Re: 7trk tape drive
To all who responded - Thank you. If you've asked questions which have gone unanswered, it is because - I don't know. Management asked a question, they didn't elaborate as to why. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: Robert A. Rosenberg [hal9...@panix.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 7trk tape drive At 12:25 PM -0400 on 7/23/10, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote about 7trk tape drive: I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Do the current generation Operating Systems even support them anymore? Or are you wanting to use them in a legacy (D)OS/360 or 370 system? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 7trk tape drive
In a message dated 7/26/2010 8:22:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, obrie...@mail.nih.gov writes: If you've asked questions which have gone unanswered, it is because - I don't know. Management asked a question, they didn't elaborate as to why. I was thinking obscure researcher in remote area published, 'I didn't find what we were looking for but did find a cure for an incurable disease. Results and data on supporting tape' -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 7trk tape drive
At 12:25 PM -0400 on 7/23/10, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote about 7trk tape drive: I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Do the current generation Operating Systems even support them anymore? Or are you wanting to use them in a legacy (D)OS/360 or 370 system? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
7trk tape drive
I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Would anyone know of one? Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 7trk tape drive
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 7trk tape drive I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Would anyone know of one? SNIP You might try asking at Goddard Space (NASA). They had some pretty old equipment. Otherwise, I would suggest looking for a Kennedy drive, but I fear they are out of business. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 7trk tape drive
In a message dated 7/23/2010 12:51:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com writes: You might try asking at Goddard Space (NASA). They had some pretty old equipment. I was thinking maybe ask a good CE or local Branch. They can look it up on HONE if they're so inclined. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 7trk tape drive
I don't think there were any 7-track drives left at Goddard when I left, and that was 1985. Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com 7/23/2010 1:51 PM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 7trk tape drive I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Would anyone know of one? SNIP You might try asking at Goddard Space (NASA). They had some pretty old equipment. Otherwise, I would suggest looking for a Kennedy drive, but I fear they are out of business. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 7trk tape drive
I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Would anyone know of one? Can we ask why someone needs a 7-track? If it is to read some old, forgotten tapes with important data, I suggest strongly that you contract with one of the companies that specialize in reading obsolete formats - the guys that have the experience and know where all the pitfalls are. Chances are these 7 track tapes are probably ancient, and will need all sorts of gentle prep work to get successful reads. If you need to write to a 7 track tape - well, that will leave most of us wondering why - but the same guys probably can do it. If it is a *very* small amount of data, I may be able to write it with an old Mohawk key to tape terminal I have, but it has been years since I played with the thing. -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 7trk tape drive
IBM Sterling Forest probably has one. They have at least one of pretty well everything in their DR center. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:05 PM, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.comwrote: I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Would anyone know of one? Can we ask why someone needs a 7-track? If it is to read some old, forgotten tapes with important data, I suggest strongly that you contract with one of the companies that specialize in reading obsolete formats - the guys that have the experience and know where all the pitfalls are. Chances are these 7 track tapes are probably ancient, and will need all sorts of gentle prep work to get successful reads. If you need to write to a 7 track tape - well, that will leave most of us wondering why - but the same guys probably can do it. If it is a *very* small amount of data, I may be able to write it with an old Mohawk key to tape terminal I have, but it has been years since I played with the thing. -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 7trk tape drive
On 23 July 2010 18:05, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 July 2010 12:25, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote: I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Would anyone know of one? Can we ask why someone needs a 7-track? If it is to read some old, forgotten tapes with important data, I suggest strongly that you contract with one of the companies that specialize in reading obsolete formats - the guys that have the experience and know where all the pitfalls are. Chances are these 7 track tapes are probably ancient, and will need all sorts of gentle prep work to get successful reads. The trick is to find a place that has built a GMR-heads based drive. The 7-track -- and indeed all round tape -- technology precedes the invention (or at least commercialization) of GMR heads (Wikipedia has 1988 for the invention/discovery of GMR), and so requires fairly high tape speeds for the magneto-inductive heads in question, with the related risk of physical damage. GMR allows, in theory, infinitely slow movement of the tape past the read heads, and is thus much more likely not to damage the tape, even if multiple passes are required for various reasons. If you need to write to a 7 track tape - well, that will leave most of us wondering why - but the same guys probably can do it. If it is a *very* small amount of data, I may be able to write it with an old Mohawk key to tape terminal I have, but it has been years since I played with the thing. The mind boggles at the notion of there being a business case for writing 7-track tapes. Hobbyists I can understand; nih.gov would be another thing entirely. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
