.
And, as a performance/capacity analyst, I have participated in many 
optimisation efforts, with recommendations that have changed programming.

-

Ted:
A LONG time ago and far far away the programming VP asked me to look into ways 
(cheap) of saving CPU time so the nightly batch system would run faster.
I had been peeking around here and there for other reasons so I said why not. I 
developed 5 or 6 programs that I would run daily to see who wasn't blocking 
their data and gross CPU consumption and over abundance of tape drive usage 
(and a few other items that I have long time forgotten).
I would send him a copy of the PIG report that became known company wide.I 
did not put names to programmers but they were easily found so while not naming 
people I did attach an USERID .
The VP was absolutely delighted and in his daily staff meeting with the 
supervisors he would hand copies out. The report became so well known I was 
asked by the data center manager to send him a copy as well.
There was no doubt about it programmers were lazy people. I forced an issue 
about not using block contains 1 record and came up with a simple report 
showing those and simply by reblocking (recompile with one statement chamged) 
got us back 3.5 percent cpu time (this was 20-25 jobs) . We were really running 
flat out and desperatly needed a faster system. The small gain allowed us to 
stave off a upgrade for about 6 months. It was a difficult environment and 
difficult to explain on here but the jist of it we (the company)  were paid on 
each trade that was cleared. Traders tended to be cheap so any extra money we 
got was hard fought for. 




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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip
As part of the Console Restructure, we enhanced the handling of MONITOR 
messages so that automation programs could receive the messages without 
the messages having to be written to the SYSLOG or OPERLOG. 
Unfortunately, it appears that if you create an entry in MPFLSTxx for a 
MONITOR message (say IEF403I) and MONITOR processing has requested that 
the message be issued no hardcopy, MPF will override the no hardcopy and 
force the message to be hardcopied.


To make a long story short: we are proposing to change MPF processing so 
that it no longer forces matching messages to hardcopy. If a message is 
issued requesting that the message be hardcopied (the default), MPF will 
honor it; if the message is issued requesting that the message not be 
hardcopied, MPF will no longer override the request (forcing the message 
to be hardcopied).

---unsnip
I would have a problem with this. My management looks upon SYSLOG as the 
Holy of Holies as far as message/commands are concerned. If I can't 
force ALL messages to SYSLOG, my management will go absolutely 
BALLISTIC. I don't mind using a little BAL code to set bits, but make 
sure that I'll be able to force all messages to SYSLOG.


Rick

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Re: IPCS dump where command what subpool

2010-10-19 Thread Micheal Butz

It's only IPLDATA from IPCS. And. Just gives me ipl date

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:



Do an IPLINFO to find the ranges of the various areas?

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net 
 wrote:


Is there any way of knowing whether an address is pvt or common


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Re: DFSORT: SUM count?

2010-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Frank Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com wrote:

From: Frank Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: DFSORT: SUM count?
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SNIP
Great suggestion Frank, thanks. Although I do remember somewhere in the cobwebs 
its been documented someplace. 
To be honest I do not ever recall having duplicate records except when there 
were tape problems and in an attempt to fix the tape problem one or two 
duplicates snuck in. For the LONGEST time our biggest issue with SMF was 
spanning issues and it did seem to happen trying to recover (again tape 
problems). One of the junior sysprogs wrote a fixer program for spanning 
issues. It was somewhat of a kludge but it did work.
When we went dasd for our smf files we stopped having many problems that I 
guess were endemic to tape.
We had put all of out SMF history files on the 3850 MSS and it was fast and 
reasonably error proof.
At another job we did not have the luxury of  DASD and put the SMF to tape. I 
used to use weekly tapes and the operators hated me as they knew they were in 
for a lot of tape mounts. Although that quickly disappeared when we got a SILO. 
Operators had it to easy after that. They did not have a clue that it meant 
eliminating their positions.
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IPCS Address space layout

2010-10-19 Thread Micheal Butz

Hi

Is there a IPCS command/subcommand to display the storage layout of  
the address. space in the dump


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Re: IPCS Address space layout

2010-10-19 Thread Tom Harper
VERBX VSMDATA

Tom Harper
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Hi

Is there a IPCS command/subcommand to display the storage layout of  
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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
Good comments from you all. Thanks!

The specific problem we are attempting to solve is interactions between 
MONITOR message generation and MPF. With the changes we made during the 
Console Restructure, MONITOR messages can be produced without a console 
requesting them. You can request that the messages not be queued to a 
console for display purposes (but will be queued to EMCS consoles for 
automation purposes) and you can request that the messages not be logged. 
All of this was done to allow customers whose automation require the 
messages to receive the messages but not have the messages -- optionally -- 
go anywhere else. The problem is that if a customer requests that the 
messages not be logged but puts an entry for the message in MPF, MPF 
undoes the no logging. The simple solution is to remove the message entry 
from MPF, but perhaps the customer wanted to drive an MPF exit, and then 
would be unable to do so.

There is a more general question and that is how should we be handling 
messages that are being generated solely for automation and being solely 
consumed by automation? The MONITOR messages are but the tip of the 
iceberg in this regard. We have had requests for ways of specifying on 
commands that the command response message is to be returned to the 
console (typically an EMCS automation console) but is not to be logged. 

From the comments I've seen so far, whatever we do must be optional.

W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

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Re: IPCS Address space layout

2010-10-19 Thread michealbutz
That doesn't do it it gives you free queue elements etc ETC

I am looking for easy reading where below 16 pvt about 16 pvt below 16 CSA 
above 16 CSA  
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VERBX VSMDATA

Tom Harper
IMS Utilities Development Team
Neon Enterprise Software
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Hi

Is there a IPCS command/subcommand to display the storage layout of  
the address. space in the dump

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Re: How to determine maximun 3720 users (terminals) logged on

2010-10-19 Thread Chris Mason
Lizette

Richard Peurifoy's suggestion may have everything you need.

It might have been helpful if you had emphasised *when* you needed the 
information:

1. After the event - in my experience with SMF from long ago, SMF is best for 
this option

2. As it's all happening

I can imagine your suits actually asked you for 1 and, if so, you might have 
posed the question as the following:

- I have been asked to determine the maximum number of users *there have 
been* and what *applications*[1] (cics, ims,etc) that they *were* using.

If your suits are interested in real-time, what I would do is turn to REXX 
programming wrapped around VTAM DISPLAY commands, specifically, the 
DISPLAY APPLS command[2]. I would hope you could rely on a naming 
convention in order to decide which APPL names were used by your 
Communications Server (CS) TN3270E server address space - which I assume 
you are using[also 2] - and another naming convention in order to decide 
which APPL names were used by your TPX address space. That way you could 
certainly, at the moment the VTAM command was entered, discover the 
maximum number of active CS TN3270E sessions/connections, the maximum 
number of active TPX relayed sessions and the applications to which they are 
connected, possibly as a total in the case of each application APPL name.

Checking how to apply maximum efficiency in limiting the output only to useful 
cases, I see that SCOPE=ACTSESS would be best. You may need to be sure 
that any one CS TN3270 session was really using TPX as opposed, say, to a 
direct logon to another application. In any case you will need to issue the 
DISPLAY ID commands from the names found in the DISPLAY APPLS command. 
This would be quite a fascinating problem to solve - in the execution if not in 
the essential design.

If now you wanted to create your own SMF records based on the numbers 
you discover, you could use the NetView VPDLOG command which, contrary to 
what is implied by the name, is a perfectly general purpose command for 
creating SMF records. If this is an useful suggestion, you could use the 
NetView EVERY command with the clist suggested above so that you can 
create SMF records at regular intervals, say every 10 minutes.

Once you've taken charge of your tools, you can do anything!

Chris Mason

[1] It's possible that the word sessions you used here refers to the name 
given to applications which a 3270 user can access in TPX - as nomenclature, 
potentially confusing!

[2] I first keyed DISPLAY TERMS - distracted by the terminals in your 
Subject line perhaps - and then had a Homer Simpson moment!

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:32:50 -0400, Lizette Koehler 
stars...@mindspring.com wrote:

I am running z/OS V1.11
TPX R5.2

I have been asked to determine the maximum number of users and what 
sessions (cics, ims,etc) that they are using.

What is my best option to creating a report for this.

Is there an SMF record?  We have MXG and SAS.

With TPX I would need to issue a F TPX,D T or F TPX,D U every few minutes 
to zOS and then summarize that data.  I would do this with a REXX using the 
console interface.

Otherwise, any other ideas?




Lizette

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Re: IPCS Address space layout

2010-10-19 Thread Tom Harper
VERBX VSMDATA is the closest off-the-shelf to what you want. To get exactly 
what you want, you'll need to write an IPCS REXX EXEC.

Tom Harper
IMS Utilities Development Team
Neon Enterprise Software
Sugar Land, TX  

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Subject: Re: IPCS Address space layout

That doesn't do it it gives you free queue elements etc ETC

I am looking for easy reading where below 16 pvt about 16 pvt below 16 CSA 
above 16 CSA  
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VERBX VSMDATA

Tom Harper
IMS Utilities Development Team
Neon Enterprise Software
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Subject: IPCS Address space layout

Hi

Is there a IPCS command/subcommand to display the storage layout of  
the address. space in the dump

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Re: IPCS Address space layout

2010-10-19 Thread David Kreiss
In IPCS try 2 (ANALYSIS) enter undocumented 6i option and select VSMINFO.

Dave 


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That doesn't do it it gives you free queue elements etc ETC

I am looking for easy reading where below 16 pvt about 16 pvt below 16 CSA 
above 16 CSA  
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VERBX VSMDATA

Tom Harper
IMS Utilities Development Team
Neon Enterprise Software
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Hi

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the address. space in the dump

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Storage usage in a job

2010-10-19 Thread Phil Smith
We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we can't figure 
out how to tell WHAT storage. Shortly before it blew off, the REAL column in 
SDSF showed 120T. We're pretty sure that wasn't 120 terabytes; it seems to be 
T for Thousand. But that isn't a lot of memory?!

Here's the job output when it failed - does this offer any clues? Any hints, or 
pointers to doc, are gratefully accepted!

EW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE EDCU FROM DDNAME -LNKLST- FAILED BECAUSE 
INSUFFICIENT STORAGE WAS AVAILABLE.
SV031I LIBRARY ACCESS FAILED FOR MODULE EDCU, RETURN CODE 24, REASON CODE 
26080021, DDNAME *LNKLST*
  --TIMINGS (MINS.)--
-PAGING COUNTS
STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC   EXCP   CONNTCBSRB  CLOCK   SERV  WORKLOAD  
PAGE  SWAP   VIO SWAPS
RUN3632 474037 51 345.99.00  482.8 558935  BATCH 
288K 0 0 0
HUDIUNIR ENDED.  NAME- TOTAL TCB CPU TIME= 345.99 TOTAL 
ELAPSED TIME= 482.8
HASP395 HUDIUNIR ENDED
--
...phsiii

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Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-19 Thread Mike Schwab
120T = 120,000 4K pages over 480,000,000 bytes

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com wrote:
 We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we can't 
 figure out how to tell WHAT storage. Shortly before it blew off, the REAL 
 column in SDSF showed 120T. We're pretty sure that wasn't 120 terabytes; it 
 seems to be T for Thousand. But that isn't a lot of memory?!

 Here's the job output when it failed - does this offer any clues? Any hints, 
 or pointers to doc, are gratefully accepted!

 EW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE EDCU FROM DDNAME -LNKLST- FAILED BECAUSE 
 INSUFFICIENT STORAGE WAS AVAILABLE.
 SV031I LIBRARY ACCESS FAILED FOR MODULE EDCU, RETURN CODE 24, REASON CODE 
 26080021, DDNAME *LNKLST*
                                              --TIMINGS (MINS.)--            
 -PAGING COUNTS
 STEPNAME PROCSTEP    RC   EXCP   CONN    TCB    SRB  CLOCK   SERV  WORKLOAD  
 PAGE  SWAP   VIO SWAPS
 RUN                3632 474037     51 345.99    .00  482.8 558935  BATCH     
 288K     0     0     0
 HUDIUNIR ENDED.  NAME-                     TOTAL TCB CPU TIME= 345.99 TOTAL 
 ELAPSED TIME= 482.8
 HASP395 HUDIUNIR ENDED
 --
 ...phsiii

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 p...@voltage.com
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 www.voltage.com

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Re: performance data for networkusage(TCP/IP, ethernet-adapter... on zOS)

2010-10-19 Thread Leopold Strauss

 Hi, Dennis,

Thank you for your hint.

But I am not looking for a product, but to get performance-data out of a 
normal application program.
I found the EZBNMIFR API , and I want to be sure, that it is really the 
only one.


br

Leo


On 19.10.2010 15:44, Givens, Dennis W. wrote:

If you are looking for a product that will provide this information.I 
suggest looking at IMPLEX from William Data Systems.
Free download for trial. Easy install. Very intuitive product. Vendor is very 
receptive to modifications of product.

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   Hi, all,

We need to get some realtime-performance-values about actual
network-usage for the used hardwareadapter and active connections.

With RMF there is no possibility, and I only found some calls with
TCPIP-NMI.

I would appreciate any hints.

Thanks in advance

Leo Strauss

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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Barbara Nitz
Mark,

1) It is recommended to NOT use IEFUSI for OMVS (I removed it many
years ago).
2) When I did, I checked for OMVS and skipped writing the messages:
 CLC   0(4,R5),=C'OMVS'
 BE   SKIPWTO

ehm, my USI does this (and has been since I rewrote it when memlimit came 
out):

CLC   0(4,SUBNAME),=C'OMVS'   
BNE   MNOMVS not OMVS 
MVC   16(8,RA),Z6GIG MEMLIMIT max for OMVS:=6G
B EXIT   so exit, memlimit stays 6GB  

Now, I don't understand what a 'step ended' message spit out for every step 
by IEFACTRT (hence TRT* message) has to do with IEFUSI? We also have 
a 'step has started' message named UJI001 spit out of IEFUJI. That dates from 
before my time here. 

:-)

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Re: Potential z/OS MPF behavior change -- comments please

2010-10-19 Thread Brian Westerman
The SyzMPF/z product we market has those same capabilities and (not just
because we market the product) I think it's better to allow individual sites
to decide on an individual basis what they want done with messages than to
change the entire default behavior.  

Creating a new function or adding a new type of behavior is a great idea, to
change the default is a bad idea.  I realize that it is looked at as a
default because of some past negligence, but it's a default none-the-less.
 The whole concept of default behavior changes when you start changing the
defaults.  

I don't think it stagnates a product to establish and adhere to certain
default behavior.  I think it's a sign of a great product to stick to the
rules and not change the rules because it might suit you at that period in
time.  What would keep IBM from deciding next year that it has another
better idea on what the default should be?

Personally I have used seemingly trivial Syslog entries to debug and correct
issues that would have been difficult or next to impossible to do in a
timely manner without them.  I don't think making a no-log default is ever a
good idea.

Just my $.02

Brian

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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
As of midnight central it is still not working on Safari.
Ed

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Gates, Guy guy.ga...@ttiinc.com wrote:

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Subject: Re: IBM Announcements URL
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Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:49 PM

Hi,

 I sent them an Email and got this reply...


Hello Guy Gates:

We are experiencing technical difficulties.  Work is underway to resolve
the problem as soon as possible.  We apologize for the inconvenience
this
has caused you.

Thank you for your interest in Announcement Letters.

The Global Announcements Team




Thanks...Guy M. Gates Jr.
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Email: guy.ga...@ttiinc.com

                    z/OS - World class computing.
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Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss

using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.

This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8 
browser running in my Parallels Windows session.

Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac browsers?

BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback but 
that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into the

Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit
for 
the box. This is using IE 8.
Thanks

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