Re: Real return address for link and attach

2011-07-03 Thread Dale Miller

On July 1, Tom Marchant wrote:
LINK is an SVC and the linked program runs under control of an SVRB.
Since when? Perhaps everything has turned upside down while I was  
retiring, but my memory says that LINK results in the program running  
under a PRB. In fact (unless this has been rewritten without my consent)
programs executing as a result of EXEC PGM= are (normally?) invoked  
via LINK, and they run under a PRB (or used to).


Dale Miller

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Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-07-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4e09f1b1.2000...@valley.net, on 06/28/2011
   at 11:22 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said:

There is no formal mechanism to let TSO announce a change in  screen
size.

However, PA2 is defined as a reshow key for TSO, and there are return
codes defined as I/O error.
 
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Re: Quick question

2011-07-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1309442922.9025.14.ca...@dv7t.johnmckown.net, on 06/30/2011
   at 09:08 AM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net said:

I can't think of anything off hand.

Isn't there a basic scheduling facility in JES3 DJC?
 
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Re: IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube

2011-07-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 497514.89207...@web161422.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on 06/29/2011
   at 09:10 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said:

Another topic. What was the IBM # for the specialized processor
engines that were something like AP's (but weren't) on the 3090.

I'm not aware of any that were specific to the 3090, but there were
channel-attached array and crypto boxen for S/370. There was a vector
processor option on the 3090. but AFAIK it wasn't an extra box and did
not have a model number.
 
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Re: RES: RES: JES2 OFFLOAD Question

2011-07-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
c3ecc2048cc02a42806c6211b832a597048ea89...@srvmailsp01.gravames.com.br,
on 06/30/2011
   at 07:57 AM, Sérgio Lima Costa sergio.co...@cetip.com.br said:

However it seems that someone wants to be the list owner.

The people who demand that others do their research for them?

Assistance on this list is on a volunteer basis. If you want someone
to help you and he asks you to do something first, you can either do
without his help or do as he asks. The fact that someone makes his
assistance contingent on proper information doesn't mean that he
believes that he is the list owner, just that he has the right to
decide under what circumstances he will take the time to help.
 
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Re: A JCL SMTP with attached files and with the USERID that submit the bath process

2011-07-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201106291845202736.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 06/29/2011
   at 06:45 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

I've long wondered about this.  SMTP, on receiving mail
and transferring it to the spool translates ASCII to EBCDIC. But it
doesn't modify the MIME headers to reflect what it did, does it?

AFAIK the old SMTP STC does not support MIME, so it has no way to tell
what to translate and what to send as-is.
 
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Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-07-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4e0a7008.8050...@valley.net, on 06/28/2011
   at 08:21 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said:

I have to plead ignorance on that. It's been too many decades to 
remember the details (I normally use Wylbur rather than TSO),  but I
was under the impression that a key declared as the Reshow  key
causes a redisplay without involving the application?

That depends very much on the options used. Take a look at your code
for EXHIBIT under TSO; as I recall it dotted the I's and crossed the
T's.
 
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Re: Quick question

2011-07-03 Thread John McKown
I've never been in a JES3 shop. Only VS1/JES1, MVT/HASP, an MVS/JES2.

On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 04:05 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
 In 1309442922.9025.14.ca...@dv7t.johnmckown.net, on 06/30/2011
at 09:08 AM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net said:
 
 I can't think of anything off hand.
 
 Isn't there a basic scheduling facility in JES3 DJC?
  

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Re: Real return address for link and attach

2011-07-03 Thread John McKown
As I recall, you have a program running on a PRB. It issues a LINK which
runs on a SVRB (as do all type 3 and 4 SVCs). The LINK runs the
requested program on a PRB. If you abend in the second, the dump will
show the TCB (TCBRBP) pointing to the second PRB which points (RBLINKB)
to the SVRB which points to the first PRB which points back to the TCB.

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2d510/57.1.1
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2d310/211.1.1


On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 23:50 -0700, Dale Miller wrote:
 On July 1, Tom Marchant wrote:
 LINK is an SVC and the linked program runs under control of an SVRB.
 Since when? Perhaps everything has turned upside down while I was  
 retiring, but my memory says that LINK results in the program running  
 under a PRB. In fact (unless this has been rewritten without my consent)
 programs executing as a result of EXEC PGM= are (normally?) invoked  
 via LINK, and they run under a PRB (or used to).
 
 Dale Miller
 
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Re: Quick question

2011-07-03 Thread DanD

There are vendor products out there to do this.

ThruPut Manager's JTS; CA must have something after they took over 
Cybermation.

Any scheduling package has time related submission.

If you're looking for something free, is there nothing on the CBT site?

Dan

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Subject: Re: Quick question


I've never been in a JES3 shop. Only VS1/JES1, MVT/HASP, an MVS/JES2.

On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 04:05 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In 1309442922.9025.14.ca...@dv7t.johnmckown.net, on 06/30/2011
   at 09:08 AM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net said:

I can't think of anything off hand.

Isn't there a basic scheduling facility in JES3 DJC?


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Re: Real return address for link and attach

2011-07-03 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 7/3/2011 8:53 AM, John McKown wrote:

As I recall, you have a program running on a PRB. It issues a LINK which
runs on a SVRB (as do all type 3 and 4 SVCs). The LINK runs the
requested program on a PRB. If you abend in the second, the dump will
show the TCB (TCBRBP) pointing to the second PRB which points (RBLINKB)
to the SVRB which points to the first PRB which points back to the TCB.

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2d510/57.1.1
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2d310/211.1.1


I strongly suspect that you're mistaken. LINK runs under an 
SVRB, builds a PRB for the desired program, and exits, causing 
its SVRB to be removed from the chain. In a dump you will see 
two consecutive PRBs.


Old, old system code tends to be parsimonious, and once the 
lower PRB is built, there is no need for services requiring the 
SVRB.




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Re: Real return address for link and attach

2011-07-03 Thread John McKown
You are likely correct. I'll try to remember to test this when I get a
chance.

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On Jul 3, 2011 10:13 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote:

On 7/3/2011 8:53 AM, John McKown wrote:

 As I recall, you have a program running on a PRB. It iss...
I strongly suspect that you're mistaken. LINK runs under an SVRB, builds a
PRB for the desired program, and exits, causing its SVRB to be removed from
the chain. In a dump you will see two consecutive PRBs.

Old, old system code tends to be parsimonious, and once the lower PRB is
built, there is no need for services requiring the SVRB.



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Re: Empty output in netstat home z/OS 1.10

2011-07-03 Thread Jorge Garcia
John, It doesn't work:

D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON  
EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V1R10 TCPIP 311   
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
-- RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE -- 
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EZANS Tool under ISPF for NETSTAT

2011-07-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
Cross Posting to IBM Main and TCPIP ---

The EZANS Tool has now been made a real tool (don't worry - it is still for
free).  You can go to the following web site to down-load the latest
version, which supports z/OS releases from V1R4 through V1R12.  

The official name of the tool now is: The IBM z/OS Communications Server
Network Utility Assistant

http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24029203

I have incorporated solutions for all known problems.

I will continue to request that you send me  a note if you discover things
that do not work as they should, or if you have suggestions for
improvements.

Good luck with this new version.

Best regards
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Internet: alfre...@us.ibm.com - Phone: +1 (919) 543 3082 - Tieline: 441-3082

  
  
From the Website 
  

Abstract 

The IBM z/OS Communications Server Network Utility Assistant tool is a
TSO/ISPF front-end to the z/OS Communications Server TSO NETSTAT line-mode
command. 

Download Description 

The z/OS Communications Server NETSTAT command is a line-mode command that
is available in TSO, the UNIX shell, and as a z/OS console command. In all
environments, NETSTAT is invoked with a set of options that can be grouped
in three ways:

The NETSTAT report name 
NETSTAT in z/OS V1R12 supports 29 different reports. 
General and report-specific modifiers 
Most reports have report-specific modifiers that are used to modify the type
of information the NETSTAT report returns. The highest number of
report-specific modifiers is seven on the ROUTE report. Some of the
modifiers can be used together, and others are mutually exclusive. 
Report filters 
Report filters are used to reduce the amount of data that is returned from
NETSTAT. z/OS V1R12 provides 13 different types of filters. Each report that
supports filters supports one or more of these filter types. Multiple filter
types cannot be mixed on a single NETSTAT invocation, but most of the filter
types support up to six filter values (of the same type).

As the number of NETSTAT options has increased over the years, the use of
the NETSTAT command as a line-mode command has become complicated. Users
generally tend to remember a few reports and combinations of modifiers and
filters and limit their use of NETSTAT to these few selected NETSTAT
commands. 
This tool is a TSO/ISPF application that wraps around the z/OS
Communications Server NETSTAT TSO command, providing a full-screen TSO-based
interface to the NETSTAT command. It operates only in the TSO environment,
not in NetView and not on the console. 
  

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Re: Real return address for link and attach

2011-07-03 Thread Peter Relson
For LINK and ATTACH, the address in register 14 on entry to the target 
routine is in common storage and is the address of an SVC 3.

As you expect, if your subtask terminates then it would not resume 
anywhere. Therefore one must suspect that it did not terminate, although 
it might have intended to.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Annoyance with the STORAGE macro

2011-07-03 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I have decided to start using the ADDR= keyword on the OBTAIN call (instead of
simply copying R1).

I was quite astonished that despite

 SYSSTATE ASCENV=AR  

the macro generated 
 
 LGR   addr,1

instead of the expected

 LAE   addr,0(,1)

or

 LGR   addr,1
 CPYA  addr,1

Kind of makes the ADDR keyword less than useful outside of the primary.

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Re: Real return address for link and attach

2011-07-03 Thread John McKown
This is what I see in my SYSUDUMP. It was not what I was expecting at
all.

PRB#1 runs pgm1 which issues SVC 6 (LINK)
SVRB#1 is for SVC 0x33
SVRB#2 is for SVC 0x78

And that is all. No PRB or CDE for the second pgm at all. Which makes no
sense because I added it using an IDENTIFY macro. I'm undoubtedly doing
something wrong.  

On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 11:22 -0500, John McKown wrote:
 You are likely correct. I'll try to remember to test this when I get a
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 On Jul 3, 2011 10:13 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote:
 
 On 7/3/2011 8:53 AM, John McKown wrote:
 
  As I recall, you have a program running on a PRB. It iss...
 I strongly suspect that you're mistaken. LINK runs under an SVRB, builds a
 PRB for the desired program, and exits, causing its SVRB to be removed from
 the chain. In a dump you will see two consecutive PRBs.
 
 Old, old system code tends to be parsimonious, and once the lower PRB is
 built, there is no need for services requiring the SVRB.
 
 
 
 Gerhard Postpischil
 Bradford, VT
 
 
 
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Annoyance with the IEZJSAB macro

2011-07-03 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I had a USING on R1 before the macro. I realize that IEZJSAB alters the
standard registers, so I did a restore of R1 after the macro. Sadly IEZJSAB
does a USING and DROP on 1.

It would seem to me that any macro the does a USING/DROP should bracket itself
with PUSH and POP USING. I should not have to do that in open code.

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Vector facility

2011-07-03 Thread David Boyes
AFAIK, it was only supported for VS Fortran 2, and there was an extra set of 
libraries necessary to enable the VF code which you installed on top of the 
normal Fortran install. There was a second publication that discussed the VF 
support (developed at Cornell as part of the Cornell National Supercomputing 
Facility). They had a highly experimental 12 way (two 6 ways glued together 
somehow) and the VF code could also enable using the VFs on the other machine 
as well as the one you were on. I might have a copy of the extra pub somewhere; 
I know Rice's copy is probably gone. 

I believe that Ken Kennedy at Rice added some code for VS PL/1 to use the thing 
(that's why we had one), but you had to program specially to use it, and that 
code was never widely distributed (it came with PTOOL (a nifty automated 
parallelism analyzer for Fortran), if you had it, as a freebie, I think. 

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Re: If you found used gum in the parking lot, would you chew it?

2011-07-03 Thread Mark van der Eynden
On who's computer does it actually autorun?

On every computer I've seen it prompts you asking you if you want to run the 
autorun content.

It doesn't run automatically and you can always click 'Cancel'

I use this feature to sync certain files between my home and work computers.

It irks me no end that this feature has been disabled in Windows 7 because a 
few people can't read.

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SVRB for LINK, when freed?

2011-07-03 Thread John McKown
Perhaps Peter Relson of IBM can resolve the question of whether the SVRB
for a LINK is freed before the LINK'ed to program's PRB is placed on the
RB chain. I'm now certain my test is wrong and that the SVRB actually
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considering pgm to convert XMIT file to tar

2011-07-03 Thread John McKown
I am considering trying to write a program on z/OS which can read a
NETDATA file and write a tar file. NETDATA is the output format for the
TSO TRANSMIT/XMIT and CMS SENDFILE commands. The program would convert
from EBCDIC (CP037?) to ASCII (ISO8859-1), with UNIX LF line endings.
The output would convert z/OS dataset names to lower case and convert
the CMS file name to fn.ft.fm . I don't think I could handle z/OS PDSes
or CMS MACLIBs. More thought is needed. Perhaps they could be a tar
within a tar. I don't plan on using any compression or supporting zip
files.

Does anybody else think this would be useful? The language would likely
be HLASM or maybe Java. Java is more portable.

If I get it working for a TSO generated file, I'll need someone to send
me a CMS file. I don't have access to z/VM at work.

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Re: Real Storage Occupancy

2011-07-03 Thread Wang Xiaobing
Ted,

I am worried about if the real storage used more and more it will cause paging 
issue..is it right ? thanks.

Wang Xiaobing.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 21:16:04 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 
wrote:

I find the problem is only real storage is increasing, virtual storage looks
ok..can not understand why..

As I've tried to tell, this NOT a problem.
Virtual storage is stable.
There is no paging issue.
So, what's the problem?
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Re: Real Storage Occupancy

2011-07-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If? If? If?
Is it doing so?
From your posts: NO.

Monitor it if you really believe it is.

But, I'd spend my time (better, IMO) monitoring the whole system, rather than 
monitoring a (maybe) pseudo issue.

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Ted,

I am worried about if the real storage used more and more it will cause paging 
issue..is it right ? thanks.

Wang Xiaobing.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 21:16:04 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 
wrote:

I find the problem is only real storage is increasing, virtual storage looks
ok..can not understand why..

As I've tried to tell, this NOT a problem.
Virtual storage is stable.
There is no paging issue.
So, what's the problem?
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Re: Real Storage Occupancy

2011-07-03 Thread Gerhard Adam
Let me ask an obvious question  has the monitoring program been checked
to ensure that it isn't collecting the data or storing it improperly
(thereby accumulating data)?

Many performance monitors will allow you to see the data that is contained
in the allocated storage, so if you are seeing an increased in allocated
frames, then you should be able to examine their contents to see if it is
new or replicated data, etc. ... 

Also, have you validated the reported data from the REXX program against
another monitor just to ensure no errors are being shown?

Adam

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Re: Quick question

2011-07-03 Thread Brian Westerman
Sorry in advance for the marketing plug,

There is the older free AUTO product on the CBT and I think there is another
scheduler that actually uses JES2 to do the work.  Then there is SyzAUTO/z,
which is not free but is both quite inexpensive and 100% supported.  It
allows job submission based on any timeofday, dayofweek/month/year, and has
facilities to provide the highest condition codes via EMAIL and several
other key features.

The older free version has some issues with some times of day that are all
resolved on SyzAUTO/z. 

Besides already being inexpensive, there are discounts for members of
IBM-Main and SHARE on all of our system management and automation products.

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Re: Empty output in netstat home z/OS 1.10

2011-07-03 Thread Chris Mason
Jorge

I believe that what John was doing was commenting on the flavour of the 
command he preferred, NETSTAT ALLCONN rather than NETSTAT CONN, in 
order to get information on TCP connections and UDP sockets rather than 
suggesting that using NETSTAT ALLCONN rather than NETSTAT CONN would 
solve your problem - but I could be wrong ...

quotes

Netstat ALLConn/-a report
Provides information for all TCP connections and UDP sockets, including 
recently closed ones.

Netstat COnn/-c report
Displays the information about each active TCP connection and UDP socket.

/quotes

As I indicated before I believe your best chance to discover what is wrong 
with your installation is to post on IBMTCP-L.

Chris Mason

On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 11:45:20 -0500, Jorge Garcia jgarc...@mapfre.com 
wrote:

John, It doesn't work:

D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON
EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V1R10 TCPIP 311
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