Re: ShopzSeries

2010-11-11 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 11/10/2010 7:49 AM, Mark Zelden wrote:

Same here except for new OS ServerPacs.   I guess as a vendor you may
get early ship via another method??


Right. We don't currently order z/OS via ShopzSeries. But, many ISVs do...

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Re: Terminate LE enclave and proceed

2010-11-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I cannot be too specific, but program AAA calls program BBB (COBOL LE
reentrant) which calls program CCC, and program CCC wishes to return directly
to AAA. CCC can back up one more savearea and return to AAA, but as far as LE
is concerned BBB is still active and should AAA reinvoke BBB LE complains that
BBB is still active.

What need AAA do to allow this? It would be quite difficult to change BBB.


On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:43:23 -0600 Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com
wrote:

:On 11/1/2010 7:22 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
: I have an assembler (non-LE) program which calls a LE main-routine which
: creates an LE environment. It does not remove the LE enclave at termination
: (don't ask why).

:Yeah, but, how can we understand the environment you have?

: When the assembler routine gets back control it wishes to
: remove the enclave. There are the CEETREC and CEETREN routines, but they are
: documented as not returning control.

: I tried a call anchor set with zero, but that did not help. And if it did, I
: would lose storage.

: What is the proper approach, if any?

:This is very strange. The proper approach is for the
:LE main to remove the enclave. Can you give us more
:information?

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Progress Indicator For AMATERSE?

2010-11-11 Thread Martin Packer
When I receive data from a customer I pull it using FTP - and I get a line 
in the SYSOUT every so often, as well as an early file size line to 
compare against. My next step is to unterse it. I think it would be useful 
to have a similar progress indicator.

Do others agree? Or is this a very minor nice to have? (My thinking is a 
progress indicator for terse WOULD be useful to customers.)

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Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

2010-11-11 Thread John McKown
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:59 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote:
 John,
You could also try 'copytree'
 
 Roger
 

True. I keep forgetting about that because I don't think it is a
standard command that comes with z/OS. Don't you need to download and
install it? I, personally, prefer to use pax. It is a bit more
complicated, but it is standard. Each to his own, of course.

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CA-ESP and Report Writer

2010-11-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Does anyone that has CA-ESP (V5.5) installed and running have some guidance
to the Report Writer?  I find that function to be lacking big time.

I am currently working on a SAS to DB2 table to allow my users a little more
flexibility when using the reporting function.  However, if someone has
already gone through this process using SAS or REXX or other to build the
DB2 load process, and would like to chat with me, I would appreciate it.

We will not be going to CA-ESP 11.3 until 2011 and so that version of the
report writer is not available.

Lizette

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Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

2010-11-11 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
One comment on the 'pax' command. If you use '-XCM' the pax will be limited to 
copying the files in a single zfs (just in case you have other zfses mounted on 
sub-directories in the /etc/ directory). You would most likely not want to copy 
those files since they reside in a separate physical zfs.

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Subject: Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:07 -0800, John Norgauer wrote:
 Hi John,
 
 Thanks for the response. I guess I should have given you more info.
 
 I have mounted on my z/OS 1.11 system, my z/OS 1.9 etc file system. 
 With this in mind, how would I do this copy function?
 
 Thanks. 

 John Norgauer

Most likely, I'd just use cp to copy the files that I needed to copy.
If I wanted to copy __all__ of them, I'd use pax. In either case, I'd be in a 
UNIX shell from TSO OMVS or ssh or telnet. Most likely TSO OMVS.

In the following, assume that you are on the 1.11 system. The /etc from the 1.9 
system is mounted on is in the root and the 1.9 root is mounted on 
/oldroot. So the 1.9 system's /etc would map to /oldroot/etc . I also assume 
you can su to root.

su - #change to root user
cd /oldroot/etc
pax -rw -v -pe ssh /etc
exit #from root
exit #from UNIX shell

Now, if you want, you could also use plain TSO/ISPF and ISHELL. On the first 
screen of ISHELL, on the upper right is Setup. Place the cursor within the 
word and press enter. You'll get an ISPF dialog box with a bunch of options. 
Option 7 is Enable superuser mode(SU). Type in 7 and press enter. Your TSO 
session is now running as a super user. On the bottom left, you should now see 
EUID=0. On the left in the middle, you can put in a UNIX path. Put in the 
path to the 1.9 ssh subdirectory:

/oldroot/etc/ssh

You now have a list of files that look a bit like what you see in option 3.4. 
For each file that you want to copy, one at a time, put a c in front of it 
and press ENTER. You'll get an ISPF dialog box. Use 1 for a File... copy 
and press ENTER. This brings up another ISPF dialog box where the destination 
is the same as the source. Remove the leading /oldroot so that you'd see 
something like:

/etc/ssh/the.name.of.the.file.to.copy

Press ENTER. Rinse, repeat as necessary.

When you're finished, go back to the ISHELL main screen. Put the cursor on 
Setup again. Press ENTER. Select option 7 again to return to your normal UID in 
TSO.




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Freeing CPOOL cells backed by dataspace

2010-11-11 Thread Micheal Butz

Hi

Since a Cell pool backed by a dataspace does not really free the  
storage.  Doing a DSPSERV RELEASE does that and since the block size  
which is in units of 4096 probably doesn't match the CPOOL

Size what is the best way of releasing CPOOL storage

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Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

2010-11-11 Thread McKown, John
Very good point! I don't have anything mounted under /etc and so totally forgot 
to mention those options. I really prefer pax, but it is complicated in all 
that it can do and all the parms it can take.

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 Subject: Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc
 
 One comment on the 'pax' command. If you use '-XCM' the pax 
 will be limited to copying the files in a single zfs (just in 
 case you have other zfses mounted on sub-directories in the 
 /etc/ directory). You would most likely not want to copy 
 those files since they reside in a separate physical zfs.
 
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 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown
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 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc
 
 On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:07 -0800, John Norgauer wrote:
  Hi John,
  
  Thanks for the response. I guess I should have given you more info.
  
  I have mounted on my z/OS 1.11 system, my z/OS 1.9 etc file system. 
  With this in mind, how would I do this copy function?
  
  Thanks. 
 
  John Norgauer
 
 Most likely, I'd just use cp to copy the files that I 
 needed to copy.
 If I wanted to copy __all__ of them, I'd use pax. In either 
 case, I'd be in a UNIX shell from TSO OMVS or ssh or telnet. 
 Most likely TSO OMVS.
 
 In the following, assume that you are on the 1.11 system. The 
 /etc from the 1.9 system is mounted on is in the root and 
 the 1.9 root is mounted on /oldroot. So the 1.9 system's 
 /etc would map to /oldroot/etc . I also assume you can su to root.
 
 su - #change to root user
 cd /oldroot/etc
 pax -rw -v -pe ssh /etc
 exit #from root
 exit #from UNIX shell
 
 Now, if you want, you could also use plain TSO/ISPF and 
 ISHELL. On the first screen of ISHELL, on the upper right is 
 Setup. Place the cursor within the word and press enter. 
 You'll get an ISPF dialog box with a bunch of options. Option 
 7 is Enable superuser mode(SU). Type in 7 and press enter. 
 Your TSO session is now running as a super user. On the 
 bottom left, you should now see EUID=0. On the left in the 
 middle, you can put in a UNIX path. Put in the path to the 
 1.9 ssh subdirectory:
 
 /oldroot/etc/ssh
 
 You now have a list of files that look a bit like what you 
 see in option 3.4. For each file that you want to copy, one 
 at a time, put a c in front of it and press ENTER. You'll 
 get an ISPF dialog box. Use 1 for a File... copy and 
 press ENTER. This brings up another ISPF dialog box where the 
 destination is the same as the source. Remove the leading 
 /oldroot so that you'd see something like:
 
 /etc/ssh/the.name.of.the.file.to.copy
 
 Press ENTER. Rinse, repeat as necessary.
 
 When you're finished, go back to the ISHELL main screen. Put 
 the cursor on Setup again. Press ENTER. Select option 7 again 
 to return to your normal UID in TSO.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Terminate LE enclave and proceed

2010-11-11 Thread Steve Comstock

On 11/11/2010 5:22 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:

I cannot be too specific, but program AAA calls program BBB (COBOL LE
reentrant) which calls program CCC, and program CCC wishes to return directly
to AAA. CCC can back up one more savearea and return to AAA, but as far as LE
is concerned BBB is still active and should AAA reinvoke BBB LE complains that
BBB is still active.

What need AAA do to allow this? It would be quite difficult to change BBB.


The only approach I can see is to make AAA an LE-conforming program;

  then from AAA register a condition handler to handle a user condition;

  then, from CCC raise (CEESGL) the user condition;

  In the user condition handler, call CEEMRCR to back up one level in
 call hierarchy then return with a response token of 10

This approach might also have some positive side effects (improved
performance, if you do lots of calls to BBB).





On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:43:23 -0600 Steve Comstockst...@trainersfriend.com
wrote:

:On 11/1/2010 7:22 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
:  I have an assembler (non-LE) program which calls a LE main-routine which
:  creates an LE environment. It does not remove the LE enclave at termination
:  (don't ask why).

:Yeah, but, how can we understand the environment you have?

:  When the assembler routine gets back control it wishes to
:  remove the enclave. There are the CEETREC and CEETREN routines, but they 
are
:  documented as not returning control.

:  I tried a call anchor set with zero, but that did not help. And if it did, 
I
:  would lose storage.

:  What is the proper approach, if any?

:This is very strange. The proper approach is for the
:LE main to remove the enclave. Can you give us more
:information?

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Re: Freeing CPOOL cells backed by dataspace

2010-11-11 Thread Rob Scott
The way to achieve this is by careful management of the extents in the callable 
cell pool services and ensuring that each extent starts and ends on a page 
boundary.

You are only going to be able to DSPSERV RELEASE when you are positive that all 
cells in the extent have been returned and you have performed the CSRPDAC and 
CSRPDIS.

One way of achieving this is to maintain your own queue of available+inuse 
cells that include the extent number that the cell came from. You then pre-get 
all cells from the extent and add to your available queue. When callers need 
a new cell, you just pop the fella from the top of the queue (rather than use 
CSRPGET each time). 

Once your program decides it wants to release and extent, you have to mark that 
extent unavailable to your cell get routine so that you can effectively drain 
the extent over time (this might take a *long* time) . Periodically you have to 
scan the queues to make sure that there are no active cells from the extent 
before you can proceed with actually releasing it.
 
 

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Subject: Freeing CPOOL cells backed by dataspace

Hi

Since a Cell pool backed by a dataspace does not really free the  
storage.  Doing a DSPSERV RELEASE does that and since the block size  
which is in units of 4096 probably doesn't match the CPOOL
Size what is the best way of releasing CPOOL storage

Thankx

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Re: Termin ate LE enc lave and p roceed‏

2010-11-11 Thread john gilmore
It is not traditional to do so, but COBOL programs may now be reentered while 
still active if they are given the recursive attribute using a RECURSIVE 
clause.  Recursive COBOL routines are denied the use of nested, internal 
procedures; but this is the only significant restriction on their content.
 
Remember, however, that a new generation of local/automatic storage is 
allocated each time a recursive rputine is entered, with working storage 
remainiong in its last-time-stowed-into state.   

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IEF086I ERROR IN SWA RECOVERY-RESTART CANCELLED. REASON CODE = 6

2010-11-11 Thread Rajender Vemula
Good Day All,

One of my batch job it was in Hold status in control-m for more than five 
hours. When operator  released the job after 5 hours, The job ended  with 
below message

IEF086I ERROR IN SWA RECOVERY-RESTART CANCELLED. REASON CODE =  6. 
Verified in Quick reference and found for  REASON CODE =  6

as below 
Not all SVAs were matched.Is it something related to Control-M  ?. 

Is it common error ?  Please let us know your thoughts and also on SVA .

My system running under z/OS vir9.

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Re: Terminate LE enclave and proceed

2010-11-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
That looks like a quite workable idea. Thanks.

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:35:10 -0700 Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com
wrote:

:On 11/11/2010 5:22 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
: I cannot be too specific, but program AAA calls program BBB (COBOL LE
: reentrant) which calls program CCC, and program CCC wishes to return 
directly
: to AAA. CCC can back up one more savearea and return to AAA, but as far as 
LE
: is concerned BBB is still active and should AAA reinvoke BBB LE complains 
that
: BBB is still active.
:
: What need AAA do to allow this? It would be quite difficult to change BBB.
:
:The only approach I can see is to make AAA an LE-conforming program;
:
:   then from AAA register a condition handler to handle a user condition;
:
:   then, from CCC raise (CEESGL) the user condition;
:
:   In the user condition handler, call CEEMRCR to back up one level in
:  call hierarchy then return with a response token of 10
:
:This approach might also have some positive side effects (improved
:performance, if you do lots of calls to BBB).
:
:
:
:
: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:43:23 -0600 Steve Comstockst...@trainersfriend.com
: wrote:
:
: :On 11/1/2010 7:22 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
: :  I have an assembler (non-LE) program which calls a LE main-routine 
which
: :  creates an LE environment. It does not remove the LE enclave at 
termination
: :  (don't ask why).
:
: :Yeah, but, how can we understand the environment you have?
:
: :  When the assembler routine gets back control it wishes to
: :  remove the enclave. There are the CEETREC and CEETREN routines, but 
they are
: :  documented as not returning control.
:
: :  I tried a call anchor set with zero, but that did not help. And if it 
did, I
: :  would lose storage.
:
: :  What is the proper approach, if any?
:
: :This is very strange. The proper approach is for the
: :LE main to remove the enclave. Can you give us more
: :information?
:
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: http://www.dissensoftware.com
:
: Director, Dissen Software, Bar  Grill - Israel
:
:
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: I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
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Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:29:04 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote:

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:59 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote:
 John,
You could also try 'copytree'

 Roger


True. I keep forgetting about that because I don't think it is a
standard command that comes with z/OS. Don't you need to download and
install it? 

At one time it was only on the unix tools and toys page, but it has been
distributed in the /samples directory for a long time (since z/OS 1.3 IIRC).

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Re: Progress Indicator For AMATERSE?

2010-11-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 November 2010 07:28, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com wrote:
 When I receive data from a customer I pull it using FTP - and I get a line
 in the SYSOUT every so often, as well as an early file size line to
 compare against. My next step is to unterse it. I think it would be useful
 to have a similar progress indicator.

 Do others agree? Or is this a very minor nice to have? (My thinking is a
 progress indicator for terse WOULD be useful to customers.)

There are many enhancements to AMATERSE that would be useful, but I
must say I hadn't thought of this one. The problem, I think, is that
the terse header contains no indication of the original size, and it's
not obvious what a progress indicator would be telling you. Presumably
how far it's read through the compressed data, but the level of
compression can vary depending on the homogeneity of the original
data, and so if you are, say, half way through the compressed portion,
you may be almost anywhere as far as time to completion goes.

In Real Life though, your data is probably fairly uniform, and so
progress through the compressed data is going to give a fair
indication.

Tony H.

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Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-11 Thread John Dawes
I verified the DATACLAS construct.  The volume count is 20.  I am unable to 
confirm if the LISTCAT has a EXT-ADDR because the dsn has been deleted.  Sorry, 
I should have noted it before I made the post.  Going by to my observation in 
general, would coding the VOLSERS in the VOL field cause the abend because the 
DATACLASS has the volume count of 20 and there were 56 volumes in this 
particular STORAGE GROUP POOL?

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Subject: Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
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Looking at the 110 Reason code information, I question if your dataset was 
actually assign a dataclass allowing extended format.   The way I 
understand the 110, you exceeded the 4GB limit on 'standard' VSAM. You'll 
need to look at the SMS constructs actually being used for your dataset 
here.  You're not giving us enough information here for us to tell.

Take a close look at the ListCat information for the file which was 
defined  ensure that it actually was defined as extended format.  If it 
is, you should see EXTENDED     EXT-ADDR  in the ListCat

dd keller



G'Day,

I encountered the following abend when attempting to define a VSAM 
extended dsn.  The SMS routines (STORAGE CLASS, STORAGE GROUP  
DATACLASS) have been correctly defined.  I verified if the volumes(3390-3) 
were empty and all seem okay.

IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP
RETURN CODE IS 140 REASON CODE IS 110 IGG0CLEV
IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEV PROCESSING
RETURN CODE 140 REASON CODE 110

Below is the DEFINE CLUSTER:
DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP) -
             INDEXED KEYS(64,0) -
             SHR(2,3) -
             REUSE -
             RECORDSIZE (64,4068) -
             FREESPACE(15,20) -
             VOLUME(A24S11,A24S12,A24S13,A24S14,A24S17,A24S19)) -
             DATA -
             (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.DATA) -
             CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (16384) -
             CYLINDERS (3815,36)) -
             INDEX -
             (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.INDEX) -
             CYLINDERS (97,4) -
             CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (4096))
I reran the job successfully after removing all the VOLSERS except for 
A24S11.  Was it a fluke that it worked? Was the cause of the abend due to 
having 6 VOLSERS coded in the VOLUME parm?
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Re: 8 character dataset nodes

2010-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201011090611343043.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/09/2010
   at 06:11 AM, David McCrina david.mccr...@infor.com said:

The discussion about the 7 character TSO ID limitation brings up
something else I have wondered about.   Why are TSO dataset nodes
limited to 8 characters?

It's not a TSO restriction, it's an MVS restriction, and it goes back
to the original CVOL design.
 
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Re: 8 character dataset nodes

2010-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In fdab2c05b8c74fe7852c126db9533...@ukrmobile, on 11/09/2010
   at 09:01 AM, Ulrich Krueger u...@pacbell.net said:

There doesn't appear to be a way to easily get around the 8 character
dataset name (HLQ or node) limitation. It's a design scheme built
into the heart of MVS that we all have to live with.

CVOL is dead. Locating all of the code that checks for 8 character
nodes might be a lot of work, but I'm not aware of anything else that
would have to be changed to remove the restriction.
 
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Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-11 Thread Darth Keller
From:   John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:   11/11/2010 11:26 AM
Subject:Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
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Sorry, I'm at DR today - so I don't have the time or the manuals to look, 
but my thinking is that under certain circumstances  SMS attributes, 
multiple volumes could cause an allocation to be greater than 4GB's.  I 
really suspect that your dataset was being allocated as a standard VSAM 
dataset subject to the 4GB limit.   I'd re-allocate the dataset  take a 
look at the allocation messages  attributes assigned to it.


/

I verified the DATACLAS construct.  The volume count is 20.  I am unable 
to confirm if the LISTCAT has a EXT-ADDR because the dsn has been 
deleted.  Sorry, I should have noted it before I made the post.  Going by 
to my observation in general, would coding the VOLSERS in the VOL field 
cause the abend because the DATACLASS has the volume count of 20 and there 
were 56 volumes in this particular STORAGE GROUP POOL?





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Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-11 Thread John H Kington
John,
You should run the define again and then look at the listcat output to look for 
the extended attribute that Darth asked about. You don't need to load data to 
get this information. I am not in a postion to experiment but you should have 
20 volumes (actual plus candidate) in the listcat output. You get the greater 
of volume count from the data class or the number of volumes in the define, not 
the sum of those two numbers.

Regards,
John

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Subject: Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

I verified the DATACLAS construct.  The volume count is 20.  I am unable to 
confirm if the LISTCAT has a EXT-ADDR because the dsn has been deleted.  Sorry, 
I should have noted it before I made the post.  Going by to my observation in 
general, would coding the VOLSERS in the VOL field cause the abend because the 
DATACLASS has the volume count of 20 and there were 56 volumes in this 
particular STORAGE GROUP POOL?

--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com wrote:


From: Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com
Subject: Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Thursday, 11 November, 2010, 7:52 AM


Looking at the 110 Reason code information, I question if your dataset was
actually assign a dataclass allowing extended format.   The way I
understand the 110, you exceeded the 4GB limit on 'standard' VSAM. You'll
need to look at the SMS constructs actually being used for your dataset
here.  You're not giving us enough information here for us to tell.

Take a close look at the ListCat information for the file which was
defined  ensure that it actually was defined as extended format.  If it
is, you should see EXTENDED EXT-ADDR  in the ListCat

dd keller



G'Day,

I encountered the following abend when attempting to define a VSAM
extended dsn.  The SMS routines (STORAGE CLASS, STORAGE GROUP 
DATACLASS) have been correctly defined.  I verified if the volumes(3390-3)
were empty and all seem okay.

IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP
RETURN CODE IS 140 REASON CODE IS 110 IGG0CLEV
IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEV PROCESSING
RETURN CODE 140 REASON CODE 110

Below is the DEFINE CLUSTER:
DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP) -
 INDEXED KEYS(64,0) -
 SHR(2,3) -
 REUSE -
 RECORDSIZE (64,4068) -
 FREESPACE(15,20) -
 VOLUME(A24S11,A24S12,A24S13,A24S14,A24S17,A24S19)) -
 DATA -
 (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.DATA) -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (16384) -
 CYLINDERS (3815,36)) -
 INDEX -
 (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.INDEX) -
 CYLINDERS (97,4) -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (4096))
I reran the job successfully after removing all the VOLSERS except for
A24S11.  Was it a fluke that it worked? Was the cause of the abend due to
having 6 VOLSERS coded in the VOLUME parm?
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Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
You can trawl SMF to see what attributes were assigned.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of
 John Dawes
 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:25 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA
SET
 
 I verified the DATACLAS construct.  The volume count is 20.  I am unable
to
 confirm if the LISTCAT has a EXT-ADDR because the dsn has been deleted.
 Sorry, I should have noted it before I made the post.  Going by to my
 observation in general, would coding the VOLSERS in the VOL field cause
the
 abend because the DATACLASS has the volume count of 20 and there were 56
 volumes in this particular STORAGE GROUP POOL?
 
 --- On Thu, 11/11/10, Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com
 Subject: Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Received: Thursday, 11 November, 2010, 7:52 AM
 
 
 Looking at the 110 Reason code information, I question if your dataset was
 actually assign a dataclass allowing extended format.   The way I
 understand the 110, you exceeded the 4GB limit on 'standard' VSAM. You'll
 need to look at the SMS constructs actually being used for your dataset
 here.  You're not giving us enough information here for us to tell.
 
 Take a close look at the ListCat information for the file which was
 defined  ensure that it actually was defined as extended format.  If it
 is, you should see EXTENDED     EXT-ADDR  in the ListCat
 
 dd keller
 
 
 
 G'Day,
 
 I encountered the following abend when attempting to define a VSAM
 extended dsn.  The SMS routines (STORAGE CLASS, STORAGE GROUP 
 DATACLASS) have been correctly defined.  I verified if the volumes(3390-3)
 were empty and all seem okay.
 
 IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
 VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP
 RETURN CODE IS 140 REASON CODE IS 110 IGG0CLEV
 IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEV PROCESSING
 RETURN CODE 140 REASON CODE 110
 
 Below is the DEFINE CLUSTER:
 DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP) -
              INDEXED KEYS(64,0) -
              SHR(2,3) -
              REUSE -
              RECORDSIZE (64,4068) -
              FREESPACE(15,20) -
              VOLUME(A24S11,A24S12,A24S13,A24S14,A24S17,A24S19)) -
              DATA -
              (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.DATA) -
              CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (16384) -
              CYLINDERS (3815,36)) -
              INDEX -
              (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.INDEX) -
              CYLINDERS (97,4) -
              CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (4096))
 I reran the job successfully after removing all the VOLSERS except for
 A24S11.  Was it a fluke that it worked? Was the cause of the abend due to
 having 6 VOLSERS coded in the VOLUME parm?
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how to dump or browse sysplex structures?

2010-11-11 Thread Dr. Stephen Fedtke
hi all, 

thanks for your last reply. i tried to follow the recommendation of lowering
the amount of data.

how can i limit the amount of data dumped from a structure? i tried the
following unsuccessfully:


1) dump with 

/6025,STRLIST=(STRNAME=CIC_DFHLOG_P1A,(LISTNUM=(1-2),ENTRYDATA=UNSERIALIZE) 


2) syslog includes:

000281  IEF196I IGD104I xxx RETAINED,
000281  IEF196I DDNAME=SYS00027   
90  IEA611I PARTIAL DUMP ON x
055   
90  DUMPID=025 REQUESTED BY JOB (*MASTER*)
90  FOR ASID (0001)   
90  INCIDENT TOKEN: yyyPLEX   11/10/2010 14:09:26 
90  SDRSN =    0004   
90  SOME STORAGE COULD NOT BE DUMPED RC=16



3) my IPCS output:

 BLS18124I TITLE=66 
 BLS18223I Dump written by z/OS 01.10.00 SVC dump - level same as IPCS level
 BLS18222I z/Architecture mode system   
 BLS18160D May summary dump data be used by dump access?  Enter Y to use, N to b
ypass.  
N   
 BLS18123I 140,042 blocks, 582,574,720 bytes, in DSNAME('xx')

 IKJ56650I TIME-03:13:42 PM. CPU-00:00:13 SERVICE-665630 SESSION-06:43:04 NOVEMB
ER 10,2010  
 BLS18104I Symbol IARHVSHR not found
 BLS18104I Symbol IARHVCOM not found
 BLS18224I Dump of z/OS 01.10.00 - level same as IPCS level 
   *  STRDATA ALL STRUCTURES SUMMARY REPORT  *  


 Structure Name... CIC_DFHLOG_xxx   
 Structure Type... List 
 Structure Dump ID 4201 
 Coupling Facility 002094.IBM.xx.000xx

Partition. 2F   
CPCID. 00   
 CFLevel.. 15   
 Facility Name x
 Dump Status.. Not in the dump  
 Dump Status Reason: Structure user set access time to zero 



4) info 01:

OUPLING FACILITY SPACE UTILIZATION
ALLOCATED SPACE  DUMP SPACE UTILIZATION   
 STRUCTURES:12596736 KSTRUCTURE DUMP TABLES:  0 K 
 DUMP SPACE:   64000 K  TABLE COUNT:  0   
FREE SPACE: 20145152 K   FREE DUMP SPACE: 64000 K 
OTAL SPACE: 32805888 K  TOTAL DUMP SPACE: 64000 K 
   MAX REQUESTED DUMP SPACE:512 K 
  VOLATILE:   YESSTORAGE INCREMENT SIZE:512 K 
   CFLEVEL:15 


5) info 02:

D XCF,STR,STRNAME=CIC_DFHLOG_P1A 
IXC360I  16.46.39  DISPLAY XCF 782   
STRNAME: CIC_DFHLOG_P1A  
 STATUS: ALLOCATED   
 EVENT MANAGEMENT: POLICY-BASED  
 TYPE: LIST  
 POLICY INFORMATION: 
  POLICY SIZE: 98304 K   
  POLICY INITSIZE: 79872 K   
  POLICY MINSIZE : 0 K   
  FULLTHRESHOLD  : 85
  ALLOWAUTOALT   : NO
  REBUILD PERCENT: 1 
  DUPLEX : DISABLED  
  ALLOWREALLOCATE: YES   
  PREFERENCE LIST: xxx yyy
  ENFORCEORDER   : NO
  EXCLUSION LIST IS EMPTY
 
 ACTIVE STRUCTURE
   

does an UCB include any info on how many systems the given device is online?

2010-11-11 Thread Dr. Stephen Fedtke
hi all, 

if a particular DASD device is online on several LPARs of a sysplex. does
the UCB or any other control block include a counter on the number of LPARs
the particular is currently online?

many thanks for any tipp!

best
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Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201011051531014300.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/05/2010
   at 03:31 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

Even subject to an 8 or 7 character limitation on user names it would
be valuable to have a longer PREFIX. 

I submitted such a requirement decades ago. Maybe it's time for
someone else to try.
 
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Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 201011061422.59279.ibm...@woodsway.com, on 11/06/2010
   at 02:23 PM, Bob Woodside ibm...@woodsway.com said:

On Friday 05 November 2010 16:46, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: 
In b351325f7e2c494a8783b83dbf3d5390145996d...@hdxmspa.us.lmco.com,
 on 11/05/2010

at 09:46 AM, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG) dennis.ro...@lmco.com said:

 Try the TSO EDIT command from ready some time.

 I have.

 Make you like vi.

 No.

Yes.

No. I like TSO EDIT and don't like vi, so your claim is demonstrably
false. I'm willing to conceed that you may like vi.
 
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Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1e60a9b549a90840947ceda0609404c76eb...@embx-cham4.cdc.gov, on
11/05/2010
   at 09:08 PM, Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
z...@cdc.gov said:

You cannot run a batch job with the same name unless you logoff and
back on to allow the 8 character batch job to run. 

Yes you can.

Thus, the 7 character userid allows an extra character for batch job
submission. 

That's only relevant if you want SUBMIT to generate the job name or if
you want to track your submitted jobs with STATUS.
 
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Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktim-wtqsb0db_mgzg__fvz7dyh+mh7pjchjo7...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/05/2010
   at 02:51 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:

Notably, OS/VS1 had an RJE facility run by its JES

RES came along well after TSO, so it made sense to pirate some of the
TSO code.

the DEST keyword of TSO's ALLOCATE

Intended to route SYSOUT to another TSO user.

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Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In p06240808c8faa08b3...@[192.168.1.11], on 11/06/2010
   at 02:13 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said:

I beg to differ. Originally there was SPF with an optional product 
called PDF which ran under it.

Are you a betting man?

You could get only SPF or both.

No; the name had changed to ISPF well before PDF was split off. As I
recall that was at the same time that the expansion of ISPF was
changed.

 5740-XT2, TSO - 3270 Structured Programming Facility (SPF)
 
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Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201011051632024888.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/05/2010
   at 04:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

Yaaay!  They could even assimilate much code from an x3270-type
utility; even preserve the ISPF look-and-feel for those who like it.

The ESA GUI is an interface to ISPF; it has an ISPF look and feel
because the panels are the same ISPF panels that are used on a 3270.

Didn't IBM have one of its own, that ran on a PC?

If you're thinking of EZVU, that was a very limited subset, not in the
same league as Tritus SPF or even CTC.

(Perhaps still does, if you have a PC old enough.)

I've carried TSPF forward from my old PC; you can have it when they
pry it from my cold dead fingers.
 
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Nov. 17 Webcast - Intro to the new Linux on System z Terminal Server Using IUCV 9:00 AM EDT or 2:00 PM EDT

2010-11-11 Thread Pamela Christina on a blue-sky day in Endicott
Cross-posted to IBMVM, LINUX390, and IBMMAIN for
the Linux on the mainframe enthusiasts

The next LVC / IBM Linux WebCast is scheduled for Wed. Nov. 17

Register to listen
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   Date:Wednesday, November 17, 2010

   Times:   Choice of two live calls: 9:00AM or 2:00PM EDT
(A replay is planned to be available a few days after the live call.)

   Title: Intro to the new Linux on System z Terminal Server Using IUCV

 Speaker:   Hendrik Brückner, IBM Boeblingen Programming Laboratory

Duration:  75 minutes

Abstract:   
  How often did you reconfigure your network setup using a line-mode
  terminal? Can you use ed to change and correct your configuration
  files? Why not using your favorite full screen editor?

  IBM introduced a new full-screen terminal access to Linux instances on
  the same z/VM system, using the Inter-User Communications Vehicle
  (IUCV). This feature is part the latest Enterprise Distributions for
  System z and provides an alternative terminal access to 3270 and 3215
  line-mode terminals, especially for the Linux system administrator
  with basic z/VM skills only.

  Another use case is the system administration in a tight security
  environment, where sensitive Linux instances are isolated from the
  local IP networks. In this webcast you will learn how to set up a
  Linux instance as a terminal server for a virtual Linux server
  farm on z/VM.



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SFTP

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Steely
I would like to be able to specify STDIN on my SFTP batch job. The man pages 
has the following information:

-b batchfile Batch mode reads a series of commands from an input batchfile
  instead of stdin. Because it lacks user interaction, use it in
  conjunction with noninteractive authentication. A batchfile of
  '-' can be used to indicate standard input.

Here is what I tried:

//SFTP2EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
// PARM=('sh sftp -vvv -b --
// prod...@.corp.com')
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//STDOUT  DD SYSOUT=*
//STDERR  DD SYSOUT=*
//STDIN   DD *
pwd
ls
ascii
lpwd
lcd /tmp
lpwd
!cp //'XX.SSPS.CSSMTP.TEST' test2.txt
put test2.txt
!rm test2.txt
//

Sftp

That  was the response in STDOUT.

I would like STDIN to point to a dataset. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: SFTP

2010-11-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
Mark,

BPXBATCH does not allow you to use DD:STDIN with an MVS dataset (only Unix
files).

You can, however, use the free Co:Z Toolkit which has:
- a replacement for BPXBATCH that works correctly
- a replacement for IBM sftp that supports z/OS datasets, among other z/OS
extensions.

Using this with your example would look something like:

// EXEC PGM=COZBATCH,
//  PARM='/dest=prod...@.corp.com'
//STDIN   DD *
cozsftp -b- $DEST EOB
lzopts mode=text,servercp=ISO8859-1
put //XX.SSPS.CSSMTP.TEST test2.txt
EOB
//

or even more JCL friendly:

// SET DEST='prod...@.corp.com'
// SET RFILE='test2.txt'
// EXEC PGM=COZBATCH,
//  PARM='/DEST=DEST RFILE=RFILE'
//STDIN   DD *
cozsftp -b- $DEST EOB
lzopts mode=text,servercp=ISO8859-1
put //DD:INPUT $RFILE
EOB
//INPUT DD DISP=SHR,DSN=XX.SSPS.CSSMTP.TEST
//

Kirk Wolf
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Mark Steely mark.ste...@wnco.com wrote:

 I would like to be able to specify STDIN on my SFTP batch job. The man
 pages has the following information:

 -b batchfile Batch mode reads a series of commands from an input batchfile
  instead of stdin. Because it lacks user interaction, use it in
  conjunction with noninteractive authentication. A batchfile of
  '-' can be used to indicate standard input.

 Here is what I tried:

 //SFTP2EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
 // PARM=('sh sftp -vvv -b --
 // prod...@.corp.com')
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //STDOUT  DD SYSOUT=*
 //STDERR  DD SYSOUT=*
 //STDIN   DD *
 pwd
 ls
 ascii
 lpwd
 lcd /tmp
 lpwd
 !cp //'XX.SSPS.CSSMTP.TEST' test2.txt
 put test2.txt
 !rm test2.txt
 //

 Sftp

 That  was the response in STDOUT.

 I would like STDIN to point to a dataset. Any help would be appreciated.

 Thank You


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Re: does an UCB include any info on how many systems the given device is online?

2010-11-11 Thread Mike Schwab
I don't think so.  I run a DCOLLECT on all my systems then assign a
column / value from the system id and print out various stats about
the volume.  It does assume the same UCB on all systems.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Dr. Stephen Fedtke
max_mainframe_...@fedtke.com wrote:
 hi all,

 if a particular DASD device is online on several LPARs of a sysplex. does
 the UCB or any other control block include a counter on the number of LPARs
 the particular is currently online?

 many thanks for any tipp!

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Re: File Permissions Question

2010-11-11 Thread Leonard Sasso
The following worked great:

lcd /local/zos/directory/for/file
get remote.file
!chmod 644 remote.file


Thank You !

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Subject:
Re: File Permissions Question



Do the chmod in the GET job in a separate UNIX step after the sftp step.

another possibility in the sftp step itself is to use the lumask 
command. I can't test this, so I can't guarantee it works.

lumask 022
get remote.file

Or perhaps:

lcd /local/zos/directory/for/file
get remote.file
!chmod 644 remote.file

The ! executes the chmod 644 remote.file in a local shell on the z/OS 
system. Without the !, the chmod is sent to the remote system.

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 It is trying to change permissions on the file at the 
 external site, not 
 the HFS system
 
 sftp chmod 644 RosterException_20101105.txt 
 Changing mode on 
 /C:/caqhroot/TestFTP/Outgoing/RosterException_20101105.txt
 
 
 Thank You.
 
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 Date:
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 Subject:
 Re: File Permissions Question
 
 
 
 Try: 
 
 cd /u/emedtest/nfstst/fsit/prov/caqh/20101105
 chmod 644 RosterException_20101105.txt 
 
 
 
 
 
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 I want to use the chmod command but the length of the 
 filename and and 
 path is too long. 
 
 chmod 644 
 /u/emedtest/nfstst/fsit/prov/caqh/20101105/RosterException_201
 01105.txt 
 
 
 What is the continuation character for the chmod command ? 
 
 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a replacement for SAR or CA-View Spool?

2010-11-11 Thread Kirk Talman
We also use JHS to good effect on all plexes.  Very easy to use.  It 
shares code w/Xptr.

 From: David Magee david.ma...@dillards.com
 
 We've used JHS from Systemware (for Job logs and System logs) since way 
back
 in the 80's. Recent data is maintained on-line for browsing and 
research.
 Older stuff is archived to tape and can be recalled as needed. 


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Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:44:56 -0800, John Norgauer wrote:

I need to copy some files from my 1.9 z/os etc/ssh  to another etc/ssh in
my 1.11 z/os.

Does anyone have a sample for doing this?

Since you happen to mention ssh, one of my favorite techniques
is (specific example untested):

# on z/OS 1.9:

( cd etc/ssh amp; tar -cf - . ) |
ssh zos111 cd /etc/ssh amp; tar -xvf -

(I haven't yet mastered pax.)

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Re: does an UCB include any info on how many systems the given device is online?

2010-11-11 Thread Barry Merrill
RMF 74 records from all systems contain an ONLINE bit that
could be used to count, if you have all of the system's SMF
74s.  That could be a lot of data, and you'd only know
at the granularity of your RMF interval duration.

Barry

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Re: Progress Indicator For AMATERSE?

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:28:42 +, Martin Packer wrote:

When I receive data from a customer I pull it using FTP - and I get a line
in the SYSOUT every so often, as well as an early file size line to
compare against. My next step is to unterse it. I think it would be useful
to have a similar progress indicator.

Do others agree? Or is this a very minor nice to have? (My thinking is a
progress indicator for terse WOULD be useful to customers.)

Hmmm.  AMATERSE UNPACK will accept as its packed input
a concatenation of:

An empty Legacy data set, RECFM=FB,LRECL=1024
A Unix file

(undocumented feature).

As of z/OS 1.12, FTP (either client or server) will manipulate
named pipes (FIFO).

So, FTP into a named pipe.  AMATERSE UNPACK from that named
pipe.  Watch the FTP progress indicator.

Bonus:  No temp storage needed for the tersed file.

If it's a PDS, does AMATERSE unpack to another temp file, then
point IEBCOPY at that?

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Re: File Permissions Question

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:45:12 -0500, Leonard Sasso wrote:

The following worked great:

lcd /local/zos/directory/for/file
get remote.file
!chmod 644 remote.file

When I use FTP to transfer files intended to be read
by an automated or asynchronous process, I always move
to a temporary file, then rename.  This eliminates any
possibility of the asynchronous process's observing a
transfer in progress and getting invalid data.

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Re: File Permissions Question

2010-11-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 18:48 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:45:12 -0500, Leonard Sasso wrote:
 
 The following worked great:
 
 lcd /local/zos/directory/for/file
 get remote.file
 !chmod 644 remote.file
 
 When I use FTP to transfer files intended to be read
 by an automated or asynchronous process, I always move
 to a temporary file, then rename.  This eliminates any
 possibility of the asynchronous process's observing a
 transfer in progress and getting invalid data.
 
 -- gil
 

We use that method too. We also use a trigger file method where we ftp
the real data, then ftp a very small file. The remote system knows the
first file is complete when the second one appears. In addition, we have
a different ftp server called Beyond FTP which integrates scripting so
that it can do things after it successfully receives/sends a file. On
Linux, you could use inotify or ProFTPD to do something similar.

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Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

2010-11-11 Thread Roger Lowe
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:29:04 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote:

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:59 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote:
 John,
You could also try 'copytree'

 Roger


True. I keep forgetting about that because I don't think it is a
standard command that comes with z/OS. Don't you need to download and
install it? I, personally, prefer to use pax. It is a bit more
complicated, but it is standard. Each to his own, of course.

COPYTREE can still be found in the /samples directory and I am running z/OS 1.12

Roger

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Re: Can anyone recommend a replacement for SAR or CA-View Spool?

2010-11-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
Tivoli Output Manager for z/OS is yet another option:

http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/output-mgr/

Please note that I do not speak for IBM. However, my understanding is that
Tivoli Output Manager (among other products) is eligible for sub-capacity
licensing. In particular reference to your circumstances, if you are adding
zNALC and/or Solution Edition qualified workloads, and Tivoli Output
Manager is not running in those LPARs, then you would not have to purchase
additional licenses as your zNALC-qualified workload grows. But please
check with your friendly IBM representative, as they say.

There might be some other IBM product candidates, depending on what
function(s) you're using today.

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Re: File Permissions Question

2010-11-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 13:41 -0500 on 11/10/2010, Leonard Sasso wrote about Re: File 
Permissions Question:



I want to use the chmod command but the length of the filename and and
path is too long.

chmod 644
/u/emedtest/nfstst/fsit/prov/caqh/20101105/RosterException_20101105.txt   


What is the continuation character for the chmod command ?


Thank You.

Len Sasso


One way to overcome a too long situation is to attack it in steps via 
CD commands:



 CD /u/emedtest/nfstst/fsit
 CD ./prov/caqh/20101105
 chmod 644 ./RosterException_20101105.txt

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is out of the office.

2010-11-11 Thread Keith Zawila
I will be out of the office starting  11/11/2010 and will not return until
11/14/2010.

I will be out of the office Thusday (Nov 11) and Friday (Nov 12).  I will
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Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

2010-11-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 21:24 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:29:04 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:59 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote:
  John,
 You could also try 'copytree'
 
  Roger
 
 
 True. I keep forgetting about that because I don't think it is a
 standard command that comes with z/OS. Don't you need to download and
 install it? I, personally, prefer to use pax. It is a bit more
 complicated, but it is standard. Each to his own, of course.
 
 COPYTREE can still be found in the /samples directory and I am running z/OS 
 1.12
 
 Roger
 

Thanks. I'm the __only__ real user of UNIX at work. And I like pax
because it is almost as good as GNU tar. Which is what I use on my Linux
desktop system. At home, I'm 99.9% MS-free (the laptop has Win7, but I
use Linux on it 99.9% of the time). Nobody else finds z/OS UNIX
interesting or useful. Even in my group of sysprogs, they have the it
doesn't work like Windows, so I don't want to be bothered with it
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Re: Need to copy files from etc to etc

2010-11-11 Thread Leopold Strauss

Hi.

May be, i misunderstood something, but look at the manpages of the 
cp-command.



 -R (UNIX to UNIX only) Clones the source trees. cp copies all the files
   and subdirectories specified by source... into directory, making
   careful arrangements to duplicate special files (FIFO, character
   special). cp only follows symbolic link specified as source operand
   on the command line.

  -r (UNIX to UNIX only) Clones the source trees, but makes no allowances
   for special files (FIFO, character special). Consequently, cp
   attempts to read from a device rather than duplicate the special
   file. This is similar to, but less useful than, the preferred -R.

I did a copy of trees very often, and it works.

Many years ago I used cpio ( -iBdumv and -oBav or similar) to copy trees.
But with cp it is much more comfortable.

regards

Leo Strauss


On 12.11.2010 08:09, John McKown wrote:

On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 21:24 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:29:04 -0600, John McKownjoa...@swbell.net  wrote:


On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:59 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote:

John,
You could also try 'copytree'

Roger


True. I keep forgetting about that because I don't think it is a
standard command that comes with z/OS. Don't you need to download and
install it? I, personally, prefer to use pax. It is a bit more
complicated, but it is standard. Each to his own, of course.


COPYTREE can still be found in the /samples directory and I am running z/OS 1.12

Roger


Thanks. I'm the __only__ real user of UNIX at work. And I like pax
because it is almost as good as GNU tar. Which is what I use on my Linux
desktop system. At home, I'm 99.9% MS-free (the laptop has Win7, but I
use Linux on it 99.9% of the time). Nobody else finds z/OS UNIX
interesting or useful. Even in my group of sysprogs, they have the it
doesn't work like Windows, so I don't want to be bothered with it
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How to get CPUID in unauthorized mode (STIDP)

2010-11-11 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
Is there an other way than STIDP to obtain the four chracters of CPU ID ?

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Re: How to get CPUID. I found CSRSI now thank you

2010-11-11 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
I find the CSRSI thank you !

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