Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-04 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Donnelly, John P john.p.donne...@ti.com wrote in message
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 We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying
DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
 From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation
failed.
 Any other way we might accomplish the same event?
 
 John Donnelly

Do the dd cards specify aliasses for datasets? The alias is enqueued on
by the initiator before the steps starts execution, but at the time the
dataset is really needed the real name will be enqueued and if this
fails, you will (also) get DATASET RESERVATION UNSUCCESFUL.

Kees.

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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-04 Thread McKown, John
We just use CA-11. But I have used IDCAMS.

//DELEM EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD *
 DEL some.dsn1
 DEL some.dsn2
...
 DEL some.dsn3
 SET MAXCC=0
/*
//*

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 We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards 
 specifying  DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
 From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset 
 reservation failed.
 Any other way we might accomplish the same event?
 
 John Donnelly
 Texas Instruments SVA
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 Santa Clara, CA 95051
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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 995242624f0873419e71e8ce2105c5e5e0745cb...@exmail01.scwf.nsc.com,
on 11/03/2011
   at 12:37 PM, Donnelly, John P john.p.donne...@ti.com said:

Any other way we might accomplish the same event?

Yes, but if another job is using the data set you will cause problems
by deleting it. I advise that you use AMS to delete the data sets and
deal with the ones in use after the job using them has finished and
you have verified that it really is safe to delete them.
 
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DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Donnelly, John P
We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying  
DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation failed.
Any other way we might accomplish the same event?

John Donnelly
Texas Instruments SVA
2900 Semiconductor Drive
Santa Clara, CA 95051
408-721-5640
408-470-8364 Cell
john.p.donne...@ti.com




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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Lloyd Fuller
Add SPACE and VOLUME parameters, and change OLD to MOD.  That way if it does 
exist, it will be deleted, and if it does not, it will be created and deleted 
in 
the same step.

Use it all of the time.  You can also use UNIT=SYSDA (or some such) instead of 
VOLUME.  


Lloyd



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Subject: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying  
DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation failed.
Any other way we might accomplish the same event?

John Donnelly
Texas Instruments SVA
2900 Semiconductor Drive
Santa Clara, CA 95051
408-721-5640
408-470-8364 Cell
john.p.donne...@ti.com




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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Lizette Koehler

We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying  
DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation failed.
Any other way we might accomplish the same event?


what version of z/OS?

It depends on if the job is currently setup by a person or a process.  How is 
the IEFBR14 job created?

Lizette

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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Does the dataset exist but the enqueue fails or do you fail due to dataset not 
found?  If the latter, use DISP=(MOD,DELETE,DELETE).  If the former, there is a 
JES2 parameter that will change the behavior from fail to wait but you really 
need a process to insure no one else is using the datasets in question.

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 Subject: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

 We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying
 DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
 From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation
 failed.
 Any other way we might accomplish the same event?

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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Starr, Alan
John,

There are many ways of accomplishing this, assuming that you wish to delete 
those datasets that are NOT in use.

One possibility: run IKJEFT01 in batch and, for each of the DDs in the IEFBR14 
step, issue a DELETE command. Datasets that are ENQueued upon (EXCL or SHR) 
will not be deleted.

Cheers,
Alan 

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Subject: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying  
DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation failed.
Any other way we might accomplish the same event?

John Donnelly
Texas Instruments SVA
2900 Semiconductor Drive
Santa Clara, CA 95051
408-721-5640
408-470-8364 Cell
john.p.donne...@ti.com




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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Staller, Allan
There are several  different conditions that can generate similar
issues, each of which, generally requires an operator (human or
electronic) to reply to a WTOR. 

Without the message id from the WTOR, any response from this list would
be pure speculation.

Please check you system log and post the message ID of the WTOR.

HTH,

snip
We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying
DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation
failed.
Any other way we might accomplish the same event?
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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
This suggestion will not change the ' DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL' 
situation. The answer to Lizette's question is a factor in what might be the 
correct or better solution.

In my experience, this message occurs when deleting a GDS (specific generation 
dataset) and something else is adding, deleting or otherwise preventing the 
required update to the GDG base entry.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


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 Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:46 PM
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 Subject: Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL
 
 Add SPACE and VOLUME parameters, and change OLD to MOD.  That way if it
 does
 exist, it will be deleted, and if it does not, it will be created and deleted 
 in
 the same step.
 
 Use it all of the time.  You can also use UNIT=SYSDA (or some such) instead of
 VOLUME.
 
 
 Lloyd
 
 
 
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 Subject: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL
 
 We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying
 DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
 From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation failed.
 Any other way we might accomplish the same event?
 
 John Donnelly
 Texas Instruments SVA
 2900 Semiconductor Drive
 Santa Clara, CA 95051
 408-721-5640
 408-470-8364 Cell
 john.p.donne...@ti.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Another way to do it is to set up an IDCAMS job to delete all of the datasets.  
I don't think you will get dataset reservation failed errors.  If for whatever 
reason 1 or 2 datasets don't get deleted, you will get a non zero return code 
instead of a JCL error.

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 Donnelly wrote: 
 We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying  
 DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
 From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation failed.
 Any other way we might accomplish the same event?
 
 John Donnelly
 Texas Instruments SVA
 2900 Semiconductor Drive
 Santa Clara, CA 95051
 408-721-5640
 408-470-8364 Cell
 john.p.donne...@ti.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:37:51 -0700, Donnelly, John P john.p.donne...@ti.com 
wrote:

We have a job that executes PGM=IEFBR14 with 40 DD cards specifying  
DISP=(OLD,DELETE,DELETE).
From time to time we will get a JCL error because dataset reservation failed.
Any other way we might accomplish the same event?


Details, details, details...   Without them I can't say for sure.   Are you 
getting
message IEF211I?  I think you may be describing a situation rectified by 
specifying 
the following in your ALLOCxx parmlib member:

SDSN_WAIT  WAITALLOC(YES) 

See the init and tuning guide for details.  Also, these days you can make the 
change
dynamically with the SETALLOC command.  

I've needed to use this at shops since MVS/XA.  However, you used to have
have to zap the allocation default table (IEFAB445) to get this option by
turning on the DEFSDSWT flag.  

Regards,

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Re: DATA SET RESERVATION UNSUCCESSFUL

2011-11-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Another way to do it is to set up an IDCAMS job to delete all of the datasets. 
 I don't think you will get dataset reservation failed errors.  If for 
whatever reason 1 or 2 datasets don't get deleted, you will get a non zero 
return code instead of a JCL error. 

And, if you want, you can make the RC 0.
Just code:

IF MAXCC  9 THEN SET MAXCC = 0

I always want delete steps to complete successfully.
Deleting a nonexistent dsn is not an error.

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