Re: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13
Thanks all. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Mclaughlin Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13 Hello Matt, To move specific datasets to different PVOLs, my suggestion is to change them by their high level qualifier (HLQ). From the Modify System Layout Panel: select option C - View and change datasets by selected attributes select HLQ select the HLQ you want to work with issue the CH PVOL DLIB newvol command exclude all the datasets you do not want to move to the new volume pf3 out of the global change panel Good Luck Kathleen McLaughlin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13 I am working in the modify system layout panels. I have a 3390-9 being used for the dlib libraries and need to relocate some files to a second volume because the mod-9 is full. According to the good old book you have to go to the SUMMARY Of Logical Volumes, select the LV and then you can change the PVOL, the problem is it changes every (411 of them) dsn's in the LV. I have NOT found a way to change only specific dsn's. Please tell me there is a simple solution that I missed. Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13
I am working in the modify system layout panels. I have a 3390-9 being used for the dlib libraries and need to relocate some files to a second volume because the mod-9 is full. According to the good old book you have to go to the SUMMARY Of Logical Volumes, select the LV and then you can change the PVOL, the problem is it changes every (411 of them) dsn's in the LV. I have NOT found a way to change only specific dsn's. Please tell me there is a simple solution that I missed. Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13
Go to the dataset summary and reassign the LVOL of the dataset. Move that LVOL to the 2nd PVOL HTH, snip I am working in the modify system layout panels. I have a 3390-9 being used for the dlib libraries and need to relocate some files to a second volume because the mod-9 is full. According to the good old book you have to go to the SUMMARY Of Logical Volumes, select the LV and then you can change the PVOL, the problem is it changes every (411 of them) dsn's in the LV. I have NOT found a way to change only specific dsn's. Please tell me there is a simple solution that I missed. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13
Hello Matt, To move specific datasets to different PVOLs, my suggestion is to change them by their high level qualifier (HLQ). From the Modify System Layout Panel: select option C - View and change datasets by selected attributes select HLQ select the HLQ you want to work with issue the CH PVOL DLIB newvol command exclude all the datasets you do not want to move to the new volume pf3 out of the global change panel Good Luck Kathleen McLaughlin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13 I am working in the modify system layout panels. I have a 3390-9 being used for the dlib libraries and need to relocate some files to a second volume because the mod-9 is full. According to the good old book you have to go to the SUMMARY Of Logical Volumes, select the LV and then you can change the PVOL, the problem is it changes every (411 of them) dsn's in the LV. I have NOT found a way to change only specific dsn's. Please tell me there is a simple solution that I missed. Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13
For DLIBs, I change them all to SMS and let them land where they may in the pool. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Mclaughlin Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13 Hello Matt, To move specific datasets to different PVOLs, my suggestion is to change them by their high level qualifier (HLQ). From the Modify System Layout Panel: select option C - View and change datasets by selected attributes select HLQ select the HLQ you want to work with issue the CH PVOL DLIB newvol command exclude all the datasets you do not want to move to the new volume pf3 out of the global change panel Good Luck Kathleen McLaughlin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13 I am working in the modify system layout panels. I have a 3390-9 being used for the dlib libraries and need to relocate some files to a second volume because the mod-9 is full. According to the good old book you have to go to the SUMMARY Of Logical Volumes, select the LV and then you can change the PVOL, the problem is it changes every (411 of them) dsn's in the LV. I have NOT found a way to change only specific dsn's. Please tell me there is a simple solution that I missed. Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Relocating files in custompac - Z1.13
Dazzo, Matt wrote: I am working in the modify system layout panels. I have a 3390-9 being used for the dlib libraries and need to relocate some files to a second volume because the mod-9 is full. According to the good old book you have to go to the SUMMARY Of Logical Volumes, select the LV and then you can change the PVOL, the problem is it changes every (411 of them) dsn's in the LV. I have NOT found a way to change only specific dsn's. Please tell me there is a simple solution that I missed. snip I wish I'd been able to get rid of logical volumes but I couldn't quite get there at the time. My Tip Of The Day: Avoid anything to do with Logical Volumes. There are two much friendlier functions in the CustomPac Dialog panels in Modify System Layout you can use to move things around: - The Recommended System Layout function will distribute data sets over the necessary number of volumes automatically, leaving some free space to allow for future PTF installation. (You can add both more data set and more volume free space as well if you wish.) I just did this for an old z/OS-only order using 3390-9s and it took less than 5 seconds. - The View and Change option lets you display data set lists and use the Change command to drive a mass change any alterable data set attribute, including volume, space, name, etc. When you put in the Change (CH) command you get a data set list, from which you can choose to exlude the things you don't want to change. For this purpose, it might be simpler to exclude the ones you DO want to change and then rename the PVOLs later in the Physical Volume Summary. This seems backwards but if you are only moving a few out of hundreds it's a lot faster. Don't forget that you can go through the other panels to save the configuration at any time (which lets you model after it later, effectively saving your place) and then play with things. If you don't like how they turn out, start over from your saved configuration. HTH... -- John Eells (ServerPac design alumnus) z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint?
Hi, All, I'm tailoring a CICS ServerPac and need to change one of the zFS mountpoints, but cannot seem to find the magic incantation to do so anywhere in the Modify System Layout part of the dialog. Nothing in the help about it, either. I'm sure I've done it in past ServerPacs, but cannot remember the magic incantation. Any ideas how/where to do it? Or am I hallucinating, and will just have to change it manually after installation? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint?
Chase, John wrote: Hi, All, I'm tailoring a CICS ServerPac and need to change one of the zFS mountpoints, but cannot seem to find the magic incantation to do so anywhere in the Modify System Layout part of the dialog. Nothing in the help about it, either. I'm sure I've done it in past ServerPacs, but cannot remember the magic incantation. Any ideas how/where to do it? Or am I hallucinating, and will just have to change it manually after installation? snip Not exact instructions, but close: Go into View and Change, and select Mount Point. Select the desired file system's mount point. Select the data set. Page ahead to p. 2 of the data set attributes. Edit the mount point. See 8.2.4 Modifying a data set's attributes, Figure 76. Panel: Data set attributes 2 for a UNIX file system data set, in ServerPac: Using the Installation Dialog, at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cpp2udc0/CONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=20100602172621#8.2.4 -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint?
Look in the sys1.parmlib(bpxprmxx) where the xx is the parm member activated on your LPARA. Regards Otto Schumacher HP Enterprise Services Infrastructure Specialist Ahold Account CICS Capacity Technical Support P.O. Box 6462 2000 Wade Hampton Blvd. LC1-302 Greenville, South Carolina, 29606 Cell: 864 569--5338 Tel: 864 987-1417 Fax: 864 987-4500 E-mail: otto.schumac...@hp.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint? Chase, John wrote: Hi, All, I'm tailoring a CICS ServerPac and need to change one of the zFS mountpoints, but cannot seem to find the magic incantation to do so anywhere in the Modify System Layout part of the dialog. Nothing in the help about it, either. I'm sure I've done it in past ServerPacs, but cannot remember the magic incantation. Any ideas how/where to do it? Or am I hallucinating, and will just have to change it manually after installation? snip Not exact instructions, but close: Go into View and Change, and select Mount Point. Select the desired file system's mount point. Select the data set. Page ahead to p. 2 of the data set attributes. Edit the mount point. See 8.2.4 Modifying a data set's attributes, Figure 76. Panel: Data set attributes 2 for a UNIX file system data set, in ServerPac: Using the Installation Dialog, at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cpp2udc0/CONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=20100602172621#8.2.4 -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells Chase, John wrote: Hi, All, I'm tailoring a CICS ServerPac and need to change one of the zFS mountpoints, but cannot seem to find the magic incantation to do so anywhere in the Modify System Layout part of the dialog. Nothing in the help about it, either. I'm sure I've done it in past ServerPacs, but cannot remember the magic incantation. Any ideas how/where to do it? Or am I hallucinating, and will just have to change it manually after installation? snip Not exact instructions, but close: Go into View and Change, and select Mount Point. Select the desired file system's mount point. Select the data set. Page ahead to p. 2 of the data set attributes. Edit the mount point. Nope; can't --edit-- the mount point there. It's protected. See 8.2.4 Modifying a data set's attributes, Figure 76. Panel: Data set attributes 2 for a UNIX file system data set, in ServerPac: Using the Installation Dialog, at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cpp2udc0/CONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=201006021726 21#8.2.4 At the relevant point, it says: The entire mount point can be --displayed-- on this panel along with the data set attributes. (Emphasis added.) Id does not mention --editing-- the mount point. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint?
Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells Chase, John wrote: Hi, All, I'm tailoring a CICS ServerPac and need to change one of the zFS mountpoints, but cannot seem to find the magic incantation to do so anywhere in the Modify System Layout part of the dialog. Nothing in the help about it, either. I'm sure I've done it in past ServerPacs, but cannot remember the magic incantation. Any ideas how/where to do it? Or am I hallucinating, and will just have to change it manually after installation? snip Not exact instructions, but close: Go into View and Change, and select Mount Point. Select the desired file system's mount point. Select the data set. Page ahead to p. 2 of the data set attributes. Edit the mount point. Nope; can't --edit-- the mount point there. It's protected. See 8.2.4 Modifying a data set's attributes, Figure 76. Panel: Data set attributes 2 for a UNIX file system data set, in ServerPac: Using the Installation Dialog, at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cpp2udc0/CONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=201006021726 21#8.2.4 At the relevant point, it says: The entire mount point can be --displayed-- on this panel along with the data set attributes. (Emphasis added.) Id does not mention --editing-- the mount point. -jc- snip Hmmm...sorry about that. (It's been a long time now since I worked with this directly.) In the Variables option you will probably find an INSTALL DIRECTORY variable. Is that what you're looking for? -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells Chase, John wrote: snip Not exact instructions, but close: Go into View and Change, and select Mount Point. Select the desired file system's mount point. Select the data set. Page ahead to p. 2 of the data set attributes. Edit the mount point. Nope; can't --edit-- the mount point there. It's protected. See 8.2.4 Modifying a data set's attributes, Figure 76. Panel: Data set attributes 2 for a UNIX file system data set, in ServerPac: Using the Installation Dialog, at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cpp2udc0/CONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=201006021726 21#8.2.4 At the relevant point, it says: The entire mount point can be --displayed-- on this panel along with the data set attributes. (Emphasis added.) Id does not mention --editing-- the mount point. -jc- snip Hmmm...sorry about that. (It's been a long time now since I worked with this directly.) In the Variables option you will probably find an INSTALL DIRECTORY variable. Is that what you're looking for? No; that's where I specify the root for the mountpoint (we use '/Service'). Do you know if the PMR (ETR) process applies for the Custompac Dialog? If so, I'll open a PMR for it. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint?
Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells Chase, John wrote: snip Not exact instructions, but close: Go into View and Change, and select Mount Point. Select the desired file system's mount point. Select the data set. Page ahead to p. 2 of the data set attributes. Edit the mount point. Nope; can't --edit-- the mount point there. It's protected. See 8.2.4 Modifying a data set's attributes, Figure 76. Panel: Data set attributes 2 for a UNIX file system data set, in ServerPac: Using the Installation Dialog, at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cpp2udc0/CONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=201006021726 21#8.2.4 At the relevant point, it says: The entire mount point can be --displayed-- on this panel along with the data set attributes. (Emphasis added.) Id does not mention --editing-- the mount point. -jc- snip Hmmm...sorry about that. (It's been a long time now since I worked with this directly.) In the Variables option you will probably find an INSTALL DIRECTORY variable. Is that what you're looking for? No; that's where I specify the root for the mountpoint (we use '/Service'). Do you know if the PMR (ETR) process applies for the Custompac Dialog? If so, I'll open a PMR for it. Yes, it does. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Dialog -- Change a Mountpoint? NO, and here's why
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells Chase, John wrote: [ snip ] Do you know if the PMR (ETR) process applies for the Custompac Dialog? If so, I'll open a PMR for it. Yes, it does. For completeness, here's the response to my PMR: -IBM -5751CS900 - 11/07/22-11:04- Hi John, Mount point for file systems can not be changed through install dialogs. Serverpac ships a pax archive of the file system that contains the directory structure ie. /usr/lpp/cicsts/cicsts42/ During the RESTORE job we substitute the first / in that structure with the install directory you specify. RESTORE needs to match those inbetween directories usr lpp cicsts cicsts42 to put them into the restored file system. Once RESTORE is done you can unmount the file system and mount it at different path. You will also need to change your DDDEF entries to point to new mount point accordingly. SO, obviously I mis-remembered having done so two years ago, when I last installed a ServerPac that included zFSes. But now I know why. :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Question
You said (or defaulted to) leave 15% of each volume unused. Your target libraries require 1.75 volumes. They won't fit on one. If they were placed on two, each volume would have less than 12% unused. Your DLIBs require 1.08 volumes. They won't fit on one. Neither set will fit on a single volume but you could get the target libraries on only two instead of three by changing the percentage to 10%. -Original Message- From: Matt Dazzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Custompac Question Working on installing z1.9 and have a question pertaining to the Automatic Data Set Assignment panel in custompac. This is my first go around on this. I have two empty 3390-9's that I am using for the install, one for target libs and one for dlibs. I enter these in, as displayed in the first screen shot. I then enter the create command, upon completion custompac adds 2 more target volumes and 1 more dlib volume. Can someone explain what is happening, do I need 3 mod-9 for the target libs and 2 for dlibs? Thanks. Phys. Volume Sequence Device Used + Volume TypeNumberTypeReserved -- -- TZ19P1 TARGET T013390-9 85 % Z19DLB DLIB D013390-9 85 % Type in CR command, results are below Phys. Volume Sequence Device Used + Volume TypeNumberTypeReserved -- -- TZ19P1 TARGETT013390-9 85 % TARG04 TARGETT023390-9 85 % TARG05 TARGETT033390-9 5 % Z19DLB DLIB D013390-9 85 % DLIB03 DLIB D023390-9 23 % -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac Question
I use a separate pool for HFS/zFS and do SMS manage them. Moving HFS files off the SYSRES target lets the rest easily fit on 1 mod-9. Unfortunately from my point of view, it takes more than 2 (about 2.2) mod-3s to hold the z/OS 1.9 target HFS' :( Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State Univsersity -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Custompac Question You said (or defaulted to) leave 15% of each volume unused. Your target libraries require 1.75 volumes. They won't fit on one. If they were placed on two, each volume would have less than 12% unused. Your DLIBs require 1.08 volumes. They won't fit on one. Neither set will fit on a single volume but you could get the target libraries on only two instead of three by changing the percentage to 10%. -Original Message- From: Matt Dazzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Custompac Question Working on installing z1.9 and have a question pertaining to the Automatic Data Set Assignment panel in custompac. This is my first go around on this. I have two empty 3390-9's that I am using for the install, one for target libs and one for dlibs. I enter these in, as displayed in the first screen shot. I then enter the create command, upon completion custompac adds 2 more target volumes and 1 more dlib volume. Can someone explain what is happening, do I need 3 mod-9 for the target libs and 2 for dlibs? Thanks. Phys. Volume Sequence Device Used + Volume TypeNumberTypeReserved -- -- TZ19P1 TARGET T013390-9 85 % Z19DLB DLIB D013390-9 85 % Type in CR command, results are below Phys. Volume Sequence Device Used + Volume TypeNumberTypeReserved -- -- TZ19P1 TARGETT013390-9 85 % TARG04 TARGETT023390-9 85 % TARG05 TARGETT033390-9 5 % Z19DLB DLIB D013390-9 85 % DLIB03 DLIB D023390-9 23 % -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Custompac Question
Working on installing z1.9 and have a question pertaining to the Automatic Data Set Assignment panel in custompac. This is my first go around on this. I have two empty 3390-9's that I am using for the install, one for target libs and one for dlibs. I enter these in, as displayed in the first screen shot. I then enter the create command, upon completion custompac adds 2 more target volumes and 1 more dlib volume. Can someone explain what is happening, do I need 3 mod-9 for the target libs and 2 for dlibs? Thanks. Phys. Volume Sequence Device Used + Volume TypeNumberTypeReserved -- -- TZ19P1 TARGET T013390-9 85 % Z19DLB DLIB D013390-9 85 % Type in CR command, results are below Phys. Volume Sequence Device Used + Volume TypeNumberTypeReserved -- -- TZ19P1 TARGETT013390-9 85 % TARG04 TARGETT023390-9 85 % TARG05 TARGETT033390-9 5 % Z19DLB DLIB D013390-9 85 % DLIB03 DLIB D023390-9 23 % -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Custompac Question
When working in custompac is there a way to tell if a previous zos system install was a software upgrade or a complete system replacement? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
Jack, yes this is serverpac. This is an order that is already installed and completed. I'd like to go back in and look at what jobs were run. It appears that serverpac thinks that some of the volumes are over allocated and will not allow you to select 'Installation' option. When I go into 'M' for 'Modify System Layout' then run SUMP cmd several of the volumes have error conditions 'OVRS because serverpac thinks it needs more space for the install, but the install is already complete. Anyone know how to fool serverpac when this condition comes up? thanks Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/12/2008 4:24 PM If it's anything like Service Pac, you have to complete, at least do, the preceding item before it'll let you start the next one. If that's what you're talking about. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/12/2008 02:54 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Custompac When using custompac to view an existing installed order I find that some of the options like 'Installation' have an asterisk next to them and are not able to be selected for viewing. Any body know why this might be? Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/ . By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
Hi, Jack. I ran into the same thing. Just blank out everything except the volser on the Physical Allocations page, and ServerPac will go take a look at the volume. You'll be fine. Cheers,,,Steve Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems Services Division Computer Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax:(703) 450-3197 Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/14/2008 11:38 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Custompac Jack, yes this is serverpac. This is an order that is already installed and completed. I'd like to go back in and look at what jobs were run. It appears that serverpac thinks that some of the volumes are over allocated and will not allow you to select 'Installation' option. When I go into 'M' for 'Modify System Layout' then run SUMP cmd several of the volumes have error conditions 'OVRS because serverpac thinks it needs more space for the install, but the install is already complete. Anyone know how to fool serverpac when this condition comes up? thanks Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/12/2008 4:24 PM If it's anything like Service Pac, you have to complete, at least do, the preceding item before it'll let you start the next one. If that's what you're talking about. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/12/2008 02:54 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Custompac When using custompac to view an existing installed order I find that some of the options like 'Installation' have an asterisk next to them and are not able to be selected for viewing. Any body know why this might be? Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/ . By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
Whoops, should have been sent to Matt. Sorry. Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems Services Division Computer Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax:(703) 450-3197 Steven Conway/HQ/FHLMC 03/14/2008 12:15 PM To IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Custompac Hi, Jack. I ran into the same thing. Just blank out everything except the volser on the Physical Allocations page, and ServerPac will go take a look at the volume. You'll be fine. Cheers,,,Steve Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems Services Division Computer Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax:(703) 450-3197 Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/14/2008 11:38 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Custompac Jack, yes this is serverpac. This is an order that is already installed and completed. I'd like to go back in and look at what jobs were run. It appears that serverpac thinks that some of the volumes are over allocated and will not allow you to select 'Installation' option. When I go into 'M' for 'Modify System Layout' then run SUMP cmd several of the volumes have error conditions 'OVRS because serverpac thinks it needs more space for the install, but the install is already complete. Anyone know how to fool serverpac when this condition comes up? thanks Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/12/2008 4:24 PM If it's anything like Service Pac, you have to complete, at least do, the preceding item before it'll let you start the next one. If that's what you're talking about. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/12/2008 02:54 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Custompac When using custompac to view an existing installed order I find that some of the options like 'Installation' have an asterisk next to them and are not able to be selected for viewing. Any body know why this might be? Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/ . By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
If you just want to look at the jobs that were run, you can browse the SCPPOENU dataset directly. -Original Message- From: Matt Dazzo Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Custompac Jack, yes this is serverpac. This is an order that is already installed and completed. I'd like to go back in and look at what jobs were run. It appears that serverpac thinks that some of the volumes are over allocated and will not allow you to select 'Installation' option. When I go into 'M' for 'Modify System Layout' then run SUMP cmd several of the volumes have error conditions 'OVRS because serverpac thinks it needs more space for the install, but the install is already complete. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:39:28 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you just want to look at the jobs that were run, you can browse the SCPPOENU dataset directly. Only if you take overt action to get them in there (using the O / output command). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
Thanks Steve, I don't understand why but it worked. Steven Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/14/2008 12:15 PM Hi, Jack. I ran into the same thing. Just blank out everything except the volser on the Physical Allocations page, and ServerPac will go take a look at the volume. You'll be fine. Cheers,,,Steve Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems Services Division Computer Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax:(703) 450-3197 Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/14/2008 11:38 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Custompac Jack, yes this is serverpac. This is an order that is already installed and completed. I'd like to go back in and look at what jobs were run. It appears that serverpac thinks that some of the volumes are over allocated and will not allow you to select 'Installation' option. When I go into 'M' for 'Modify System Layout' then run SUMP cmd several of the volumes have error conditions 'OVRS because serverpac thinks it needs more space for the install, but the install is already complete. Anyone know how to fool serverpac when this condition comes up? thanks Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/12/2008 4:24 PM If it's anything like Service Pac, you have to complete, at least do, the preceding item before it'll let you start the next one. If that's what you're talking about. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/12/2008 02:54 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Custompac When using custompac to view an existing installed order I find that some of the options like 'Installation' have an asterisk next to them and are not able to be selected for viewing. Any body know why this might be? Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/ . By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
True, but if that wasn't done you won't see much besides the job number when you do get the dialogue to let you look. You won't know if the job succeeded or even if it ran. You could also review the JCL but you won't know if what you are looking at is what was actually submitted. -Original Message- From: Mark Zelden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Custompac On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:39:28 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A If you just want to look at the jobs that were run, you can browse the SCPPOENU dataset directly. Only if you take overt action to get them in there (using the O / output command). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:08:29 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but if that wasn't done you won't see much besides the job number when you do get the dialogue to let you look. You won't know if the job succeeded or even if it ran. You could also review the JCL but you won't know if what you are looking at is what was actually submitted. Guilty as charged! I see a few jobs that I only looked at in SDSF and not from the dialogs. IVPs only though. I agree the intent (and best practice) is to use the ServerPac dialog output command. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Custompac
When using custompac to view an existing installed order I find that some of the options like 'Installation' have an asterisk next to them and are not able to be selected for viewing. Any body know why this might be? Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Custompac
If it's anything like Service Pac, you have to complete, at least do, the preceding item before it'll let you start the next one. If that's what you're talking about. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/12/2008 02:54 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Custompac When using custompac to view an existing installed order I find that some of the options like 'Installation' have an asterisk next to them and are not able to be selected for viewing. Any body know why this might be? Thanks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/ . By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CST/RSU recommendation vs RefreshPac-SFSs (CustomPac) (was: PUT vs. RSU)
Jan, My replies below. Regards, Tom Conley On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:57:16 -0500, Jan Vanbrabant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main question is: what *IS* now IBM's final recommendation? CST/RSU is free, probably of a higher quality, but incomplete (only for z/OS major subsystems). Disagree. You send IBM your CSI bitmap on ShopZ, and you should get back all the RSU maintenance for all installed products. CustomPacs are personalized and contain service for ALL CSI products. I wouldn't trust a CustomPac as far as I could throw it. Can you work with both approaches, CST/RSU and Custompac? Why do you want to pay for something that you can get for free? For as far as I know (I'm not the SMP/E expert overhere), it doesn't look to me as an or-or relationship. From a purely technical point of view, it should be possible to use both techniques in parallel. In theory, it should be possible to work for example with 2 CSIs, a RSU-CSI a Custompac-CSI. And I suppose we can reconciliate with cross-zone SMP/E. But are there considerations about doing so? Pro's con's? Do's and don'ts? My best practice is to use SUF until it goes away. IBM recommends ShopZ, but it's still too much manual intervention for me. I've had bad experiences with CustomPacs, so I will not use them again. If they work for you, great, but is the cost of them really worth the minimal time savings? In my case, I spent more time correcting the CustomPac errors than I would have if I did it all myself. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CST/RSU recommendation vs RefreshPac-SFSs (CustomPac) (was: PUT vs. RSU)
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:29:02 -0600, Scott Fagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Official IBM recommendation (from http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/servicetst/cstrsu.pdf): General Maintenance Recommendations using revised RSU: IBM now has the same recommendations for key OS/390 and z/OS products. Upgrade RSU preventive maintenance every 3 months (or maximum of 6 months). Start with the latest RSU available. Monitor HIPER and PE fixes by reviewing weekly and installing as needed. I also found Greg Daynes' excellent CST-RSU Share S2827a presentation (August 13 2003) http://ew.share.org/callpapers/attach/Washington_DC/S2827a.pdf There was also a draft Improvements in z/OS Service (REDP0324) about CST/RSU, which never got published as far as I know. (is no longer on the redbook site either). What's very interesting in the CST/RSU thing is the 3 month consolidated test cycle with the 'revised' RSU as outcome. But it's only for z/OS and it's major subsystems (IMS, DB2, MQ, WAS, CICS, and some minor things (for me at least)). But no TWS (ex-OPC) for example!! At this moment we work with the Canadian Custompacs: Refreshpac SFSs. CustomPac Serviceshttps://www.can.ibm.com/custompac/ https://www.can.ibm.com/custompac/deliverable/refreshpac.htm https://www.can.ibm.com/custompac/deliverable/sfs.htm CustomPacs are CSI-based. We send the CSI to IBM with all *our* FMID's we get refrespacs and/or SFSs regularly. CST/RSU on the contrary is not CSI-based. If I recall well, prerequisite is even some support contract. The main question is: what *IS* now IBM's final recommendation? CST/RSU is free, probably of a higher quality, but incomplete (only for z/OS major subsystems). CustomPacs are personalized and contain service for ALL CSI products. Can you work with both approaches, CST/RSU and Custompac? For as far as I know (I'm not the SMP/E expert overhere), it doesn't look to me as an or-or relationship. From a purely technical point of view, it should be possible to use both techniques in parallel. In theory, it should be possible to work for example with 2 CSIs, a RSU-CSI a Custompac-CSI. And I suppose we can reconciliate with cross-zone SMP/E. But are there considerations about doing so? Pro's con's? Do's and don'ts? Experiences / considerations to share? Jan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
