Re: CA mainframe install software
In b282be35b5a4494894d4ecfba2bf784715a26b6...@xch-nw-17v.nw.nos.boeing.com, on 12/21/2009 at 11:18 AM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com said: It was called CA-Activator. Google for Haddock's Eyes. Its *name* was CA-Activator; it was called aggrevator and possibly other names less polite. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:18:51 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: It was called CA-Activator. By whom? CA, for one. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
Barry at least answered an asked question. There have been other posts in this thread I would judge a more egregious waste of bandwidth. My two cents, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Co. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of P S Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:03 PM Well, given that the question was answered multiple times two weeks ago, I'm guessing that Paul was replying tongue-in-cheek. Why DID you waste the bandwidth, anyway? Just wondering... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
Don't you mean CA Aggravator ??? :-) Rick - Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:18:51 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: It was called CA-Activator. By whom? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Don't you mean CA Aggravator ??? :-) montypython Wait, haven't we done this? Oh, yes, sorry. /montypython -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
It was called CA-Activator. -Original Message- In listserv%200912081359163671.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 12/08/2009 at 01:59 PM, Mark H. Young mark.yo...@fairfaxcounty.gov said: Back in the day when CA (Computer Associates) would send you some of their mainframe software, they also included their own homegrown installation software to use. Anyone remember the name of it? As I recall, it was really bad and almost no one ever used it. They only made jokes about how bad it was. Even CA employees were advising against aggravator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:18:51 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: It was called CA-Activator. By whom? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
By the people who published the user manual for it. Was there some part of the question I responded to that was unclear? Did your system strip the question off? (It showed up in my copy of the message so I know the listserve didn't delete it.) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA mainframe install software On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:18:51 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: It was called CA-Activator. By whom? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote: By the people who published the user manual for it. Was there some part of the question I responded to that was unclear? Did your system strip the question off? (It showed up in my copy of the message so I know the listserve didn't delete it.) Well, given that the question was answered multiple times two weeks ago, I'm guessing that Paul was replying tongue-in-cheek. Why DID you waste the bandwidth, anyway? Just wondering... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On 12/18/2009 07:24 AM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: In listserv%200912081359163671.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 12/08/2009 at 01:59 PM, Mark H. Young mark.yo...@fairfaxcounty.gov said: Back in the day when CA (Computer Associates) would send you some of their mainframe software, they also included their own homegrown installation software to use. Anyone remember the name of it? As I recall, it was really bad and almost no one ever used it. They only made jokes about how bad it was. Even CA employees were advising against aggravator. My main objection to the old installation software was not whether it did or did not work, but a strong aversion to the concept of each vendor developing and expecting their customers to deal with their own unique proprietary interface into SMP/E, rather than just finding ways to fit their installation procedures into universally available existing ISPF SMP/E dialogs. It may have seemed cool to CA support people who only dealt with CA's conventions, but for customer sysprogs dealing with many other vendors, uniqueness is not appreciated. Also, when there are local installation standards on maintenance, one has to first decipher what vendor front-ends are doing well enough to understand whether they are in compliance with local standards or whether you must modify or suppress some of what they attempt to do. -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, ARjremoveccapsew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
In listserv%200912081359163671.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 12/08/2009 at 01:59 PM, Mark H. Young mark.yo...@fairfaxcounty.gov said: Back in the day when CA (Computer Associates) would send you some of their mainframe software, they also included their own homegrown installation software to use. Anyone remember the name of it? As I recall, it was really bad and almost no one ever used it. They only made jokes about how bad it was. Even CA employees were advising against aggravator. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:53:31 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Once they're uploaded to the mainframe, why can't one tell MSM that the server is localhost and omit the inserting ... manually operation? Because the information that tells CA MSM what the package is and where to insert the package is not within the package, it is on support online. Scott Fagen Chief Architect CA Mainframe Products -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:30:09 -0600, Scott Fagen wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:53:31 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Once they're uploaded to the mainframe, why can't one tell MSM that the server is localhost and omit the inserting ... manually operation? Because the information that tells CA MSM what the package is and where to insert the package is not within the package, it is on support online. Bummer. Sounds like an area for a potential enhancement. Particularly, where to insert the package sounds like something the customer would like to control. What are the implications for a fourth-party ISV who'd like to piggyback on MSM. Is support online a web service that such an ISV would need to provide? Is it even configurable within the end customer's MSM profile? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
I also used Activator and had no problems with it at all. Michael Schmutzok Sr Systems Programmer Shands HealthCare (352) 265-0680 x85465 Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com 12/8/2009 3:18 PM A long time ago, I set up Activator. I never had any problems with it - it seemed to work fine. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer IBM MVS Technical Services Dubuque, Iowa 563-845-4363 David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: No doubt you'll stir up many people who remember CA-Aggravator (um, Activator). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Schmutzok, Michael TEL;WORK:(352) 265-0680 x8-5465 ORG:Shands HealthCare;Systems Software Support EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:sch...@shands.ufl.edu N:Schmutzok;Michael TITLE:Mainframe System Admin L3 ADR;INTL;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL:;Room 3150;1329 SW 16th St;Gainesville;FL;32608-1128;US LABEL;INTL;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Schmutzok, Michael=0A= Room 3150=0A= 1329 SW 16th St=0A= Gainesville, FL 32608-1128=0A= US LABEL;DOM;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Schmutzok, Michael=0A= Room 3150=0A= 1329 SW 16th St=0A= Gainesville, FL 32608-1128 TEL;PREF:(352) 265-0680 x85465 END:VCARD -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:12:11 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Does it still require a direct Internet connection between the user's mainframe and the CA server? On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:19:22 -0500, Fletcher, Kevin kevin_fletc...@conseco.com wrote: One of the pre-reqs is to connect to the CA FTP Server, for CA software. While MSM is far more useful if you allow it to connect to support.ca.com over the internet, there's nothing that prevents you from downloading the packages (base install and/or PTFs) in some other way, uploading them to the mainframe, and then inserting them into MSM manually. Scott Fagen Chief Architect CA Mainframe Products -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:47:08 -0600, Scott Fagen wrote: One of the pre-reqs is to connect to the CA FTP Server, for CA software. While MSM is far more useful if you allow it to connect to support.ca.com over the internet, there's nothing that prevents you from downloading the packages (base install and/or PTFs) in some other way, uploading them to the mainframe, and then inserting them into MSM manually. Once they're uploaded to the mainframe, why can't one tell MSM that the server is localhost and omit the inserting ... manually operation? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CA mainframe install software
This is an old school question. Back in the day when CA (Computer Associates) would send you some of their mainframe software, they also included their own homegrown installation software to use. Anyone remember the name of it? As I recall, it was really bad and almost no one ever used it. They only made jokes about how bad it was. Do I sound way too out there or just insane? THANX and TTFN, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
We've not forgotten. Officially it was Activator, referred to as Aggrivater -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark H. Young Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 13:59 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CA mainframe install software This is an old school question. Back in the day when CA (Computer Associates) would send you some of their mainframe software, they also included their own homegrown installation software to use. Anyone remember the name of it? As I recall, it was really bad and almost no one ever used it. They only made jokes about how bad it was. Do I sound way too out there or just insane? THANX and TTFN, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
CA-ACTIVATOR aka AGGRAVATOR Tried it once, didn't work so I just did it the 'old school' way. IIRC it was from the Product Integration Group and was known somewhat formally as PIGWARE. They even had a newsletter called the PIG PEN. -Original Message- Mark H. Young Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] CA mainframe install software This is an old school question. Back in the day when CA (Computer Associates) would send you some of their mainframe software, they also included their own homegrown installation software to use. Anyone remember the name of it? As I recall, it was really bad and almost no one ever used it. They only made jokes about how bad it was. Do I sound way too out there or just insane? THANX and TTFN, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 14:59 -0500, Mark H. Young wrote: Anyone remember the name of it? [...] only made jokes No doubt you'll stir up many people who remember CA-Aggravator (um, Activator). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
That would probably be CA-Aggravator I mean CA-Activator -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark H. Young Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CA mainframe install software This is an old school question. Back in the day when CA (Computer Associates) would send you some of their mainframe software, they also included their own homegrown installation software to use. Anyone remember the name of it? As I recall, it was really bad and almost no one ever used it. They only made jokes about how bad it was. Do I sound way too out there or just insane? THANX and TTFN, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Email Firewall made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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A long time ago, I set up Activator. I never had any problems with it - it seemed to work fine. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer IBM MVS Technical Services Dubuque, Iowa 563-845-4363 David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: No doubt you'll stir up many people who remember CA-Aggravator (um, Activator). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
Thank you all for the CA-Activator (Aggrivator) responses. I'm wondering if Activator was the basis for CA-Mainframe 2.0 ?? Just heard about CA-Mainframe 2.0 from my boss, so I know nothing at this point so far. TTFN, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
for Ca-Mainframe 2.0's sake, I hope not . (i only heard less that positive things about Activator as far base as the early 1990s ...) Chris Hoelscher Senior IDMS DB2 Database Administrator Humana Inc 502-476-2538 choelsc...@humana.com you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly I'm wondering if Activator was the basis for CA-Mainframe 2.0 ?? The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
I doubt it. I think they even mentioned that it was totally new in their presentation on it. CA-MSM (Mainframe Software Manager?) is probably much more like the SERVERPAC dialogs with integrated SHOPZ capability. I haven't heard anything bad about it yet but I haven't tried it yet either. -Original Message- Mark H. Young Thank you all for the CA-Activator (Aggrivator) responses. I'm wondering if Activator was the basis for CA-Mainframe 2.0 ?? Just heard about CA-Mainframe 2.0 from my boss, so I know nothing at this point so far. TTFN, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld A long time ago, I set up Activator. I never had any problems with it - it seemed to work fine. You must have read *all* the obstructions. :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA mainframe install software I doubt it. I think they even mentioned that it was totally new in their presentation on it. CA-MSM (Mainframe Software Manager?) is probably much more like the SERVERPAC dialogs with integrated SHOPZ capability. I haven't heard anything bad about it yet but I haven't tried it yet either. Does it still require a direct Internet connection between the user's mainframe and the CA server? That is a drop dead for us. To use ShopzSeries, I must use DownloadDirector on my Linux desktop to get the data to it. I then use NFS to get the data to the mainframe. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
snip Does it still require a direct Internet connection between the user's mainframe and the CA server? That is a drop dead for us. To use ShopzSeries, I must use DownloadDirector on my Linux desktop to get the data to it. I then use NFS to get the data to the mainframe. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT /snip John, One of the pre-reqs is to connect to the CA FTP Server, for CA software. The door appears to be open to install other ISV products (SMPE) also, still playing with it and learning UNIX and the GUI are a lot of fun. Sort of annoys the windows people we have a MF based server with a GUI interface. The perks with this job never end :-) Thanks, Kevin Fletcher (317) 817-3545 Transition Coordinator z/OS, DB2, AS400 support Conseco, LLC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:12:11 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA mainframe install software I doubt it. I think they even mentioned that it was totally new in their presentation on it. CA-MSM (Mainframe Software Manager?) is probably much more like the SERVERPAC dialogs with integrated SHOPZ capability. Not really. I haven't heard anything bad about it yet but I haven't tried it yet either. Does it still require a direct Internet connection between the user's mainframe and the CA server? That is a drop dead for us. To use ShopzSeries, I must use DownloadDirector on my Linux desktop to get the data to it. I then use NFS to get the data to the mainframe. Yes. For those who haven't seen it in action, I thought the demo during the keynote from Scott Fagen was on the web (SHARE web site?). Or there is info on CA's web site. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
CA Mainframe Manager is a totally new from the ground up solution designed to help experienced and new folks coming to the platform for acquiring, installing, maintaining, and ultimately deploying and configuring mainframe software. It is included with Common Services, so no new costs for the customer. The MSM UI is a very inutitive task oriented solution that simplifies the entire process and therefore saves time. You should ask your account team for a presentation and demo. Or better yet, try it on your own sandbox. It runs completely on z/OS, so need for additional servers. znor...@ca.com -Original Message- From: Ken Porowski [mailto:ken.porow...@cit.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 03:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA mainframe install software I doubt it. I think they even mentioned that it was totally new in their presentation on it. CA-MSM (Mainframe Software Manager?) is probably much more like the SERVERPAC dialogs with integrated SHOPZ capability. I haven't heard anything bad about it yet but I haven't tried it yet either. -Original Message- Mark H. Young Thank you all for the CA-Activator (Aggrivator) responses. I'm wondering if Activator was the basis for CA-Mainframe 2.0 ?? Just heard about CA-Mainframe 2.0 from my boss, so I know nothing at this point so far. TTFN, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:12:11 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Does it still require a direct Internet connection between the user's mainframe and the CA server? That is a drop dead for us. To use ShopzSeries, I must use DownloadDirector on my Linux desktop to get the data to it. I then use NFS to get the data to the mainframe. If one's management (not yours) allowed one to run an FTP server on one's desktop, on could use that desktop as the SERVER for RECEIVE FROMNETWORK. If one can run an NFS server, one could likewise use localhost as the SERVER for RECEIVE FROMNETWORK (although RECEIVE FROMNTS is shorter in that case). Perhaps Scott Fagen will comment on whether MSM is compatible with such a configuration. I believe MSM attempts to put us a few steps closer to The Great SMPPTS in the Sky. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA mainframe install software
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:12:11 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Does it still require a direct Internet connection between the user's mainframe and the CA server? That is a drop dead for us. To use ShopzSeries, I must use DownloadDirector on my Linux desktop to get the data to it. I then use NFS to get the data to the mainframe. In fact, much of the answer was implicit in Scott Fagen's posting to this list on Dec. 1. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
