Re: A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d9901...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 02/14/2011 at 11:51 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: Or that AIX port that ran on the S/390 whose name I can't recall off-hand. My recollection is that there was an AIX/370 and an AIX/ESA, neither of which used the code base from the RS/6000 version. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions)
roflmao thnx I needed a laugh IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/14/2011 09:01:06 PM: From: Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net Well, I think the whole subject zUX. - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions)
John Having just spent a hour or so dealing with a *real* - VTAM - problem - are there any others out there? - I peeked at the archives - since I'm an archives man for IBM-MAIN, none of your floods of e-mails, thank you - and spotted a post from Mary Anne Matyaz - whose name will be forever bound with the ambiguity at the heart of this topic whether she like it or not - and you. Opening hers first I saw that she was determined firmly to stand on the quicksand and her excuse was the shortness of a 3-letter acronym versus 20 keystrokes (including the blanks). Since it seemed possible you were about to reply to this, I anticipated you would reiterate your adherence to z/OS UNIX, down to 9 characters including the blank. Disappointment! Then I wondered whether or not you had ever encountered zUNIX - 5 characters and getting quite close to the so much favoured 3 characters - which I think I saw suggested somewhere and found actually used in an APAR. Perhaps the 5-character zUNIX is what Mary Anne needs to rescue her from the slough of ambiguity. Incidentally, your sample ambiguous Subject can go as far as including the word command or message and still beguile the wrong audience. If I cannot understand the question, or even the context into which the question should be placed, I ignore it completely. I believe the list wouldn't work if we didn't all follow this precept. Talk about flood of e-mails! Chris Mason On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:28:40 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I would hope that context would make it clear (as it is here since HFS in IBM- MAIN is unique and unlikely to refer the MAC OS HFS filesystem) as to whether a question is about UNIX or VTAM. Unfortunately, at times, I have seen a message similar to the following: Problem with USS. Please help!!! and that is the complete message. Of course, being the louse that I am, I simply ignore those messages. If I cannot understand the question, or even the context into which the question should be placed, I ignore it completely. And the above example, I don't know if the person is having a problem with z/OS VTAM, z/OS UNIX, z/VM VTAM or the U.S. Navy. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HFS file questions LOL. You can post all the links you want, the simple fact of the matter is, USS IS the Acronym, or more precisely, the initialism of Unix Systems Services. Your argument is actually whether it's an 'approved' acronym. Personally, I don't really care. Unix Systems Services is too damn long and I will continue to use USS. (The initialism, not the acronym). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions)
zUNIX is pretty decent. I hadn't seen it before. And it's only two more characters than USS with little chance of misunderstanding or collision at this point. I like it! I may start using it. And hope nobody confuses it with z/Linux. Or that AIX port that ran on the S/390 whose name I can't recall off-hand. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions)
John And hope nobody confuses it with z/Linux. Well Google does! Try Googling zUNIX IBM. Google does its Are you having finger-trouble? trick! Or that AIX port that ran on the S/390 ... ... whose name I can't recall off-hand. Which may be all you need not to have to worry about it! Chris Mason On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:51:18 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: zUNIX is pretty decent. I hadn't seen it before. And it's only two more characters than USS with little chance of misunderstanding or collision at this point. I like it! I may start using it. And hope nobody confuses it with z/Linux. Or that AIX port that ran on the S/390 whose name I can't recall off-hand. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions)
Well, I think the whole subject zUX. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions) John And hope nobody confuses it with z/Linux. Well Google does! Try Googling zUNIX IBM. Google does its Are you having finger-trouble? trick! Or that AIX port that ran on the S/390 ... ... whose name I can't recall off-hand. Which may be all you need not to have to worry about it! Chris Mason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions)
On 2/14/2011 7:01 PM, Ron Hawkins wrote: Well, I think the whole subject zUX. ROTFL! Right. Let's keep some perspective here! -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
A better abbreviation (was HFS file questions)
Mary Ann Can we not simply realize that there are two meanings for the acronym USS and deal with it? I'm taking this post as a chance to point out that the proposal to assign zUNIX to z/OS UNIX System Services and leave the technique used by VTAM and the TN3270E server which allows a character string to be converted to a formatted request or session setup and having session setup information presented as messages happily alone and undisturbed is indeed - as you here earnestly request - dealing with the two meanings problem - simply realised! Chris Mason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions)
Ron Actually I had a private note suggesting this on the basis that Hewlett- Packard had HPUX, offering thanks that the two components of the company name are in the order they are. I didn't see you copied, so I guess it's a case of mischievous minds think alike. Chris Mason On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:01:06 -0800, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Well, I think the whole subject zUX. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Jokes with no relevance whatsoever (Was: A better abbreviation (Was: HFS file questions))
Steve and Ron This reminds me of the opening sequence of the film Getting Straight which is of a student protest. The camera is close to the students and one placard goes past with the words Gravity is a lie filling the screen. The student turns round off camera and comes back so that the reverse side of the placard comes into view: The earth sucks. I thought you might enjoy that - apropos of nothing in particular. Chris Mason On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:25:08 -0700, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: On 2/14/2011 7:01 PM, Ron Hawkins wrote: Well, I think the whole subject zUX. ROTFL! Right. Let's keep some perspective here! -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
