Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

2011-04-15 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
The DSS manual clearly states you cannot change the number of qualifiers in a 
DSN with wild cards; you must use a fully qualified (complete) DSN.  If you do 
a LISTC ALL for the cluster you will get the DSNs of the AIX and any paths.  
Just add additional pairs of parameters to the RENAMEU operand.

I've never done it but it might be easier to use DUMP and RESTORE. DUMP has the 
NEWNAMEU operand which *appears* to be more inclusive.

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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:46 PM
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Subject: Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

Hi Barry,

 Mea Culpa!  It would probably help if I copy/paste the correct parm cards! 
 Duh.

 My 1st example should have read RENAMEU(VTOVT).  That simply changes the 
HLQ of the files copied and works fine..

 SPHERE is specified in both examples, so the AIX/PATH is copied correctly 
- at least in my 1st example.  Its component names are correct and in the 
correct catalog - which is different than the source dsn.

  I'm stumbling on 
RENAMEU(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G).  I Have the need 
to add a qualifier to the target dsn, and this form works fine *except* for 
this dsn with the AIX  PATH.  I'm using this form of RENAMEU for multiple dsns 
in the same run - this is the only one with an AIX  PATH, and is the only one 
that fails.  I've checked the source file and its component and all looks fine 
- same catalog for all components, which seems to be what it's complaining 
about.

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Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

2011-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:35:55 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:

The DSS manual clearly states you cannot change the number of qualifiers in a 
DSN with wild cards; you must use a fully qualified (complete) DSN.

Is there a credible rationale for this irritating restriction?

BTW, an Innovation representative posted here quite a while back
that FDR suffers no such rule, so it must be mathematically possible.

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Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

2011-04-15 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Barry,

 From my reading, I would have thought SPHERE would eliminate the need to 
specify the AIX/PATH entries.

 The source cluster, and all of its' components are in the same usercat.  
The target cluster is going to a different usercat.

 I thought I was getting pretty good a DFSMSdss syntax and usage, but

 Oh well, I can always use IDCAMS.

Thanks!
BobL

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Schwarz, Barry A
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

The DSS manual clearly states you cannot change the number of qualifiers in a 
DSN with wild cards; you must use a fully qualified (complete) DSN.  If you do 
a LISTC ALL for the cluster you will get the DSNs of the AIX and any paths.  
Just add additional pairs of parameters to the RENAMEU operand.

I've never done it but it might be easier to use DUMP and RESTORE. DUMP has the 
NEWNAMEU operand which *appears* to be more inclusive.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lester, Bob
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

Hi Barry,

 Mea Culpa!  It would probably help if I copy/paste the correct parm cards! 
 Duh.

 My 1st example should have read RENAMEU(VTOVT).  That simply changes the 
HLQ of the files copied and works fine..

 SPHERE is specified in both examples, so the AIX/PATH is copied correctly 
- at least in my 1st example.  Its component names are correct and in the 
correct catalog - which is different than the source dsn.

  I'm stumbling on 
RENAMEU(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G).  I Have the need 
to add a qualifier to the target dsn, and this form works fine *except* for 
this dsn with the AIX  PATH.  I'm using this form of RENAMEU for multiple dsns 
in the same run - this is the only one with an AIX  PATH, and is the only one 
that fails.  I've checked the source file and its component and all looks fine 
- same catalog for all components, which seems to be what it's complaining 
about.

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Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

2011-04-15 Thread Don Imbriale
To give you something else to complain about? :)

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:

 
 Is there a credible rationale for this irritating restriction?


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DSSCOPY and AIX?

2011-04-14 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Folks,

 This may be an easy one, but I can't find the answer.

 Copying a dataset with an AIX and path like this works fine:

COPY DATASET( -
 INCLUDE(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,  -(This is the base cluster 
name and has an AIX and PATH)
 ...LOTS MORE DSNS) -
FR(REQUIRED) -
ALLDATA(*) -
 ALLEXCP -
 SPHERE -
 STORCLAS(STANDARD) -
 TOL(ENQF) -
 RENAMEU(VOFD,VTOVT)   (These HLQs are in DIFFERENT catalogs)

 However, it fails when I try this:

COPY DATASET( -
 INCLUDE(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,  -(This is the base cluster 
name)
 ...LOTS MORE DSNS) -
FR(REQUIRED) -
ALLDATA(*) -
 ALLEXCP -
 SPHERE -
 STORCLAS(STANDARD) -
 TOL(ENQF) -
 RENAMEU(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G)

  I get the following error:

ADR411W (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G IN CATALOG 
USERCAT.PRODVSAM ON VOLUME PRD83B WAS NOT SERIALIZED ON REQUEST
ADR711I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G HAS BEEN ALLOCATED 
WITH NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G USING STORCLAS
 STANDARD, DATACLAS DCSTAND, AND MGMTCLAS NOACTION
ADR764E (001)-DDFLT(01), DATA SETS IN SPHERE OF BASE CLUSTER 
VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G WITH NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G WERE
 DIRECTED TO MORE THAN ONE CATALOG
ADR763E (001)-DDFLT(01), DATA SETS IN SPHERE OF BASE CLUSTER 
VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G WITH NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G WERE
 NOT ALL RENAMED.

   I'm missing something, since in both examples, the files ARE in 
different catalogs.   But the 1st example works.

   Any ideas?   z/OS 1.11, SMS.  Target DSNs do not exist before the runs.

Thanks!
BobL


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Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

2011-04-14 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Are you sure you are showing us the actual input?  The RENAMEU operand of your 
first example does not say change the HLQ.  Since it has no wildcards, it says 
rename the dataset whose name is exactly VOFD to exactly VTOVT. (It also seems 
to be missing a set of parentheses but they may be optional in this case.)  
Since you probably don't have any single qualifier datasets, no renaming should 
occur.  And since you are not deleting the source dataset, the copy should fail 
because the target dataset cannot be catalogued.

Your second example also has no wildcards to only the cluster gets renamed.  
The end result is the cluster HLQ is changed to VTOVT while the components' HLQ 
remain VOFD (which is what the last error message is telling you).  Apparently 
a cluster and its components must be in the same catalog.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lester, Bob
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: DSSCOPY and AIX?

Hi Folks,

 This may be an easy one, but I can't find the answer.

 Copying a dataset with an AIX and path like this works fine:

COPY DATASET( -
 INCLUDE(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,  -(This is the base cluster 
name and has an AIX and PATH)
 ...LOTS MORE DSNS) -
FR(REQUIRED) -
ALLDATA(*) -
 ALLEXCP -
 SPHERE -
 STORCLAS(STANDARD) -
 TOL(ENQF) -
 RENAMEU(VOFD,VTOVT)   (These HLQs are in DIFFERENT catalogs)

 However, it fails when I try this:

COPY DATASET( -
 INCLUDE(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,  -(This is the base cluster 
name)
 ...LOTS MORE DSNS) -
FR(REQUIRED) -
ALLDATA(*) -
 ALLEXCP -
 SPHERE -
 STORCLAS(STANDARD) -
 TOL(ENQF) -
 RENAMEU(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G)

  I get the following error:

ADR411W (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G IN CATALOG 
USERCAT.PRODVSAM ON VOLUME PRD83B WAS NOT SERIALIZED ON REQUEST
ADR711I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G HAS BEEN ALLOCATED 
WITH NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G USING STORCLAS
 STANDARD, DATACLAS DCSTAND, AND MGMTCLAS NOACTION
ADR764E (001)-DDFLT(01), DATA SETS IN SPHERE OF BASE CLUSTER 
VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G WITH NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G WERE
 DIRECTED TO MORE THAN ONE CATALOG
ADR763E (001)-DDFLT(01), DATA SETS IN SPHERE OF BASE CLUSTER 
VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G WITH NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G WERE
 NOT ALL RENAMED.

   I'm missing something, since in both examples, the files ARE in 
different catalogs.   But the 1st example works.

   Any ideas?   z/OS 1.11, SMS.  Target DSNs do not exist before the runs.

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Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

2011-04-14 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Barry,

 Mea Culpa!  It would probably help if I copy/paste the correct parm cards! 
 Duh.

 My 1st example should have read RENAMEU(VTOVT).  That simply changes the 
HLQ of the files copied and works fine.. 

 SPHERE is specified in both examples, so the AIX/PATH is copied correctly 
- at least in my 1st example.  Its component names are correct and in the 
correct catalog - which is different than the source dsn.

  I'm stumbling on 
RENAMEU(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G).  I Have the need 
to add a qualifier to the target dsn, and this form works fine *except* for 
this dsn with the AIX  PATH.  I'm using this form of RENAMEU for multiple dsns 
in the same run - this is the only one with an AIX  PATH, and is the only one 
that fails.  I've checked the source file and its component and all looks fine 
- same catalog for all components, which seems to be what it's complaining 
about.

Thanks!
BobL

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Schwarz, Barry A
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

Are you sure you are showing us the actual input?  The RENAMEU operand of your 
first example does not say change the HLQ.  Since it has no wildcards, it says 
rename the dataset whose name is exactly VOFD to exactly VTOVT. (It also seems 
to be missing a set of parentheses but they may be optional in this case.)  
Since you probably don't have any single qualifier datasets, no renaming should 
occur.  And since you are not deleting the source dataset, the copy should fail 
because the target dataset cannot be catalogued.

Your second example also has no wildcards to only the cluster gets renamed.  
The end result is the cluster HLQ is changed to VTOVT while the components' HLQ 
remain VOFD (which is what the last error message is telling you).  Apparently 
a cluster and its components must be in the same catalog.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lester, Bob
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: DSSCOPY and AIX?

Hi Folks,

 This may be an easy one, but I can't find the answer.

 Copying a dataset with an AIX and path like this works fine:

COPY DATASET( -
 INCLUDE(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,  -(This is the base cluster 
name and has an AIX and PATH)
 ...LOTS MORE DSNS) -
FR(REQUIRED) -
ALLDATA(*) -
 ALLEXCP -
 SPHERE -
 STORCLAS(STANDARD) -
 TOL(ENQF) -
 RENAMEU(VOFD,VTOVT)   (These HLQs are in DIFFERENT catalogs)

 However, it fails when I try this:

COPY DATASET( -
 INCLUDE(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,  -(This is the base cluster 
name)
 ...LOTS MORE DSNS) -
FR(REQUIRED) -
ALLDATA(*) -
 ALLEXCP -
 SPHERE -
 STORCLAS(STANDARD) -
 TOL(ENQF) -
 RENAMEU(VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G,VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G)

  I get the following error:

ADR411W (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G IN CATALOG 
USERCAT.PRODVSAM ON VOLUME PRD83B WAS NOT SERIALIZED ON REQUEST ADR711I 
(001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G HAS BEEN ALLOCATED WITH 
NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G USING STORCLAS
 STANDARD, DATACLAS DCSTAND, AND MGMTCLAS NOACTION 
ADR764E (001)-DDFLT(01), DATA SETS IN SPHERE OF BASE CLUSTER 
VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G WITH NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G WERE
 DIRECTED TO MORE THAN ONE CATALOG ADR763E 
(001)-DDFLT(01), DATA SETS IN SPHERE OF BASE CLUSTER VOFD.CSLGROUP.MFDM0C0G 
WITH NEWNAME VTOVT.CSLGROUP.NEW.MFDM0C0G WERE
 NOT ALL RENAMED.

   I'm missing something, since in both examples, the files ARE in 
different catalogs.   But the 1st example works.

   Any ideas?   z/OS 1.11, SMS.  Target DSNs do not exist before the runs.

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