Re: Disaster in the making
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/17/2008 at 10:45 AM, Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Low Bid. Many government entities are bound by law to solicit proposals from everyone and take the lowest bid. The Devil is in the details. They are not required to accept a bid that does not comply with the RFP and they are allowed to include evaluation criteria in the RFP. What typically happens is a failure in the requirements analysis. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
--snip- Low Bid. Many government entities are bound by law to solicit proposals from everyone and take the lowest bid. The Devil is in the details. They are not required to accept a bid that does not comply with the RFP and they are allowed to include evaluation criteria in the RFP. What typically happens is a failure in the requirements analysis. ---unsnip--- Inadequate specifications also play a part in this process. All too often the guy writing the RFP has a poor understanding of the technical aspects, hurdles, etc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
This gives me pause. What were the original site selectors thinking ?? Gary Green wrote: We plan and plan and plan to make sure everything is correct with the systems and such that we are responsible for. Then along comes someone that make a decision that makes it all moot. You gotta read this article. If it were not so serious, it would be funny. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9109498source=NLT_DISnlid=14 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
Low Bid. Many government entities are bound by law to solicit proposals from everyone and take the lowest bid. I once worked in the construction industry, and 'low bid' was used as a derogatory term and as a general answer to the question: 'What went wrong?'. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Disaster in the making This gives me pause. What were the original site selectors thinking ?? Gary Green wrote: We plan and plan and plan to make sure everything is correct with the systems and such that we are responsible for. Then along comes someone that make a decision that makes it all moot. You gotta read this article. If it were not so serious, it would be funny. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic articleId=9109498source=NLT_DISnlid=14 NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
As a guess, the land was probably donated by the city of Nashville, or sold for very little. I would hate to think what was under that data center. If the data center is 21 years old, the landfill is a lot older. When did some of the recent EPA regs on landfills start impacting municiple owned landfills? Larry Gray Large Systems Engineering Lowe's Companies 336-658-7944 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Disaster in the making Low Bid. Many government entities are bound by law to solicit proposals from everyone and take the lowest bid. I once worked in the construction industry, and 'low bid' was used as a derogatory term and as a general answer to the question: 'What went wrong?'. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Disaster in the making This gives me pause. What were the original site selectors thinking ?? Gary Green wrote: We plan and plan and plan to make sure everything is correct with the systems and such that we are responsible for. Then along comes someone that make a decision that makes it all moot. You gotta read this article. If it were not so serious, it would be funny. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic articleId=9109498source=NLT_DISnlid=14 NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
On 17 Jul 2008 08:05:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman) wrote: This gives me pause. What were the original site selectors thinking ?? Sometimes it isn't what one is thinking - but what one isn't thinking that matters most. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman This gives me pause. What were the original site selectors thinking ?? Since it's a government entity, it could have been any (combination of) these, and not necessarily in this order: 1. Cheapest available; 2. Pork-barrel; 3. political favor; 4. political disfavor. Gary Green wrote: We plan and plan and plan to make sure everything is correct with the systems and such that we are responsible for. Then along comes someone that make a decision that makes it all moot. You gotta read this article. If it were not so serious, it would be funny. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewAr ticleBasic articleId=9109498source=NLT_DISnlid=14 -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
On 17 Jul 2008 10:21:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote: Since it's a government entity, it could have been any (combination of) these, and not necessarily in this order: 1. Cheapest available; 2. Pork-barrel; 3. political favor; 4. political disfavor. Or It's someone else's job to check for the site for construction suitability. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Disaster in the making
We plan and plan and plan to make sure everything is correct with the systems and such that we are responsible for. Then along comes someone that make a decision that makes it all moot. You gotta read this article. If it were not so serious, it would be funny. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9109498source=NLT_DISnlid=14 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
