Re: EKM and Public Keys

2009-05-21 Thread Mark Jacobs
Jousma, David wrote:
 If your partner has one of the keys that goes with that label, then I say 
 yes.  Send them a test tape

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 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
 david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
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I'm a bit concerned that you are getting an encryption error when you
just use the single key. That tells me that EKM isn't able to use just
this key to encrypt the tape.

Mark Jacobs

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf 
 Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:21 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: EKM and Public Keys

 According to metadata it says 

 keyalias1=rsaceru
 keyalias2=EMKLOWES

 Does this mean it is okay? that my partner will be able to decrypt the tape?

 Lizette


   
 IF you look in the metadata.xml, or use the utility to format it, it
 tells which key was used to encrypt the tape.

 

   
 Lizette Koehler wrote:
 
 Mark,

 I have tried it with both the KEYLABL1 and KEYLABL2 parms.  They both
   
 fail the same way - I am not able to encrpyt the key that way.
 
 //SYSUT1  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TSO.LK41591.PDF.CNTL(IDCAMS)  
 //SYSUT2  DD DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=CART,DATACLAS=ENCRYPT,   
 //   RETPD=1,   
 //   KEYLABL1='EMKLOWES',   
 //   KEYENCD1=H,
 //   DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V
 IOS000I 0A0C,10,IOE,01,0E00,,**,300113,LK41591T  584
   
  804C08C022402751 0001FF00 0005EE310092 2004E8205D6F2011
   
  ENCRYPTION FAILURE
   
  CU = 00 DRIVE = 00 EKM = 05EE31
   
 IEC512I I/O ERR
   
 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1,STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V   
 
 IEC518I SOFTWARE ERRSTAT: INTLABEL 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1
   
 Lizette


   
   
 Look in the EKM audit log. You might get some additional error
 information there. I tend to find the real reason for encryption
 failures there not in the joblog.

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EKM and Public Keys

2009-05-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have added the public key from our partner into our Top Secret envrionment.  
Now I need to see if it actually encrypted with that public key.  Here I am 
still not understanding this process of public keys so well.

IEC205I SYSUT2,LK41591T,COPYIT1,FILESEQ=1, COMPLETE VOLUME LIST,  
DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4R,VOLS=300027, 
LISTED VOL(S) HAVE BEEN DATA ENCRYPTED,KL1CD:L,KL2CD:H,  
KL1=rsaceru,KL2=EMKLOWES,TOTALBLOCKS=1   

I then took the tape and wrote back out the file.  Which was successful.  I 
thought if I used a public key I would not be able to read the tape again.  Yet 
my test did not support that thought.

So my questions
1)  When you encrypt a tape with a public key, can you still read it?
2)  How can you verify that the tape is actually setup to use the public key 
and not my private key?
3)  We are using EKM software from IBM, are there any displays that will help 
me verify that my partner will be able to read the tape?
Anything in ISMF, or CA1?

Thanks

Lizette

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Re: EKM and Public Keys

2009-05-20 Thread Mark Jacobs
Lizette Koehler wrote:
 I have added the public key from our partner into our Top Secret envrionment. 
  Now I need to see if it actually encrypted with that public key.  Here I am 
 still not understanding this process of public keys so well.

 IEC205I SYSUT2,LK41591T,COPYIT1,FILESEQ=1, COMPLETE VOLUME LIST,  
 DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4R,VOLS=300027, 
 LISTED VOL(S) HAVE BEEN DATA ENCRYPTED,KL1CD:L,KL2CD:H,  
 KL1=rsaceru,KL2=EMKLOWES,TOTALBLOCKS=1   

 I then took the tape and wrote back out the file.  Which was successful.  I 
 thought if I used a public key I would not be able to read the tape again.  
 Yet my test did not support that thought.

 So my questions
 1)  When you encrypt a tape with a public key, can you still read it?
 2)  How can you verify that the tape is actually setup to use the public key 
 and not my private key?
 3)  We are using EKM software from IBM, are there any displays that will help 
 me verify that my partner will be able to read the tape?
 Anything in ISMF, or CA1?

 Thanks

 Lizette

   
If you encrypted the tape with two keylabels, one from your generated
keypair and the other one from your partner then yes you should be able
to read it. Try encrypting the tape with only their key. Your attempt to
read the tape should fail since you don't have the associated private
key in your environment.

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Re: EKM and Public Keys

2009-05-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mark,

I have tried it with both the KEYLABL1 and KEYLABL2 parms.  They both fail the 
same way - I am not able to encrpyt the key that way.


//SYSUT1  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TSO.LK41591.PDF.CNTL(IDCAMS)  
//SYSUT2  DD DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=CART,DATACLAS=ENCRYPT,   
//   RETPD=1,   
//   KEYLABL1='EMKLOWES',   
//   KEYENCD1=H,
//   DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V
IOS000I 0A0C,10,IOE,01,0E00,,**,300113,LK41591T  584
  
 804C08C022402751 0001FF00 0005EE310092 2004E8205D6F2011
  
 ENCRYPTION FAILURE 
  
 CU = 00 DRIVE = 00 EKM = 05EE31
  
IEC512I I/O ERR 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1,STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V 
  
IEC518I SOFTWARE ERRSTAT: INTLABEL 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1  
  


Lizette


-
Lizette Koehler wrote:
 I have added the public key from our partner into our Top Secret 
 envrionment.  Now I need to see if it actually encrypted with that public 
 key.  Here I am still not understanding this process of public keys so well.

 IEC205I SYSUT2,LK41591T,COPYIT1,FILESEQ=1, COMPLETE VOLUME LIST,  
 DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4R,VOLS=300027, 
 LISTED VOL(S) HAVE BEEN DATA ENCRYPTED,KL1CD:L,KL2CD:H,  
 KL1=rsaceru,KL2=EMKLOWES,TOTALBLOCKS=1   

 I then took the tape and wrote back out the file.  Which was successful.  I 
 thought if I used a public key I would not be able to read the tape again.  
 Yet my test did not support that thought.

 So my questions
 1)  When you encrypt a tape with a public key, can you still read it?
 2)  How can you verify that the tape is actually setup to use the public key 
 and not my private key?
 3)  We are using EKM software from IBM, are there any displays that will 
 help me verify that my partner will be able to read the tape?
 Anything in ISMF, or CA1?

 Thanks

 Lizette

   
If you encrypted the tape with two keylabels, one from your generated
keypair and the other one from your partner then yes you should be able
to read it. Try encrypting the tape with only their key. Your attempt to
read the tape should fail since you don't have the associated private
key in your environment.


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Re: EKM and Public Keys

2009-05-20 Thread Mark Jacobs
Lizette Koehler wrote:
 Mark,

 I have tried it with both the KEYLABL1 and KEYLABL2 parms.  They both fail 
 the same way - I am not able to encrpyt the key that way.


 //SYSUT1  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TSO.LK41591.PDF.CNTL(IDCAMS)  
 //SYSUT2  DD DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=CART,DATACLAS=ENCRYPT,   
 //   RETPD=1,   
 //   KEYLABL1='EMKLOWES',   
 //   KEYENCD1=H,
 //   DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V
 IOS000I 0A0C,10,IOE,01,0E00,,**,300113,LK41591T  584  
 
  804C08C022402751 0001FF00 0005EE310092 2004E8205D6F2011  
 
  ENCRYPTION FAILURE   
 
  CU = 00 DRIVE = 00 EKM = 05EE31  
 
 IEC512I I/O ERR 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1,STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V   
 
 IEC518I SOFTWARE ERRSTAT: INTLABEL 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1
 


 Lizette


   

Look in the EKM audit log. You might get some additional error
information there. I tend to find the real reason for encryption
failures there not in the joblog.

snip

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Re: EKM and Public Keys

2009-05-20 Thread Jousma, David
IF you look in the metadata.xml, or use the utility to format it, it
tells which key was used to encrypt the tape.

_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.8497

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Jacobs
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: EKM and Public Keys

Lizette Koehler wrote:
 Mark,

 I have tried it with both the KEYLABL1 and KEYLABL2 parms.  They both
fail the same way - I am not able to encrpyt the key that way.


 //SYSUT1  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TSO.LK41591.PDF.CNTL(IDCAMS)  
 //SYSUT2  DD DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=CART,DATACLAS=ENCRYPT,   
 //   RETPD=1,   
 //   KEYLABL1='EMKLOWES',   
 //   KEYENCD1=H,
 //   DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V
 IOS000I 0A0C,10,IOE,01,0E00,,**,300113,LK41591T  584

  804C08C022402751 0001FF00 0005EE310092 2004E8205D6F2011

  ENCRYPTION FAILURE

  CU = 00 DRIVE = 00 EKM = 05EE31

 IEC512I I/O ERR
0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1,STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V   
 IEC518I SOFTWARE ERRSTAT: INTLABEL 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1



 Lizette


   

Look in the EKM audit log. You might get some additional error
information there. I tend to find the real reason for encryption
failures there not in the joblog.

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Re: EKM and Public Keys

2009-05-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
According to metadata it says 

keyalias1=rsaceru
keyalias2=EMKLOWES

Does this mean it is okay? that my partner will be able to decrypt the tape?

Lizette


IF you look in the metadata.xml, or use the utility to format it, it
tells which key was used to encrypt the tape.


Lizette Koehler wrote:
 Mark,

 I have tried it with both the KEYLABL1 and KEYLABL2 parms.  They both
fail the same way - I am not able to encrpyt the key that way.


 //SYSUT1  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TSO.LK41591.PDF.CNTL(IDCAMS)  
 //SYSUT2  DD DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=CART,DATACLAS=ENCRYPT,   
 //   RETPD=1,   
 //   KEYLABL1='EMKLOWES',   
 //   KEYENCD1=H,
 //   DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V
 IOS000I 0A0C,10,IOE,01,0E00,,**,300113,LK41591T  584

  804C08C022402751 0001FF00 0005EE310092 2004E8205D6F2011

  ENCRYPTION FAILURE

  CU = 00 DRIVE = 00 EKM = 05EE31

 IEC512I I/O ERR
0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1,STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V   
 IEC518I SOFTWARE ERRSTAT: INTLABEL 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1



 Lizette


   

Look in the EKM audit log. You might get some additional error
information there. I tend to find the real reason for encryption
failures there not in the joblog.

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Re: EKM and Public Keys

2009-05-20 Thread Jousma, David
If your partner has one of the keys that goes with that label, then I say yes.  
Send them a test tape

_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.8497


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:21 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: EKM and Public Keys

According to metadata it says 

keyalias1=rsaceru
keyalias2=EMKLOWES

Does this mean it is okay? that my partner will be able to decrypt the tape?

Lizette


IF you look in the metadata.xml, or use the utility to format it, it
tells which key was used to encrypt the tape.


Lizette Koehler wrote:
 Mark,

 I have tried it with both the KEYLABL1 and KEYLABL2 parms.  They both
fail the same way - I am not able to encrpyt the key that way.


 //SYSUT1  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TSO.LK41591.PDF.CNTL(IDCAMS)  
 //SYSUT2  DD DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=CART,DATACLAS=ENCRYPT,   
 //   RETPD=1,   
 //   KEYLABL1='EMKLOWES',   
 //   KEYENCD1=H,
 //   DSN=STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V
 IOS000I 0A0C,10,IOE,01,0E00,,**,300113,LK41591T  584

  804C08C022402751 0001FF00 0005EE310092 2004E8205D6F2011

  ENCRYPTION FAILURE

  CU = 00 DRIVE = 00 EKM = 05EE31

 IEC512I I/O ERR
0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1,STORAGE.ENCRYPT$.TEST.VOL4V   
 IEC518I SOFTWARE ERRSTAT: INTLABEL 0A0C,300113,SL,LK41591T,COPYIT1



 Lizette


   

Look in the EKM audit log. You might get some additional error
information there. I tend to find the real reason for encryption
failures there not in the joblog.

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