Re: Opcode tables

2010-10-27 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/26/2010 
09:16:41 PM:
 
 are, in fact, macros still distributed in SYS1.MACLIB (even z/OS 1.11). 
I
 know what PGOUT used to be, and I am surprised IBM has left it in
 SYS1.MACLIB for so long. 

  PGOUT continues to be documented and supported. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: gzip123

2010-10-27 Thread Luc Martens (KBC)
John, thanks.

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Re: gzip123

2010-10-27 Thread Luc Martens (KBC)
Jan, this link does not work anymore. See reply of John. I found it there.

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Re: Necessity of UID zero.

2010-10-27 Thread R.S.

Mark Zelden pisze:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:08:22 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@stupid.com.pl wrote:


2. Since serverpac installation is (should) never been done on
productions system as a driver then auditors requirements are plain STUPID.


Why not?  Your driving system isn't affected.   Performance may be much
better also.   Other reasons could include having enough dasd for SMPNTS,
ICSF or other software you want / need on the driving system.   


1. Wide authorities needed for the installation. I.e. person who 
performs the installation need to create many RACF definitions which 
implies SPECIAL. It is usually against security policy.
2. Operations on ICF catalogs. Stupid human error could affect driving 
system. Not a big problem for sandbox/technology/test LPAR, big issue 
for production.
3. Similar problems with HFS filesystems - a mistake could result in 
change content of production filesystems.
4 Whole process is against rule of thumb: production system is for 
production, not for development, app. tests, system tests, etc.


So, UNLESS the installation is really performed on production (which I 
still strongly doobt), I sustain my opinion. Otherwise I would have very 
critical opinion about installation process.


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Re: gzip123

2010-10-27 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
http://ibmmainframes.com/about44137.html
still works with me, Luc.

*Main points:*

An executable for version 1.2.3  is in http://www.gzip.org/gzip123mvs.zip .

*(corresponds to John's reply) *



USS provides GZIP

GZIP version 1.2.4  supplied by IBM as part of Unix System Services ported
tools.

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/unix/bpxa1ty1.html



Jan

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Re: CA-OPS/MVS to IBM's System Automation?

2010-10-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:44:49 +0800 Timothy Sipples
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote:

:Binyamin Dissen writes:
:If ALERTs are issued for normal events, they no longer have value
:as ALERTs.

:Ah, but who decides whether they're normal or not (and then what actions,
:if any, to take)?

The person taking the action that would cause the unneeded alert. 

:Any even moderately capable console that collects SNMP alerts also has the
:capability to triage and filter them according to evolving rules that
:define normalcy. But if the alert never gets sent, then that filtering
:decision has already been made -- and *could* be made very badly. I tend to
:prefer reality and transparency.

:As I alluded to, it is possible to initiate additional alerts, such as:

:09:55 Information: Application XYZ123 will have 30 minute planned outage
:starting in 5 minutes.
:10:00 ALERT: Application XYZ123 is now offline.

That increases the number of ALERTs, as the one receiving the second message
has to pay attention to the first one in order to know that the ALERT is not
really an ALERT.

Of course, one could downgrade the level of the second message to
information in this context, but one may as well (from the context of
ALERTs) simply not deliver it (or, perhaps, always deliver XVZ123 is now
offline to those that wish to subscribe to information messages.

:There's also the issue of testing at the console (and beyond). If the
:alerts never get sent, how do you know that the real ones work (or even go
:anywhere)? The above example is the equivalent of a fire drill, or alert
:rehearsal. I tend to prefer that. Your opinions and practices may vary.

I am not arguing against drills. What I am arguing against is issuing an ALERT
when normal operations are taking place.

For example, let use say that XYZ123 is always scheduled offline on Sunday. Is
there a need for an ALERT when it goes down for Sunday? Or, perhaps, the ALERT
should only be delivered when it goes offline outside the schedule?

:And there's yet another reason to avoid obfuscation: to measure SLAs
:accurately. If you're secretly downing applications, is that getting
:reflected in Service-Level Agreement measurements? Probably not, and
:perhaps with accurate knowledge you wouldn't be downing applications so
:often (or at all), and/or somebody else could make an informed decision
:whether or not to improve the SLA of particular application functions. Way
:too many IT folks think that SLAs are only about unplanned hard-stop
:system-level outages. The end-user perspective is much more about can I
:get my work done? and that really is the only correct perspective. Can I
:get my work done? is answered by looking at end-to-end service delivery,
:both planned and unplanned outages, missed response time goals (not just
:down outages), plus some other factors (e.g. I can't log in!)

Then, again, it is not an ALERT but an information message.

Perhaps the person subscribes to all messages on his work computer but only
subscribes to ALERTs from his PDA. By sending XYZ123 is offline as an ALERT,
there will not be the context that XYZ123 was scheduled to be offline.

:Anyway, this discussion borders on the philosophical, but now you know my
:philosophy. :-)

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Re: Why on earth is the UTOKEN pointed to by CIBXUTOK in fetch protected storage?

2010-10-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:59:28 -0500 Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com wrote:

:On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:08:52 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
:bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote:

:Why on earth is the UTOKEN pointed to by CIBXUTOK in fetch protected storage?

:After all, the MODIFY interface is supported for non-privileged callers.

:Perhaps because (a) the CIB is in common storage and (b) the UTOKEN contains
:information (such as a group name and a SECLABEL name) that the installation
:might consider sensitive and want to keep private, rather than being visible
:to everyone running on the system.

I guess that could make sense. Pity that an XMEM post is used instead of an
SRB to copy the data and then post.

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Re: PDSE versus PDS

2010-10-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:50:56 -0300 Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca
wrote:

:On 26 Oct 2010 04:34:49 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

:I will forgive him his SYS1.NUCLEUS jibe, since the rest of his post 
:makes it clear that he knows very well where the real problem lies.

:Maybe I don't know. The only problem that I know of, and the reason that I 
:created deferred LPA wait,was the question of how an application, starting 
:after IPL, could know for sure that modules it needed to be in LPA (and 
:that needed to come from a PDSE) were actually available to the 
:application. Obviously for normal LPA, this is known because the IPL would 
:not have gotten to the point of starting applications without normal LPA 
:having been built. In practice, no one had complained about this, but it 
:had bothered me, so perhaps the silent majority had been too silent and 
:left it up to us to do what we thought needed doing.

:RAS problems with them at what I shall now call LPA-construction 
:time needed to be addressed.

:I'm not sure, but perhaps John misconstrued what I was getting at. Having 
:to have all the PDSE support code in common storage (and its data in the 
:master address space) rather than in a separate address space is a RAS 
:problem (and possibly a VSCR problem) that is not solvable without a 
:massive restructure to allow multiple address spaces before LPA is built. 
:That won't happen.. Yeah, you could conceive of the code living 
:temporarily in master's private and then the real copy live in its own 
:address space later, but that isn't going to happen either. This simply 
:comes back to the requirement: there is none. I was not referring to RAS 
:problems with PDSEs which would be,an entirely different matter and would 
:not need an LPA discussion to be brought forward. 

:Why would all of the PDSE support code have to be in memory for just
:the read and load functions?  Also could the read code be above the
:bar if just used for pintail load and discarded?

I am sure that it could. The question being, is it worth the expense? As there
have been few if any requests with 's attached, the answer is clearly
no.

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Re: 1.12 SDSF Problem

2010-10-27 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Thanks Bob.  This is very aggravating. Because there is no PTF available I 
guess, this one doesn't show up in either PSP bucket. (1.11 or 1.12). Since 
there is a workaround, I would have liked to have known about this. (Had I 
read it prior to the 5AM IPL I could have gotten a change in :)  

That's what makes this list so worthwhile! 

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FW: COBOL on the Rise?

2010-10-27 Thread McKown, John
Interesting post and URL below from another forum. Full URL is:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/hack/2010/10/which-programming-languages-ar.php?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+readwriteweb%2Fhack+%28ReadWriteHack%29

The surprise to me is Erlang. I've read up on it. I found it to be very 
interesting! But also very different, being a functional language (like LISP) 
instead of an imperative language like most (including COBOL). I think Erlang 
would be a wonderful language for CICS. It is inherently thread safe.

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Re: Necessity of UID zero.

2010-10-27 Thread Greg Shirey
I've never worked anywhere that had a separate development LPAR.  Production, 
QA, etc. are all done in one LPAR; the other LPAR is the systems programmer's 
sandbox.  So, I've always done Serverpac on Production, too, and it's seemed 
quite safe to me.  But it is interesting to gain some insight into what needs 
to be taken into consideration in other operating environments, though I am 
somewhat despondent that Radoslaw has such a critical opinion of me. :-)

Regards,
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1. Wide authorities needed for the installation. I.e. person who 
performs the installation need to create many RACF definitions which 
implies SPECIAL. It is usually against security policy.
2. Operations on ICF catalogs. Stupid human error could affect driving 
system. Not a big problem for sandbox/technology/test LPAR, big issue 
for production.
3. Similar problems with HFS filesystems - a mistake could result in 
change content of production filesystems.
4 Whole process is against rule of thumb: production system is for 
production, not for development, app. tests, system tests, etc.

So, UNLESS the installation is really performed on production (which I 
still strongly doobt), I sustain my opinion. Otherwise I would have very 
critical opinion about installation process.

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CTC Connectivity

2010-10-27 Thread Errol Van staden
Hi group! I am trying to gen some CTC connections on FICON for three LPARs 
on a single machine. All the existing ESCON channels are full up, so I am 
trying 
to gen the CTCs using FICON without going through a switch (no cabling 
requirements). 

I am using a channel with CUs 4020 4030 and 4040 on a shared channel and 
5020 5030 and 5040 on another shared channel.
With shared channels, the manual says that if the Unit address on both sides 
is 00 and the CUADD is equal to the LPAR number (the three LPAR numbers are 
are 2 3 and 4) then they should connect. The CTC connectivity panel shows 
no coonection between the 40nn and the 50nns.

4020 is used to send to LPAR 2. LPAR 2 is not in the device candidate list for 
4020 but is for 4030 and 4040
4030 is used to send to LPAR 3. LPAR 3 is not in the device candidate list for 
4030 but is for 4020 and 4040.
4040 is used to send to LPAR 4. LPAR 4 is not in the device candidate list for 
4040 but is for 4020 and 4030

Exactly the same applies to the 5020 5030 and 5040 CTCs.

Can anyone give me some guidance as to why they dont connect?

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Re: CTC Connectivity

2010-10-27 Thread Scott Rowe
The CTC connectivity report does not work for these types of definitions,
since it has no way of knowing that the two channels are connected to each
other.  It has always been this way  for ESCON/FICON CTCs without a switch.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Errol Van staden vs.er...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi group! I am trying to gen some CTC connections on FICON for three LPARs
 on a single machine. All the existing ESCON channels are full up, so I am
 trying
 to gen the CTCs using FICON without going through a switch (no cabling
 requirements).

 I am using a channel with CUs 4020 4030 and 4040 on a shared channel and
 5020 5030 and 5040 on another shared channel.
 With shared channels, the manual says that if the Unit address on both
 sides
 is 00 and the CUADD is equal to the LPAR number (the three LPAR numbers are
 are 2 3 and 4) then they should connect. The CTC connectivity panel shows
 no coonection between the 40nn and the 50nns.

 4020 is used to send to LPAR 2. LPAR 2 is not in the device candidate list
 for
 4020 but is for 4030 and 4040
 4030 is used to send to LPAR 3. LPAR 3 is not in the device candidate list
 for
 4030 but is for 4020 and 4040.
 4040 is used to send to LPAR 4. LPAR 4 is not in the device candidate list
 for
 4040 but is for 4020 and 4030

 Exactly the same applies to the 5020 5030 and 5040 CTCs.

 Can anyone give me some guidance as to why they dont connect?

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Re: Necessity of UID zero.

2010-10-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:48:31 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:


I don't have a problem with any of your reasons on why a development
or sandbox LPAR might be preferred, but I had a problem with the use of the
word never (or should never) since SeverPac is designed to be run from
a driving system without changing that system in any way that would be
harmful.   

I will also address some things below:

Mark Zelden pisze:
 On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:08:22 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@stupid.com.pl wrote:

 2. Since serverpac installation is (should) never been done on
 productions system as a driver then auditors requirements are plain STUPID.

 Why not?  Your driving system isn't affected.   Performance may be much
 better also.   Other reasons could include having enough dasd for SMPNTS,
 ICSF or other software you want / need on the driving system.

1. Wide authorities needed for the installation. I.e. person who
performs the installation need to create many RACF definitions which
implies SPECIAL. It is usually against security policy.

No more authorities are needed for installation of serverpac on any
production systems that I work with for any client than the system
programmers who do serverpac installations already have.Also,
z/OS is not the only serverpac that exists.  You can get ServerPac for
CICS, DB2, etc. also.  Those sysprogs always install their new versions of
software on the production sysplexes (while the MVS sysprogs do
occasionally install software from a testplex).   Since I like to get my
job done quicker, when I can, I still prefer to run installation jobs on an
LPAR with capacity instead of a 1 engine 20 MIP capped sandbox LPAR. :-)

2. Operations on ICF catalogs. Stupid human error could affect driving
system. Not a big problem for sandbox/technology/test LPAR, big issue
for production.

If someone can't define an alias to a new catalog (SSA) on the production
system without screwing it up, they shouldn't be attempting something as
involved as upgrading an OS.   The newbies should get their feet wet doing
other tasks. Hundreds operations on ICF catalogs in production are 
done every week (mostly new aliases for users, removing users).  These
are all standard operational activities and of course human error could
affect it.  Human error could also lead to deletion of SYS1.LINKLIB, but
we don't worry about that.

3. Similar problems with HFS filesystems - a mistake could result in
change content of production filesystems.
4 Whole process is against rule of thumb: production system is for
production, not for development, app. tests, system tests, etc.


Same general comments as above as far as whom you let install
maintenance or install operating systems.   But since root file systems are
mounted read only, that also protects from mistakes. 


So, UNLESS the installation is really performed on production (which I
still strongly doobt), I sustain my opinion. Otherwise I would have very
critical opinion about installation process.


On several sysplexes I support, there is no development environment.  
There are critical and less critical LPARs including mostly TSO LPARs (but
even those have production CICS/DB2/MQ), but production / development
subsystems exist on all those LPARs together.I'm not saying it's ideal,
but it is what it is (I also support environments that do have strictly
production workload in a production plex and development in a development 
plex).   

Again, my problem was with the word never and blanket statements.
Not every shop has a robust sandbox / development environment they 
use for installation of software.   Testing, is another issue.  Of course you 
test your installation in a sandbox / development environment first if you
can.   

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Re: CTC Connectivity

2010-10-27 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:03:54 -0500, Errol Van staden wrote:


I am using a channel with CUs 4020 4030 and 4040 on a shared channel and
5020 5030 and 5040 on another shared channel.
With shared channels, the manual says that if the Unit address on both sides
is 00 and the CUADD is equal to the LPAR number (the three LPAR numbers are
are 2 3 and 4) then they should connect. The CTC connectivity panel shows
no coonection between the 40nn and the 50nns.



Can anyone give me some guidance as to why they dont connect?



Enter a serial number for the CUs (in your case the same serial number for
all 6 CUs).

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/CBDZUG70/6.16.3.3?SHELF=CBDZBKA0DT=20090617174221CASE=
(Point-to-point CTC connections are only recognized if the control units
associated to a specific CTC connection have the same serial number defined.)

Norbert Friemel

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Re: CTC Connectivity

2010-10-27 Thread Martin Packer
Scott Rowe wrote:

 The CTC connectivity report does not work for these types of 
definitions,
 since it has no way of knowing that the two channels are connected to 
 each other.  It has always been this way  for ESCON/FICON CTCs without a
 switch.

A good example of where RMF can't be reliably used to glean configuration. 
But in this case the data it has access to doesn't support that line of 
enquiry. Another, perhaps more trivial, one is the absence of PCHIDs in 
Type 73. (CHPIDs are there but not PCHIDs.)

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Re: FW: COBOL on the Rise?

2010-10-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 27 Oct 2010 09:52:58 -0700, t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) wrote:

Interesting that Erlang and Pascal are both the names of programming
languages, and of units of measure. Are there other languages with the
same naming oddity? Is there e.g. a Newton language?

A Basic measurement?  Hourglass?   Iota? Tiny?

C is a language and a speed.

Have you ever checked out http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/ ?

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Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread August Carideo
Any suggestions from the list for replacements of the below listed products
would be appreciated
am assuming SYNC sort can be replace with IBM DFSORT, or CASORT but trying
to avoid CA products
thanks,
Augie

CA Products
ACF2
CA1
CopyCat
TPX
NetMaster
Intertest
Detector for DB2
Plan Analyzer
Allocate
Vantage
SymDump
XCOM
RC/Update  Extract

ASG Products
ViewDirect

Synsort Products
Syncsort  SRAM

Data Direct Products
SQLINK

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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread Petersen, Jim
CA Products
ACF2RACF
CA1 IBM RMM  or CONTROL-T from BMC
CopyCat unknown
TPX IBM Netview Access Services
NetMaster   IBM Netview
Intertest   COMPUWARE Products and IBM has a suite
Detector for DB2unknown
Plan Analyzer   unknown
Allocateunknown
Vantage unknown
SymDump COMPUWARE Products and IBM has a suite
XCOMunknown
RC/Update  Extract unknown

ASG Products
ViewDirect  I am sure there are some replacements but I 
loved View Direct when it was owned by Mobius.

Synsort Products
Syncsort  SRAM IBM DFSORT

Data Direct Products
SQLINK  Don't know of any

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Any suggestions from the list for replacements of the below listed products
would be appreciated
am assuming SYNC sort can be replace with IBM DFSORT, or CASORT but trying
to avoid CA products
thanks,
Augie

CA Products
ACF2
CA1
CopyCat
TPX
NetMaster
Intertest
Detector for DB2
Plan Analyzer
Allocate
Vantage
SymDump
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RC/Update  Extract

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Data Direct Products
SQLINK

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IRA400E

2010-10-27 Thread Sharon Lopez
Has anyone seen this on your SDM (SYSTEM DATA MOVER) lpars?

IRA400E 04,PAGEABLE STORAGE SHORTAGE   
*IRA404I ANTAS001 ASID 0131 OWNS 386726 PAGES, 326911 
FIXED,
 158567 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA  
*IRA404I ANTAS003 ASID 0140 OWNS 388012 PAGES, 311695 
FIXED,
 114506 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA  
*IRA404I ANTAS004 ASID 013E OWNS 382314 PAGES, 340669 
FIXED,
 114061 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA  
*IRA404I ANTAS002 ASID 0024 OWNS 387917 PAGES, 340053 
FIXED,
 002642 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA  
*IRA404I *MASTER* ASID 0001 OWNS 006377 PAGES, 003666 
FIXED,
 000388 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA  

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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2010-10-27 19:46, August Carideo pisze:

Any suggestions from the list for replacements of the below listed products
would be appreciated
am assuming SYNC sort can be replace with IBM DFSORT, or CASORT but trying
to avoid CA products
thanks,
Augie

CA Products
ACF2 - IBM RACF
CA1 - IBM RMM
CopyCat
TPX - nothing! - assuming you are using PC's, it's quite good alternative.
NetMaster
Intertest AFAIK - Compuware Xpediter
Detector for DB2
Plan Analyzer - BMC product AFAIR
Allocate DFSMS ?
Vantage
SymDump
XCOM
RC/Update  Extract

ASG Products
ViewDirect

Synsort Products
Syncsort  SRAM

Data Direct Products
SQLINK


BTW: it would be helpful for both: us and you if you would attach some 
description about the product's purpose.


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Re: IRA400E

2010-10-27 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Sharon Lopez sharon.lo...@nc.gov wrote:
 Has anyone seen this on your SDM (SYSTEM DATA MOVER) lpars?

 IRA400E 04,PAGEABLE STORAGE SHORTAGE
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2m9a0/17.29?ACTION=MATCHESREQUEST=IRA400ETYPE=FUZZYSHELF=EZ2MZ920.bksDT=20090604031249CASE=searchTopic=TOPICsearchText=TEXTsearchIndex=INDEXrank=RANKScrollTOP=FIRSTHIT#FIRSTHIT
04
Pageable frames between 16 megabytes and 2 gigabytes shortage
(Less than 2GB of real storage frames can be swapped out if needed.)

 *IRA404I ANTAS001 ASID 0131 OWNS 386726 PAGES, 326911
 FIXED,
  158567 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA
 *IRA404I ANTAS003 ASID 0140 OWNS 388012 PAGES, 311695
 FIXED,
  114506 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA
 *IRA404I ANTAS004 ASID 013E OWNS 382314 PAGES, 340669
 FIXED,
  114061 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA
 *IRA404I ANTAS002 ASID 0024 OWNS 387917 PAGES, 340053
 FIXED,
  002642 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA
 *IRA404I *MASTER* ASID 0001 OWNS 006377 PAGES, 003666
 FIXED,
  000388 FIXED IN SHORTAGE AREA

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2m9a0/17.33?ACTION=MATCHESREQUEST=IRA400ETYPE=FUZZYSHELF=EZ2MZ920.bksDT=20090604031249CASE=searchTopic=TOPICsearchText=TEXTsearchIndex=INDEXrank=RANKScrollTOP=FIRSTHIT#FIRSTHIT

Users (or jobs) ANTAS001, ANTAS003, ANTAS004, ANTAS002 was using a
large amount of memory at the time the message was generated.  Review
to see what programs they were running.

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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread Larry Macioce
I would go to the MacKinney site to see what they have as replacement for 
your product.
They have great products/customer service at a fair price.
I am NOT affiliated with them just use thier products

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Re: IRA400E

2010-10-27 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 10/27/2010 1:49:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mike.a.sch...@gmail.com writes:

large amount of memory at the time the message was generated.   Review
to see what programs they were running.


pV=nRT ? Gas law. My guess would be too many Requests, pipe/path  is 
clogged, receiver is bogged down with multiple requests. Tuning  opportunity, 
maybe service...open a  PMR 



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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 10/27/2010 1:49:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mace1...@gmail.com writes:

They have great products/customer service at a fair price.
I am  NOT affiliated with them just use their products



John Anderson runs isvcosts list from  ibm.ca We've found it useful in past 
for comparison and evaluations. No  vendors allowed.





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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread McKown, John
Agreed. I like the products from them which we have.

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 replacement for 
 your product.
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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread Don Bolton
August,

The CopyCat product can be replaced with the OpenTech Systems TapeCOpy
product.  URL listed below.

Don

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Any suggestions from the list for replacements of the below listed products
would be appreciated
am assuming SYNC sort can be replace with IBM DFSORT, or CASORT but trying
to avoid CA products
thanks,
Augie

CA Products
ACF2
CA1
CopyCat - TapeCopy http://www.opentechsystems.com/tape-copy.php
TPX  
NetMaster
Intertest
Detector for DB2
Plan Analyzer
Allocate
Vantage
SymDump
XCOM
RC/Update  Extract

ASG Products
ViewDirect

Synsort Products
Syncsort  SRAM

Data Direct Products
SQLINK

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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread August Carideo
Been looking at responses. also looking at BIM / CSI, and MacKinney
I rem when all McK products for VSE where 99$ listcat+ etc  - no I am not
THAT old just been in DP since was young or is it IT
We are looking at replacements on all platforms here Z/os Z/vm and Z/vse
thanks to those who have responded so far
Augie



   
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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread August Carideo
When Mobius had it they were right down the street from us
thanks again for those who have replied so far I am compiling a list




   
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ACF2RACF
CA1 IBM RMM  or CONTROL-T from BMC
CopyCat unknown
TPX IBM Netview Access Services
NetMaster   IBM Netview
Intertest   COMPUWARE Products and IBM has a suite
Detector for DB2unknown
Plan Analyzer   unknown
Allocateunknown
Vantage unknown
SymDump COMPUWARE Products and IBM has a suite
XCOMunknown
RC/Update  Extract unknown

ASG Products
ViewDirect  I am sure there are some replacements but I
loved View Direct when it was owned by Mobius.

Synsort Products
Syncsort  SRAM IBM DFSORT

Data Direct Products
SQLINK  Don't know of any

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Subject: Product Suggestions

Any suggestions from the list for replacements of the below listed products
would be appreciated
am assuming SYNC sort can be replace with IBM DFSORT, or CASORT but trying
to avoid CA products
thanks,
Augie

CA Products
ACF2
CA1
CopyCat
TPX
NetMaster
Intertest
Detector for DB2
Plan Analyzer
Allocate
Vantage
SymDump
XCOM
RC/Update  Extract

ASG Products
ViewDirect

Synsort Products
Syncsort  SRAM

Data Direct Products
SQLINK

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Re: Product Suggestions

2010-10-27 Thread Kevin Cogley
If you need to replace TPX and NetMaster I would look at Quest Software's 
Multsess and NCI (or the NC suite).  I have not used them for a while but they 
were more than adequate replacements for the CA products.

Kevin Cogley
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On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:46 PM, August Carideo wrote:

 Any suggestions from the list for replacements of the below listed products
 would be appreciated
 am assuming SYNC sort can be replace with IBM DFSORT, or CASORT but trying
 to avoid CA products
 thanks,
 Augie
 
 CA Products
 ACF2
 CA1
 CopyCat
 TPX
 NetMaster
 Intertest
 Detector for DB2
 Plan Analyzer
 Allocate
 Vantage
 SymDump
 XCOM
 RC/Update  Extract
 
 ASG Products
 ViewDirect
 
 Synsort Products
 Syncsort  SRAM
 
 Data Direct Products
 SQLINK
 
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IPCS RSMDATA bug. ???

2010-10-27 Thread Micheal Butz

When I run the following command
RSMDATA DSPACE TOTONLY

I get a report for the dataspaces in my address space however if I run  
the following command


RSMDATA VIRTPAGE DATASPACES.

I get '-' in the DSP NAME. column.  In every line. seems like a  
contridiction


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Re: IRA400E

2010-10-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Users (or jobs) ANTAS001, ANTAS003, ANTAS004, ANTAS002 was using a
large amount of memory at the time the message was generated.
Review to see what programs they were running.

These are part of z/OS.
Along with ANTMAIN.
I forget exactly what they do, but I believe they have something to do with 
supportin the IOS.

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Re: IRA400E

2010-10-27 Thread Mike Schwab
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r10.antg000/sdm.htm
Suggests it is part of eXtended Remote Copy (XRC).  You might look at
I/O rates, a cable might have been cut and I/O stacked up on your
primary.  Do you route your connections via different routes.  A drive
failure might be causing a raid rebuild of the failed disk and slowing
writes.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
Users (or jobs) ANTAS001, ANTAS003, ANTAS004, ANTAS002 was using a
 large amount of memory at the time the message was generated.
Review to see what programs they were running.

 These are part of z/OS.
 Along with ANTMAIN.
 I forget exactly what they do, but I believe they have something to do with 
 supportin the IOS.

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Re: IPCS RSMDATA bug. ???

2010-10-27 Thread Jim Mulder
 When I run the following command
 RSMDATA DSPACE TOTONLY
 
 I get a report for the dataspaces in my address space however if I run 
 the following command
 
 RSMDATA VIRTPAGE DATASPACES.
 
 I get '-' in the DSP NAME. column.  In every line. seems like a 
 contridiction

 The DATASPACES parameter tells the VIRTPAGE report to 
include data space information as well as address space
information.  There is no way to request that address
space information should be excluded from the VIRTPAGE report. 


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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-27 Thread Chase, John
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 Hi John,
 
 I'll try it with Firefox on Linux when I get home tonight.  IBM has
been
 pretty good about coding their web pages to be browser-agnostic.
 
 Did you ever try this URL with Firefox on Linux?

Sorry; thought I had posted:

Yes (later the same day), and it worked fine.  Linux distro is Ubuntu
10.1, Firefox 3.6.10.

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  http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss
 
  ---SNIP-
  I tried again this morning and got through with no issue. Try it
 again
  and see if it now works for you.
 
  Still same problem with Safari 5.0.2  Firefox 3.6.11 on Mac OS X
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Re: IPCS RSMDATA bug. ???

2010-10-27 Thread michealbutz
I don't want to exclude the Address space parameters the RSMDATA DSPACE report 
tells me
that I have over 2 real frames 
Backing up my data space  

So. To get a more detailed picture 

Which Vitual Page of the Dspace is backed by Real

I tried VIRTPAGE DATASPACES  ad I would expect some of those frames to be 
pointing to the
Dataspaces

But none are that impossible ..

 
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Subject: Re: IPCS RSMDATA bug. ???

 When I run the following command
 RSMDATA DSPACE TOTONLY
 
 I get a report for the dataspaces in my address space however if I run 
 the following command
 
 RSMDATA VIRTPAGE DATASPACES.
 
 I get '-' in the DSP NAME. column.  In every line. seems like a 
 contridiction

 The DATASPACES parameter tells the VIRTPAGE report to 
include data space information as well as address space
information.  There is no way to request that address
space information should be excluded from the VIRTPAGE report. 


Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-27 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:27:47 -0400, Knutson, Sam sknut...@geico.com 
wrote:

Even though it is not the default with appropriate testing no one should be 
afraid of setting USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO).
This is going to have a positive impact on performance in select tasks.
 
Sam,

We specifically looked at the performance of USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) as part 
of our Mean Time To Recovery (MTTR) efforts. During our testing, we 
simulated DB2 opening a very large number (100K) of VSAM data sets. 
USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) made a noticeable difference, and that difference was 
proportionately greater as the number of data sets being opened was 
increased. USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) is certainly something that we would 
recommend to anyone who wants to reduce their DB2 start-up time.


W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development
 

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Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-27 Thread Anthony Thompson
z/OS 1.12 has a new ALLOC parameter that is supposed to improve DB2 start-up 
times when it's got zillions of files too:

SYSTEM MEMDSENQMGMT(ENABLE)

This option re-jigs allocation/de-allocation processing to make it more 
efficient when lots of files are allocated.

Ant.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
W. Kevin Kelley
Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 10:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:27:47 -0400, Knutson, Sam sknut...@geico.com 
wrote:

Even though it is not the default with appropriate testing no one should be 
afraid of setting USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO).
This is going to have a positive impact on performance in select tasks.
 
Sam,

We specifically looked at the performance of USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) as part 
of our Mean Time To Recovery (MTTR) efforts. During our testing, we 
simulated DB2 opening a very large number (100K) of VSAM data sets. 
USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) made a noticeable difference, and that difference was 
proportionately greater as the number of data sets being opened was 
increased. USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) is certainly something that we would 
recommend to anyone who wants to reduce their DB2 start-up time.


W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development
 

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Re: VSAM delete without Cluster

2010-10-27 Thread Ed. Benoit
Thanks to all for the replies.  Special to thanks to Radoslaw.   Your 
solution work great.
 
Ed.

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