Sharing disks between real and emulated MF.

2011-10-09 Thread shai hess
One new respond from user in the UK.

Required MFNetDisk feature (All, Disk, tape emulation, replication)
disk  tape emulation
MFNetDisk experience and comments. You can attach text file instead.
Works well for the 1 testing disk we have that can be ''attached'' to z9
real h/w or emulationed h/w. Seems stable.


Thanks,
Shai

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Re: Command JES2 $AJ

2011-10-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
 
 I need information about command Jes2($AJ), submited for job in execution, i 
 saw in
 SYSLOG,  that it was requeued, carried on in another initiator passed to 
 other step.
 
 Would id be normal behaviour ???
 
 Help is wellcome.
 
 Jorge Campos
 
 TM SOLUTIONS


What level of z/OS?

Is the thread you copied here related to the BIND in VTAM issue ?  If not, 
please create new threads and do not copy older ones that do not related to the 
topic.  I have removed that part of the thread.

$AJ - Release job.  To determine what happened you need to use SYSLOG to trace 
the process.  Find where the job is submitted in SYSLOG, then trace the job 
number to see what happened.  AJ will not change the job to a new init after it 
has started.  

It could be someone or something (Automation tool?) did an HJ/EJ/AJ command.  
That requeues the job and then releases it.  Then it might have gotten a new 
initiator.

Find out all commands issued on this job and see what has occurred and when.  
If you have a product like OPS/MVS then you could use the OPS Browse Log 
function.  It will filter syslog and help reduce the data to just what you want 
to look at.  Also review the job number.  Before the AJ command and After the 
AJ command, was it using the same job number?

Do you have a scheduling product?  Is it possible that the scheduling product 
did something?


If you have SDSF it has a filter function that might help in this as well.

Lizette

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Re: Fairwell to a Friend

2011-10-09 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Yes, a great loss indeed! Rest in Peace, Gilbert.

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Rick Fochtman wrote:
 Received from another list:
 
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 To those who new him:
 
 Gilbert Sain-Flour passed away last night in Montauban France.
 
 He will be missed.
 
 Carlos Aguilera Sr,

Sad news and a great loss. A man of great capacity and an
incisive thinker, IMO. I never met him but we emailed a few
times. He got me to take over talking to TSO/E support about
a STTMPMD glitch under OS/390 2.4 when he no longer had
access to that level. (The glitch did not manifest itself in other
levels of OS/390).

He suggested that if it ever suited, I should drop by and we'd
share a bottle of wine. By the time I was visiting - Florida I
think - he had relocated.

Very sad now.

Greg

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zVM V4 on zEnterprize

2011-10-09 Thread Arye Shemer
Hello forumers,
Has any of you managed to operate zVM V4 on IBM zEnterprize machines (z114
or z196) ?

I know that zVM V4 is not supported from ages,
but we have some old applications that are not working on newer zVM
realeases without major investment.

Thanks,

Arye.

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Re: Fairwell to a Friend

2011-10-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Finnell wrote:

Saint-Flour! Also on CBT as File 183.

Thanks very much Ed! I must have overlooked that. This is where I first used 
his good sources many years ago.


Peter Farley writes:
His pages are still available here.  Did you try this address? 
http://gsf-soft.com/Freeware/

Thanks Peter! It was that dash in the address that got me off in my searching.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/gsf/tools/ -- This page is not working. I'm 
dropping it now.


Thanks Peter and Ed for your kind help. Much appreciated!

Please keep it up with your kind posts, I indeed learn from you. :)


Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: zVM V4 on zEnterprize

2011-10-09 Thread Bob Shannon
We still run VM 2.4 as a second-level guest on a z196. A V4 system is new 
compared to that.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: Any HMC Gurus out there?

2011-10-09 Thread Mike Myers

Doug:

Thanks. I think you have the answer. I logged onto the HMC and viewed 
the console log. I was able to see regular messages indicating a time 
synchronization between the HMC and the z9 on a regular basis up to the 
time when someone logged on locally and fooled around with the IP 
addresses. I queried the client and found that they were messing around 
at that time and also fooled with the cabling. They will go and check 
things tomorrow morning and then we may be back on the air.


I'll let you know.

Mike

On 10/08/2011 08:42 PM, Doug Fuerst wrote:

Hardware Management Console and support element wiring options
A local Hardware Management Console must be connected to its support
Elements
using Local Area Network (LAN) wiring. The Hardware Management Console and
the support Elements both come with Dual Ethernet LAN adapters.
The communication protocol (TCP/IP) used in Support Element to Hardware
Management Console communication is defined for both adapters in the support
elements.

v Ethernet only - one path wiring scenario
This Ethernet only wiring scenario is intended for enterprises who
currently
have Ethernet installed and who do not want Token Ring wiring introduced
into
their environment. This wiring scenario requires that a second Ethernet be
specified with the support Elements. The Ethernet features assume the use of
10/100 Mbit Ethernet facilities, requiring the use of CAT-5 Ethernet
cabling.
Since the Support Element Ethernet only feature includes two Ethernet
adapters,
there will be two Ethernet connections available. For this scenario, only
the
Ethernet cable connected to the Ethernet in the first (top) PCMCIA slot of
the
support Elements will be used.
The TCP/IP protocol used in Support Element to Hardware Management Console
communication is defined for both adapters in the PCMCIA slots of the
support
Elements.
It will be necessary to connect the top Ethernet adapter cable to a
customer
supplied local hub capable of 10/100 Mbit Ethernet rates. It will be
necessary to
connect the Ethernet from the Hardware Management Console to either the
same hub as the support Elements, or to a hub that connects to the Support
Element hub.

Chapter 6. Hardware Management Console and support element communications 55
GC28-6875-03

Doug




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Mike,
Is there a Firewall in place? When you VPN in, is your IP address
being NAT'd to the  IP address (sub net) that the z9 network is on?

Roger

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Re: SPOOL move

2011-10-09 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 18:07 -0400, Linda Mooney wrote:
 If the old vols are draining and you run an offload, type=transmit

I run offloads regularly and reload when I have to.  That's a bit
problematic here because jobs can be processed by a daily offload -
Monday is $OFF1, Tuesday is $OFF2, etc - only once.  So I keep $OFF7 and
$OFF8 in reserve, using them sparingly.

Because I've got years of spool data kept by certain Very Important
Persons, it's a hassle when I absolutely have to
offload/coldstart/reload the entire spool because -something- is going
to fail to offload.  I haven't had to do that for some years, probably
since the last DASD geometry change.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that new spool migration function in R13.

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Re: Fairwell to a Friend

2011-10-09 Thread David Andrews
Ohno!  Gilbert was, as everyone has already pointed out, a class act.
Knowledgeable, generous, polite.  He left the world better than he found
it.

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Re: whereis command for TSO.

2011-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2CCE03A07DDC46038A691B078D8EB215@ericnbPC, on 10/07/2011
   at 11:37 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said:

I use ISRDDN all the time, but I miss a lot of the single use
programs I used to have when I worked at PH before they got rid of
z/OS.

While I stopped using them once ISRDDN did the job. Different folks,
different strokes.
 
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Re: Fairwell to a Friend

2011-10-09 Thread Pinnacle

On 10/8/2011 12:19 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:

Received from another list:

-- 



To those who new him:

Gilbert Sain-Flour passed away last night in Montauban France.

He will be missed.



Devastating news.  Gilbert was a good friend.  I had heard he was ill 
for a while now, and I hope his passing gives him peace.  Bon voyage mon 
ami.


Regards,
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Re: WLM Classification Rules question

2011-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4e9059d2.2060...@acm.org, on 10/08/2011
   at 09:10 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:

I don't claim to be an expert on MIME Email syntax (only to know
enough  to be dangerous), but there is a definite end-line for a
base64 encoded  block (short line with trailing ='s).

Yes. In order to append correctly you need to test whether there are
0, 1 or two trailing equal signs and decode the partial quantum, if
any. You don't need to decode more than two characters.

But if allowed, that would be certainly be a simpler solution 
than merging the two blocks into one (which requires at least a 
partial decoding of the last line of the first block to fill out 
that line)

There's no need to fill out the last line.

But, in the last case I received,  this wasn't what the list server 
sent.  It separated the second UTF-8 base64 footing from the
previous base64 encoded block with an intervening multi-part
separator line sequence. 

No. That may have been the intent, but a separator line contains the
value of the boundary parameter from Content-Type. Since there was no
boundary parameter, there can be no separator. A separator need not
look like --===_4E91B300_==, and looking like that does not make it
a separator.

I thought once you added a multi-part separator, that 
required a new set of Contents headers, not to mention the other 
multi-part headers that were missing.

Separator lines are part of composite MIME type. See RFC 2045 and RFC
2046 for details. In general, the message must have Mime-Version,
Content-Type and Content-Transfer-Encoding header fields. A part that
is not text/plain; charset=US-ASCII must have a Content-Type header
before the blank line. In particular, if it is UTF-8 then it must have

Content-Type text/plain; charset=UTF-8

In any event, what I'm receiving is definitely not making my
Thunderbird client happy

Nor would I expect any other e-mail client to render it properly; it
is broken.
 
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Re: Rename of DDname ?

2011-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 39cabff6-dbc8-4001-b6cd-baca2f024...@gmail.com, on 10/07/2011
   at 01:31 PM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com said:

Changing an allocated DDNAME is a recipe for a train wreck.

Not if you do it right.


The Allocation component is older than dirt. If you were meant to be
able to do such a thing there would be an interface for it. 

There is. Two[1], in fact. One does it by intent, the other as a side
effect.

[1] Well, two in DAIR. Two more in DYNALLOC in support of
the first two.
 
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Re: TSO TEST Debugging with TPUT and input paramters

2011-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
of6cdc7ddc.e421ca97-on86257922.00663a69-86257922.00666...@us.ibm.com,
on 10/07/2011
   at 01:38 PM, Wayne Driscoll wdri...@us.ibm.com said:

TPUT has supported a USERID= operand, which will route the TPUT to a 
logged on TSO user, for as long as I can remember.

Doesn't that require authorizarion? My recollection is that it was in
support of SEND, not for unprivileged programs.
 
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Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m34nzkcdi4@garlic.com, on 10/08/2011
   at 12:29 AM, Anne  Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said:

xt/370  at/370 was motorola 68k

As I recall, it was two of them, one with standard 68000 ROM and one
with a tailored ROM.
 
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Re: Fairwell to a Friend

2011-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4e90774e.2080...@ync.net, on 10/08/2011
   at 11:16 AM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said:

Gilbert Sain-Flour passed away last night in Montauban France.

Ouch!
 
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Re: whereis command for TSO.

2011-10-09 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Also ISRFIND will help you locate a load module.

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Subject: whereis command for TSO.

Many years ago, at a job far far away, I wrote a TSO WHEREIS command for 
finding load modules.

i.e. I could say TSO %WHEREIS mymodule
and it would tell me the DSN, or perhaps just linklist.

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Re: Rename of DDname ?

2011-10-09 Thread zMan
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
The Allocation component is older than dirt. If you were meant to be
able to do such a thing there would be an interface for it.

 There is. Two[1], in fact. One does it by intent, the other as a side
 effect.

 [1] Well, two in DAIR. Two more in DYNALLOC in support of
    the first two.

Details?
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Re: whereis command for TSO.

2011-10-09 Thread Scott Ford
Sounds like a good song title.


Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
 



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Subject: Re: whereis command for TSO.

In 2CCE03A07DDC46038A691B078D8EB215@ericnbPC, on 10/07/2011
   at 11:37 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said:

I use ISRDDN all the time, but I miss a lot of the single use
programs I used to have when I worked at PH before they got rid of
z/OS.

While I stopped using them once ISRDDN did the job. Different folks,
different strokes.

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Re: Fairwell to a Friend

2011-10-09 Thread Andy Robertson
Respectful sympathies to all who knew him. A very handy programmer and a 
true gentleman.
 
 
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Re: IGVINITFREEMAIN

2011-10-09 Thread Peter Relson
Doesn't SVC 99 validate its arguments?

The only way to validate an address properly is to use it and see if it 
works.
Most services will use the address, have recovery to field a program check 
due to the address being bad and provide return information to the 
caller (or percolate the resulting abend). 

No information was provided about where within IEFW21SD the program check 
occurred so it's hard to guess whether the 0C4 was due to bad user input 
or some system problem.  A symptom dump or abend dump will normally at 
least let you find out what address was bad.

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Re: Rename of DDname ?

2011-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
CAFO-8tqBiR4NAFAQSYsq=et7cl-vni-nql44dw6dg_8-ap5...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/09/2011
   at 12:42 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:

Details?

The one that I remember well is Concatenate, which concatenates
existing allocations and hides the original ddnames. There was another
one that was not well documented, and I don't recall the details, but
it was something like alternate ddname.
 
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Re: Fairwell to a Friend

2011-10-09 Thread Clark Morris
On 9 Oct 2011 06:34:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

On 10/8/2011 12:19 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:
 Received from another list:

 --
  


 To those who new him:

 Gilbert Sain-Flour passed away last night in Montauban France.

 He will be missed.


Devastating news.  Gilbert was a good friend.  I had heard he was ill 
for a while now, and I hope his passing gives him peace.  Bon voyage mon 
ami.
Can someone collect these tributes and forward them to his family? 

Regards,
Tom Conley


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Re: Fairwell to a Friend

2011-10-09 Thread Ed Finnell
I had a similar thought. If an obituary shows up in US or Canada  we can 
use obituaries.com to post remembrances or condolences. I searched for  French 
obituaries and Saint-Flour. Evidently this a leg of the Tour de  France and 
gave up after about ten pages of scrolling. Found an old  reference at the 
Palmetto Bay, FL address on myspace but it hasn't been  updated in a while.
 
 
In a message dated 10/9/2011 6:34:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca writes:

Can  someone collect these tributes and forward them to his  family?

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A little bit more about Gilbert Saint-flour

2011-10-09 Thread Sam Golob

Hi Folks,

I can't express this in a short note, but I'll say a few words, and 
maybe later I'll have a chance to say a bit more.


Gilbert was responsible for keeping the CBT Tape up for five 
years.  He supplied the MVS machine that the support ran on.  If it 
weren't for him, I doubt that the CBT site would even exist today.


We owe him a lot more than we would have thought.

Isn't that also true for most of us?  We ourselves don't appreciate 
our own value that we (each of us) adds to the world.  Gilbert, too, 
added a lot.  I miss him a ton.


All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely,Sam Golob


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LBI Performance?

2011-10-09 Thread Mingee, David
Hello All,
  Anyone had success with performance gains in run time and fewer tapes 
being created when using z/OS Large Block Interface(LBI)?  We are on R1.11 and 
have created tapes with blksize of 256k(262144) and the block count is reduced 
by a factor of 8, but we do not see any improvements in elapsed time or fewer 
tapes being created(20 output tapes at 32k and 20 output tapes at 256k).  Am I 
missing something?  IBM documentation states:

Taking advantage of LBI: You can improve the performance of tape data sets by 
using the large block interface (LBI) for large block sizes. When the LBI is 
available, the COBOL run time automatically uses this facility for those tape 
files for which you use system-determined block size. LBI is also used for 
those files for which you explicitly define a block size in JCL or a BLOCK 
CONTAINS clause. Use of the LBI allows block sizes to exceed 32760 if the tape 
device supports it.

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Re: LBI Performance?

2011-10-09 Thread Mike Schwab
Do you have both jobs?
How did the elapsed time compare?
How about the number of blocks?

(I would expect slightly more than 1/4 as many blocks on the first 19
large block tapes vs small block tapes, and a lot less blocks on the
20th large block tape since more data should have been stored on the
large block tapes.)

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Mingee, David
david.min...@libertymutual.com wrote:
 Hello All,
   Anyone had success with performance gains in run time and fewer 
 tapes being created when using z/OS Large Block Interface(LBI)?  We are on 
 R1.11 and have created tapes with blksize of 256k(262144) and the block count 
 is reduced by a factor of 8, but we do not see any improvements in elapsed 
 time or fewer tapes being created(20 output tapes at 32k and 20 output tapes 
 at 256k).  Am I missing something?  IBM documentation states:

 Taking advantage of LBI: You can improve the performance of tape data sets by 
 using the large block interface (LBI) for large block sizes. When the LBI is 
 available, the COBOL run time automatically uses this facility for those tape 
 files for which you use system-determined block size. LBI is also used for 
 those files for which you explicitly define a block size in JCL or a BLOCK 
 CONTAINS clause. Use of the LBI allows block sizes to exceed 32760 if the 
 tape device supports it.

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Re: A little bit more about Gilbert Saint-flour

2011-10-09 Thread Shane
Sam, perhaps a(nother) RIP on the front page might be appropriate ?.

Shane ...

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:43:52 -0400 Sam Golob wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
  I can't express this in a short note, but I'll say a few words,
 and maybe later I'll have a chance to say a bit more.
 
  Gilbert was responsible for keeping the CBT Tape up for five 
 years.  He supplied the MVS machine that the support ran on.  If it 
 weren't for him, I doubt that the CBT site would even exist today.
 
  We owe him a lot more than we would have thought.

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