Re: 3592 carts
Francis, RMM really doesnt care where a tape is when you use it. The location that rmm records is not used by the system when determining where to mount the volume - only at return to scratch time by rmm to decide whether to make the request via OAM or simply update the rmm cds. So, in order to use the cartridges you need the system to know the are no longer in an SMS managed library. If this was your only SMS managed library, export disconnect the volcat(s). If you have other SMS managed libraries you will have to use IDCAMS to delete the volume records and also remove the library record from the VGENERAL volcat. This change should allow private volume to now be used stand-alone. To ensure rmm has the correct location name, once the above volcat change is done, you can issue RMM CV volser LOCATION(SHELF) FORCE this should update rmm to correct the location to SHELF. See here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2c880/7.1.5?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0IDT=20090527133850 Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
:Sorry - now it looks like using TCBJLB does work... BLDL gives success. I must :have done something wrong before... Thanks! :What remains now is to find the DDname TCBJLB is pointing to. DCBTIOT. Thank you again but I am afraid this is a little too terse for me to understand... How do I get from the TCBJLB to DCBTIOT, and from there to the TIOT? All my attempts and googling failed thus far. From what I have found in the documentation and google, I think DCBTIOT is at offset 40 from TCBJLB. At that place should be an 2 byte offset, which is an offset to the TIOT. But offset from where? From TCBJLB? or from PSATOLD- TIOENTRY ? Both don't seem to be it... If you could help me with this, that would be great. Thanks, Etienne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FTP question
Hi, One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. z/OS is the server. The client is windows. Is this possible? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Hi Kevin, option 3 - use HMC for IPL and NIP...nice to be on one screen. MVS messages on perviosly activated sysplex SMCS screen (usually) else HMC until SMCS available. I have removed NIP Consolesno hardware and that gets rid all those PINned devices. and no money to buy OSA-ICC devices.why bother. On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:01:36 -0500, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net wrote: I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development Regards Bruce Hewson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
Sure, using FTP exits. ITschak 2011/3/31 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com Hi, One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. z/OS is the server. The client is windows. Is this possible? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
I tought it will fail when not using the '(replace'. 2011/3/31 Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com Sure, using FTP exits. ITschak 2011/3/31 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com Hi, One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. z/OS is the server. The client is windows. Is this possible? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator.
Re: FTP question
Replace works when z/OS is the client. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Matan Cohen Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP question I tought it will fail when not using the '(replace'. 2011/3/31 Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com Sure, using FTP exits. ITschak 2011/3/31 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com Hi, One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. z/OS is the server. The client is windows. Is this possible? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:56:39 +0300 ??? ?? ??? gad...@malam.com wrote: :One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. :z/OS is the server. :The client is windows. :Is this possible? Try a GET first, and if no data obtained ... An MVS server will require REPLACE if the dataset exists -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 03:45:58 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl wrote: ::Sorry - now it looks like using TCBJLB does work... BLDL gives success. I :must ::have done something wrong before... Thanks! ::What remains now is to find the DDname TCBJLB is pointing to. :DCBTIOT. :Thank you again but I am afraid this is a little too terse for me to :understand... How do I get from the TCBJLB to DCBTIOT, and from there to :the TIOT? All my attempts and googling failed thus far. :From what I have found in the documentation and google, I think DCBTIOT is :at offset 40 from TCBJLB. At that place should be an 2 byte offset, which is :an offset to the TIOT. But offset from where? From TCBJLB? or from PSATOLD- :TIOENTRY ? Both don't seem to be it... :If you could help me with this, that would be great. TCBJLB points to a DCB. TCBTIOA points to the TIOT DCBTIOT is the offset in the TIOT for the opened DCB. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EZBTIINI dynamically loaded ?
thanks very much for taking the time to answer my question. Chris, thanks very much for taking the time to answer my question. The Share presentation 6865, (Boston, 2010) from A.Christensen provide the explanation which I expected to find in the Communication Server bookshelf at z/OS 1.11 level. Or in the z/OS 1.11 migration guide, since loading EZBTIINI into ECSA using dynamic LPA functions is new since z/OS 1.11, and wasn't there at z/OS 1.9 level. I used Google, but wasn't smart enough to look at page 2, where the link to Christensen's presentation was. I apologise for this. I pay always attention at what the HealthChecker tells me, especially when I IPL a new z/OS level. In this case, I wanted to know whether the alarm caused by msg CSVH1001E for Dynamic LPA changes was justified or not. Now I know it was not, because this is the way TCP/IP at 1.11 level works. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
TCBJLB points to a DCB. TCBTIOA points to the TIOT DCBTIOT is the offset in the TIOT for the opened DCB. I can't find anything on TCBTIOA, I think you mean TCBTIO ? And, I know DCBTIOT is an offset, but From Where? The start of the TIOT ? That gives me nothing. From TCBTIO-TIOENTRY ? That also doesn't work... So, from where is this offset counted? Thanks, Etienne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 05:38:33 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl wrote: :TCBJLB points to a DCB. :TCBTIOA points to the TIOT :DCBTIOT is the offset in the TIOT for the opened DCB. :I can't find anything on TCBTIOA, I think you mean TCBTIO ? Yep. :And, I know DCBTIOT is an offset, but From Where? The start of the TIOT ? Yes. :That gives me nothing. From TCBTIO-TIOENTRY ? That also doesn't work... :So, from where is this offset counted? What do you see? The DDNAME is not at the start. Show your code. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zHPF and mixed channels
Martin, Thank you for the explanation. I am aware of the requirements, like microcode for FICON cards, z/OS, and license and microcode for DASD box. BTW: I'm talking about VMAX with 5875.135 From your words I understand that zHPF mode is chosen at I/O level - some I/O's from the same host can be non-HPF, or even at the same time the other host (non-HPF capable) can talk to the DASD CU as well. Am I right? Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2011-03-30 14:18, Martin Feeney pisze: In order for zHPF to work, there are a series of conditions that must ALL be true. The conditions include support on the host side (channel support as well as z/OS) and support on the CU (at the Extended Link Services level as well as the device [Read Features Code] level). If *any* one of these conditions is not true, zHPF will not be used. These conditions have to be true for ALL paths in the path group to a given device. Thus: Q1: The following scenario: two host connected to single CU, via switch. Same channel adapter in CU. One host is zHPF capable, the other is not (FICON Express 1). Will zHPF work between CU and first host? Yes. The switch doesn't play into the equation. If the first host (channel and z/OS) and the CU both support zHPF, the device is enabled for zHPF. Q2: Another scenario: zHPF-capable host connected via switch to two different DASD boxes. First DASD is zHPF-capable, the second is not. Both DASDs are connected to the same CHPIDs. Will zHPF be used for communication between host and first CU? Yes. Again because the host and CU are both zHPF capable, zHPF can be used. The two boxes are viewed independently or zHPF purposes. Note: There only certain types of I/O operations are zHPF capable. The feature will only be used if a zHPF capable driver (e.g. Media Manager) is being used. Thus, even with zHPF enabled, you may not see a lot of zHPF I/O. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: R.S. [mailto:r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:34 AM Subject: zHPF and mixed channels Quotation from some IBM TechDoc: zHPF is supported on FICON Express2 (FEx2) and FICON Express4 (FEx4) channels. It is not supported on FICON Express channels. I/Os executed on path groups with a mix of FICON Express and FICON Express2 or FICON Express4 channels in the same path group will not be eligible to convert to zHPF. For zHPF, all the channels in the same channel path group have to be FEx2 or FEx4. The above is clear in scenario with one host and one CU. What about many-to-many scenarios? Q1: The following scenario: two host connected to single CU, via switch. Same channel adapter in CU. One host is zHPF capable, the other is not (FICON Express 1). Will zHPF work between CU and first host? Q2: Another scenario: zHPF-capable host connected via switch to two different DASD boxes. First DASD is zHPF-capable, the second is not. Both DASDs are connected to the same CHPIDs. Will zHPF be used for communication between host and first CU? Any clue? Regards -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 16.07.2010 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.248.328 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send
Re: NPIV question
So, as long as they aren't connected prior to configuration for NPIV, it really won't matter who enables it first. Right? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: NPIV question On 3/30/2011 at 02:13 PM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: My question is: Should the cable be connected to the z10 and the switch prior to either the switch and z10 being configured for NPIV? ? and if not, why does it matter if I enable it first? Having the cable there first isn't necessary. The reason you want to do it on the switch first is that if the HBA (your FICON card) tries to talk NPIV to the switch and the switch says I don't think so, it won't work until after the switch is reconfigured and your FICON card varied completely offline and back on. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EZBTIINI dynamically loaded ?
I don't know anything about EZBTIINI, but the reference to dynamic is dynamic LPA. I.e., this module is not made part of LPA via such mechanisms as LPALST, MLPA, or FLPA but is added by the dynamic LPA facility (CSVDYLPA macro or SETPROG LPA,ADD command or LPA ADD statement in PROGxx) I suppose among the realm of possibly (but very unlikely) is that it was placed in common storage by the application and control blocks dummied up to make it look like it was added by dynamic LPA. Having said that, one reason why this sort of thing occurs is when an LPA part moves from having been in a PDS to being in a PDSE (one hopes that when that happens it's not an accident, but that there's some functional reason why it needed to be a program object in a PDSE). Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
We use the followings steps Del targetfilename.$TMP$ Put sourcefilename targetfiname.$TMP$ If the put is RC 0 then the dataset is complete Ren targetfilename.$TMP$ realtargetname The rename is atomic, and will fails if the real target dataset exist on evry platform -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Hi, One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. z/OS is the server. The client is windows. Is this possible? Omitting the (REPLACE keyword from the PUT command doesn't work?? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:02:09 +0200, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 05:38:33 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl wrote: :TCBJLB points to a DCB. :TCBTIOA points to the TIOT :DCBTIOT is the offset in the TIOT for the opened DCB. :I can't find anything on TCBTIOA, I think you mean TCBTIO ? Yep. :And, I know DCBTIOT is an offset, but From Where? The start of the TIOT ? Yes. :That gives me nothing. From TCBTIO-TIOENTRY ? That also doesn't work... :So, from where is this offset counted? What do you see? The DDNAME is not at the start. Show your code. Finally, I am there! Thanks to your answer, I took another look at how I added the offset to the start of the TIOT and I spotted a mistake, an that shouldn't be there. So I was adding to the address of the variable that contained the TIOT, not the TIOT itself (its a C program). Having removed it, now I do get the right TIOT, with indeed the DDname in it that I need. Thanks for your help, Etienne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
On 3/31/2011 6:38 AM, Etienne Thijsse wrote: And, I know DCBTIOT is an offset, but From Where? The start of the TIOT ? That gives me nothing. From TCBTIO-TIOENTRY ? That also doesn't work... So, from where is this offset counted? TCB is a 16-bit unsigned offset from the address in TCBTIO. If the DD name is blank, you need to scan through the TIOT entries (ignore voided entries) until the last non-blank entry prior to your offset. The JFCB address (minus 16 bytes) is obtained from the TIOT entry in TIOEJFCB after that's fed into an SWAREG macro (also possible without the macro, but even messier). Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zHPF and mixed channels
Is given chpid or CU port able to work in HPF and non-HPF mode simultaneously? Yes, a given CHPID and/or CU port can process Command Mode (legacy FICON) I/O as well as Transport Mode (zHPF) I/O concurrently. In fact, if Media Manager encounters an error in a zHPF I/O, it retries in Command Mode. Martin -Original Message- From: R.S. [mailto:r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:42 AM Subject: Re: zHPF and mixed channels John, Thank you for the explanation. In fact my both questions can be rephrased to the following: Is given chpid or CU port able to work in HPF and non-HPF mode simultaneously? Your expectations (and mine too) are that yes. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2011-03-30 06:36, John Ticic pisze: Radoslaw, my understanding is that zHPF is negotiated between z/OS and the DSS CU if all the channels in the path group are FEx2 or FEx4. So, if this is the case, then I/O between that z/OS LPAR and that CU can use zHPF. So, my take on Q1 is that the host that has FEx2/FEx4 will be able to use zHPF and the other host will not be able to. In Q2, the Host can negotiate a zHPF connection to one DASD and not to the other. These are only my expectations and I would be interested in your findings - especially if they are different. SMF 73 (RMF Channel stats) will give you some nice information on how many I/Os are using transport mode. SMF 74.5 (Rank statistics) will give you detailed zHPF information per device (starting with z/OS 1.12) (probably Vendor DSS specific). John Quotation from some IBM TechDoc: zHPF is supported on FICON Express2 (FEx2) and FICON Express4 (FEx4) channels. It is not supported on FICON Express channels. I/Os executed on path groups with a mix of FICON Express and FICON Express2 or FICON Express4 channels in the same path group will not be eligible to convert to zHPF. For zHPF, all the channels in the same channel path group have to be FEx2 or FEx4. The above is clear in scenario with one host and one CU. What about many-to-many scenarios? Q1: The following scenario: two host connected to single CU, via switch. Same channel adapter in CU. One host is zHPF capable, the other is not (FICON Express 1). Will zHPF work between CU and first host? Q2: Another scenario: zHPF-capable host connected via switch to two different DASD boxes. First DASD is zHPF-capable, the second is not. Both DASDs are connected to the same CHPIDs. Will zHPF be used for communication between host and first CU? Any clue? Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 16.07.2010 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.248.328 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
Just to throw in one possible wrench. I don't know anything about your environment and the environment that your routine will be invoked in. However, one problem that is not addressed is what if your program is invoked via a LINK macro with the DCB= parameter pointing to a user opened DCB? I don't think your current code will work in this scenario. Backchaining to determine this may be quite interesting since there is no real indication passed to your routine that it occurred. Or, even worse, suppose your routine is brought into storage via a LOAD macro with the DCB= parameter, but your routine is later actually called via a BALR/BASR? I'm curious why you need to do all this work. Why won't a simple C fetch function work for you? It will load from the standard search order. I really don't see what all this chaining gets you. Of course, I'm not really a developer. I'm a sysprog who knows some programming (fairly good breadth, but not very deep). -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Etienne Thijsse Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:02:09 +0200, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 05:38:33 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl wrote: :TCBJLB points to a DCB. :TCBTIOA points to the TIOT :DCBTIOT is the offset in the TIOT for the opened DCB. :I can't find anything on TCBTIOA, I think you mean TCBTIO ? Yep. :And, I know DCBTIOT is an offset, but From Where? The start of the TIOT ? Yes. :That gives me nothing. From TCBTIO-TIOENTRY ? That also doesn't work... :So, from where is this offset counted? What do you see? The DDNAME is not at the start. Show your code. Finally, I am there! Thanks to your answer, I took another look at how I added the offset to the start of the TIOT and I spotted a mistake, an that shouldn't be there. So I was adding to the address of the variable that contained the TIOT, not the TIOT itself (its a C program). Having removed it, now I do get the right TIOT, with indeed the DDname in it that I need. Thanks for your help, Etienne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bernard Coeytaux Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP question We use the followings steps Del targetfilename.$TMP$ Put sourcefilename targetfiname.$TMP$ If the put is RC 0 then the dataset is complete Ren targetfilename.$TMP$ realtargetname The rename is atomic, and will fails if the real target dataset exist on evry platform This works and I think it is the only way to do the noreplace in a generic, general, manner. Unfortunately it does not avoid the file upload entirely and so still takes as long as replacing. Another possible problem is that the z/OS step will exit with a non-zero RC if the file exists when using the '(EXIT' parameter, because the ren fails. Of course, the del could also fail and, with (EXIT, that would terminate your ftp step prematurely. z/OS really needs a better ftp client. I wish we had one that is scriptable much like IDCAMS is scriptable. No, don't ask me to write it. If I did, it would likely be in REXX. And I'd likely get in trouble from my management for wasting MSUs. We are sensitive to MSU usage. My boss monitors it because it directly impacts his software budget. And, from what I can tell, upper management has a visceral desire to eliminate IT spending altogether. Of course, at their level, they want to eliminate all spending other than their salaries. Yes, I'm very cynical. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
There exists REXX for PC (Reginald, OOREXX, etc) in the windows environment. I would code a REXX script which would issue an FTP and DIR then check for the files existence. If not exist then FTP put. That is if the Windows initiates FTP. If z/OS initiates FTP the do reverse with REXX script. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:34 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bernard Coeytaux Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP question We use the followings steps Del targetfilename.$TMP$ Put sourcefilename targetfiname.$TMP$ If the put is RC 0 then the dataset is complete Ren targetfilename.$TMP$ realtargetname The rename is atomic, and will fails if the real target dataset exist on evry platform This works and I think it is the only way to do the noreplace in a generic, general, manner. Unfortunately it does not avoid the file upload entirely and so still takes as long as replacing. Another possible problem is that the z/OS step will exit with a non-zero RC if the file exists when using the '(EXIT' parameter, because the ren fails. Of course, the del could also fail and, with (EXIT, that would terminate your ftp step prematurely. z/OS really needs a better ftp client. I wish we had one that is scriptable much like IDCAMS is scriptable. No, don't ask me to write it. If I did, it would likely be in REXX. And I'd likely get in trouble from my management for wasting MSUs. We are sensitive to MSU usage. My boss monitors it because it directly impacts his software budget. And, from what I can tell, upper management has a visceral desire to eliminate IT spending altogether. Of course, at their level, they want to eliminate all spending other than their salaries. Yes, I'm very cynical. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Those who can make you believe religious absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. Denis Diderot Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. Denis Diderot -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
TCB is a 16-bit unsigned offset from the address in TCBTIO. If the DD name is blank, you need to scan through the TIOT entries (ignore voided entries) until the last non-blank entry prior to your offset. The JFCB address (minus 16 bytes) is obtained from the TIOT entry in TIOEJFCB after that's fed into an SWAREG macro (also possible without the macro, but even messier). Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT Ah, that is another piece of useful information, I didn't know the DDname could be blank. Thank you, Etienne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
1. yes 2. never 3. yes, but are secondary devices, OSC-ICC devices are NIP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Forgot about that one... our SADump build is coded with SYSC only. Art On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:08:11 -0500, Field, Alan C. alan.c.fi...@supervalu.com wrote: 1 - Not necessarily for emergencies. Use it for SAD, which could be considered an emergency :) ... Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 23:02 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Kevin Kelley Asked: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? -- Yes 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? -- Yes 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? -- Nope. Cheers,,,Steve Steven F. Conway, CISSP LA Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
On 3/28/2011 9:01 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? 1) Never, but used for SADUMP.Never until recently... bringing up two new data centers for the first time and HMC console was used for initial IPLs while all the OSA-ICC definitions / cabling was being worked out. 2) Don't think we've ever needed to do that. 3) N/A. We use OSA-ICC and used 2074s prior to using ICC. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ *** Please note the new URL for Mark's MVS Utilities *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zIIPs and zAAPs
In 4d92c406.5030...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 03/29/2011 at 10:47 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said: In light of these restrictions, I suppose one could argue that more difficult programming means less stable programs. Otherwise, there is little difference in 'security' or 'integrity' between the two modes. Errors in key 8 problem state code are a lot less likely to cause outages, even if it is AC(1). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
In listserv%201103300935022609.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 03/30/2011 at 09:35 AM, Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl said: I need my C program to start another program that is in the same load library. To discover the name of this load library, I use BLDL to get a concatenation number in STEPLIB or JOBLIB, and RDJFCB with DDname STEPLIB or JOBLIB to get the name from these lists. Don't forget tasklib[1]. That can be an issue for batch, not just for foreground TSO. This works fine in batch. Now I would like to do the same under TSO. I thought I could use the TSO command TSOLIB to set STEPLIB, but no, BLDL returns error 4, so apparently STEPLIB was not set correctly. TSOLIB does not reallocate STEPLIB; it simply tells the TMP what libraries top use for a tasklib. [1] Facility, not ddname -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:28:54 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Just to throw in one possible wrench. I don't know anything about your environment and the environment that your routine will be invoked in. However, one problem that is not addressed is what if your program is invoked via a LINK macro with the DCB= parameter pointing to a user opened DCB? I don't think your current code will work in this scenario. Backchaining to determine this may be quite interesting since there is no real indication passed to your routine that it occurred. Or, even worse, suppose your routine is brought into storage via a LOAD macro with the DCB= parameter, but your routine is later actually called via a BALR/BASR? Thanks for pointing this out. We plan to support only a few ways of invoking it: under USS on the commandline, in batch mode with an explicit STEPLIB or JOBLIB specification, and under TSO on the commandline where the use of TSOLIB will be required. (Once I know more about started tasks I may add that to the list too, but at the moment I don't know enough about that.) So, using the LINK macro in some user program to start the program is something that we will noty be supporting. I can't think of a reason why someone would want to do this anyway... it is kind of a deamon process that waits for requests, and once one comes in, starts another program in the same loadlib to handle the request. I'm curious why you need to do all this work. Why won't a simple C fetch function work for you? It will load from the standard search order. I really don't see what all this chaining gets you. Of course, I'm not really a developer. I'm a sysprog who knows some programming (fairly good breadth, but not very deep). Since the program needs to start this other program that is in the same loadlib, it needs to know its own loadlib. The program must get its own address space, so I don't think fetch qualifies. Also, this second program needs to know its loadlib too, it will use the prefix of the loadlib to find other datasets belonging to the installation of our software. It is not started with JCL, so DD specifications can't be used for this; it must allocate the DDnames itself. And, actually, this is not that much work, its just that I have to learn all these details, once tou know them it is simple. Thanks, Etienne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:13:28 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: Don't forget tasklib[1]. That can be an issue for batch, not just for foreground TSO. All I have been able to find thus far is that TASKLIB is a parameter of the ATTACH macro, nothing on how to 'get it'. I think JCL's always have a STEPLIB and/or JOBLIB specification, or am I mistaken? TSOLIB does not reallocate STEPLIB; it simply tells the TMP what libraries top use for a tasklib. I have TSOLIB now covered by using TCBJLB, DCBTIOT etc. So, if TSOLIB is modifying TASKLIB, then TCBJLB is actually this TASKLIB ? If so, then that is now covered for batch too, right? Thanks, Etienne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
I will say we mirror what Barbara has stated, but that our IOC (operations) has a product called IO/Concepts that we funnel console traffic thru, otherwise IOC and Sysprogs use the HMC excessively for IPLs, not just in emergencies. Thanks Ms. Terri E. Shaffer terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com Engineer J.P.Morgan Chase Co. GTI DCT ECS Core Services zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies Office: # 614-213-3467 Cell: # 412-519-2592 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'll stay out of 2, but 1 and certainly 3 definitely apply to us. Since our office building is now quite a ways away from the actual hardware, us sysprogs routinely use the HMC both for IPL and to issue some commands. Also, we routinely swap lpars from one box to the other, meaning that 'the consoles' need to have their appropriate 3270 pcomm session (different IP address AFAIK) started. Until they're up, HMC is the only means of communication from here. The test sysplex doesn't have a console anymore. Well, there are some consoles defined for that, but those sessions are never open. So the only way to IPL is the HMC. One of them happens to be right here in our office. Regards, Barbara 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
Since no one has mentioned this, it probably won't work on z/OS, but on the Windows based FTP server we use (Gene6), if the user has access to PUT a file but does not have access to DELETE a file, a PUT fails if the file already exists. This is because if the file already exists the FTP server needs to delete it. So if the user does not have delete access the put fails. I don't have any way to test this on z/OS, but someone might want to try it. Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 On 3/31/2011 at 1:56 AM, in message c11ded818b17214792b97fba28712bed04fa69c...@jer-email1.jer.ad.malam.com, ??? ?? ??? gad...@malam.com wrote: Hi, One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. z/OS is the server. The client is windows. Is this possible? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP question Since no one has mentioned this, it probably won't work on z/OS, but on the Windows based FTP server we use (Gene6), if the user has access to PUT a file but does not have access to DELETE a file, a PUT fails if the file already exists. This is because if the file already exists the FTP server needs to delete it. So if the user does not have delete access the put fails. I don't have any way to test this on z/OS, but someone might want to try it. Frank -- Frank Swarbrick DELETE would require ALTER access for the dataset. However, PUT would only require UPDATE. So it would be possible for a user to PUT to an existing z/OS dataset, but not to PUT if the dataset did not exist. But the OP wants the opposite. They want the PUT to fail if it already exists but succeed if it does not. I wonder if SUNIQUE or RUNIQUE would give them what they want. What that does is create a unique dataset name if the specified dataset already exists, so it is not replaced. But I think that is still not what is wanted. What appears to be wanted is to not bother doing the PUT at all if the dataset already exists. ftp does not really have this capability. In this case, I do a two step ftp. //TEST EXEC PGM=FTP,PARM='(EXIT' //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUT DD * IP USERID PASSWORD LS REMOTE.FILE /* //PUT EXEC PGM=FTP,PARM='(EXIT',COND=(0,EQ,TEST) //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUT DD * IP USERID PASSWORD PUT LOCAL.FILE REMOTE.FILE /* // -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
This is certainly possible if you use our free Co:Z SFTP server on z/OS. This would also have the benefit of being secure and sftp uses a single ssh port (22) which is more firewall/nat router friendly than FTP. The windows client could use PuTTY's psftp command, like this: C:\ psftp user@zos psftp ls /+noreplace psftp ls /+recfm=fb,lrecl=121,space=cyl.3.1 psftp put local.txt //HLQ.DATASET psftp quit The put would fail if the dataset already exists. See the PuTTY psftp documentation for using psftp with a batch script. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com 2011/3/31 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com Hi, One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. z/OS is the server. The client is windows. Is this possible? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
[no subject]
Has anyone had experience changing Changeman PDSs to PDSEs? John R. Whitehair MVS Systems Programmer Forethought Financial Services 812-933-6730 (office) john.whiteh...@forethought.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3592 carts
At 03:36 -0500 on 03/31/2011, Mike Wood wrote about Re: 3592 carts: To ensure rmm has the correct location name, once the above volcat change is done, you can issue RMM CV volser LOCATION(SHELF) FORCE this should update rmm to correct the location to SHELF. To created the needed commands, I have found that using an Assembler Macro that issues PUNCH commands to output the command is useful. You just have the macro loop a volser counter to create the command text. So long as there is a compact volser range this is enough to create the individual commands needed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
If you are using SAS for Windows, UNIX or whatever platform you can use FILENAME ddname FTP statement to check if a dataset exists, and to write directly to datasets on the mainframe without using the typical FTP line commands. I've used edited copies of working code. The second example could be something as simple as: Data _null_; Infile jclgen; File jclftp; Input @; Put _infile_; Return; Run; Sample code follows: ***; *** Get a listing of all the PAIO logs datasets and store in a ***; *** SAS file, ***; ***; filename dir ftp '' ls user='userid' debug host='111.222.333.444' PASS='password' cd='HLQ..IODRIVER.TESTID..' ; data paio_logfiles; infiledir length=ll stopover; input llq $varying8. ll @; ifllq=:'LOG'; dsname =HLQ..IODRIVER.||TESTID..||llq; output; run; ***; *** Allocate the dataset that will contain the modified ***; *** JCL to be executed on the mainframe. ***; *** ***; *** NB the ENCODING=EBCDIC037 is required so that EBCDIC ***; *** characters are written to the file***; ***; FILENAME JCLFTP CLEAR; FILENAME jclftp FTP 'HLQ.iodriver.prof..jclgen' HOST='111.222.333.444' USER='userid' PASS=password LRECL=80 RCMD='SITE RDW' recfm=f ENCODING=EBCDIC037; ***; *** Post process JCLGEN.JCL ***; *** === ***; ***; data jcl; infilejclgen length=l stopover; file jclftp; input @; ifl10 then do; put_infile_; return; end; input @3 jcl $8. @; ifjcl=:'VSP' then do; input @6 num2. @; end; ifjcl=:NJOBS08 then do; put @1 //NJOBS04 DD DUMMY; return; end; if0=num=3then do; put_infile_; put@1 /*XEQ N1; return; end; else if 4=num=7 then do; put_infile_; put@1 /*XEQ N2; return; end; put _infile_; return; run; -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] FTP question There exists REXX for PC (Reginald, OOREXX, etc) in the windows environment. I would code a REXX script which would issue an FTP and DIR then check for the files existence. If not exist then FTP put. That is if the Windows initiates FTP. If z/OS initiates FTP the do reverse with REXX script. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:34 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bernard Coeytaux Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP question We use the followings steps Del targetfilename.$TMP$ Put sourcefilename targetfiname.$TMP$ If the put is RC 0 then the dataset is complete Ren targetfilename.$TMP$ realtargetname The rename is atomic, and will fails if the real target dataset exist on evry platform This works and I think it is the only way to do the noreplace in a generic, general, manner. Unfortunately it does not avoid the file upload entirely and so still takes as long as replacing. Another possible problem is that the z/OS step will exit with a non-zero RC if the file exists when using the '(EXIT' parameter, because the ren fails. Of course, the del could also fail and, with (EXIT, that would terminate your ftp step prematurely. z/OS really needs a better ftp client. I wish we had one that is scriptable much like IDCAMS is scriptable. No, don't ask me to write it. If I did, it would likely be in REXX. And I'd likely get in trouble from my management for wasting MSUs. We are sensitive to MSU usage. My boss monitors it because it directly impacts his software budget. And, from what I can
SMF EXITS in effect - which are they?
Does anyone know a way to determine exactly which exits SMF is taking? D SMF,O shows which exits are supposed to be being taken, but we have a disagreement as to what happens when there is a SYS list, and a SUBSYS TSO list that is different. My reading of the manual is that whatever is in SYS is in effect unless changed by a SUBSYS override. The alternative view is that as soon as you specify SUBSYS TSO you override all the SYS settings and only what is listed takes effect - plus the internal defaults. The answer to this can't be determined from D SMF,O as it only lists the input, not the resulting set up. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Changing Changeman PDSs to PDSEs (Was: No Subject)
Subject added On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:00:48 -0400, Whitehair, John john.whiteh...@forethought.com wrote: Has anyone had experience changing Changeman PDSs to PDSEs? John R. Whitehair MVS Systems Programmer Forethought Financial Services 812-933-6730 (office) john.whiteh...@forethought.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3592 carts
The RMM SEARCHVOL command would be even easier. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.comwrote: At 03:36 -0500 on 03/31/2011, Mike Wood wrote about Re: 3592 carts: To ensure rmm has the correct location name, once the above volcat change is done, you can issue RMM CV volser LOCATION(SHELF) FORCE this should update rmm to correct the location to SHELF. To created the needed commands, I have found that using an Assembler Macro that issues PUNCH commands to output the command is useful. You just have the macro loop a volser counter to create the command text. So long as there is a compact volser range this is enough to create the individual commands needed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF EXITS in effect - which are they?
Have you tried an instruction fetch slip trap on one of the SYS or SUBSYS named exits? Depending on which one hits you'll have your answer. You can get the address(s) of your exits by adding the DIAG option to the D SMF,O command. Mark Jacobs -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Anthony Fletcher Sent: Thu 3/31/2011 6:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SMF EXITS in effect - which are they? Does anyone know a way to determine exactly which exits SMF is taking? D SMF,O shows which exits are supposed to be being taken, but we have a disagreement as to what happens when there is a SYS list, and a SUBSYS TSO list that is different. My reading of the manual is that whatever is in SYS is in effect unless changed by a SUBSYS override. The alternative view is that as soon as you specify SUBSYS TSO you override all the SYS settings and only what is listed takes effect - plus the internal defaults. The answer to this can't be determined from D SMF,O as it only lists the input, not the resulting set up. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF EXITS in effect - which are they?
D PROG,EXIT Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Fletcher Sent: Friday, 1 April 2011 7:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SMF EXITS in effect - which are they? Does anyone know a way to determine exactly which exits SMF is taking? D SMF,O shows which exits are supposed to be being taken, but we have a disagreement as to what happens when there is a SYS list, and a SUBSYS TSO list that is different. My reading of the manual is that whatever is in SYS is in effect unless changed by a SUBSYS override. The alternative view is that as soon as you specify SUBSYS TSO you override all the SYS settings and only what is listed takes effect - plus the internal defaults. The answer to this can't be determined from D SMF,O as it only lists the input, not the resulting set up. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:56:39 +0300, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503; #1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote: Hi, One of our users wants an ftp transfer to fail if the data set already exists. z/OS is the server. The client is windows. Is this possible? TIA Gadi Try: SUNIQUE ON before the PUT command. -- Dale R. Smith -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How/Why Is This Looping?
A recent thread here mentioned atomic rename of Classic data sets. I don't think there is such a thing, but I tried to synthesize it with: //ATOMICJOB 505303JOB,'Paul Gilmartin', // MSGLEVEL=(1,1),REGION=0M //* //* Doc: Atomic rename. //* //USERCOUTPUT JESDS=ALL,DEFAULT=YES, // CLASS=R,PAGEDEF=V0648Z,CHARS=GT12 //* //*.+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+| //RENAME EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=(,) //SYSTSIN DD * allocate dd(atomic) new delete dsn(TEMP.DUP1) delete TEMP.DUP1 rename TEMP.DUP2 TEMP.DUP1 free dd(atomic) //* //ENQ EXEC PGM=IEFBR14,COND=(0,LE) //X DD DISP=MOD,DSN=SYSUID..TEMP.DUP1 // +|+|+|+|+|+|+|+| :w ! submit $MVS_HOST To my astonishment, it looped. I canceled it after it generated 500 lines of JESYSMSGS, ending in: SDSF OUTPUT DISPLAY ATOMIC JOB03617 DSID 4 LINE 506 COLUMNS 02- 81 COMMAND INPUT ===SCROLL === CSR IEF285I user.TEMP.DUP1 KEPT IEF285I VOL SER NOS= TSO020. IEF237I 41C4 ALLOCATED TO SYS00167 IEF285I user.TEMP.DUP1 KEPT IEF285I VOL SER NOS= TSO020. IEF237I 41C4 ALLOCATED TO SYS00168 IEF285I user.TEMP.DUP1 KEPT IEF285I VOL SER NOS= TSO020. IEF237I 41C4 ALLOCATED TO SYS00169 IEF472I ATOMIC RENAME - COMPLETION CODE - SYSTEM=222 USER= REASON= IEF285I user.ATOMIC.JOB03617.D103.? SYSOUT IEF285I user.ATOMIC.JOB03617.D101.? SYSIN IEF285I user.TEMP.DUP1 KEPT IEF285I VOL SER NOS= TSO020. IEF373I STEP/RENAME /START 2011090.2229 IEF032I STEP/RENAME /STOP 2011090.2235 CPU: 0 HR 00 MIN 02.20 SECSRB: 0 HR 00 MIN 00.07 SEC VIRT: 268K SYS: 332K EXT: 348K SYS:11308K IEF375I JOB/ATOMIC /START 2011090.2229 IEF033I JOB/ATOMIC /STOP 2011090.2235 CPU: 0 HR 00 MIN 02.20 SECSRB: 0 HR 00 MIN 00.07 SEC BOTTOM OF DATA Data sets TEMP.DUP1 and TEMP.DUP2 both preexisted, catalogued as? Command - Enter / to select action Message Volume --- user.TEMP.DUP1 TSO020 user.TEMP.DUP2 TSO005 * End of Data Set list ??? Just curious. Thanks, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP question
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:34:27 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bernard Coeytaux Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:57 AM We use the followings steps Del targetfilename.$TMP$ Put sourcefilename targetfiname.$TMP$ If the put is RC 0 then the dataset is complete Ren targetfilename.$TMP$ realtargetname The rename is atomic, and will fails if the real target dataset exist on evry platform This works and I think it is the only way to do the noreplace in a generic, general, manner. Unfortunately it does not avoid the file upload entirely and so still takes as long as replacing. Another possible problem is that the z/OS step will exit with a non-zero RC if the file exists when using the '(EXIT' parameter, because the ren fails. Of course, the del could also fail and, with (EXIT, that would terminate your ftp step prematurely. First, given how plainly the OP stated: ... z/OS is the server. The client is windows. ... It's dismaying how many followups presumed a z/OS client, or imputed facilities present only in IBM clients to clients or servers from other vendors. Somehow the phrase radically naif comes to mind. By experiment with a z/OS 1.12 server, for classic data sets RENAME fails if the target DSN preexists: 503 $ ftp user@3mvs Connected to mvs 220-FTPD1 IBM FTP CS V1R12 at ..., 17:10:35 on 2011-03-31. ftp rename temp.dup2 temp.dup1 350 RNFR accepted. Please supply new name for RNTO. 550 Rename fails: user.TEMP.DUP1 already exists. Atomic when the target is not replaced is a notional nullity -- to me, it means that when the target is replaced there is no interval during which any other process/task/address space can observe its nonexistence. I suppose that if an ENQ EXC is obtained and held while the original target is uncatalogued, scratched, and renamed-to the criterion for an atomic and preemptive rename is satisfied. TSO, at least, has the contrary habit of FREEing the ENQ at the point of the DELETE and before the RENAME can be done. (A startling result of an experiment in another thread.) When the target is a UNIX file: ftp cd /u/user 250 HFS directory /u/user is the current working directory ftp rename temp.dup2 temp.dup1 350 RNFR accepted. Please supply new name for RNTO. 250 /u/user/temp.dup2 renamed to /u/user/temp.dup1 the file is calmly renamed, replacing the original target. I presume, without any definitive proof, that the operation is atomic in accordance with UNIX custom. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
