Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
More than once, it has been the console of last resort. The last was several years ago, I don't recall using it for the z9. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
zHPF and mixed channels
Quotation from some IBM TechDoc: zHPF is supported on FICON Express2 (FEx2) and FICON Express4 (FEx4) channels. It is not supported on FICON Express channels. I/Os executed on path groups with a mix of FICON Express and FICON Express2 or FICON Express4 channels in the same path group will not be eligible to convert to zHPF. For zHPF, all the channels in the same channel path group have to be FEx2 or FEx4. The above is clear in scenario with one host and one CU. What about many-to-many scenarios? Q1: The following scenario: two host connected to single CU, via switch. Same channel adapter in CU. One host is zHPF capable, the other is not (FICON Express 1). Will zHPF work between CU and first host? Q2: Another scenario: zHPF-capable host connected via switch to two different DASD boxes. First DASD is zHPF-capable, the second is not. Both DASDs are connected to the same CHPIDs. Will zHPF be used for communication between host and first CU? Any clue? Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 16.07.2010 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.248.328 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
W. Kevin Kelley pisze: I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? It happened in the past, but I strongly prefer to use regular console. Regular = 2074, OSA-ICC or 3174 with coax-attached hard terminals. HMC console lacks some funcionality. 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? Never, because I have redundant regular consoles. 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? I never used SMCS. For me it's completely useless feature, because it depends on VTAM. If I have VTAM up ready, then I possibly can have TSO active = access to SDSF EMCS console. My €0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 16.07.2010 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.248.328 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Summer Time, state of art
Hi Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
Hi Miklos Here's some info sent to our Operators (in UK) a few years back, think it's still relevant to z/OS,: Cheers John “MVS bases its decisions and activities on the assumption that time is progressing forward at a constant rate. The instrument used to mark time in an MVS system is the time of day (TOD) clock. As it operates, MVS obtains time stamps from the TOD clock. MVS uses these time stamps to: Identify the sequence of events in the system Determine the duration of an activity Record the time on online reports or printed output Record the time in online logs used for recovery purposes. To ensure that MVS makes time-related decisions as you intend, IBM recommends that you do not reset your TOD clock, for example, to switch to or from Daylight Savings Time. Instead, set the TOD clock to a standard time origin, such as Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), and use the TIMEZONE statement of the CLOCKxx parmlib member to adjust for local time. (The TIMEZONE statement allows you to specify how many hours east or west of Greenwich you are.) To adjust local time, change the offset value for the TIMEZONE statement. This will not disturb MVS's assumption that time is progressing forward and will allow time stamps on printed output and displays to match local time.” (GC28-1779-07) However Flash Card 7 instructs Operations to change time using the TOD clock. This goes against the above recommendations from IBM. So to prevent future problems, new procedures need to be followed by both Operations and Technical Support staff, when changing to and from Summer Time: Operations should Issue the SET CLOCK command to change the local time offset to one hour in advance of GMT for Summer Time, or back to GMT following Summer Time, i.e: SET CLOCK=hh.mm.ss N.B. there is no need to re-IPL. Technical Support also need to change the local time offset value (TIMEZONE) in the CLOCKxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB to reflect the new offset. This will preserve the change for ensuing IPLs, i.e: TIMEZONE d.hh.mm.ss Specifies the difference between the local time and the Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). d Specifies the direction from GMT. Value Range: E for east of GMT or W for west of GMT. Default: W hh.mm.ss Specifies the number of hours (hh) minutes (mm) and seconds (ss) that the localtime differs from the GMT. Value Range: The value for hh must be between 00 and 15. The value for mm and ss must be between 00 and 59. mm.ss values are optional. Default: 00.00.00 e.g. to set to Summer Time: TIMEZONE E.01 References. GC28-1779-07OS/390 MVS Setting Up a Sysplex Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com 29/03/2011 09:28 Hi Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ 'Do it online' with our growing range of online services - http://www.bristol.gov.uk/services Sign-up for our email bulletin giving news, have-your-say and event information at: http://www.bristol.gov.uk/newsdirect View webcasts of Council meetings at http://www.bristol.gov.uk/webcast Bristol is the UK's first Cycling City. Visit www.betterbybike.info to join thousands of others getting around by bike. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
cleaning DASD
Hi, We have an old machine we are getting rid off ( keeping it as a base system for disaster). this machine is sharing with our newer machine some DASD backup. I'm trying to clean all the Dataset which is only cataloged in this machine and not in the other Lpars in the new machine. I was looking in the CBT tape for a rexx which will get me a report base on a volume name it get of which dataset is cataloged on it. so i could later on compare this different report to get a list of dataset only cataloged in the old machine which i can get rid off . In the past I found a CBT rexx which clean uncatalog dataset but this won't help me cause I have two LPARS involve. the reason I'm not starting to write my own REXX is because I never worked with V-toc so even directing me on the right way to do so will be helping. I already thought on letting a REXX perform a LISTDSI on every dataset on the disk base on IEHLIST LISTVTOC output. but will the LISTDSI will work on VASM ? any recommendations will be helpful. -- best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
In spring, we use the SET TIMEZONE=E.01.00 command on most of the systems we support, unless they haven't been IPL'ed for a while. However in the autumn we still shutdown, wait an hour, and IPL. If you run 24x7 CICS, make sure it's setup to cope with the time change ( I forget the SIT parameter ). Regards Paul ___ Atos Origin and Atos Consulting are trading names used by the Atos Origin group. The following trading entities are registered in England and Wales: Atos Origin IT Services UK Limited (registered number 01245534) and Atos Consulting Limited (registered number 04312380). The registered office for each is at 4 Triton Square, Regents Place, London, NW1 3HG.The VAT No. for each is: GB232327983 This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you receive this e-mail in error, you are not authorised to copy, disclose, use or retain it. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your systems. As emails may be intercepted, amended or lost, they are not secure. Atos Origin therefore can accept no liability for any errors or their content. Although Atos Origin endeavours to maintain a virus-free network, we do not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and can accept no liability for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. The risks are deemed to be accepted by everyone who communicates with Atos Origin by email. ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: cleaning DASD
Hi Matan, Have a look at the Vtoc tso command from CBTTAPE file 112. It checks against each dataset listed in the vtoc against the catalog of the system the command runs on. Be sure not to delete files that are catalogued onmore then one system ;-) Dash! ITschak On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, We have an old machine we are getting rid off ( keeping it as a base system for disaster). this machine is sharing with our newer machine some DASD backup. I'm trying to clean all the Dataset which is only cataloged in this machine and not in the other Lpars in the new machine. I was looking in the CBT tape for a rexx which will get me a report base on a volume name it get of which dataset is cataloged on it. so i could later on compare this different report to get a list of dataset only cataloged in the old machine which i can get rid off . In the past I found a CBT rexx which clean uncatalog dataset but this won't help me cause I have two LPARS involve. the reason I'm not starting to write my own REXX is because I never worked with V-toc so even directing me on the right way to do so will be helping. I already thought on letting a REXX perform a LISTDSI on every dataset on the disk base on IEHLIST LISTVTOC output. but will the LISTDSI will work on VASM ? any recommendations will be helpful. -- best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: cleaning DASD
Hi Itschak , Its good hearing from you . I'll check it out thanks for the tip :) On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Matan, Have a look at the Vtoc tso command from CBTTAPE file 112. It checks against each dataset listed in the vtoc against the catalog of the system the command runs on. Be sure not to delete files that are catalogued onmore then one system ;-) Dash! ITschak On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We have an old machine we are getting rid off ( keeping it as a base system for disaster). this machine is sharing with our newer machine some DASD backup. I'm trying to clean all the Dataset which is only cataloged in this machine and not in the other Lpars in the new machine. I was looking in the CBT tape for a rexx which will get me a report base on a volume name it get of which dataset is cataloged on it. so i could later on compare this different report to get a list of dataset only cataloged in the old machine which i can get rid off . In the past I found a CBT rexx which clean uncatalog dataset but this won't help me cause I have two LPARS involve. the reason I'm not starting to write my own REXX is because I never worked with V-toc so even directing me on the right way to do so will be helping. I already thought on letting a REXX perform a LISTDSI on every dataset on the disk base on IEHLIST LISTVTOC output. but will the LISTDSI will work on VASM ? any recommendations will be helpful. -- best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3592 carts
Just out of curiosity, as an amateur I'd like to know - 1. By carts, you imply those tap cartidges, right? 2. I thought that a robotic arm actually mounts the tape cartridge. In the olden days how did this happen? 3. What is ATL? 3592 are typically physical square tapes. And can come in several sizes. Up to 1 TB I think. If you google ATL IBM you should see entries for Automatic Tape Library or sometimes referred to a ROBOT. In the z/OS environment you can have several different tape processing. Everything from virtual tapes to physical tapes. And there are different types of virtual tapes (VTS - Virtual Tapes Systems) as ATLs (Automatic Tape Libraries). There are also manually loaded tape drives and automatically loaded tape drives. HTH Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SR might be palatable if (Part5: Functionality)
Wait, there's more! I have found a victim within IBM who was nice enough to help me with some functionality testing. This required some queuing around of a test SR. I had opened the SR with the following text: This is a test of SR. Please do the following: 1. Entitle to the compid chosen (Allocation). 2. Keep it on the queue until the 'documentation' arrives, simulating a dump transfer. 3. Then send to slink,200, attn. my victim. For my victim, as discussed: 4. Transfer ownership of the PMR to *some* queue somewhere on a BDC node. (Used to be a cr with routing to world trade.) 5. Change your own user so that you appear to work primarily on BDC queues. (IIRC, n;bdc ?) 6. Do an AT with the update This is AT. 7. cr ca back to me. 8. wait for me to update with 'please close'. 9. close the SR. a) I got lots of junk for my efforts, both in the SR shown and in the email notifications. We are interested in 26 lines, not counting the appropriate signature lines and not counting the 'prologue' that details data customarily shown at the top of the Retain page. SR added 51 lines completely unnecessary, as that information is redundant. Some unavoidable IBM entries (like the amount of commands put in that all have the fingerprint of who-did-it and that contract information stuff) add another 30 lines. The amount of junk makes it VERY HARD for anyone to see what's important and what isn't. Stop adding junk that makes a problem very hard to read. Note that the junk added outnumbers the meaningful stuff quite severely! b) Those 26 lines are the things I would like to see via email notification (I told my helpful victim all about it.) c) I am sent too much junk in the body of the email notification. Again, it is much too hard to see the actual update! Stop giving me so much clutter! d) I am not sent actual updates, just what is put in on cr ca (For those unfamiliar with retain, that is the command that changes the ETR state from IBM to Usee - call requeue customer attention/cr ca). ETR is a LOT better in that regard, and I remember that it took some time for them to get there. They manage to get it right most of the time. If you sent me email, provide me with *all* updates, not just those from cr ca! e) The title lines are not telling me what happened with the PMR. I am certainly NOT told that my SR was closed! Instead of sending me an email that tells me that *I* opened an SR, send me one that explicitly tells me that my SR was *closed*! f) Instead of only the PMR number, the title line should also contain the 'abstract', given that the customer is forced to put one in. For someone with a lot of PMRs, no one wants to remember PMR numbers! Provide the abstract in addition to the PMR number in the email header. 7. The supposed email address should not contain this donotoreply thing! Especially since that is repeated in the body of the email. Make the email address the email comes from something that doesn't sound like a lot of SPAM! (srdonotreply) 8. Accessing 'my notifications' from the website takes forever (around 30 seconds at work over high-speed connection, that's much too slow!) Unusable at oh:dark:30. What are you searching here? 9. Skip the 3 lines that say . The customer has requested this ticket be closed. . And since when has this become a 'ticket'?!? In any other place they call it SR or 'Serviceanforderung' - what a terrible translation! 10. Clicking on a closed SR also gets me the Update window. The submit link has been replaced with 'reopen this'. Any closed PMR should (in the interest of IBMs internal statistics) not get reopened just because someone adds text, which is much too easy when shown an update page instead of a browse page! For closed PMRs, show a browse page with the option to explicitly reopen instead of the update page! 11. On many of our closed PMRs I noticed that SR shows even the FA masks, which obviously appear out-of-timeline in the SR. ETR still follows the rule that I learned that FA masks must not be shown to the customer. (Same for the scratch pad on page 1 of any retain record; FA stands for file alter. Usually nothing in retain can be changed once it is commmited, to have a permanent record of who-did-what-and-when, with the exception of 'file alter masks' that are used for IBM internal administrative tasks). - Don't show FA masks! 12. Another thing that annoys me on the searchSR.action page is that despite the clickable search fields being clearly
Re: Summer Time, state of art
Hi Thank you very much On 3/29/2011 10:54 AM, John Cousins wrote: Hi Miklos Here's some info sent to our Operators (in UK) a few years back, think it's still relevant to z/OS,: Cheers John “MVS bases its decisions and activities on the assumption that time is progressing forward at a constant rate. The instrument used to mark time in an MVS system is the time of day (TOD) clock. As it operates, MVS obtains time stamps from the TOD clock. MVS uses these time stamps to: Identify the sequence of events in the system Determine the duration of an activity Record the time on online reports or printed output Record the time in online logs used for recovery purposes. To ensure that MVS makes time-related decisions as you intend, IBM recommends that you do not reset your TOD clock, for example, to switch to or from Daylight Savings Time. Instead, set the TOD clock to a standard time origin, such as Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), and use the TIMEZONE statement of the CLOCKxx parmlib member to adjust for local time. (The TIMEZONE statement allows you to specify how many hours east or west of Greenwich you are.) To adjust local time, change the offset value for the TIMEZONE statement. This will not disturb MVS's assumption that time is progressing forward and will allow time stamps on printed output and displays to match local time.” (GC28-1779-07) However Flash Card 7 instructs Operations to change time using the TOD clock. This goes against the above recommendations from IBM. So to prevent future problems, new procedures need to be followed by both Operations and Technical Support staff, when changing to and from Summer Time: Operations should Issue the SET CLOCK command to change the local time offset to one hour in advance of GMT for Summer Time, or back to GMT following Summer Time, i.e: SET CLOCK=hh.mm.ss N.B. there is no need to re-IPL. Technical Support also need to change the local time offset value (TIMEZONE) in the CLOCKxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB to reflect the new offset. This will preserve the change for ensuing IPLs, i.e: TIMEZONE d.hh.mm.ss Specifies the difference between the local time and the Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). d Specifies the direction from GMT. Value Range: E for east of GMT or W for west of GMT. Default: W hh.mm.ss Specifies the number of hours (hh) minutes (mm) and seconds (ss) that the localtime differs from the GMT. Value Range: The value for hh must be between 00 and 15. The value for mm and ss must be between 00 and 59. mm.ss values are optional. Default: 00.00.00 e.g. to set to Summer Time: TIMEZONE E.01 References. GC28-1779-07OS/390 MVS Setting Up a Sysplex Miklos Szigetvarimiklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com 29/03/2011 09:28 Hi Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ 'Do it online' with our growing range of online services - http://www.bristol.gov.uk/services Sign-up for our email bulletin giving news, have-your-say and event information at: http://www.bristol.gov.uk/newsdirect View webcasts of Council meetings at http://www.bristol.gov.uk/webcast Bristol is the UK's first Cycling City. Visit www.betterbybike.info to join thousands of others getting around by bike. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Beesley, Paul In spring, we use the SET TIMEZONE=E.01.00 command on most of the systems we support, unless they haven't been IPL'ed for a while. However in the autumn we still shutdown, wait an hour, and IPL. If you run 24x7 CICS, make sure it's setup to cope with the time change ( I forget the SIT parameter ). I'm amazed and mystified that the arguably most sophisticated and mature operating system in the world still cannot automatically handle the changes to and from Daylight Saving Time. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
options 1) and 3) apply at our site. We've never used SYSCONS to accomplish option 2). Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Kevin: Since switching to our new z10, we have only OSA attached consoles. We got rid of all the 3174s and green-screen consoles, which were very long in the tooth anyway. Operations really only uses the HMC to initiate an IPL, as the PCs in the operations area remain attached to specific OSA slots designating them as consoles and these addresses are also defined as NIP consoles. The z10 has been around less than a year so we haven't yet had to use the HMC as the console of last resort, although that day may yet come along. We have used it to recover OSA attached consoles in the last month when the PC group pushed some updates to the PCs in the operations area, forgetting that they were special (being used as consoles). Forcing a reboot caused them to lose their OSA connections. Fortunately, we had already set up a procedure for console recovery from the HMC that operations was able to follow. Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital On 03/29/2011 12:01 AM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote: I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Keep in mind that the HMCs on your SE LAN are may be ;-) an integral part of the BCPii connectivity between CECs. For a remote request, BCPii will tunnel through to the SE on the local CEC and if the BCPii request is not for this CEC then move to the HMC looking for a route to the SE for the remote CEC in question. The HMC has moved beyond just console/IPL support, but then you all knew that already, didn't you g I really like the OSA support for consoles and also the ability to easily get to the HMC via a web browser (of course with the proper firewall support and not directly on the SE LAN subnet). Back in a previous life it saved me a LOT of walking back and forth to the HMC console during test IPLs. Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? I have. Our normal consoles are controlled by an Visara. This is Escon attached to the z. It presents a 3174 type controller which can be EMIF'ed. It has two coax attached 3270 emulation PCs and is LAN attached to allow TN3270 access to both consoles and local 3270 VTAM controlled terminals. 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? No OSA consoles, but I have used it to recover the Visara consoles. 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? This is how I do it on my sandbox system. Also, we have no operators at all any more. So I even IPL from home using the HMC system console via the HMC's web interface. I have an IODF with no NIPCONS which I use when I do this. Others in my group prefer to drive into work and IPL from the actual HMC and using the Visara NIPCONS. I don't know why. W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development I do hope the PHBs aren't considering removing the support. I wish z/OS would support the HMC's integrated 3270 interface. z/VM does. Are you saying that the z/VM people are smarter than the z/OS people? slight dig -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
It isn't the operating system that has the problem. It is the poorly written application programs which do not use the GMT time for their time stamps in whatever data records they are recording. Instead, way back when, they decided to use LOCAL time and then do computations on that LOCAL time field against CURRENT LOCAL time which gets them into trouble during the FALL BACK time change. DB2 uses the GMT Time to stamp the LOG records it is recording for recovery so that is not an issue. SMF records have GMT Time in them so that is not an issue. No it is the wonderfully written, old legacy applications which are at the root of the problem. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Summer Time, state of art -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Beesley, Paul In spring, we use the SET TIMEZONE=E.01.00 command on most of the systems we support, unless they haven't been IPL'ed for a while. However in the autumn we still shutdown, wait an hour, and IPL. If you run 24x7 CICS, make sure it's setup to cope with the time change ( I forget the SIT parameter ). I'm amazed and mystified that the arguably most sophisticated and mature operating system in the world still cannot automatically handle the changes to and from Daylight Saving Time. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information in this Internet Email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this Email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this Email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing The Home Depot terms of business or client engagement letter. The Home Depot disclaims all responsibility and liability for the accuracy and content of this attachment and for any damages or losses arising from any inaccuracies, errors, viruses, e.g., worms, trojan horses, etc., or other items of a destructive nature, which may be contained in this attachment and shall not be liable for direct, indirect, consequential or special damages in connection with this e-mail message ! or its attachment. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3592 carts
Define an MLT - Manual Tape Library - in your IODF. That is an SMS tape library which uses manual drives. Give it the same storage group as your old ATL. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of FRANCIS SOUSA Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3592 carts HI Everyone, we had an ATL 3594, which was dismantled and the drives alongwith the control unit were used as a standalone device for carts to be used outside the ATL, so that the operators now have to mount the carts manually instead of the robot. The issue now is that the carts inside the ATL were SMS managed and unfortunately they were not removed from the ATL before it was dismantled, and neither was the location of the carts in RMM changed to shelf. so now we are stuck as these carts cannot be used outside the dismantled ATL, any attempt to change the location to SHELF fails cause the system still senses it as a sms managed cart and tries eject the cart, which fails as the ATL is dismantled, any idea how to resolve this problem, help appreciated -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
We use the z/OS operator command: SET TIMEZONE. We are in US Central Time. At 02:00 on the appropriate day, we just issue the command: T TIMEZONE=W.06 or T TIMEZONE=W.05 We're on z/OS 1.10. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Summer Time, state of art Hi Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3592 carts
I am not at 100% sure about RMM, and with both CA 1 and TLMS I know there are librarian commands to change the shelf/location of the cartridges. I am sure that there are similar commands for rmm. As for the ATL, I see two choices? First would be to define your drives as MTL (Manual Tape Library) drives. This would allow them to remain as OAM managed, but you would have to change the location from the old hardware library to the new MTL. The other choice would be to delete the SMS definitions. You might be able to simply delete the library definition from SMS (use the ISMF panels) and delete the VOLCAT (TCDB) which is mainframe database that OAM maintained when you had a robotic library. Russell Witt CA 1 L2 Support Manager -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of FRANCIS SOUSA Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3592 carts HI Everyone, we had an ATL 3594, which was dismantled and the drives alongwith the control unit were used as a standalone device for carts to be used outside the ATL, so that the operators now have to mount the carts manually instead of the robot. The issue now is that the carts inside the ATL were SMS managed and unfortunately they were not removed from the ATL before it was dismantled, and neither was the location of the carts in RMM changed to shelf. so now we are stuck as these carts cannot be used outside the dismantled ATL, any attempt to change the location to SHELF fails cause the system still senses it as a sms managed cart and tries eject the cart, which fails as the ATL is dismantled, any idea how to resolve this problem, help appreciated -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
2 and 3. Especially during sand-box type operations of building a new system. Until JES is initialized and the log captured, it is extremely difficult to debug PARMLIB errors, etc -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
Correct Jim, That is why we leave the system and most of the subsystems running and only keep down those subsystems (e.g. IMS) where we suspect the applications with the problems you mention. Kees. Petersen, Jim jim_peter...@homedepot.com wrote in message news:4ff9936e7708d445a1c50e882ea37f79089307e...@025-namsg-03.025d.mgd.m sft.net... It isn't the operating system that has the problem. It is the poorly written application programs which do not use the GMT time for their time stamps in whatever data records they are recording. Instead, way back when, they decided to use LOCAL time and then do computations on that LOCAL time field against CURRENT LOCAL time which gets them into trouble during the FALL BACK time change. DB2 uses the GMT Time to stamp the LOG records it is recording for recovery so that is not an issue. SMF records have GMT Time in them so that is not an issue. No it is the wonderfully written, old legacy applications which are at the root of the problem. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Summer Time, state of art -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Beesley, Paul In spring, we use the SET TIMEZONE=E.01.00 command on most of the systems we support, unless they haven't been IPL'ed for a while. However in the autumn we still shutdown, wait an hour, and IPL. If you run 24x7 CICS, make sure it's setup to cope with the time change ( I forget the SIT parameter ). I'm amazed and mystified that the arguably most sophisticated and mature operating system in the world still cannot automatically handle the changes to and from Daylight Saving Time. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information in this Internet Email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this Email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this Email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing The Home Depot terms of business or client engagement letter. The Home Depot disclaims all responsibility and liability for the accuracy and content of this attachment and for any damages or losses arising from any inaccuracies, errors, viruses, e.g., worms, trojan horses, etc., or other items of a destructive nature, which may be contained in this attachment and shall not be liable for direct, indirect, consequential or special damages in connection with this e-mail message ! or its attachment. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at
Re: Summer Time, state of art
John: That makes the most sense, given a TOD clock set to GMT. Do you have to do anything else special? I saw a reference to a SIT parameter for CICS. I have to look for the value, but I suspect it changes the way that CICS changes the date. Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital On 03/29/2011 08:07 AM, McKown, John wrote: We use the z/OS operator command: SET TIMEZONE. We are in US Central Time. At 02:00 on the appropriate day, we just issue the command: T TIMEZONE=W.06 or T TIMEZONE=W.05 We're on z/OS 1.10. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Summer Time, state of art Hi Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) Not directly answering your question, but do what Russia just decided: Get rid of that stupid time change twice a year and stick with summer time setting. I wish the EU would decide likewise. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
For any CICS regions which are up, we enter a command: F cics,CEMT PER RESET To tell the region to resync its internal clock to the z/OS clock. We don't do anything else. Batch jobs just get weird times. Especially during the fall back clock change. We have jobs end before they began. I hate local time. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Myers Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Summer Time, state of art John: That makes the most sense, given a TOD clock set to GMT. Do you have to do anything else special? I saw a reference to a SIT parameter for CICS. I have to look for the value, but I suspect it changes the way that CICS changes the date. Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital On 03/29/2011 08:07 AM, McKown, John wrote: We use the z/OS operator command: SET TIMEZONE. We are in US Central Time. At 02:00 on the appropriate day, we just issue the command: T TIMEZONE=W.06 or T TIMEZONE=W.05 We're on z/OS 1.10. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Summer Time, state of art Hi Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Petersen, Jim It isn't the operating system that has the problem. It is the poorly written application programs which do not use the GMT time for their time stamps in whatever data records they are recording. Instead, way back when, they decided to use LOCAL time and then do computations on that LOCAL time field against CURRENT LOCAL time which gets them into trouble during the FALL BACK time change. z/OS still requires manual updating of the TIMEZONE parm (at minimum) at each time change. The other systems with which I'm familiar all do that automatically. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John We use the z/OS operator command: SET TIMEZONE. We are in US Central Time. At 02:00 on the appropriate day, we just issue the command: T TIMEZONE=W.06 or T TIMEZONE=W.05 We're on z/OS 1.10. Windoze, Linux, et al (even z/VM) do that automatically. Why is it (still) necessary to do it manually on z/OS? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) Not directly answering your question, but do what Russia just decided: Get rid of that stupid time change twice a year and stick with summer time setting. I wish the EU would decide likewise. The US did exactly that for a time during the Nixon presidency. I don't remember why we reverted to spring forward, fall back. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
Why ask me? grin. Somebody in IBM could take the Linux timezone data and make it work on z/OS. Why don't they? Well, given some of Lynn Wheelers' posts, I'd say hubris and not invented here syndrome. Similar to the egos of Balmer, Gates, and Jobs. Competent men, but arrogant. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Summer Time, state of art -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John We use the z/OS operator command: SET TIMEZONE. We are in US Central Time. At 02:00 on the appropriate day, we just issue the command: T TIMEZONE=W.06 or T TIMEZONE=W.05 We're on z/OS 1.10. Windoze, Linux, et al (even z/VM) do that automatically. Why is it (still) necessary to do it manually on z/OS? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
In one of our environments, for a long time (years), the HMC system console was our only console for most of the systems. We eventually implemented IIC because the HMC console was a pain to use and at the time not available to the sysprog folks. The specific environment consists of multi-image sysplexes running a single app (DB2 for mySAP), so the actual console interaction is minimal. Today this environment (and the other 'legacy' environment) uses redundant ICC. Some of our operators still seem to use the HMC console though. Probably because it's right there for them when they IPL (HMC is a short walk from their desk). Never used SMCS. Answers to your specific questions: 1 - We have 2 - Not that I can recall 3 - Used to apply to us, not any more. Bart -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Summer Time, state of art -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) Till now, we always made an IPL at summer/winter time change. Maybe something better ? (We are in zOS 1.11) Not directly answering your question, but do what Russia just decided: Get rid of that stupid time change twice a year and stick with summer time setting. I wish the EU would decide likewise. The US did exactly that for a time during the Nixon presidency. I don't remember why we reverted to spring forward, fall back. -jc- Perhaps it is like my boss indicated. He likes the time change. Because it gives him sunshine hours after work. So he goes out and does things. Which stimulates the economy. So summer hours basically help the economy by urging people to spend more money. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zIIPs and zAAPs
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d9901...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 03/28/2011 at 10:35 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: zIIPs require special SRB enclave coding, as I understand it. zAAPs run java byte code. No; they run the same instructions as any other engine, except for the instruction used to determine whether an engine is a general CP. When a ZAAP is used for Java the JVM interpreter is running on the ZAAP. Java is no more dangerous than COBOL. The issue isn't the language features, it's the interpreter. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Until JES is initialized and the log captured, it is extremely difficult to debug PARMLIB errors, etc amen to that... Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time) 2 and 3. Especially during sand-box type operations of building a new system. Until JES is initialized and the log captured, it is extremely difficult to debug PARMLIB errors, etc -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
If you use the server time protocol (STP) changing timezone can be done automatically op z/OS: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/pso/stp.html All we have in our CLOCK member: STPMODE YES STPZONE YES We got last weekend: IEA392I STP TIME OFFSET CHANGES HAVE OCCURRED. After which we have automation give F cicsregion,CEMT P RESET commands. Regards, Erik Janssen. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Namens Chase, John Verzonden: dinsdag 29 maart 2011 15:07 Aan: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Onderwerp: Re: Summer Time, state of art -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John We use the z/OS operator command: SET TIMEZONE. We are in US Central Time. At 02:00 on the appropriate day, we just issue the command: T TIMEZONE=W.06 or T TIMEZONE=W.05 We're on z/OS 1.10. Windoze, Linux, et al (even z/VM) do that automatically. Why is it (still) necessary to do it manually on z/OS? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:07:23 -0500, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: Windoze, Linux, et al (even z/VM) do that automatically. Why is it (still) necessary to do it manually on z/OS? -jc- I would suspect that if done automatically it could pose a problem to applications that do have a problem with the fallback scenario as indicated previously in this thread. That said, there *could* be a IEASYS parm that tells z/OS either to automagically do the change, or even prompt, or not at all. We have one of those applicatons here that are unsure if the fall back would hose up their internal SLA's, so they request that their CICS's be brought down for that hour. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
1. yes 2. We are using OSA-ICC support for we have tried to recover OSA consoles when we have problems. 3. No locally-attached console, all OSA-ICC. Brad Wissink Information Technology Services Iowa State University 515-294-3088 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
If you have z machines which are capable of STP then there is an option to automatically change the time at the appointed hour since it is using NTP as well. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Summer Time, state of art -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Petersen, Jim It isn't the operating system that has the problem. It is the poorly written application programs which do not use the GMT time for their time stamps in whatever data records they are recording. Instead, way back when, they decided to use LOCAL time and then do computations on that LOCAL time field against CURRENT LOCAL time which gets them into trouble during the FALL BACK time change. z/OS still requires manual updating of the TIMEZONE parm (at minimum) at each time change. The other systems with which I'm familiar all do that automatically. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information in this Internet Email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this Email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this Email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing The Home Depot terms of business or client engagement letter. The Home Depot disclaims all responsibility and liability for the accuracy and content of this attachment and for any damages or losses arising from any inaccuracies, errors, viruses, e.g., worms, trojan horses, etc., or other items of a destructive nature, which may be contained in this attachment and shall not be liable for direct, indirect, consequential or special damages in connection with this e-mail message ! or its attachment. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VOLCAT and DR
Good day. We've built a one-pack recovery system for DR which includes OAM as we're restoring from encrypted tapes. Setting up the SMS aspects, too, which leads us to a couple of questions. Do we need VOLCAT.VGENERAL as well as VOLCAT.V2 which covers our 3592 tapes? We also want to refresh several files on the one pack volume daily so that it's restore the one and go, the VOLCATS included. We still need to define the VOLCAT file(s) and figure out the refresh for them as well. Has anyone else done anything close to this? We appreciate suggestions and I'm off to look at red books and manuals as well. We also use a 1-pack recovery system at DR 3592 encrypted tapes. I'm curious as to what encryption you're using that requires OAM? We're currently using EKM, the free version, it's located on our 1-pack system. Encryption requires we set up the encryption server, but not OAM. We're not a huge shop by any means. We back up everything we need to restore on less than 20 3592 tapes. We have an IBM 3500 ATL at DR, but during the initial restore, we don't define it use the the TS1130 drives in it as stand-alone drives. We issue commands to mount the tapes to specific drives leave them up until we're ready to start the other systems. Hope that helps. dd keller This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Answers embedded below. Matt -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? Yeap, we have. 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? Not yet, but we have to in the future. 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? If management knew that could be done, they would use it as a cost savings measure and save some pennies on a console. W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zIIPs and zAAPs
zIIPs require special SRB enclave coding, as I understand it. zAAPs run java byte code. Both run (only) native z/Architecture machine instructions. All restrictions and requirements are imposed by z/OS only and not by hardware. z/OS defines rules under which work units (TCBs and SRBs) may or may not be queued on either the zAAP WUQ or zIIP WUQ. IIRC, zAAP processors are not enabled for I/O interrupts. Not sure about zIIPs. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
Perhaps it is like my boss indicated. He likes the time change. Because it gives him sunshine hours after work. So he goes out and does things. Which stimulates the economy. So summer hours basically help the economy by urging people to spend more money. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why it is good to have sunshine hours after work in summer but not in winter. You might say that in winter it is dark when you leave the office any way, so it doesn't help. True, but it doesn't do any harm either, does it?. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
The idea is that having more light earlier in the morning, the children waiting for school buses don't have to wait in the dark, where they are more at risk of either being snatched by some bad guy or hit by a car that doesn't see them in the dark. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Summer Time, state of art Perhaps it is like my boss indicated. He likes the time change. Because it gives him sunshine hours after work. So he goes out and does things. Which stimulates the economy. So summer hours basically help the economy by urging people to spend more money. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why it is good to have sunshine hours after work in summer but not in winter. You might say that in winter it is dark when you leave the office any way, so it doesn't help. True, but it doesn't do any harm either, does it?. -- Peter Hunkeler The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
In 4ff9936e7708d445a1c50e882ea37f79089307e...@025-namsg-03.025d.mgd.msft.net, on 03/29/2011 at 07:01 AM, Petersen, Jim jim_peter...@homedepot.com said: It isn't the operating system that has the problem. It is the poorly written application programs which do not use the GMT time for their time stamps in whatever data records they are recording. Instead, way back when, they decided to use LOCAL time and then do computations on that LOCAL time field against CURRENT LOCAL time which gets them into trouble during the FALL BACK time change. Way back when? Way back when there was no clock offset. If the application was written in the early days then it's an issue of not upgrading it to exploit new facilities, not of poor design. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zIIPs and zAAPs
In ih71p691hnkepau26rkb5q5dciqoogt...@4ax.com, on 03/28/2011 at 04:42 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said: The security issue is allowing application programmers to write SRB code (which implies the ability to update APF datasets). I was under the impression that the applications being discussed were already AC(1). Modifying an AC(1) application to schedule an SRB introduces an additional level of risk. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zIIPs and zAAPs
In fn6vo6t3r6jjdhc3kh0cl6e9421cd93...@4ax.com, on 03/27/2011 at 10:37 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said: As an SRB runs in supervisor state it can do what it wishes. It can alter the new PSW's and do I/O . Code under an SRB doesn't need to cheat in order to do I/O; it can use the STARTIO macro. BTW, it can issue an SVC 13. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:01 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I do hope the PHBs aren't considering removing the support. I wish z/OS would support the HMC's integrated 3270 interface. z/VM does. Are you saying that the z/VM people are smarter than the z/OS people? slight dig Try adding a TN3270E device at UCB . That is what hercules did to use z/VM. They did have to define it as a SysG console, but that was a z/VM requirement. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Thank you for your e-mail. A representative of the zVM team will review your request and respond to you as soon as possible. Thanks again, zVM Team -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Mike, we are currently moving consoles to osa. I checked our HMC guide and did not see anything on console recovery. Could you provide some details or where I could find some information. Thanks Matt -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Myers Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time) Kevin: Since switching to our new z10, we have only OSA attached consoles. We got rid of all the 3174s and green-screen consoles, which were very long in the tooth anyway. Operations really only uses the HMC to initiate an IPL, as the PCs in the operations area remain attached to specific OSA slots designating them as consoles and these addresses are also defined as NIP consoles. The z10 has been around less than a year so we haven't yet had to use the HMC as the console of last resort, although that day may yet come along. We have used it to recover OSA attached consoles in the last month when the PC group pushed some updates to the PCs in the operations area, forgetting that they were special (being used as consoles). Forcing a reboot caused them to lose their OSA connections. Fortunately, we had already set up a procedure for console recovery from the HMC that operations was able to follow. Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital On 03/29/2011 12:01 AM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote: I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
1 Yes 2 Yes but if I have a running system I'll do it from there or through SDSF 3 OSA-ICC only -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
That was the reasoning. And the actual stats showed they were safer in the dark being illuminated by headlights instead of standing in the dawn hours with drivers blinded by the sun coming over the horizon. In 2011 in the Colorado legislature someone submitted a bill to stay with standard hour year round and it failed in committee. Someone else submitted a bill to stay on daylight savings time year round and it has advanced. DST was supposed to save energy by require less lighting in the evening. Nowdays you get home at the hottest part of the day and you use more energy to cool down the house than if you got home later. This is why Arizona stays on ST year round. Do your exercise in the morning, shower, go to work and come home after the hottest part of the day has passed. It might be a dry heat, but 120F heating your car to 200F and cooking dinner on the dash board http://www.divaherself.com/summerfun/dashboarddining2.html , it is still way too hot to get in to drive home. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote: The idea is that having more light earlier in the morning, the children waiting for school buses don't have to wait in the dark, where they are more at risk of either being snatched by some bad guy or hit by a car that doesn't see them in the dark. Rex -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Announcement Letters unavailable?
It being Tuesday it's my normal habit to review the latest IBM Announcement Letters but not having any joy bringing them up. I usually use this link: http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/apilite?infotype=aninfosubt=calastdays=7ctvwcode=ushitlimit=200appname=USN but that's timing out. Even searching on the topic Announcement Letters within IBMLink and selecting a specific letter from the results list comes back with the same thing. It's quite possible it's been moved, again, as what used to be so easy to access under the old 3270 IBMLink is typically hidden, IMO, under a series of non-intuitive links on the web version. Anyone else experiencing this or have a better mousetrap? Thanks. ___ Karl S Huf | Senior Vice President | World Wide Technology 840 S Canal, Chicago, IL, 60607 | phone (312)630-6287 | k...@ntrs.com Please visit northerntrust.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is confidential, may be privileged and is meant only for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender ASAP and delete this message from your system. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To the extent that this message or any attachment concerns tax matters, it is not intended to be used and cannot be used by a taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by law. For more information about this notice, see http://www.northerntrust.com/circular230 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Announcement Letters unavailable?
Works for me at 10:25 AM US Central time snip It being Tuesday it's my normal habit to review the latest IBM Announcement Letters but not having any joy bringing them up. I usually use this link: http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/apilite?infotype=aninfosubt=calastda ys=7ctvwcode=ushitlimit=200appname=USN but that's timing out. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Announcement Letters, part Duh
Sure, after trying multiple ways to access the letters over the last half hour as soon as I send out a note to IBM-Main . . . it suddenly works. Behold the power of Listserv! ___ Karl S Huf | Senior Vice President | World Wide Technology 840 S Canal, Chicago, IL, 60607 | phone (312)630-6287 | k...@ntrs.com Please visit northerntrust.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is confidential, may be privileged and is meant only for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender ASAP and delete this message from your system. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To the extent that this message or any attachment concerns tax matters, it is not intended to be used and cannot be used by a taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by law. For more information about this notice, see http://www.northerntrust.com/circular230 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:07:23 -0500, Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John T TIMEZONE=W.06 or T TIMEZONE=W.05 Windoze, Linux, et al (even z/VM) do that automatically. Why is it (still) necessary to do it manually on z/OS? In fact, most of those systems have a different paradigm. There is no current time offset stored in a control block, and no need to do that automatically semiannually. Rather, they embed a function which takes as an argument a UTC timestamp and returns as a result the corresponding local timestamp. This works equally for historic timestamps. During the summer, the function can be called with a UTC value from the previous winter and it will correctly return the corresponding local time. In the U.S.A. the last time the function was updated was in 2006, as a consequence of legislative change. The updated function still gives correct results for times before 2006 as well as after. What does STCKCONV do? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
I have a fairly simple application requirement to be able to use BOTH an E15 and an E35 exit in an OPTION COPY execution of SORT, but this is specifically disallowed (generates RC=16 message ICE161A from DFSORT and WER102A from SYNCSORT). If I use a MERGE FIELDS=(p,l,f,A) on a known ascending field (and the EQUALS option just for insurance that the record order is not disturbed) and use SORTIN01 for the input instead of SORTIN, it works just fine with both exits in COBOL. Can Mr. Yeager or some other SORT knowledgeable soul explain to me why this simple and straightforward use of SORT exits in a COPY operation is specifically forbidden? It simply makes no sense to me whatsoever. Peter -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CPU Serialnumber
Spooky timing!! I was just researching the PCCA as we got burned in z/OS 1.12 as the PCCA pointer in the PSA is now 31 bit address and one of our home grown utilities failed. The 1.12 data areas books still say that the following fields are part of the programming interface: PCCACAFM PCCACPID PCCACPUA PCCASLIH PCCASTPI TOKEN we use PCCACPID to find out the machine we are running on. Not bothered about which CP! Andrew -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Summer Time, state of art
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:58:44 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: Not directly answering your question, but do what Russia just decided: Get rid of that stupid time change twice a year and stick with summer time setting. I wish the EU would decide likewise. I'd not envision that working in the long term. People would gradually adjust their schedules to the old solar time and new clock times. Within historic times (Matthew 20:1â16) the sun was considered to rise at 00:00; people took their siesta at 06:00 (check etymology) and the sun set at 12:00. When the convention was changed to 00:00 at midnight, people continued to regulate their workdays by solar time, not by the new clock time. I understand China has a single time zone. How do Chinese schedule their daily activities? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SAPI LRECL Limit
Hunting through the doc but can't find an answer. When reading a JES2 spool dataset using SAPI is there a maximum record length that can be returned? I have someone that created a 1400+ byte record length on spool and when our report distribution package reads it it gets truncated at 256 bytes. Vendor claims it is JES2/SAPI doing it. TIA Ken Porowski VP Mainframe Administration E: ken.porow...@cit.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
Peter Farley on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/29/2011 08:51:20 AM: I have a fairly simple application requirement to be able to use BOTH an E15 and an E35 exit in an OPTION COPY execution of SORT, but this is specifically disallowed (generates RC=16 message ICE161A from DFSORT and WER102A from SYNCSORT). If I use a MERGE FIELDS=(p,l,f,A) on a known ascending field (and the EQUALS option just for insurance that the record order is not disturbed) and use SORTIN01 for the input instead of SORTIN, it works just fine with both exits in COBOL. Can Mr. Yeager or some other SORT knowledgeable soul explain to me why this simple and straightforward use of SORT exits in a COPY operation is specifically forbidden? It simply makes no sense to me Peter, In the SORT case, the COBOL E15 and COBOL E35 are NEVER active at the same time, so the tricks we play with the COBOL environment work ok and we can allow both exits. For a SORT, the input (E15) and output (E35) phases are performed separately. In the COPY case, the COBOL E15 and COBOL E35 are active at the same time, so the tricks we play with the COBOL environment won't work and we don't allow both exits. For a COPY, the input (E15) and output (E35) phases are combined. In the MERGE case, the E15 is actually ignored (MERGE uses an E32 for input, not an E15). That's as much detail as I can give you. Not being a COBOL guy, I couldn't explain the tricks even if I was allowed to. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
binary add
Dear group, I'm reading some SMF30 records and want to accumulate several 4 byte binary values (like CPU SU, IO SU, ...) for jobs which achieve the same criteria. But the summation grows over the 4 byte capacity (I use AR in Amode31). Is there a way to use 2 register for the summation. Or can I use Amode64-Code only for the addition. I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. Hope somebody could help me. Any hint appreciated. With best regards Monika -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Announcement Letters, part Duh
Or maybe the power of Murphy's Law. I have found a way to foil Murphy's Law most of the time. Whenever I go anywhere, such as a doctor's office, automobile repair shop, etc., at which I might possibly have to wait, I always take something with me to read while waiting. I almost never have to wait when I get there. If I don't take anything with me to read, there will already be a one-hour-long waiting line ahead of me. It also works when driving. If I have something I am trying to do while driving, like shave using my portable battery-powered shave, the traffic lights will all be green and I never have to stop, thus I never get a chance to do whatever the other thing was that I wanted to do while driving. But if I don't have anything else to do, then all the traffic lights are red when I arrive at them. Back to mainframes. The same works when I submit a batch job to assemble some code. If I have something else to do when waiting for the job to finish, it will finish almost instantaneously. But if I have no other work to do while waiting, then something will go wrong go wrong go wrong and my job will run very sloowly. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Karl Huf Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Announcement Letters, part Duh Sure, after trying multiple ways to access the letters over the last half hour as soon as I send out a note to IBM-Main . . . it suddenly works. Behold the power of Listserv! ___ Karl S Huf | Senior Vice President | World Wide Technology 840 S Canal, Chicago, IL, 60607 | phone (312)630-6287 | k...@ntrs.com Please visit northerntrust.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is confidential, may be privileged and is meant only for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender ASAP and delete this message from your system. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To the extent that this message or any attachment concerns tax matters, it is not intended to be used and cannot be used by a taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by law. For more information about this notice, see http://www.northerntrust.com/circular230 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Summer Time, state of art
Paul Gilmartin writes: begin snippet I'd not envision that working in the long term. People would gradually adjust their schedules to the old solar time and new clock times. Within historic times (Matthew 20:1–16) the sun was considered to rise at 00:00; people took their siesta at 06:00 (check etymology) and the sun set at 12:00. When the convention was changed to 00:00 at midnight, people continued to regulate their workdays by solar time, not by the new clock time. /end snippet and I seem fated to disagree with him, this time only in part. Much of the history that he rehashes is of little current relevance. It relates to a past when lamps, candles, and the like were the only artificial illumination available. Time-keeping and calendrical changes always provoke protest, much of it irrational. When the parts of the world under British control, including British North America, were finally switched from the Juilian/old Roman to the Gregorian calendar in 1752, there were demonstrations/disturbances/riots against it in Boston and Philadelphia; and in New York the Riot Act was actually read to an assembly of unruly apprentices. Workingmen of the time judged that their lives were being shortened by 12 (sic) days, that they would be cheated of pay, etc., etc., despite the fact that the enabling Parliamentary legislation was a model of clarity that addressed [the real] such problems comprehensively. These anxieties dissipated quickly, not least because urban as opposed to pastoral or agricultural groups need 'arbitrary' conventions. The number of daylight hours differs greatly from season to season in most of the world, and urban affairs cannot and need no longer be regulated by the variable times of sunrise and sunset. When, more recently, Europeans adopted the 24-hour clock for civil use there were the usual complaints; and when, finally, it is adopted in the United States--The American military of course use it already--there will be more of these complaints. Computer networks that do not use GMT/UTC are and have for long been an absurdity, and the sooner those that do not use it are changed to do so the better. These things said, some of what PG is saying or implying is certainly true, if not very interesting. Few golf courses are [yet?] lighted, and if one wants to and can as a practical matter play golf in winter, one must perforce change the times of day when one plays in order to fit a game into the daylight hours. On the other hand American professional baseball was in my youth played only in the afternoon: baseball stadia were not yet lighted. Today it it often played at night: most baseball stadia are now lighted. Again, the same thing is occurring with ski trails. I ski only during daylight hours; but some short (mostly beginners') trails are now lighted, and some people now use them at midnight. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: binary add
I wouldn't be to worried about using a CVD and AP for your total fields. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Monika Amiss monika.am...@arcor.de wrote: Dear group, I'm reading some SMF30 records and want to accumulate several 4 byte binary values (like CPU SU, IO SU, ...) for jobs which achieve the same criteria. But the summation grows over the 4 byte capacity (I use AR in Amode31). Is there a way to use 2 register for the summation. Or can I use Amode64-Code only for the addition. I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. Hope somebody could help me. Any hint appreciated. With best regards Monika -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: binary add
You can use DFSORT SUM FIELDS to consolidate records. When adding two records together would overlow any output field, it will not consolidate those records and you end up with multiple records for the same key. You might be able to extend the fields with x'00' fillers in front, depending on how large a binary field it will allow. Or convert them to PD or ZD fields which allow 15 digits. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Monika Amiss monika.am...@arcor.de wrote: Dear group, I'm reading some SMF30 records and want to accumulate several 4 byte binary values (like CPU SU, IO SU, ...) for jobs which achieve the same criteria. But the summation grows over the 4 byte capacity (I use AR in Amode31). Is there a way to use 2 register for the summation. Or can I use Amode64-Code only for the addition. I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. Hope somebody could help me. Any hint appreciated. With best regards Monika -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: binary add
Monika, Personally I would use XGR Rx,Rx and then a sequence of AGF Rx,field instructions At the end, just use CVDG and ED to make it pretty Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Monika Amiss Sent: 29 March 2011 18:07 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: binary add Dear group, I'm reading some SMF30 records and want to accumulate several 4 byte binary values (like CPU SU, IO SU, ...) for jobs which achieve the same criteria. But the summation grows over the 4 byte capacity (I use AR in Amode31). Is there a way to use 2 register for the summation. Or can I use Amode64-Code only for the addition. I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. Hope somebody could help me. Any hint appreciated. With best regards Monika -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: binary add
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Monika Amiss Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: binary add Dear group, I'm reading some SMF30 records and want to accumulate several 4 byte binary values (like CPU SU, IO SU, ...) for jobs which achieve the same criteria. But the summation grows over the 4 byte capacity (I use AR in Amode31). Is there a way to use 2 register for the summation. Or can I use Amode64-Code only for the addition. I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. Hope somebody could help me. Any hint appreciated. With best regards Monika If you are on a z, you can use 64 bit arithmetic. It has nothing to do with AMODE. You can use 64 bit arithmetic even in 24 or 31 bit addressing mode. Eg. Instead of: L R2,FULLWORD1 A R2,FULLWORD2 ST R2,RESULT you could do: LGF R2,FULLWORD1 LOAD 64 BIT R2 FROM 32 BIT FULLWORD1 AGF R2,FULLWORD2 ADD 32 BIT FULLWORD2 TO 64 BIT R2 STG R2,DOUBLEWORD SAVE 64 BIT RESULT or LGF R2,FULLWORD1 LOAD 32 BIT FULLWORD INTO 64 BIT R2 WITH SIGN EXTENTION LGF R3,FULLWORD2 SAME WITH R3 AGR R2,R3 ADD TWO 64 BIT REGISTERS note. Do __NOT__ do: L R2,FULLWORD1 L R3,FULLWORD2 AGR R2,R3 In the above, the L to load loads only 32 bits and does not clear or sign extend the high order fullword of the registers. So that the AGR adds the 64 bit registers with the left over contents in the high words of R2 and R3. If you have a 32 bit value in a register, use the LGFR instruction to sign extend that value into the high word before doing 64 bit arithmetic. You can even LGFR Rx,Rx to sign extend a value into the same register. Also keep in mind that all GP registers on a z are 64 bits in size. It's just that some instructions do not disturb the high (or sometimes the low) fullword bits. In the past, on non-z equipment, I have done 64 bit arithmetic. L R2,FULLWORD1 SRDAR2,32 64 BIT VALUE IN R2/R3 L R4,FULLWORD2 SRDAR4,32 64 BIT VALUE IN R4/R5 ALR R4,R2 ADD HIGH WORD ALR R5,R3 ADD LOW WORD BNO AROUND NO OVERFLOW (CARRY) AL R4,=F'1'LOW WORD OVERFLOW - CARRY AROUND DS 0H -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3592 carts
FRANCIS SOUSA fds1...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlktim+krplz7szoajh2y6enmprno3rkvi6_he1f...@mail.gmail.com... HI Everyone, we had an ATL 3594, which was dismantled and the drives alongwith the control unit were used as a standalone device for carts to be used outside the ATL, so that the operators now have to mount the carts manually instead of the robot. The issue now is that the carts inside the ATL were SMS managed and unfortunately they were not removed from the ATL before it was dismantled, and neither was the location of the carts in RMM changed to shelf. so now we are stuck as these carts cannot be used outside the dismantled ATL, any attempt to change the location to SHELF fails cause the system still senses it as a sms managed cart and tries eject the cart, which fails as the ATL is dismantled, any idea how to resolve this problem, help appreciated Francis, First, do a DELETE VOLENT for all the tapes in that ATL, and if that was your only ATL, get rid of VOLCAT VGENERAL. You should be able to move the volumes in RMM with CV MANUALMOVE. As an aside, whoever dismantled your ATL without ejecting all the tapes first should be sued for incompetence. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Kevin, 1 and 2 for me, not 3. Regards, Tom Conley W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net wrote in message news:listserv%201103282301362978.0...@bama.ua.edu... I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: binary add
snip I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. /snip snip I wouldn't be too worried about using a CVD and AP for your total fields. /snip I would!. I once worked on a COBOL program with only display fields in the code. This program would peg a 158. When I changed the Working storage display fields to the appropriate internal representation, the program no longer registered. To make a long story short, *EVERY* subscript and data field that represented a number went through PACK, CVB, (operation), CVD, UNPACK, at least 4 times during the course of execution. BEWARE of CVD/CVB! To answer the original question, Perhaps using Floating point instructions (either Hex or IEEE) will help. However, I have no experience with the CXFR, (operation), CFXR sequence of instructions as far as CPU utilization is concerned. It seems to me a higher level language (SAS, ...) would be of more assistance HTH, snip I'm reading some SMF30 records and want to accumulate several 4 byte binary values (like CPU SU, IO SU, ...) for jobs which achieve the same criteria. But the summation grows over the 4 byte capacity (I use AR in Amode31). Is there a way to use 2 register for the summation. Or can I use Amode64-Code only for the addition. I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: binary add
Mike Schwab on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/29/2011 10:25:11 AM: You can use DFSORT SUM FIELDS to consolidate records. When adding two records together would overlow any output field, it will not consolidate those records and you end up with multiple records for the same key. You might be able to extend the fields with x'00' fillers in front, depending on how large a binary field it will allow. Or convert them to PD or ZD fields which allow 15 digits. DFSORT supports 8-byte binary values for SUM, so you could use INREC to extend the 4-byte binary values with 4 binary zeros on the left before SUMming to prevent overflow. Alternatively, you could use OUTFIL's SECTIONS with TRAILER3 and TOTAL. That way, you could add the 4-byte BI fields and get a larger BI, ZD or PD total without worrying about overflow. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, DATASORT, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: binary add
Monika, There is an important distinction between AMODE(64) and doubleword binary arithmetic in AMODE(31) routines. You may use AGR in an AMODE(31) routine if you make other changes mutatis mutandis. You will, for example, need a doubleword of storage for accumulating running totals from SMF record to SMF record, etc., etc.; and you will thus need to use the G versions of other familiar instructions too, but such changes will be obvious to you when you think about them. There is even an argument for using these G instructions when you don't need to do so; they are somewhat faster that their four-byte analogues. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: binary add
I wasn't suggesting to keep converting the data back and forth. She was looking to accumulate/total some counters. Convert the number to decimal and add it to a packed counter. No conversion back to binary required. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote: snip I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. /snip snip I wouldn't be too worried about using a CVD and AP for your total fields. /snip I would!. I once worked on a COBOL program with only display fields in the code. This program would peg a 158. When I changed the Working storage display fields to the appropriate internal representation, the program no longer registered. To make a long story short, *EVERY* subscript and data field that represented a number went through PACK, CVB, (operation), CVD, UNPACK, at least 4 times during the course of execution. BEWARE of CVD/CVB! To answer the original question, Perhaps using Floating point instructions (either Hex or IEEE) will help. However, I have no experience with the CXFR, (operation), CFXR sequence of instructions as far as CPU utilization is concerned. It seems to me a higher level language (SAS, ...) would be of more assistance HTH, snip I'm reading some SMF30 records and want to accumulate several 4 byte binary values (like CPU SU, IO SU, ...) for jobs which achieve the same criteria. But the summation grows over the 4 byte capacity (I use AR in Amode31). Is there a way to use 2 register for the summation. Or can I use Amode64-Code only for the addition. I fear to consume to much resources if I convert the data to decimal each time. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Restoring DFSMShsm migrated data set without active DFHSM?
Is it possible to restore a data set from a DFSMShsm migrated copy without having an active DFHSM subsystem. I know that hsm uses dss as the data mover, but apparently the migrated data set isn't in standard dss DUMP format because a dss RESTORE gets an INVALID INPUT message. Is there a way to extract the dss DUMP from whatever wrapper hsm has added? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
1 - Yes. 2 - Yes. 3 - We don't have any consoles defined in the IOCDS/IODF for NIP processing. All NIP stuff is done via the HMC System Console. For one, we'd like to see the HMC console operate more like the regular consoles. For example, not all WTOR's appear. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Yaeger Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY? Snipped In the SORT case, the COBOL E15 and COBOL E35 are NEVER active at the same time, so the tricks we play with the COBOL environment work ok and we can allow both exits. For a SORT, the input (E15) and output (E35) phases are performed separately. In the COPY case, the COBOL E15 and COBOL E35 are active at the same time, so the tricks we play with the COBOL environment won't work and we don't allow both exits. For a COPY, the input (E15) and output (E35) phases are combined. In the MERGE case, the E15 is actually ignored (MERGE uses an E32 for input, not an E15). That's as much detail as I can give you. Not being a COBOL guy, I couldn't explain the tricks even if I was allowed to. Thanks for the explanation Frank. *Sigh* I kinda figured it would be some such reason, even though I wouldn't have done it that way myself, thinking like the application programmer that I am. And thanks for the heads up about MERGE using E32. I didn't RTFM quite enough there and just *assumed* that a MERGE used E15. Related question: Can a plain C subroutine (LE-enabled, not MetalC or SP C) be used as a DFSORT exit routine? If so, what would the fourth exit parameter be set to? C like for COBOL, or N for none? -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Check TAPE Contents
Hello, We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work. Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ? Thanks, Sergio Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:14:28 -0700 From: barry.a.schw...@boeing.com Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu When attempting to examine an unknown tape, I use the IDCAMS PRINT command with the DUMP operand and specify RECFM=u and BLKSIZE=32760. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sergio Lima Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Check TAPE Contents Hello List, We have some tapes here, that came from another system, and then, We need look the contents of that. We know that DITTO with TP functions, can help us, but, unfortunatelly , our DITTO is not customized for use, and We can't found the DITTO INSTALLATION AND CUSTOMIZATION MANUAL. When try run the JOB : snip DIT0330I Not authorized for function Explanation: Your user ID is not authorized to use the function that you specified. User Response: If you need to use this function, contact your system support to enable your user ID for | this function or function group. Refer to the DITTO/ESA | Installation and Customization Guide. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Check TAPE Contents
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:04:18 +0300, Sergio Lima sergio...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work. Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ? Thanks, Sergio Not sure if this works or not, the date on the member is prior Y2K... //DITTOPROC LBL=BLP,VSER=XX,UNT=TAPE //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //UIN DD DISP=OLD, // DSN=FILE01, // UNIT=(UNT), // VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=VSER), // LABEL=(FN,LBL,,EXPDT=98000), //DCB=(BLKSIZE=32760,RECFM=U) //*DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=4050) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* // PEND //DITTO1 EXEC DITTO,VSER=000297,FN=01,LBL=BLP,UNT=ETAPE //SYSIN DD* PRINT INFILE(UIN) COUNT(20) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Restoring DFSMShsm migrated data set without active DFHSM?
Is it possible to restore a data set from a DFSMShsm migrated copy without having an active DFHSM subsystem. I know that hsm uses dss as the data mover, but apparently the migrated data set isn't in standard dss DUMP format because a dss RESTORE gets an INVALID INPUT message. Is there a way to extract the dss DUMP from whatever wrapper hsm has added? I am not sure, however, have you run the dump of the tape with a PARM='TYPERUN=SCAN (I think that is it) and just tried to restore all datasets? It is kind of a cheap mapping of what is on the tape. Perhaps you might recognize the dumped dsn and then use that for input? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
Peter Farley on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/29/2011 11:31:13 AM: Related question: Can a plain C subroutine (LE-enabled, not MetalC or SP C) be used as a DFSORT exit routine? If so, what would the fourth exit parameter be set to? C like for COBOL, or N for none? I'm an Assembler guy - I don't use C - so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. However, I suppose it depends on which type of exit parameter list C can take advantage of (if either). The Assembler exit lists are simple ones whereas the COBOL exit lists are more complex. Both are described in the DFSORT book here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA50/4.0?DT=20100630155256 You would use N in the MODS statement for a routine that uses the Assembler exit list, or C in the MODS statement for a routine that uses the COBOL exit list. Maybe somebody who actually uses C can give you a better answer. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Check TAPE Contents
If you have SAS software on site try the tapelablel procedure. //jobname JOB acct,name /*JOBPARM FETCH //TLABEL EXEC SAS //OURTAPE DD UNIT=TAPE,DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=MVSV9 //SYSIN DD * proc tapelabel ddname=ourtape; run; /* // -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:04:18 +0300, Sergio Lima sergio...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work. Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ? Thanks, Sergio Not sure if this works or not, the date on the member is prior Y2K... //DITTOPROC LBL=BLP,VSER=XX,UNT=TAPE //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //UIN DD DISP=OLD, // DSN=FILE01, // UNIT=(UNT), // VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=VSER), // LABEL=(FN,LBL,,EXPDT=98000), //DCB=(BLKSIZE=32760,RECFM=U) //*DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=4050) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* // PEND //DITTO1 EXEC DITTO,VSER=000297,FN=01,LBL=BLP,UNT=ETAPE //SYSIN DD* PRINT INFILE(UIN) COUNT(20) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? Yes we did 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? NO we have not. And I hope we won't. 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? NO we have local consoles defined Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Check TAPE Contents
If just want labels, I usually use IEBPTPCH. TAPEMAP and other
similar utilities read the entire tape.
This JCL will also print the EOF1 / EOF2 easily.
//TAPELBL JOB (ACCT),CLASS=A,...
//*
//MPROC PROC HP=1
//PS10 EXEC PGM=IEBPTPCH
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1 DD DSN=ZELDEN.TAPE,
// DISP=(SHR,KEEP,KEEP),
// UNIT=TAPE,
// LABEL=(HP,BLP,EXPDT=98000),
// VOL=SER=vv,
// DCB=(RECFM=F,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80)
//SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD DDNAME=SYSIN1
//MPROC PEND
//*
//* HP=1 FOR VOL1 HDR1 HDR2 *
//* HP=3 FOR EOF1 EOF2*
//*
//JS10 EXEC PROC=MPROC,HP=1
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN1 DD *
PRINT MAXFLDS=1
TITLE ITEM=('TAPE LABEL INFO',30)
RECORDFIELD=(80,1)
LABELSDATA=YES
/*
//
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:13:45 +, Brian Farley brian.far...@sas.com wrote:
If you have SAS software on site try the tapelablel procedure.
//jobname JOB acct,name
/*JOBPARM FETCH
//TLABEL EXEC SAS
//OURTAPE DD UNIT=TAPE,DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=MVSV9
//SYSIN DD *
proc tapelabel ddname=ourtape;
run;
/*
//
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Patrick Lyon
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:04:18 +0300, Sergio Lima sergio...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work.
Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ?
Thanks,
Sergio
Not sure if this works or not, the date on the member is prior Y2K...
//DITTOPROC LBL=BLP,VSER=XX,UNT=TAPE
//IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//UIN DD DISP=OLD,
// DSN=FILE01,
// UNIT=(UNT),
// VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=VSER),
// LABEL=(FN,LBL,,EXPDT=98000),
//DCB=(BLKSIZE=32760,RECFM=U)
//*DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=4050)
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
// PEND
//DITTO1 EXEC DITTO,VSER=000297,FN=01,LBL=BLP,UNT=ETAPE
//SYSIN DD*
PRINT INFILE(UIN) COUNT(20)
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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
On 3/28/2011 11:03 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote: I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? 1) Have not had to use it in a long time, but it is good to have a fall back. 2) Have consoles split across two OSA ICCs on a private network. Have not lost both OSA's or the network yet, but could happen. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
JMS and Z/os
Hello all, we are z/os v1.11. I was asked today if z/os could talk JMS and I wasn't sure how to answer that. I know we can use Java and that JMS means Java messaging service. Can anyone help me answer that question? Thanks == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JMS and Z/os
Mike, Usually, JMS is associated with a container. Of course WebSphere Application Server has it. It looks like Tomcat can support it. Most of the java containers have some sort of support for JMS. Perhaps you could answer if you already have some sort of messaging product? Like MQ or one of the others? Rob Schramm On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Hello all, we are z/os v1.11. I was asked today if z/os could talk JMS and I wasn't sure how to answer that. I know we can use Java and that JMS means Java messaging service. Can anyone help me answer that question? Thanks == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rob Schramm Senior Systems Engineer w: 513.305.6224 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
C supports normal assembler parameter lists. It's an option, PLIST(OS). Search the manuals for how it all works. As I recall you get a void** variable named _r1 that points to what you would expect R1 to point to. I would *guess* you could make it work but I am far from an expert on SORT exits. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Yaeger Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY? Peter Farley on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/29/2011 11:31:13 AM: Related question: Can a plain C subroutine (LE-enabled, not MetalC or SP C) be used as a DFSORT exit routine? If so, what would the fourth exit parameter be set to? C like for COBOL, or N for none? I'm an Assembler guy - I don't use C - so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. However, I suppose it depends on which type of exit parameter list C can take advantage of (if either). The Assembler exit lists are simple ones whereas the COBOL exit lists are more complex. Both are described in the DFSORT book here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA50/4.0?DT=2 0100630155256 You would use N in the MODS statement for a routine that uses the Assembler exit list, or C in the MODS statement for a routine that uses the COBOL exit list. Maybe somebody who actually uses C can give you a better answer. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JMS and Z/os
We have MQ V7 on the mainframe along with the brokers V7. What do you mean by containers? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JMS and Z/os Mike, Usually, JMS is associated with a container. Of course WebSphere Application Server has it. It looks like Tomcat can support it. Most of the java containers have some sort of support for JMS. Perhaps you could answer if you already have some sort of messaging product? Like MQ or one of the others? Rob Schramm On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Hello all, we are z/os v1.11. I was asked today if z/os could talk JMS and I wasn't sure how to answer that. I know we can use Java and that JMS means Java messaging service. Can anyone help me answer that question? Thanks == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rob Schramm Senior Systems Engineer w: 513.305.6224 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Check TAPE Contents
Show your JCL and control cards and the job log. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sergio Lima Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents Hello, We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work. Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
As I think about this -- am I missing something? I don't know much about the z sort programs but does a COPY function do what I would guess it does -- copy from the input to the output? Now you propose doing your own input and output? While you're at it, why not just tie one to the other -- could it be much more work than writing the exits themselves? -- and skip the sort program altogether? Or does SORT have some data processing options that you are going to use to massage the data during the copy? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY? I have a fairly simple application requirement to be able to use BOTH an E15 and an E35 exit in an OPTION COPY execution of SORT, but this is specifically disallowed (generates RC=16 message ICE161A from DFSORT and WER102A from SYNCSORT). If I use a MERGE FIELDS=(p,l,f,A) on a known ascending field (and the EQUALS option just for insurance that the record order is not disturbed) and use SORTIN01 for the input instead of SORTIN, it works just fine with both exits in COBOL. Can Mr. Yeager or some other SORT knowledgeable soul explain to me why this simple and straightforward use of SORT exits in a COPY operation is specifically forbidden? It simply makes no sense to me whatsoever. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JMS and Z/os
Websphere, tomcat, weblogic, glassfish, geronimo, jboss .. J2EE type containers... which usually have a bunch of built-in services. The initial support for MQ in websphere JMS (going back a ways 4.x) was kinda tacked on Of course it really depends on how you are thinking to use it? For example.. a WAS sitting out on Unix could have JMS using MQ which sends it to z/OS MQ where CICS is picking off and processing messages. Rob Schramm On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: We have MQ V7 on the mainframe along with the brokers V7. What do you mean by containers? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JMS and Z/os Mike, Usually, JMS is associated with a container. Of course WebSphere Application Server has it. It looks like Tomcat can support it. Most of the java containers have some sort of support for JMS. Perhaps you could answer if you already have some sort of messaging product? Like MQ or one of the others? Rob Schramm On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Hello all, we are z/os v1.11. I was asked today if z/os could talk JMS and I wasn't sure how to answer that. I know we can use Java and that JMS means Java messaging service. Can anyone help me answer that question? Thanks == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rob Schramm Senior Systems Engineer w: 513.305.6224 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rob Schramm Senior Systems Engineer w: 513.305.6224 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JMS and Z/os
JMS is not a container-related API per se. It is a standard Java API (http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=914) that deals with asynchronous messaging. WebSphere MQ (which is completely distinct from WebSphere AS - the container) has a JMS interface, as do other commercial and free JMS compliant products. With WebSphere MQ, you can either use the JMS API or you can use WebSphere's proprietary Java API which gives you more functionality and control (at the cost of portability). If you have WebSphere MQ on z/OS, you can use either JMS or the WMQ Java API from your Java applications and can be accessed from any Java application on z/OS - including Java running under WebSphere AS, batch, CICS, IMS, etc. Even if you don't have a WMQ Server running on z/OS, I believe that you can use a Java JMS client to connect to a WMQ server (aka queue manager) on another box. But I'm not a WMQ expert - it could be that you need to license a client product/feature on z/OS to enable this, so check with your friendly IBM rep for details. Decent references: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_WebSphere_MQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Message_Service Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Wow! I am overwhelmed with the response so far. THANK YOU! For those of you that I haven't heard from, PLEASE POST -- this was not a casual query; decisions will be made on it. W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JMS and Z/os
I stand altered. vbg I brought up the container .. because that is where I have seen it used most. but I thought I would add... http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.mq.mqovervw.doc/mq50032_.htm Rob Schramm On Mar 29, 2011 7:10 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: JMS is not a container-related API per se. It is a standard Java API (http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=914) that deals with asynchronous messaging. WebSphere MQ (which is completely distinct from WebSphere AS - the container) has a JMS interface, as do other commercial and free JMS compliant products. With WebSphere MQ, you can either use the JMS API or you can use WebSphere's proprietary Java API which gives you more functionality and control (at the cost of portability). If you have WebSphere MQ on z/OS, you can use either JMS or the WMQ Java API from your Java applications and can be accessed from any Java application on z/OS - including Java running under WebSphere AS, batch, CICS, IMS, etc. Even if you don't have a WMQ Server running on z/OS, I believe that you can use a Java JMS client to connect to a WMQ server (aka queue manager) on another box. But I'm not a WMQ expert - it could be that you need to license a client product/feature on z/OS to enable this, so check with your friendly IBM rep for details. Decent references: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_WebSphere_MQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Message_Service Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3592 carts
This might be helpful http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss? uid=isg3S1001830. Regards, Kevin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3592 carts
At 13:42 -0400 on 03/29/2011, Pinnacle wrote about Re: 3592 carts: As an aside, whoever dismantled your ATL without ejecting all the tapes first should be sued for incompetence. While I agree, I would also like to point out in their defense that doing an eject is a time consuming process. Depending on how many tapes are in the library, it can take hours to get them all out via the Eject route. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Restoring DFSMShsm migrated data set without active DFHSM?
I have no idea why you got this requirement anyway it's a dfhsm recovery scenario and look like needed help from ibm.you might be needed to enable patches etc which are recommended by IBM...Like below manual does have some dfhsm recovery scenario.. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp? topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.idas200/hr1024.htm On the other hand question goes did you try with the recover option from backup since it's a ml2 there should be a backup copy created as well and if so look in the above manual there's a way to recover dataset from the dfdss backup...interesting question nevertheless. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
On 3/29/2011 00:01, W. Kevin Kelley wrote: I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html 1). Yes. z/VM and z/OS 2). Yes. 3). No. Regards, Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zHPF and mixed channels
Radoslaw, my understanding is that zHPF is negotiated between z/OS and the DSS CU if all the channels in the path group are FEx2 or FEx4. So, if this is the case, then I/O between that z/OS LPAR and that CU can use zHPF. So, my take on Q1 is that the host that has FEx2/FEx4 will be able to use zHPF and the other host will not be able to. In Q2, the Host can negotiate a zHPF connection to one DASD and not to the other. These are only my expectations and I would be interested in your findings - especially if they are different. SMF 73 (RMF Channel stats) will give you some nice information on how many I/Os are using transport mode. SMF 74.5 (Rank statistics) will give you detailed zHPF information per device (starting with z/OS 1.12) (probably Vendor DSS specific). John Quotation from some IBM TechDoc: zHPF is supported on FICON Express2 (FEx2) and FICON Express4 (FEx4) channels. It is not supported on FICON Express channels. I/Os executed on path groups with a mix of FICON Express and FICON Express2 or FICON Express4 channels in the same path group will not be eligible to convert to zHPF. For zHPF, all the channels in the same channel path group have to be FEx2 or FEx4. The above is clear in scenario with one host and one CU. What about many-to-many scenarios? Q1: The following scenario: two host connected to single CU, via switch. Same channel adapter in CU. One host is zHPF capable, the other is not (FICON Express 1). Will zHPF work between CU and first host? Q2: Another scenario: zHPF-capable host connected via switch to two different DASD boxes. First DASD is zHPF-capable, the second is not. Both DASDs are connected to the same CHPIDs. Will zHPF be used for communication between host and first CU? Any clue? Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
