Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Ed Gould]

John,


At the time we used Panvalet and it was extremely simple to use it.  
The (probably) only real advantage of Panvalet at the time, simple  
and straight forward.

We also had strict job card rules which made it a lot easier to insert .

I never cared for IEBEDIT myself. Especially since Panvalet was  
simple to use.
Our jobcard standards was cumbersome but it helped out the accounting  
people so one really can't complain.

Ed

On May 14, 2012, at 11:28 AM, John Gilmore wrote:


People who are familiar with and knowledgeable about IEBEDIT make
significant use of it.  Others of course do not.

This difference is largely generational.  When SYSGENs were still
required their stage 2s, the job streams generated by the expansion of
the system-defining stage 1 macro instructions, often failed (chiefly
but not only because real DASD storage requirements had been
underestimated).  It was then necessary to restart this job stream,
beginning typically with the failing job step (and altered DD
statements for one or more data sets).  In these circumstances one
necessarily became very familiar with IEBEDIT, which was used to edit
the stage 2 job stream to produce a recovery one.

It remains a useful utility, and those who don't use it should study
the few manual pages that describe it.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <4fb145d3.7090...@valley.net>, on 05/14/2012
   at 01:50 PM, Gerhard Postpischil  said:

>However, for INTRDR the class is ignored. 

No; it becomes the default MSGCLASS.
 
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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Mansi Kulkarni]

Hi,
  Actually i am taking training at Techrel, Pune.. All is new to me of
mainframe, and practicing that. I was doing simple program of IEBEDIT
utility.. Thank u for giving explanation.

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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Jake anderson]

Dear All,

The subject header deals with CSVedit not with IEBEDIT.

Mansi,

Can't you create a new thread 

Jake

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Scott Ford  wrote:

> Mansi,
>
> Please try to explain what your trying to do..it is not clear from you post
>
> Scott ford
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> On May 14, 2012, at 12:15 AM, Mansi Kulkarni  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >   Sir can u tell me program of IEBEDIT utility in JCL.. Plz give all
> > details of steps please...
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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Scott Ford]

Mansi,

Please try to explain what your trying to do..it is not clear from you post

Scott ford
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On May 14, 2012, at 12:15 AM, Mansi Kulkarni  wrote:

> Hi,
>   Sir can u tell me program of IEBEDIT utility in JCL.. Plz give all
> details of steps please...
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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Gerhard Postpischil]

On 5/14/2012 12:50 PM, Mansi Kulkarni wrote:

Sir, In IEBEDIT utility of JCL  Statement //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR) is
used. Ok. In this Plz explain why used  * here, if we write any character
there then also program run. What is  *  her? I thing it is for priority
like we used class in job statement. Am i write?


No. Traditionally SYSOUT was a single character in the range A-Z 
and 0-9. Several decades ago IBM added * top copy the MSGCLASS 
as the SYSOUT class.  However, for INTRDR the class is ignored. 
Try to use google to have your basic questions answered.


Gerhard Postpischil
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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Clark Morris]

On 14 May 2012 09:52:02 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>Sir, In IEBEDIT utility of JCL  Statement //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR) is
>used. Ok. In this Plz explain why used  * here, if we write any character
>there then also program run. What is  *  her? I thing it is for priority
>like we used class in job statement. Am i write?
>
So how does any of this relate to dealing with comma separated values
using COBOL.  I would expect discussions of UNSTRING and STRING versus
the use of reference modification (FIELD-NAME (position length)).  

Clark Morris 

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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[McKown, John]

As documented in the JCL manual, using an * in the sysout class position of a 
SYSOUT= makes the class the same value as in the MSGCLASS= parameter on the job 
card. It is usually done so that a PROC can use SYSOUT=* to direct sysout to 
the same output class as the JCL message. 

It has a slightly different meaning in a SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR) in that when the 
INTRDR is specified in order to submit jobs, the class specified in the sysout 
position is taken as the default MSGCLASS= of all jobs submitted via that 
INTRDR. So, if the JCL being submitted does not have a MSGCLASS= parameter, the 
SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR) says to make the default MSGCLASS= of the submitted job(s) 
the same as the MSGCLASS= of the submitting job.

Yes, you may put in any valid SYSOUT class instead of the *. And it will then 
become the default MSGCLASS= for all jobs submitted via that internal reader.

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> Subject: Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL
> 
> Sir, In IEBEDIT utility of JCL  Statement //SYSUT2 DD 
> SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR) is
> used. Ok. In this Plz explain why used  * here, if we write 
> any character
> there then also program run. What is  *  her? I thing it is 
> for priority
> like we used class in job statement. Am i write?
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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Mansi Kulkarni]

Sir, In IEBEDIT utility of JCL  Statement //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR) is
used. Ok. In this Plz explain why used  * here, if we write any character
there then also program run. What is  *  her? I thing it is for priority
like we used class in job statement. Am i write?

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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[John Gilmore]

People who are familiar with and knowledgeable about IEBEDIT make
significant use of it.  Others of course do not.

This difference is largely generational.  When SYSGENs were still
required their stage 2s, the job streams generated by the expansion of
the system-defining stage 1 macro instructions, often failed (chiefly
but not only because real DASD storage requirements had been
underestimated).  It was then necessary to restart this job stream,
beginning typically with the failing job step (and altered DD
statements for one or more data sets).  In these circumstances one
necessarily became very familiar with IEBEDIT, which was used to edit
the stage 2 job stream to produce a recovery one.

It remains a useful utility, and those who don't use it should study
the few manual pages that describe it.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[McKown, John]

It is completely documented starting here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2u160/5.0
They even show examples. I have never used IEBEDIT myself.

Too bad we can't get Apple to port Siri to answer these questions. They show a 
definite lack of ambition to search the extensive documentation. "Spoon 
feeding" is OK for MS-Windows users. z/OS professionals need a bit more 
ambition. Yea, it's been a bad day, even this early.

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> 
> Hi,
>Sir can u tell me program of IEBEDIT utility in JCL.. Plz give all
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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Jake anderson]

Mansi,

Please try to create a new thread when you have any new question. Please
don't dilute your post with the original post.

Well for IEBEDIT the below link would give you more examples on IEBEDIT.

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Mark Douglas (CITEC) <
mark.doug...@citec.com.au> wrote:

> Google is your friend:
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.idau100%2Fu1103.htm
>
>
> MARK DOUGLAS
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> Subject: Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL
>
> Hi,
>   Sir can u tell me program of IEBEDIT utility in JCL.. Plz give all
> details of steps please...
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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Mark Douglas (CITEC)]

Google is your friend: 
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.idau100%2Fu1103.htm


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Subject: Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

Hi,
   Sir can u tell me program of IEBEDIT utility in JCL.. Plz give all
details of steps please...

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Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

[Mansi Kulkarni]

Hi,
   Sir can u tell me program of IEBEDIT utility in JCL.. Plz give all
details of steps please...

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