Re: Catalog Search Interface (IGGCSI00) & ALTER Access

2008-04-21 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:56:38 -0400, Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We are removing unnecessary ALTER access permissions to catalogs in a RACF
>protected environment. In investigating why certain users were using ALTER
>access, we noticed that the number of times these users accessed the
>catalogs at ALTER corresponded exactly with the number of times they invoked
>the Catalog Search Interface IGGCSI00. Based on further testing and
>observation, we have surmised that when a user with ALTER access permission
>to a catalog invokes IGGCSI00, the catalog is accessed at the ALTER level.
>Conversely, when a user with less than ALTER access permission invokes
>IGGCSI00, the catalog is accessed at READ.
>
>There doesn't appear to be any difference in behavior or added functionality
>when IGGCSI00 accesses the catalog at ALTER as opposed to READ, so we are
>wondering why it does so.
>

Even LISTCAT will require ALTER to retrieve certain data, Bob.   Many
(most?) catalog information retrieval requests determine whether the user
has ALTER, and if not then check for READ.  If the user does have ALTER,
then more information may be returned.   Catalog processing has always
worked that way, as far as I know, and it's the main reason that using
WARNING on a RACF profile protecting a catalog gives results that most
customers do not like.

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Catalog Search Interface (IGGCSI00) & ALTER Access

2008-04-21 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Greetings all,

We are removing unnecessary ALTER access permissions to catalogs in a RACF
protected environment. In investigating why certain users were using ALTER
access, we noticed that the number of times these users accessed the
catalogs at ALTER corresponded exactly with the number of times they invoked
the Catalog Search Interface IGGCSI00. Based on further testing and
observation, we have surmised that when a user with ALTER access permission
to a catalog invokes IGGCSI00, the catalog is accessed at the ALTER level.
Conversely, when a user with less than ALTER access permission invokes
IGGCSI00, the catalog is accessed at READ.

There doesn't appear to be any difference in behavior or added functionality
when IGGCSI00 accesses the catalog at ALTER as opposed to READ, so we are
wondering why it does so.

Regards, Bob


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