Re: TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

2011-10-02 Thread Peter Relson
It is somewhat unlikely that any of you out there has ever created an 
SIRB.
In any case, it is not intended that you do so.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In b1b815ba-4a83-4b17-a741-0d577d944...@yahoo.com, on 10/01/2011
   at 06:30 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said:

EDGAR was deceit but I still preferred ISPF.

ITYM decent. Did EDGAR have prefix macros like XEDIT had?
 
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Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms ----- OT ----- List .. my apologies.

2011-10-02 Thread Jim Thomas
Hello Linda,

College rd... close to the Dulwich park and that pub at the entrance 
that I do not remember the name of.  

In all honesty, all I can remember now is taking the #12 (LRT) all 
the way to almost the very end of the line.  

Did know people on Underhill rd. too. IIRC, I think me then GP had
his office off of Underhill rd. 

My apologies ... have not been home for since the 80's.

Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
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j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)

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Hi Jim, 



No need for apologies, I didn't mind the question at all.  If you don't mind my 
 asking, where is Dulwich? 



Thanks, 



Linda 

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My apologies Ma'am, 

In the US but was raised in Dulwich, hence my question.   


Kind Regards 

Jim Thomas 
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Hi Jim, 



Not in the UK, never been there.  I do like the BBC website.   

Linda 

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List ... my apologies ... just a quick question if I may. 

Linda .. are you in the UK ?? and if so .. where ??. 


Kind Regards 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15124005 



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Development licences

2011-10-02 Thread R.S.

I'm looking for solution to lower license fees for DEV environment.

Scenario: separate machine (penalty box), small one, possibly z114. 
Machine is used solely for application development process (no 
production on the machine), the software is for internal company use 
(NOT sold on the market).


I heard something about IBM special terms and conditions for such 
systema, but I cannot find detailed information.


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Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms ----- OT

2011-10-02 Thread Jim Thomas
Ma'am,

My apologies ... SE London.

Kind Regards

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Hi Jim, 



No need for apologies, I didn't mind the question at all.  If you don't mind my 
 asking, where is Dulwich? 



Thanks, 



Linda 

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firms - OT 

My apologies Ma'am, 

In the US but was raised in Dulwich, hence my question.   


Kind Regards 

Jim Thomas 
617-233-4130 (mobile) 
636-294-1014(res) 
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) 

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firms - OT 

Hi Jim, 



Not in the UK, never been there.  I do like the BBC website.   

Linda 

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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:53:52 PM 
Subject: Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech 
firms - OT 

List ... my apologies ... just a quick question if I may. 

Linda .. are you in the UK ?? and if so .. where ??. 


Kind Regards 

Jim Thomas 
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636-294-1014(res) 
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Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms ----- OT ----- List .. my apologies.

2011-10-02 Thread Aled Hughes
Linda/Jim

The Crown and Greyhound... locally known as the Dog! Spent many a £ there in 
the 1970s! Last visited about 20 years back. Don't know if it's still there 
under that name though! Probably some fancy stupid name like 'The Ref and 
Whistle'. Very famous resident in the area today is Lady Thatcher. 

Dulwich always was the upmarket part of South (Sarf) London. 

Sorry to the rest of you not quite Florida is it. 

Cheers!

ALH



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Hello Linda,
College rd... close to the Dulwich park and that pub at the entrance 
hat I do not remember the name of.  
In all honesty, all I can remember now is taking the #12 (LRT) all 
he way to almost the very end of the line.  
Did know people on Underhill rd. too. IIRC, I think me then GP had
is office off of Underhill rd. 
My apologies ... have not been home for since the 80's.
Kind Regards
Jim Thomas
17-233-4130 (mobile)
36-294-1014(res)
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irms - OT
Hi Jim, 

No need for apologies, I didn't mind the question at all.  If you don't mind my 
 
sking, where is Dulwich? 

Thanks, 

Linda 
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ubject: Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech 
irms - OT 
My apologies Ma'am, 
In the US but was raised in Dulwich, hence my question.   

ind Regards 
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Hi Jim, 

Not in the UK, never been there.  I do like the BBC website.   
Linda 
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List ... my apologies ... just a quick question if I may. 
Linda .. are you in the UK ?? and if so .. where ??. 

ind Regards 
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Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz  , Seymour J.) writes:
 ITYM decent. Did EDGAR have prefix macros like XEDIT had?

xedit wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEDIT

what i remember was that in the above typical screen layout ...  was
that prefix area was standard EDGAR feature and there was xedit macro
that would setup edgar lookfeel (although i have some vague
recollection using edgar prefix area on the right rather than the left).

I found this (posted 20Nov89 from somebody at EARN/CEARN)
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=XEDITTXTft=MEMO

from above:

No special XEDIT setting other than my standard EDGAR (prefix on the
right so I can use the next line key, no scale/tabline nonsense, nulls
on, stay on, wrap on, case ignore, in other words, the opposite of most
XEDIT default settings :-) ).

... snip ...

old post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#23

references:

Historical Manuals CMS Reference (feb/mar 1984)
http://ukcc.uky.edu/ukccinfo/391/cmsref.html

from above:

XEDIT no longer supports EDGAR simulation mode, and the EDGAR and
ECOMMAND commands are no longer available.

... snip ...

i.e. drop support for EDGAR macro (ECOMMAND) syntax.

from long ago and far away:

Date: 06/29/81 21:40:38
To: wheeler
Fro: somebody austrailia

Re: RED - XEDIT .. I haven't had too much trouble migrating to
XEDIT. My EDGAR stuff was easy. The NED stuff not so easy, but not too
hard (being restricted to getting the whole file in-storage can be quite
a restriction), but there's not much one can do about the lack of RED's
pattern-matching facilities .. that's a REAL pain!

Re: PARASITE .. on the weekend I had a chance to try the newest version
you sent me during (yet another) VM/SP test time .. I still have the
same problems with having to hit ENTER twice to get any action, and with
it dozing off in the middle of a lot of line-by-line output. It seems to
be not getting (or handling) the interrupts from CP. Didn't someone else
report a similar problem?

Any thoughts/comments on my input re CJNTEL and PARASITE last time
(re-sending after this VMSG)? Regards,

... snip ...

ned was one of the editor's mentioned in previous post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#41
that includes excerpt from edit comparison from old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email790606
in this post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#26

NED was the most compute overhead of all the editors ... but NED also
included the ability to edit file larger than would fit in virtual
memory (as referenced in above).

PARASITE was small CMS terminal emulator application using the VM
logical device extensions (used by PVM) It had a companion routine
STORY that was terminal scripting application (both would run in CMS
transient area). old post with PARASITE/STORY references
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35

followup post contains STORY for automatically loging into
RETAIN and retrieving PUT bucket
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#36

CJNTEL was an internal network online facility that allowed remote query
of name/phone for increasing parts of the corporation (had access to
online internal telephone books). some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cjntel

VMSG was internal email client. An very early 0.x VMSG source version
was picked up by the PROFS group and used for their email client. When
the VMSG author contacted PROFS group and offerred them a much more
complete 1.0 source, the PROFS group attempted to get him fired (denying
that they were using VMSG). The whole thing quieted down after the VMSG
authored pointed out that every PROFS note in the world had his initials
in a non-displayed field. After that the source was restricted to two of
us (besides the VMSG author). misc. past posts mentioning VMSG:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#35 why is there an @ key?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#46 Does the word mainframe still have 
a meaning?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#39 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#40 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#14 Mail system scalability (Was: Re: 
Itanium troubles)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#58 history of CMS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#4 HONE, , misc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#34 VSE (Was: Re: Refusal to change was 
Re: LE and COBOL)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#13 Mainframe Virus 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#43 FULIST
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#44 FULIST
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#4 Fast action games on System/360+?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#23 sorting was: The System/360 Model 20 
Wasn't As Bad As All That
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#42 The Future of CPUs: What's After 
Multi-Core?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#17 Jim Gray Is Missing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#13 Why is 

Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-02 Thread Scott Ford
Yep Exec,Exec2 and starting writing Rexx when it first came out on VM, then 
TSO,MVS,Netview and Object Rexx


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In 1317329708.85777.yahoomail...@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, on
09/29/2011
   at 01:55 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:

Has a manager on VM who has use learn the VM commands under the
clists.

I might believe EXEC, EXEC2 or REXX, but CLIST?

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Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-02 Thread Scott Ford
Shmuel,
 
I dont mind helping anyone, but there are two issues, one that person will 
never learn to be self-reliant for problems and secondly
sometimes I just have the time to hand-hold, especially when IBM explained much 
better than I can because its their product.

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Subject: Re: OT to my collegues

In
of98ae8349.26cab4de-onc125791b.00186155-c125791b.001bf...@deutscherring.de,
on 09/30/2011
   at 07:05 AM, Michael Klaeschen michael.klaesc...@deutscherring.de
said:

One day I had a really big problem. Of course, it was my fault, I had
 forget some details and been too stupid before, etc pp... . But dear
god likes me and therefore I got help.

There's a difference between helping you and doing your job for you.
Scott's complaint was about people who want a baby-sitter, not a
mentor.

I will not underestimate that persons' effort for learning and 
gratitude for getting help.

Exactly; that person *wanted* to learn, unlike the people Scott
complained about.

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Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The point was it wasn't CLIST, as your post stated.
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Yep Exec,Exec2 and starting writing Rexx when it first came out on VM, then 
TSO,MVS,Netview and Object Rexx


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Has a manager on VM who has use learn the VM commands under the
clists.

I might believe EXEC, EXEC2 or REXX, but CLIST?

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Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-02 Thread Scott Ford
Ted,
 
Yeah, but I am so cross-platformed, sometimes my old memory cells has to 
remember which ..lol

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The point was it wasn't CLIST, as your post stated.
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Yep Exec,Exec2 and starting writing Rexx when it first came out on VM, then 
TSO,MVS,Netview and Object Rexx


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In 1317329708.85777.yahoomail...@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, on
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Has a manager on VM who has use learn the VM commands under the
clists.

I might believe EXEC, EXEC2 or REXX, but CLIST?

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Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms ----- OT

2011-10-02 Thread Scott Ford
Linda,
 
Its an interesting article. I worked for one of the Top 5 companies in the 
world for 7+ yrs and also was European based for awhile before I came back to 
USA and
started consulting

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Hi Jim, 



Not in the UK, never been there.  I do like the BBC website.  

Linda 

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List ... my apologies ... just a quick question if I may. 

Linda .. are you in the UK ?? and if so .. where ??. 


Kind Regards 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15124005 



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Re: Secondary Jes2 Not part of a MAS

2011-10-02 Thread Jack Schudel

I did a SHARE presentation at the MAR2005 Anaheim meeting:
http://proceedings.share.org/client_files/SHARE_in_Anaheim/s2667jsa.pdf

Hopefully it will give you a start.

Feel free to ask any questions once you have had a chance to look at the 
foils.



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Hi all, does anyone know of a good document for setting up a secondary
JES2 that's not part of a MAS.


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Re: Development licences

2011-10-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
You may be thinking of this:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/solutions/editions/appdev/index.html
or this:
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/rational/products/developer/systemz/unittest/

There are specific terms and conditions associated with those offerings,
and you may or may not qualify, depending on what you're doing.

That said, what development tools are you talking about? If IBM's, they're
almost always sub-capacity eligible. Is there some particular (non-IBM?)
software that you think ought to run on a penalty box? Splitting your
current z/OS installation in two ordinarily results in a higher total z/OS
license charge (and a higher license charge for any common MLC products).
One reason that happens is that you get to take an additional trip on the
MLC price curve. Another reason (sometimes bigger reason) is that you lose
the virtualization benefits that accrue between dev/test and production, so
your total licensed capacity could well increase. Of course, you've got the
extra machine to buy, the additional maintenance, and the added
space/power/cooling. For any server those expenses are not zero.

In short, I'm skeptical of your idea as presented, but I'm keeping an open
mind pending more information.


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