Re: REPRO MERGECAT performance

2012-05-27 Thread Linda Mooney
Thanks, Ed.  

  

Many years ago, one of the sysprogs started using a reserved field in the 
VTOC.  Along comes SMS and all those VTOCs needed a clean up.  :)  I agree, 
it's best to leave the reserved/undocumented fields alone. 

  
Linda 


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From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:48:46 PM 
Subject: Re: REPRO MERGECAT performance 

The third vendor (NOT DINO or the other) sorry I wasn't clear on that. 
Using undocumented fields in the catalog is just plain inexcusable   
(IMO). Reserved fields are just that NO one is supposed to use them   
except IBM (IMO). 

Ed 

On May 26, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Linda Mooney wrote: 

 Hi Ed, 
 
 
 
 /snip 
 
 We took the other one and in addition there were side bennies. We 
 also got burned by an OEM that depended on some slight alterations to 
 the catalog that were really not documented 
 
 /esnip 
 
 
 
 Did you mean that you got burned by the other one (not Dino-Soft)   
 or another (3rd) vendor? 
 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 
 Linda 
 
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 From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net 
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:17:37 AM 
 Subject: Re: REPRO MERGECAT performance 
 
 Dave: 
 
 We took the other one and in addition there were side bennies. We 
 also got burned by an OEM that depended on some slight alterations to 
 the catalog that were really not documented although I think IBM and 
 the vendor agreed to disagree on the peculiarity (use of undocumented 
 fields) in the catalog. I got caught in the middle as I raised the 
 flag. IMO the vendor was at fault but its water under the bridge. I 
 will never use the other vendor again as a result (although its a 
 great vendor) I do not like getting burned. 
 
 Ed 
 
 On May 25, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: 
 
   In the spirit of evenhandedness, faster mergecat is one of the 
 good reasons to acquire T-Rexx from Dinosoft, or the other one :) 
 
 Dave Gibney 
 Information Technology Services 
 Washington State University 
 
 On May 25, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: 
 
 Can MERGECAT performance be improved by altering the buffer space 
 values for either the input or output catalog, or both? 
 
 If you have a lot of VSAM, probably not. As I recall, doing a large 
 repro mergecat with a lot of VSAM was very slow, but it was mostly 
 due to the need to go change every vvds entry. 
 
 In other words, I don't think you'll get a lot of bang for your 
 buck. 
 
 Mary Anne 
 
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Re: Transferring stuff from Mainframe to a RDz/UT clone of itself

2012-05-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
I believe that MFNetDisk could be used to replicate volumes to a PC.  I
wonder if you could convert the MFNetDisk volume file to the volume-file
format used by zPDT?

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Re: How to leave ISPF

2012-05-27 Thread Ed Gould

Paul:

I think that was because that way back when IBM had a TSO product  
called PCF.  If memory serves me one of the feature that PCF offered  
was to be able to stack commands and to separate them it used the  
field mark key as a delimiter.


Although admittedly the biggest  feature of PCF was to do data set  
dasd pooling  (it also had a few other really nice features). We used  
it as well for TSO command authorization as we hadn't gotten RACF  
yet.  The only issue I had was to change dasd meant an IPL or you had  
to have plenty of spare pools. I didn't like to zap LPA modules  
unless it was really needed and we needed another freebie from IBM to  
do that.


Ed

On May 26, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:01:13 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:



This part wasn't answered.   You need to use the field mark key
(x'1E').


Does ISPF treat it the same way that TSO does? I thought that it was
just another character except for TSO line mode.


Don't know.  But I once tried to set Field Mark as my Command
Delimiter (seemed to make sense, and semicolon is much too
valuable otherwise).  ISPF wouldn't let me do that.

-- gil

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Re: Transferring stuff from Mainframe to a RDz/UT clone of itself

2012-05-27 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@bama.ua.edu/msg124717.html

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:
 I believe that MFNetDisk could be used to replicate volumes to a PC.  I
 wonder if you could convert the MFNetDisk volume file to the volume-file
 format used by zPDT?

 Kirk Wolf
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Re: Snap dump question

2012-05-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:02:03 -0400 Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:

:I built the plist for a call to irrseq00 , I will post my code a bit later. 
Thanks for the reply

You didn't seem to set up R1 to point to it.

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Re: How to leave ISPF

2012-05-27 Thread Clark Morris
On 27 May 2012 08:43:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Paul:

I think that was because that way back when IBM had a TSO product  
called PCF.  If memory serves me one of the feature that PCF offered  
was to be able to stack commands and to separate them it used the  
field mark key as a delimiter.

Although admittedly the biggest  feature of PCF was to do data set  
dasd pooling  (it also had a few other really nice features). We used  
it as well for TSO command authorization as we hadn't gotten RACF  
yet.  The only issue I had was to change dasd meant an IPL or you had  
to have plenty of spare pools. I didn't like to zap LPA modules  
unless it was really needed and we needed another freebie from IBM to  
do that.

Ed

On May 26, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

 On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:01:13 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

 This part wasn't answered.   You need to use the field mark key
 (x'1E').

 Does ISPF treat it the same way that TSO does? I thought that it was
 just another character except for TSO line mode.

 Don't know.  But I once tried to set Field Mark as my Command
 Delimiter (seemed to make sense, and semicolon is much too
 valuable otherwise).  ISPF wouldn't let me do that.

 -- gil

AS I recall from the 1980's, I had set up the logon CLIST for most
users to immediately go into ISPF after allocations and logoff after
ISPF exit.  The proper handling of log/list defaults took care of the
problem for the most part for us (SYSOUT Z as I recall).

Clark Morris

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