Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids
On 28 Feb 2007 14:13:31 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: A 2094-S18 could be many different models. Just like MIPS and MSUs, IBM is confusing the issue, rather than helping us. If we, as mainframe experts, can't keep things straight, how can we expect our management to? No wonder they want to move off! If they move off because of confusing hardware configurations, what platform is going to be any less confusing? The Wintel platform certainly has enough CPU variants to keep me confused and I doubt the Unix platforms are much better. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids
It is an old, proven marketing ploy. Humans are programmed to respond to any thing 'new'. In ancient times, it could be food for you, or something that wants to make food of you. Either way, it was a life or death situation. MS has made gazillions of dollars exploiting that trait. Consider also that we tend to bash IBM marketing for not 'getting it'. Well, perhaps the still don't get 'it', but they are getting even :-) My $0.02 (before taxes) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids On 28 Feb 2007 14:13:31 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: A 2094-S18 could be many different models. Just like MIPS and MSUs, IBM is confusing the issue, rather than helping us. If we, as mainframe experts, can't keep things straight, how can we expect our management to? No wonder they want to move off! If they move off because of confusing hardware configurations, what platform is going to be any less confusing? The Wintel platform certainly has enough CPU variants to keep me confused and I doubt the Unix platforms are much better. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids snip If they move off because of confusing hardware configurations, what platform is going to be any less confusing? The Wintel platform certainly has enough CPU variants to keep me confused and I doubt the Unix platforms are much better. Go Apple, of course. You have very few choices with them. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids
On 1 Mar 2007 07:33:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Merritt) wrote: It is an old, proven marketing ploy. Humans are programmed to respond to any thing 'new'. In ancient times, it could be food for you, or something that wants to make food of you. Either way, it was a life or death situation. A good example of this is when politicians pass laws to do something, whether or not that is a something that helps. I can't even begin to calculate how much it cost the country to move daylight savings time up.But I can calculate cost/benefit ratio without knowing this cost (if you don't mind getting a SOC9). We have a lot of such taxes that don't appear on the federal accounting. Some of these taxes have benefits - most safety rules, for instance.But others just keep us from doing more productive work. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids
--snip-- A good example of this is when politicians pass laws to do something, whether or not that is a something that helps. -unsnip And more often than not, the laws they pass are either unenforceable or unhelpful, or both. Don't get me started on this on. FWIW: It's still unlawful to leave a horse tied to a hitching post in Detroit for more that 4 hours; the fine is $2. And they still have whipping posts in Maryland! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids --snip-- A good example of this is when politicians pass laws to do something, whether or not that is a something that helps. -unsnip And more often than not, the laws they pass are either unenforceable or unhelpful, or both. Don't get me started on this on. FWIW: It's still unlawful to leave a horse tied to a hitching post in Detroit for more that 4 hours; the fine is $2. And they still have whipping posts in Maryland! And in my home town of Arlington, TX (home of the Rangers and future home of the Cowboys), it is illegal to drive sheep on Main Street. You can drive other animals on Main Street (such as cows) and sheep on other streets, just not sheep on Main Street. There are many such archaic laws still on the books. I remember a book which I think was entitled That's the Law? which a lot of them. For some laughs: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20010511/ai_n1070034 2 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Confusing hardware platform configurations was Re: cpuids
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman --snip-- A good example of this is when politicians pass laws to do something, whether or not that is a something that helps. -unsnip And more often than not, the laws they pass are either unenforceable or unhelpful, or both. Don't get me started on this on. FWIW: It's still unlawful to leave a horse tied to a hitching post in Detroit for more that 4 hours; the fine is $2. And they still have whipping posts in Maryland! http://tjshome.com/dumblaws.php -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
