Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Cris Hernandez #9]

twimc,

and I may be a newbie here,
but I'll vouch for Steve!

Hi Steve,
who knew?
so this is what my sysprogs are doing all day long that keeps them too busy to 
return my emails...

hernandez



--- On Fri, 1/21/11, Steve Conway  wrote:

> From: Steve Conway 
> Subject: Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 12:33 PM
> Dave,
> 
> Is there a "very polite" way to question a person's
> integrity and motives? 
>  Put yourself on their end of the conversation, and ask if
> you wouldn't 
> have been insulted.
> 
> Both Ed and Tom are long-term, well-respected members of
> this forum and 
> community.  Both have contributed help (and code)
> freely.  Their words 
> carry some weight.
> 
> To pas up an opportunity to gain endorsement of your
> product from folks 
> like them was, IMO, short-sighted.
> 
> 
> Steven F. Conway
> 


  

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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Dave Salt]

Steve,

If I put myself in their position I wouldn't have been the slightest bit 
insulted. And even if I was, I wouldn't have aired my grievance on a public 
forum. I didn't initially question their integrity, but I do now.
 
Dave Salt







> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:33:45 -0500
> From: steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov
> Subject: Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Is there a "very polite" way to question a person's integrity and motives? 
>  Put yourself on their end of the conversation, and ask if you wouldn't 
> have been insulted.
> 
> Both Ed and Tom are long-term, well-respected members of this forum and 
> community.  Both have contributed help (and code) freely.  Their words 
> carry some weight.
> 
> To pas up an opportunity to gain endorsement of your product from folks 
> like them was, IMO, short-sighted.
> 
> 
> Steven F. Conway, CISSP
> LA Systems
> z/OS Systems Support
> Phone: 703.295.1926
> steven_con...@ao.uscourts.gov
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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Steve Conway]

Dave,

Is there a "very polite" way to question a person's integrity and motives? 
 Put yourself on their end of the conversation, and ask if you wouldn't 
have been insulted.

Both Ed and Tom are long-term, well-respected members of this forum and 
community.  Both have contributed help (and code) freely.  Their words 
carry some weight.

To pas up an opportunity to gain endorsement of your product from folks 
like them was, IMO, short-sighted.


Steven F. Conway, CISSP
LA Systems
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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[McKown, John]

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B.
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:46 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)
> 
> Dave,
> 
> This "public" exchange is doing nothing to endear potential 
> customers to want to trial or purchase SimpList.
> 
> I am making my exchange totally public. Either trust the 
> other ISV developers or not. Most already have the skill set 
> in-house to do
> ISPF dialog development of similar capability should they 
> choose to do so. I doubt the profit margins on ISPF 
> productivity tools is worth the illegality of ripping off 
> someone else's software and endangering their own business 
> reputation, etc. 
> 
> Bob

Agreed. both sides have given and received black eyes. It is time for the 
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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Dave Salt]

Bob,

I'm not the one who decided to launch these personal attacks in public, but I 
will certainly defend.

Like you said, other ISV developers "already have the skill set in-house to do 
ISPF dialog development of similar capability should they choose to do so". 
Which means it's a very risky business to allow an ISV to study another ISV's 
software for an entire year. It's not unheard of for one ISV to steal another 
ISV's code and ideas, and exercising due caution is only common sense. 

I have *very politely* asked one ISV to elaborate on his plans to interface his 
software with SimpList, and was met with a rude response and then subsequently 
attacked on this list. I have *very politely* turned down another ISV who said 
"there are no plans to purchase your software at the end of the year", and 
again was subsequently attacked on this list.

I'm sorry these people are so sensitive they feel the need to vent their 
frustration on a public forum, but I won't tolerate this kind of crap from 
anyone. I especially won't tolerate it from ISV's who should know better.
 
Dave Salt



> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:45:54 -0500
> From: robert.richa...@opm.gov
> Subject: Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> 
> Dave,
> 
> This "public" exchange is doing nothing to endear potential customers to want 
> to trial or purchase SimpList.
> 
> I am making my exchange totally public. Either trust the other ISV developers 
> or not. Most already have the skill set in-house to do
> ISPF dialog development of similar capability should they choose to do so. I 
> doubt the profit margins on ISPF productivity tools is worth the illegality 
> of ripping off someone else's software and endangering their own business 
> reputation, etc. 
> 
> Bob
> 

  
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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Richards, Robert B.]

Dave,

This "public" exchange is doing nothing to endear potential customers to want 
to trial or purchase SimpList.

I am making my exchange totally public. Either trust the other ISV developers 
or not. Most already have the skill set in-house to do
ISPF dialog development of similar capability should they choose to do so. I 
doubt the profit margins on ISPF productivity tools is worth the illegality of 
ripping off someone else's software and endangering their own business 
reputation, etc. 

Bob


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Dave Salt
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:23 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

> From: Tom Marchant at Compuware
> Sorry  I meant my last post to be a private email.

Here's part of the 'last post' that was supposedly meant to be sent 'privately':
It makes me wonder if he is serious and has frankly left me with
a much lower opinion of him.  Here is his reply to me:



and my response to him



I wonder if he considers that to be "rude". 

No, I didn't consider your private email to me to be rude. But now that you've 
posted your grievance on IBM-MAIN and followed up by sending another email to 
IBM-MAIN saying "Sorry  I meant my last post to be a private email" when 
clearly it was never intended to be private is very rude. Congratulations, my 
opinion of you is now a lot lower as well.
 
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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Dave Salt]

> From: Tom Marchant at Compuware
> Sorry  I meant my last post to be a private email.

Here's part of the 'last post' that was supposedly meant to be sent 'privately':
It makes me wonder if he is serious and has frankly left me with
a much lower opinion of him.  Here is his reply to me:



and my response to him



I wonder if he considers that to be "rude". 

No, I didn't consider your private email to me to be rude. But now that you've 
posted your grievance on IBM-MAIN and followed up by sending another email to 
IBM-MAIN saying "Sorry  I meant my last post to be a private email" when 
clearly it was never intended to be private is very rude. Congratulations, my 
opinion of you is now a lot lower as well.
 
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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Tom Marchant]

Sorry  I meant my last post to be a private email.

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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Tom Marchant]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:26:12 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:

>On 1/17/2011 1:56 PM, Dave Salt wrote:
>> The response to the recent promotion of using SimpList for free during all of
>> 2011 has been exceptional. The promotion finishes at the end of this
month, so
>> if you haven't signed up yet and don't want to miss out I suggest acting fast
>> (see my original email below). Note: you must contact me off-list for the
>> promotion code if you want to take part in the special promotion; i.e. do NOT
>> download the free trial from the MacKinney web site as this would set the
>> trial to the regular 30 days.
>
>I inquired about taking advantage of this offer for 2011 and was told that
>SimpList is not available for use by ISVs. :-(

Same here.  It makes me wonder if he is serious and has frankly left me with
a much lower opinion of him.  Here is his reply to me:


Thanks for your interest in trying SimpList.

I'm sure you understand that any vendor has to be cautious about letting
another vendor study their software. This is especially true when the period
is for an entire year.

I have to commend you on your very honest statement that you "don't see much
hope that we will buy it at the end of the year". To be equally as honest, I
can only say this makes the risk/reward ratio too unfavourable.

I hope you understand my position and that it doesn't cause any hard
feelings between us. I assure you absolutely none is intended. 


and my response to him


The reason that I mentioned that I didn't see much hope that we would buy it
at the end of the year is that I an just a software developer.  I have no
influence over software purchases.  This is not much different from most of
the subscribers to IBM-Main.

Frankly, if you think that we would steal your code or your ideas, I don't
see what the difference is whether we take you up on your free trial or buy it.


I wonder if he considers that to be "rude".

Of course, I could easily have not mentioned that I work for Compuware when
I made the request.

Tom Marchant

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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Edward Jaffe]

On 1/20/2011 12:27 PM, Dave Salt wrote:

Ed,

When I replied to your request for a one year trial by saying "I'm not sure" it's difficult to 
understand how that could be misconstrued to mean "No you can't use it". Especially when the very 
next sentence I wrote said "Can you elaborate on why you want to do this".


I wanted to try SimpList because I thought it sounded useful. I even offered to 
look at it from the perspective of potential product interface possibilities 
like we do with so many other IBM and ISV products. I was somewhat surprised by 
your response. You made a public offer and when I contacted you about it, you 
wanted to know our business case. Sorry if you thought my response was rude.


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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Dave Salt]

Ed,

When I replied to your request for a one year trial by saying "I'm not sure" 
it's difficult to understand how that could be misconstrued to mean "No you 
can't use it". Especially when the very next sentence I wrote said "Can you 
elaborate on why you want to do this". 

To allow another ISV to use a product free of charge for an entire year 
requires a high degree of trust. As your response to my email was quite rude I 
think it's best we leave things as they are.

Regards,
 
Dave Salt

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> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:52:02 -0800
> From: edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
> Subject: Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> 
> On 1/20/2011 11:21 AM, Dave Salt wrote:
> >> From: edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
> >> I inquired about taking advantage of this offer for 2011 and was told that
> >> SimpList is not available for use by ISVs. :-(
> > You were never told that.
> 
> I guess it was a misunderstanding then. In response to my inquiry you wrote, 
> "I'm not sure I can afford to let another ISV pore over the inner-workings of 
> SimpList for a year." I took that to mean you did not want to license 
> SimpList 
> to ISVs.
> 
> Are you now saying ISVs ARE eligible to take advantage of the offer? If so, 
> I'll 
> contact you off-list again to start the process rolling.
> 
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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Edward Jaffe]

On 1/20/2011 11:21 AM, Dave Salt wrote:

From: edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
I inquired about taking advantage of this offer for 2011 and was told that
SimpList is not available for use by ISVs. :-(

You were never told that.


I guess it was a misunderstanding then. In response to my inquiry you wrote, 
"I'm not sure I can afford to let another ISV pore over the inner-workings of 
SimpList for a year." I took that to mean you did not want to license SimpList 
to ISVs.


Are you now saying ISVs ARE eligible to take advantage of the offer? If so, I'll 
contact you off-list again to start the process rolling.


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Re: SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Dave Salt]

> From: edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
> I inquired about taking advantage of this offer for 2011 and was told that 
> SimpList is not available for use by ISVs. :-(

You were never told that. Caution is always prudent when letting another ISV 
take a look at your software, especially for an entire year. You stated in your 
email that you were looking for opportunities to integrate your software with 
SimpList, and I stated that before allowing you to install it I'd like you to 
elaborate. You replied, somewhat rudely, that "it's clear you don't have 
experience with
ISV customers" and "I'm sure we'll
manage just fine without SimpList". I replied by saying "You sound annoyed. 
I'm sorry you took it that way as it certainly wasn't my intent" and "my 
apologies if I did something wrong".

By making this false accusation on IBM-MAIN you are clearly even more deeply 
annoyed than I was originally aware of. Again, if I did something to upset you 
I'm sorry. 

Regards,
 
Dave Salt

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SimpList (Was: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC)

[Edward Jaffe]

On 1/17/2011 1:56 PM, Dave Salt wrote:
The response to the recent promotion of using SimpList for free during all of 
2011 has been exceptional. The promotion finishes at the end of this month, so 
if you haven't signed up yet and don't want to miss out I suggest acting fast 
(see my original email below). Note: you must contact me off-list for the 
promotion code if you want to take part in the special promotion; i.e. do NOT 
download the free trial from the MacKinney web site as this would set the 
trial to the regular 30 days.


I inquired about taking advantage of this offer for 2011 and was told that 
SimpList is not available for use by ISVs. :-(


Of course, there is always IBM's ISPF Productivity Tool (which used to be SPIFFY 
from ISOGON). I know many of our customers are using that. I often see the 
module names in SVC dumps.


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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on
01/18/2011
   at 05:15 PM, Don Leahy  said:

>The ISPF file transfer panel really should have scrollable fields. 
>ISPF has them in several other places so why not there?  I worked
>around it by shortening my workstation file name.

I've run into cases where I have to use particular paths and both the
z/OS and workstation fields are too short. The next time I have to use
it I'll take Dave's suggestion and write my own dialog.
 
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 01/18/2011
   at 10:34 AM, Dave Salt  said:

>However, I've used the WSA on Win XP, Win Vista, and Win 7. In all
>cases it worked flawlessly. 

I haven't had problems with the WSA itself, but the WSA GUI has
issues.
 
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Don Leahy]

The ISPF file transfer panel really should have scrollable fields.  ISPF has
them in several other places so why not there?  I worked around it by
shortening my workstation file name.

I miss SimpList.  In my last shop I got a lot of use out of its file
transfer features.  I especially miss the way it shows you a directory list
of your workstation files so that you can select them for Edit or Browse or
Transfer.


On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:36, Dave Salt  wrote:

> > Dave Salt  said:
> > I highly recommend using the ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE). It
> > makes file transfers really easy
> >
>
> > From: shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net 
> > The entry fields are way too short. Or do you mean driving
> > ISPF from a script rather than the supplied panels?
>
> The WSA can be driven from the ISPF file transfer panel, but if the fields
> on that panel aren't long enough people can write their own transfer
> scripts. Users who prefer not to write their own scripts or want more
> functionality can use SimpList.
>
> IMO, driving the transfer process from ISPF is easier than using FTP and
> having to enter a userid and password and transfer options (etc).
>
> Dave Salt
>
> SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it!
>
> http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Dave Salt]

> Dave Salt  said:
> I highly recommend using the ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE). It
> makes file transfers really easy 
> 

> From: shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net
> The entry fields are way too short. Or do you mean driving
> ISPF from a script rather than the supplied panels?

The WSA can be driven from the ISPF file transfer panel, but if the fields on 
that panel aren't long enough people can write their own transfer scripts. 
Users who prefer not to write their own scripts or want more functionality can 
use SimpList. 

IMO, driving the transfer process from ISPF is easier than using FTP and having 
to enter a userid and password and transfer options (etc).
 
Dave Salt

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Ted MacNEIL]

>Since I was rejected, here is the bat file instream.

For readability/ease of coding, you may want to consider:

@ECHO off

as the first line, instead of putting an '@' at the start of the .bat file.

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:55:55 -0500, Pinnacle wrote:

>- Original Message -
>From: "willie bunter" 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:35 AM
>
>> I cannot perform the XMIT on this partition because of "SECURITY". Thanks
>> for the suggestion.
>
>That's crazy!  Security on XMIT?  Really?  Wow.  That's right up there with
>the most brain dead security policies I've ever heard.
>
>You should be able to make a case to them that XMIT is not a dangerous
>command, especially when using the OUTDATASET operand.  This is now the
>standard mode of interchange for mainframe data across the Internet.
>Preventing you from executing XMIT severely hampers your ability to become
>"Fully-Wired", as Sam Knutson would say.  Good Luck.
>
Some admins consider "Fully-Wired" a threat.

Do they know about AMATERSE?  (Shhh!)  But no extractor for the
desktop.

Do they restrict AMASPZAP?  IEBCOPY?  It wouldn't be hard to
unwind IEBCOPY on the desktop: the code must be embedded in
XMIT Manager, but not exposed.

We won't name a dangerous product discussed here last Spring.

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Mark Jacobs]

Native windows binaries won't run on Linux. The IBM WSA might run under 
the WINE environment though. I've never tried it however.


Mark Jacobs

On 01/18/11 10:47, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:34:45 -0500, Dave Salt wrote:

   

The ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE) documentation says that in order to use 
the WSA:

 

A TCP/IP connection exists between your workstation and the host, and your
workstation is running under one of these supported operating systems:

#  Microsoft Windows 2000/NT
# AIX
# HP-UX
# Solaris (SUN)
 
 

Is that both Solaris/Sparc and Solaris/x86?

   

However, I've used the WSA on Win XP, Win Vista, and Win 7.

 

Celebrate diversity.

In all cases it worked flawlessly. Have you tried running it on a Linux 
workstation? You never know, it might work.
   
 

It's as likely to work on OS X.  Can anyone comment on binary
compatibility between Win * and Linux?

Perhaps if it's written in Java.  I tried the z390.org assembler on
Linux, Solaris, and OS X (the latter 2 not supported; all x86).
Command line works on all 3; GUI fails on OS X because of unrecognized
version string.  FIN.  I'm impressed.

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Pinnacle]

- Original Message - 
From: "willie bunter" 

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC



Tom,

I cannot perform the XMIT on this partition because of "SECURITY". Thanks 
for the suggestion.




Willie,

That's crazy!  Security on XMIT?  Really?  Wow.  That's right up there with 
the most brain dead security policies I've ever heard.


You should be able to make a case to them that XMIT is not a dangerous 
command, especially when using the OUTDATASET operand.  This is now the 
standard mode of interchange for mainframe data across the Internet. 
Preventing you from executing XMIT severely hampers your ability to become 
"Fully-Wired", as Sam Knutson would say.  Good Luck.


Regards,
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:34:45 -0500, Dave Salt wrote:

>The ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE) documentation says that in order to use 
>the WSA:
>
>> >A TCP/IP connection exists between your workstation and the host, and your
>> >workstation is running under one of these supported operating systems:
>> >
>> >#  Microsoft Windows 2000/NT
>> ># AIX
>> ># HP-UX
>> ># Solaris (SUN)
>
Is that both Solaris/Sparc and Solaris/x86?

>However, I've used the WSA on Win XP, Win Vista, and Win 7. 
>
Celebrate diversity.

In all cases it worked flawlessly. Have you tried running it on a Linux 
workstation? You never know, it might work. 
> 
It's as likely to work on OS X.  Can anyone comment on binary
compatibility between Win * and Linux?

Perhaps if it's written in Java.  I tried the z390.org assembler on
Linux, Solaris, and OS X (the latter 2 not supported; all x86).
Command line works on all 3; GUI fails on OS X because of unrecognized
version string.  FIN.  I'm impressed.

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Dave Salt]

The ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE) documentation says that in order to use 
the WSA:

> >A TCP/IP connection exists between your workstation and the host, and your
> >workstation is running under one of these supported operating systems:
> >
> >#  Microsoft Windows 2000/NT
> ># AIX
> ># HP-UX
> ># Solaris (SUN)

However, I've used the WSA on Win XP, Win Vista, and Win 7. In all cases it 
worked flawlessly. Have you tried running it on a Linux workstation? You never 
know, it might work. 
 
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> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:46:28 -0600
> From: paulgboul...@aim.com
> Subject: Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:48:10 -0600, Sebastian Welton wrote:
> >
> >I used to use the WSA for some tasks but no longer can:
> >
> >A TCP/IP connection exists between your workstation and the host, and your
> >workstation is running under one of these supported operating systems:
> >
> >#  Microsoft Windows 2000/NT
> ># AIX
> ># HP-UX
> ># Solaris (SUN)
> >
> >My workstation is Linux...
> >
> Ironic, isn't it, given IBM's declared commitment to Linux?
> 
> And why doesn't IBM provide an X11 client and be independent of
> the server platform?
> 
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Donald Johnson]

Since I was rejected, here is the bat file instream. You may want to insert
lines for readability:
*don*

@If [%1]==[/?] Goto helpp
@CLS
@SET func=
@SET user=
@SET pw=
@SET zos=
@SET mem=

@SET /P func=Enter mput or mget:
@IF [%func%]==[] Goto helpp
@SET /P user=Enter TSO userid:
@IF [%user%]==[] Goto helpp
@SET /P pw=Enter TSO password:
@IF [%pw%]==[] Goto helpp
@SET /P zos=Enter z/OS filename (in quotes):
@IF [%zos%]==[] Goto helpp
@SET /P mem=Enter PDS member name mask(for mget):
@SET /P loc=Enter local filename (full path in doublequotes):
@IF [%loc%]==[] Goto helpp
@IF EXIST %loc% GOTO go_on
@MD %loc%
:go_on
@echo USER %user% %pw%>C:\ftpdir.dat
@echo ASC >>C:\ftpdir.dat
@echo prompt >>c:\ftpdir.dat
@echo.>>C:\ftpdir.dat
@echo cd %zos%>>c:\ftpdir.dat
@echo lcd %loc%>>c:\ftpdir.dat
@echo.>>C:\ftpdir.dat
@GOTO %func%
:mput
@echo.>>C:\ftpdir.dat
@echo mput *.*>>c:\ftpdir.dat
@GOTO Done
:mget
@echo.>>C:\ftpdir.dat
@echo mget %mem%* (REPLACE>>c:\ftpdir.dat
@GOTO Done
:done
@echo.>>C:\ftpdir.dat
@echo bye>>c:\ftpdir.dat
ftp -n -s:C:\ftpdir.dat ca11.ca.com
@pause
CD %loc%
REN * *.txt
@GOTO XXIT
:Helpp
@CLS
@ECHO This batch file will upload/download z/OS PDS files to PC directories.
@ECHO.
@ECHO You will need to enter your TSO userid and password (NOT HIDDEN),
@ECHO and then you will enter the z/OS filename (in quotes) and a member
@ECHO name mask (or leave blank for all) to FTP to the PC.
@ECHO After entering the PC directory (in double quotes), the FTP process
will
@ECHO transfer the members to the PC directory (overwriting the members if
@ECHO they exist), and will then rename all single-node files to *.txt.
@ECHO.
@ECHO Usage %0
@ECHO.
@pause
:XXIT
REM @CLS

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Donald Johnson  wrote:

> Here is a bat file I use to FTP and rename...You need to remove the last
> node (.file) from this attachment.
> *don*
>
>   On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Rob Schramm wrote:
>
>> Barry,
>>
>> I couldn't find it.  I didn't find it in any RFC either.  Nmap must be an
>> extension that isn't always supported.  I don't see it as part of the
>> windows client.  The only references I see are for unix.
>>
>> Rob Schramm
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:51:45 -0500, Rob Schramm wrote:
>
>I couldn't find it.  I didn't find it in any RFC either.  Nmap must be an
>extension that isn't always supported.  I don't see it as part of the
>windows client.  The only references I see are for unix.
>
Generally, RFCs specify nothing about clients.  Clients are idiosyncratic.
"Extension" is meaningless when discussing clients.  Consider, for
example, the difference between line mode and GUI FTP clients: they're
radically different, but can either be considered an extension?

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Rob Schramm]

Barry,

I couldn't find it.  I didn't find it in any RFC either.  Nmap must be an
extension that isn't always supported.  I don't see it as part of the
windows client.  The only references I see are for unix.

Rob Schramm 

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[willie bunter]

Tom,
 
I cannot perform the XMIT on this partition because of "SECURITY".  Thanks for 
the suggestion.

--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Pinnacle  wrote:


From: Pinnacle 
Subject: Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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- Original Message - From: "willie bunter" 
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC


> Hallo All,
> 
> It has been a long while since I downloaded a PDS from the MAINFRAME to my PC.
> I am having a bit of difficulty having them downloaded with a .txt extension. 
> I did the following :
> ftp-1
> open (ip address)
> supplied userid and password
> LCD U:\FTP
> CD 'NGL02D.UTIL.JCL'
> mget * *.txt
> 
> However all the files that were downloaded were not in .txt extension. Is 
> there somethingelse I need to do. I found an old post and I followed it 
> however it doesn't seem to work.
> I would appreciate any of your suggestions.
> 

Willie,

Not a direct answer to your question, but have you considered handling your 
PDS's as .XMI files?  Do a TSO TRANSMIT a.a da(your file) outda(your .xmi 
file), then download the .xmi file binary to your PC.  Then go out on the Web 
and get XMIT MANAGER to work with the .XMI file.  I find it easier than trying 
to deal with sometimes weird EBCDIC to ASCII translations in .TXT files.

Regards,
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 01/17/2011
   at 01:46 PM, Dave Salt  said:

>I highly recommend using the ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE). It
>makes file transfers really easy 

FSVO easy; the entry fields are way too short. Or do you mean driving
ISPF from a script rather than the supplied panels?
 
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:00:11 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:

>Could you tell me where this is documented.  I could not find it any of the 
>likely Comm Server manuals.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
>Don Poitras
>Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:59 AM
>
>Use nmap. e.g.
>
>prompt
>case
>nmap $1 $1.txt
>mget *
>
>Do the opposite for uploading. i.e.
>
>nmap $1.$2 $1
>
It's client-peculiar.

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Schwarz, Barry A]

Could you tell me where this is documented.  I could not find it any of the 
likely Comm Server manuals.

-Original Message-
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Don Poitras
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

Use nmap. e.g.

prompt
case
nmap $1 $1.txt
mget *

Do the opposite for uploading. i.e.

nmap $1.$2 $1

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:48:10 -0600, Sebastian Welton wrote:
>
>I used to use the WSA for some tasks but no longer can:
>
>A TCP/IP connection exists between your workstation and the host, and your
>workstation is running under one of these supported operating systems:
>
>#  Microsoft Windows 2000/NT
># AIX
># HP-UX
># Solaris (SUN)
>
>My workstation is Linux...
>
Ironic, isn't it, given IBM's declared commitment to Linux?

And why doesn't IBM provide an X11 client and be independent of
the server platform?

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Sebastian Welton]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:46:35 -0500, Dave Salt  wrote:

>I highly recommend using the ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE). It makes
file transfers really easy and doesn't require you to enter a userid and
password. Check here for instructions:
>

I used to use the WSA for some tasks but no longer can:

A TCP/IP connection exists between your workstation and the host, and your
workstation is running under one of these supported operating systems: 

#  Microsoft Windows 2000/NT
# AIX
# HP-UX
# Solaris (SUN) 

My workstation is Linux...

Sebastian.

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Dave Salt]

> From: rob.schr...@gmail.com
> I have a client that uses Simplist ... it is pretty cool... especially
> driving everything from ISPF.  

I don't know who your client is but I'm glad they like the file transfer 
feature. The ability to easily transfer files by selecting them from any 
regular member list or PC/workstation directory is a favourite with many 
SimpList customers.

The response to the recent promotion of using SimpList for free during all of 
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promotion code if you want to take part in the special promotion; i.e. do NOT 
download the free trial from the MacKinney web site as this would set the trial 
to the regular 30 days.

Regards, 
 
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Cris Hernandez #9]

don't know what you're trying to do with it, but for transport purposes, I run 
a utility on the mainframe to make a flatfile then xmit as text.  no corruption 
when sent back to the mainframe if receiving file is pre-allocated with correct 
LRECL & RECFM.  IEBUPDTE (or is it IEBCOPY?) or SAS Proc Source is what I use 
to unload the PDS.  


  

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Rob Schramm]

I have a client that uses Simplist ... it is pretty cool... especially
driving everything from ISPF.  

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Don Poitras]

Use nmap. e.g.

prompt
case
nmap $1 $1.txt
mget *

Do the opposite for uploading. i.e.

nmap $1.$2 $1



Craig Pace wrote:
> 
> I agree with the XMIT only because of file space that is saved; however,
> you can download it a empty directory on your PC with the FTP MGET option
> and then run a batch program (anything.BAT) that simply does a RENAME
> x:\path\* x:\path\*.txt and it will rename all files to have the .txt
> extention.  I have used this before when wanting to be able to directly
> read files are in the PC world and automatically open it up in a Text
> viewer; for example, program source code.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craig Pace
> z/OS Systems Programmer
> Fruit of the Loom, Inc.®
> 
> Office: (270) 781-6400 ext. 4397
> Cell:   (270) 991-7452
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> 
> Rob Schramm 
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 01/17/2011 01:28 PM
> Please respond to
> IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> To
> IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> cc
> 
> Subject
> Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC
> 
> Willie,
> 
> Unfortunately, mget doesn't work like that... you can specify multiple
> filenames and use the file* .. but cannot change the name on the mget.  I
> have to agree with the other poster about using XMI for the whole PDS.
> 
> But in this case, once you are done with the mget, you should be able to
> run
> a cmd line from the directory in question and run a rename * *.txt
> 
> BTW, mput has the same set of restrictions.
> 
> Rob Schramm
>

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Dave Salt]

WSA.EXE doesn't require a second step to rename the downloaded files. Simply 
enter the target directory in ISPF option 3.7.2 (e.g. enter C:\MyDir\*.txt) and 
enter the PDS name (e.g. 'MY.PDS') and then select some or all of the members 
from the displayed member list. For example, to select all members enter S * on 
the command line. It doesn't get much easier than that.
 
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:34:45 -0600
> From: cp...@fruit.com
> Subject: Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> 
> I agree with the XMIT only because of file space that is saved; however, 
> you can download it a empty directory on your PC with the FTP MGET option 
> and then run a batch program (anything.BAT) that simply does a RENAME 
> x:\path\* x:\path\*.txt and it will rename all files to have the .txt 
> extention.  I have used this before when wanting to be able to directly 
> read files are in the PC world and automatically open it up in a Text 
> viewer; for example, program source code.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craig Pace
> z/OS Systems Programmer
> Fruit of the Loom, Inc.®
> 
> Office: (270) 781-6400 ext. 4397
> Cell:   (270) 991-7452
> Fax:(270) 438-4430
> E-mail:  cp...@fruit.com
> 
> One Fruit of the Loom Drive
> PO Box 90015
> Bowling Green, KY 42102-9015
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rob Schramm  
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 01/17/2011 01:28 PM
> Please respond to
> IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> 
> To
> IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> cc
> 
> Subject
> Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Willie,
> 
> Unfortunately, mget doesn't work like that... you can specify multiple
> filenames and use the file* .. but cannot change the name on the mget.  I
> have to agree with the other poster about using XMI for the whole PDS. 
> 
> But in this case, once you are done with the mget, you should be able to 
> run
> a cmd line from the directory in question and run a rename * *.txt
> 
> BTW, mput has the same set of restrictions.
> 
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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Craig Pace]

I agree with the XMIT only because of file space that is saved; however, 
you can download it a empty directory on your PC with the FTP MGET option 
and then run a batch program (anything.BAT) that simply does a RENAME 
x:\path\* x:\path\*.txt and it will rename all files to have the .txt 
extention.  I have used this before when wanting to be able to directly 
read files are in the PC world and automatically open it up in a Text 
viewer; for example, program source code.



Thanks,

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Willie,

Unfortunately, mget doesn't work like that... you can specify multiple
filenames and use the file* .. but cannot change the name on the mget.  I
have to agree with the other poster about using XMI for the whole PDS. 

But in this case, once you are done with the mget, you should be able to 
run
a cmd line from the directory in question and run a rename * *.txt

BTW, mput has the same set of restrictions.

Rob Schramm 

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Rob Schramm]

Willie,

Unfortunately, mget doesn't work like that... you can specify multiple
filenames and use the file* .. but cannot change the name on the mget.  I
have to agree with the other poster about using XMI for the whole PDS.  

But in this case, once you are done with the mget, you should be able to run
a cmd line from the directory in question and run a rename * *.txt

BTW, mput has the same set of restrictions.

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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

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- Original Message - 
From: "willie bunter" 

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC



Hallo All,

It has been a long while since I downloaded a PDS from the MAINFRAME to my 
PC.
I am having a bit of difficulty having them downloaded with a .txt 
extension. I did the following :

ftp-1
open (ip address)
supplied userid and password
LCD U:\FTP
CD 'NGL02D.UTIL.JCL'
mget * *.txt

However all the files that were downloaded were not in .txt extension. Is 
there somethingelse I need to do. I found an old post and I followed it 
however it doesn't seem to work.

I would appreciate any of your suggestions.



Willie,

Not a direct answer to your question, but have you considered handling your 
PDS's as .XMI files?  Do a TSO TRANSMIT a.a da(your file) outda(your .xmi 
file), then download the .xmi file binary to your PC.  Then go out on the 
Web and get XMIT MANAGER to work with the .XMI file.  I find it easier than 
trying to deal with sometimes weird EBCDIC to ASCII translations in .TXT 
files.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[Dave Salt]

I highly recommend using the ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE). It makes file 
transfers really easy and doesn't require you to enter a userid and password. 
Check here for instructions:

http://www.tsotimes.com/articles/archive/spring04/wsafiletransfer.html

Hope that helps,
 
Dave Salt

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> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:38:19 -0800
> From: williebun...@yahoo.com
> Subject: DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> 
> Hallo All,
>  
> It has been a long while since I downloaded a PDS from the MAINFRAME to my PC.
> I am having a bit of difficulty having them downloaded with  a .txt 
> extension.  I did the following :
> ftp-1
> open (ip address)
> supplied userid and password
> LCD U:\FTP
> CD 'NGL02D.UTIL.JCL'
> mget * *.txt
>  
> However all the files that were downloaded were not in .txt extension.  Is 
> there somethingelse I need to do.  I found an old post and I followed it 
> however it doesn't seem to work.  
> I would appreciate any of your suggestions.
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 10/18/05, Farley, Peter x23353  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Farley, Peter x23353 
> Subject: Re: FTP members from PC to Mainframe PDS
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Received: Tuesday, October 18, 2005, 2:56 PM
> 
> 
> When you used "mget *" to retrieve the members, what extension were they
> saved as on the PC?  *.txt?  *.mac? IOW, did you do "mget * *.txt"?  If not,
> did you rename them all to *.txt after they were downloaded so you could
> edit them easily?
> 
> If they were saved with any extension at all, you probably cannot use "mput
> *" to put them back.  If (for example) they were saved as *.txt, do the
> following before starting ftp on the PC:
> 
> C:\TEMP>ren *.txt *.
> 
> Then you may be able to use "mput *" as you want.  I just tested this with a
> small PDS, and had no problem using "mget *" followed by "mput *".  z/OS
> 1.6, in case it matters.  You do, however, lose all ISPF statistics in the
> directory entries when you do the mput back to the PDS.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Peter 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:29 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: FTP members from PC to Mainframe PDS
> 
> I'm drawing a blank here and checking archives I've hit a wall.
> 
> I downloaded a PDS to my PC awhile back using the MGET command from my PC
> while connected to the mainframe remote host.
> I now want to upload them back to the mainframe from the PC, use the PC's
> FTP command, into a mainframe PDS.
> I tried
> 
> open (host address)
> 
> 
> lcd temp  (individual members saved here) prompt
> cd ispf.test.rexx   (mainframe PDS name)
> mput *
> 
> Howerver, this creates a separate file for each member on the mainframe.
> I'd like them all IN  ISPF.TEST.REXX.
> 
> Thanks
> Bill
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DOWNLOADING PDS FROM MAINFRAME TO PC

[willie bunter]

Hallo All,
 
It has been a long while since I downloaded a PDS from the MAINFRAME to my PC.
I am having a bit of difficulty having them downloaded with  a .txt extension.  
I did the following :
ftp-1
open (ip address)
supplied userid and password
LCD U:\FTP
CD 'NGL02D.UTIL.JCL'
mget * *.txt
 
However all the files that were downloaded were not in .txt extension.  Is 
there somethingelse I need to do.  I found an old post and I followed it 
however it doesn't seem to work.  
I would appreciate any of your suggestions.


--- On Tue, 10/18/05, Farley, Peter x23353  wrote:


From: Farley, Peter x23353 
Subject: Re: FTP members from PC to Mainframe PDS
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Received: Tuesday, October 18, 2005, 2:56 PM


When you used "mget *" to retrieve the members, what extension were they
saved as on the PC?  *.txt?  *.mac? IOW, did you do "mget * *.txt"?  If not,
did you rename them all to *.txt after they were downloaded so you could
edit them easily?

If they were saved with any extension at all, you probably cannot use "mput
*" to put them back.  If (for example) they were saved as *.txt, do the
following before starting ftp on the PC:

C:\TEMP>ren *.txt *.

Then you may be able to use "mput *" as you want.  I just tested this with a
small PDS, and had no problem using "mget *" followed by "mput *".  z/OS
1.6, in case it matters.  You do, however, lose all ISPF statistics in the
directory entries when you do the mput back to the PDS.

HTH

Peter 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:wgeo...@dhs.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: FTP members from PC to Mainframe PDS

I'm drawing a blank here and checking archives I've hit a wall.

I downloaded a PDS to my PC awhile back using the MGET command from my PC
while connected to the mainframe remote host.
I now want to upload them back to the mainframe from the PC, use the PC's
FTP command, into a mainframe PDS.
I tried

open (host address)


lcd temp  (individual members saved here) prompt
cd ispf.test.rexx   (mainframe PDS name)
mput *

Howerver, this creates a separate file for each member on the mainframe.
I'd like them all IN  ISPF.TEST.REXX.

Thanks
Bill

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