Re: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-03-18 Thread Nicholas Carbone
The CEEDOPT syntax which includes the '=' sign and the OVR|NONOVR suboption
is not permitted in CEEPRM00.

Rick Fochtman wrote:

In this example you post, your parentheses are badly out of balance.
Could that be a contributing factor ??

John Kelly wrote:

I am attempting to put in CEEPRM00 and I am having syntax/usage
problem(s). The initTuning manual implies that
 The valid options for each group in a parmlib member are the same
options that are valid in the Assembler parts of the same name and the
assembler example is :
CEEDOPT  CSECT
CEEDOPT  AMODE ANY
CEEDOPT  RMODE ANY
 CEEXOPT ABPERC=((NONE),OVR),
 ABTERMENC=((ABEND),OVR),

So using the CEEPRM00 example and our usermod parms, I coded

CEEDOPT(
ABPERC((NONE),OVR),
ABTERMENC((ABEND),OVR),

when I set the member (t cee=01), I receive the rather obtuse message that
indicate that the member has errors. Line number would a good addition but
I digress. The message go for a while and I think that it doesn't like the
OVR sub option? Any help available ?
The error messages, for the first option, I think, are:

CEE3731I THE FOLLOWING MESSAGES PERTAIN TO THE SYSTEM DEFAULT RUN-TIME
OPTIONS IN THE OPTIONS GROUP CEEDOPT IN PARMLIB MEMBER
CEEPRM01
CEE3604I THE CHARACTOR '(' IS NOT A VALID SUBOPTION DELIMITER FOR RUN-TIME
OPTIONS.
CEE3612I TOO MANY SUBOPTIONS WERE SPECIFIED FOR THE RUN-TIME OPTION ABPERC
.
CEE3603I THE CHARACTOR ')' IS NOT A VALID RUN-TIME OPTION DELIMITER.
CEE3611I THE RUN-TIME OPTION OVR WAS AN INVALID RUN-TIME OPTION OR IS
NOT SUPPORTED IN THIS RELEASE OF LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT.


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CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-01-06 Thread John Kelly
I am attempting to put in CEEPRM00 and I am having syntax/usage 
problem(s). The initTuning manual implies that 
 The valid options for each group in a parmlib member are the same 
options that are valid in the Assembler parts of the same name and the 
assembler example is : 
CEEDOPT  CSECT  
CEEDOPT  AMODE ANY  
CEEDOPT  RMODE ANY  
 CEEXOPT ABPERC=((NONE),OVR),  
 ABTERMENC=((ABEND),OVR),

So using the CEEPRM00 example and our usermod parms, I coded

CEEDOPT( 
ABPERC((NONE),OVR), 
ABTERMENC((ABEND),OVR), 

when I set the member (t cee=01), I receive the rather obtuse message that 
indicate that the member has errors. Line number would a good addition but 
I digress. The message go for a while and I think that it doesn't like the 
OVR sub option? Any help available ?
The error messages, for the first option, I think, are:

CEE3731I THE FOLLOWING MESSAGES PERTAIN TO THE SYSTEM DEFAULT RUN-TIME
OPTIONS IN THE OPTIONS GROUP CEEDOPT IN PARMLIB MEMBER 
CEEPRM01
CEE3604I THE CHARACTOR '(' IS NOT A VALID SUBOPTION DELIMITER FOR RUN-TIME 
OPTIONS.
CEE3612I TOO MANY SUBOPTIONS WERE SPECIFIED FOR THE RUN-TIME OPTION ABPERC
.
CEE3603I THE CHARACTOR ')' IS NOT A VALID RUN-TIME OPTION DELIMITER.
CEE3611I THE RUN-TIME OPTION OVR WAS AN INVALID RUN-TIME OPTION OR IS
NOT SUPPORTED IN THIS RELEASE OF LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT. 


Jack Kelly
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Re: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:18:58 -0500, John Kelly john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov
wrote:

I am attempting to put in CEEPRM00 and I am having syntax/usage
problem(s). The initTuning manual implies that
 The valid options for each group in a parmlib member are the same
options that are valid in the Assembler parts of the same name and the
assembler example is :

snip

OVR is not valid for CEEPRMxx.For a sample member see the
fine manual or hlq.SCEESAMP(CEEPRM00).

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Re: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-01-06 Thread John Kelly
snip
OVR is not valid for CEEPRMxx.For a sample member see the fine 
manual or hlq.SCEESAMP(CEEPRM00).
unsnip

Hi Mark, 

I was leaning toward that conclusion except the example for 
CEECOPT ( 
has 
NOAUTOTASK=(OVR), 
  but I'm sure that you are right though. Other than the pecking order for 
which option take precedence, are all of the CEEPRM00 parm override(able)? 
Or can I force some options not to be overridden (NONOVR )? I can't find a 
document that describes what can be done and what can't. The LE and 
InitTuning gives examples and the LE describes what can be done in the 
exit but nada for CEEPRM00.
Thanks yet again 


Jack Kelly
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Re: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-01-06 Thread Greg Shirey
I think you are looking at the CSECT example, not the CEEPRM00 example.


According to the z/OS 1.9 LE Customization FM: 

| The OVR and NONOVR keywords cannot be specified on the options in a 
| PARMLIB member. All run-time options specified in a PARMLIB member can

| be overridden by default. 

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ceea5180/2.1.
2?SHELF=EZ2ZO10KDT=20070428050630

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Co. 
 

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snip
OVR is not valid for CEEPRMxx.For a sample member see the fine 
manual or hlq.SCEESAMP(CEEPRM00).
unsnip

Hi Mark, 

I was leaning toward that conclusion except the example for 
CEECOPT ( 
has 
NOAUTOTASK=(OVR), 
  but I'm sure that you are right though. Other than the pecking order
for 
which option take precedence, are all of the CEEPRM00 parm
override(able)? 
Or can I force some options not to be overridden (NONOVR )? I can't find
a 
document that describes what can be done and what can't. The LE and 
InitTuning gives examples and the LE describes what can be done in the 
exit but nada for CEEPRM00.

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Re: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-01-06 Thread John Kelly
Thanks Gregg that was the specification that I was looking for. I 
certainly missed that in the CD that I have.

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Re: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-01-06 Thread Don Imbriale
The LE customization guide discusses the CEEPRMxx member.  If nothing other 
than CEEPRMxx is used, then all options can be overridden.  You would need a 
combination of the CEExOPT modules and CEEPRMxx PARMLIB members.

Don Imbriale

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:42:25 -0500, John Kelly 
john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov wrote:

snip
OVR is not valid for CEEPRMxx.For a sample member see the fine
manual or hlq.SCEESAMP(CEEPRM00).
unsnip

Hi Mark,

I was leaning toward that conclusion except the example for
CEECOPT (
has
NOAUTOTASK=(OVR),
  but I'm sure that you are right though. Other than the pecking order for
which option take precedence, are all of the CEEPRM00 parm override(able)?
Or can I force some options not to be overridden (NONOVR )? I can't find a
document that describes what can be done and what can't. The LE and
InitTuning gives examples and the LE describes what can be done in the
exit but nada for CEEPRM00.
Thanks yet again



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Re: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-01-06 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Kelly
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:19 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)
 
 I am attempting to put in CEEPRM00 and I am having syntax/usage
 problem(s). The initTuning manual implies that
  The valid options for each group in a parmlib member are the same
 options that are valid in the Assembler parts of the same name and
the
 assembler example is :
 CEEDOPT  CSECT
 CEEDOPT  AMODE ANY
 CEEDOPT  RMODE ANY
  CEEXOPT ABPERC=((NONE),OVR),
  ABTERMENC=((ABEND),OVR),
 
 So using the CEEPRM00 example and our usermod parms, I coded
 
 CEEDOPT(
 ABPERC((NONE),OVR),
 ABTERMENC((ABEND),OVR),

Try it without the OVR specification and extra parens:

  CEEDOPT(  
  ABPERC(NONE), 
  ABTERMENC(ABEND),

CEEPRMxx _is_ an override..

-jc-

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Re: CEEPRM00 for dummies (me)

2009-01-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
In this example you post, your parentheses are badly out of balance. 
Could that be a contributing factor ??


John Kelly wrote:

I am attempting to put in CEEPRM00 and I am having syntax/usage 
problem(s). The initTuning manual implies that 
 The valid options for each group in a parmlib member are the same 
options that are valid in the Assembler parts of the same name and the 
assembler example is : 
CEEDOPT  CSECT  
CEEDOPT  AMODE ANY  
CEEDOPT  RMODE ANY  
CEEXOPT ABPERC=((NONE),OVR),  
ABTERMENC=((ABEND),OVR),


So using the CEEPRM00 example and our usermod parms, I coded

CEEDOPT( 
   ABPERC((NONE),OVR), 
   ABTERMENC((ABEND),OVR), 

when I set the member (t cee=01), I receive the rather obtuse message that 
indicate that the member has errors. Line number would a good addition but 
I digress. The message go for a while and I think that it doesn't like the 
OVR sub option? Any help available ?

The error messages, for the first option, I think, are:

CEE3731I THE FOLLOWING MESSAGES PERTAIN TO THE SYSTEM DEFAULT RUN-TIME
   OPTIONS IN THE OPTIONS GROUP CEEDOPT IN PARMLIB MEMBER 
CEEPRM01
CEE3604I THE CHARACTOR '(' IS NOT A VALID SUBOPTION DELIMITER FOR RUN-TIME 
OPTIONS.

CEE3612I TOO MANY SUBOPTIONS WERE SPECIFIED FOR THE RUN-TIME OPTION ABPERC
.
CEE3603I THE CHARACTOR ')' IS NOT A VALID RUN-TIME OPTION DELIMITER.
CEE3611I THE RUN-TIME OPTION OVR WAS AN INVALID RUN-TIME OPTION OR IS
   NOT SUPPORTED IN THIS RELEASE OF LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT. 
   


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