Re: Faxing from the mainframe
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/08/2008 at 02:02 PM, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Perhaps it's more precise to say that OV/MVS is, by far, the closest current match to PROFS. Is that fair? Is OV/VM dead? If not, it's the closest available to PROFS. OV/MVS was a hodgepodge of unrelated components bolted together. I'd be interested in comments from prior or current OV/MVS users as to how they view it. BTDTGTS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
When I was at PH Mining, we had OV/MVS for several years. We got it when there were very few PCs in the company. Most people who had PCs, and did emails or document writing on the mainframe didn't like OV/MVS. It was much more cumbersome to use than a PC. When most people had PCs, we got rid of OV/MVS. I don't remember when though. I know the OV/MVS email system was not connected to the internet. There was a project to allow people to send from OV/MVS to people within the company who had Groupwise, and vice versa, but that project was never completed. Eric Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OV/MVS was a hodgepodge of unrelated components bolted together. I'd be interested in comments from prior or current OV/MVS users as to how they view it. BTDTGTS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Aviva USA Des Moines, Iowa 515-645-5153 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2008 at 02:56 PM, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PROFS is still around, although the new name (and new version) is now OfficeVision. No; OV/VM may be PROFS, but OV/MVS is quite different. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/03/2008 at 02:41 PM, Brad Wissink [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? 1. Revise procedures to do a file transfer rather than sending a fax. 2. Send an e-mail to a fax server. The first is a better solution in the long run but the second takes less time and effort in the short run. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
Shmuel Metz writes: No; OV/VM may be PROFS, but OV/MVS is quite different. Perhaps it's more precise to say that OV/MVS is, by far, the closest current match to PROFS. Is that fair? - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
The last place I worked used MQ to get faxes from the mainframe to a RightFax server. Worked pretty well... although every so often RightFax would decide not to take a liking to certain messages/sizes and respond a bit petulantly. Rob Schramm Sirius Computer Solutions -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:41:08 -0500, Brad Wissink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Do a google on email2fax You should be able to solve the problem quicker than you think. Just create a PDF of the fax you want to send using txt2pdf and then email it to your email2fax provider. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
It is possible to get reliable e-mail-to-fax service. For example, you may wish to set up a private IPSec SMTP tunnel between your mainframe and your e-mail-to-fax service provider. Then you are connecting directly and over a private link, and you can have reasonable confidence in the transmission. Your e-mail-to-fax service provider should also have various means of generating transmission reports to indicate who got what (and when). Or, more precisely, that some fax machine answered and the paper is perhaps curled up under the filing cabinet. :-) - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
Not in touch with all the details as it's not my area, but we use VPS to a server that then uses RightFax. Believe me, that is as much as I know. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/03/2008 03:41:08 PM: -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Brad Wissink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Faxing from the mainframe --- We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 14:56 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: Re: Faxing, I think I'd echo what everyone else says about e-mailing. I'll not dispute the desirability of email over fax, but remember: you have to give the customer what s/he wants. We have vegetable brokers who come into the office at 5:30 in the morning, and who expect to see a price list and truck manifests in the hopper, which they snatch up on the way to the coffee pot. We've offered email, but they don't want it. We have small farmers, at the dirt end of nowhere, in sometimes un-air-conditioned offices. Connectivity is limited to a couple of 1FBs, and to them... fax machines are a new technology. They want to receive orders via fax, and we accommodate them. For the occasional fax you can purchase e-mail-to-faxing service And don't forget: you email something and it's like shooting an arrow into the fog. No guaranteed delivery, no notification of success or failure (unless you do something like AS2). With fax, you have a reasonable idea whether the document was received. Any serious email-to-fax service has to be able to provide you with the final disposition of your document. Really, that's a big deal. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 06:38 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: Not in touch with all the details as it's not my area, but we use VPS to a server that then uses RightFax. Believe me, that is as much as I know. That's about as much as you want to know. We're also RightFax customers, but not particularly happy ones. Since they absorbed CommercePath awhile ago, old useful features have evaporated and support has become... difficult. (Makes me yearn for the old days when we rolled our own. We built and operated a proprietary mainframe-to-fax system almost 20 years ago, a few years before I ever heard of anyone else's product. We probably should have marketed it... but management reminded us at the time that we're not in the computer business. Oh well; lost opportunities.) -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
We use ColumbusZ (formerly VtamPrint) for routing our printing and we have a Rightfax server defined as printer in ColumbusZ. Randy Harris Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA Lane Furniture Industries, Inc. Tupelo, MS 38802 Phone: 662-566-3447 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Wissink Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Faxing from the mainframe We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
We use eSendit from MacKinney. -Rob On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:41:08 -0500, Brad Wissink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Faxing from the mainframe
We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Wissink Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Faxing from the mainframe We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? We don't do this, but I'd look at using email. If you must fax, then email to a fax server inside your own organization. I figure that I could put up a Linux/Intel system to do this in a couple of days. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
On 3 Apr 2008 12:50:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: We don't do this, but I'd look at using email. If you must fax, then email to a fax server inside your own organization. I figure that I could put up a Linux/Intel system to do this in a couple of days. That's our solution as well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 14:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: If you must fax, then email to a fax server inside your own organization. I figure that I could put up a Linux/Intel system to do this in a couple of days. This is a bigger job than you might think. Your customers have a wide variety of fax machines, from expensive high-end systems to dirt cheap group-zero dinosaurs purchased in an office supply store 15 years ago. There have been times that we've simply given up and purchased new fax machines for customers when we just couldn't get their old doggy machines to talk to our fax servers. You have to retry failed operations, and you have to work out what counts as a failure, perhaps on a customer-by-customer basis. Some fax machines drop the connection prematurely. Did the paper print or not? If you retry the fax will the customer get lots of copies? Depends on whether the customer has one of those odd machines. You can't retry a call more than (I think) ten times or you run afoul of US FCC regs. You don't want to retry immediately either, 'cause you'll just get ten quick busy signals in a row. That means you'll have to requeue the call for some later time, either at the server or from the mainframe. (Oh, and make doubly sure that your fax number database is clean as a whistle. We once spent a week waking up a Collier County sheriff in the middle of the night -- ten phone calls in a row. He eventually brought a fax machine home from the office, plugged it in and discovered who we were. We apologized profusely and sent him a crate of citrus. Then we beat up on the sales force, who was supposed to double-check those fax numbers after each morning's failures.) You'll want to keep track of what calls were successful and which failed, implying bidirectional communication with your Intelbox. Many of the documents we send *must* be received, else they have to go out as snail mail. Along the same lines, you'll want to implement a priority scheme. Some faxes are *important*, while others aren't so. When you have a couple hundred broadcast faxes in the queue and a send-it-now bill of lading comes down the pipe you want it to have priority. Do you have multiple fax servers with multiple cards or fax modems? You'll want *not* to dial the same fax number at the same time, so your servers will have to talk to each other (or the mainframe app will have to intelligently distribute the load). You can significantly improve performance by batching up documents destined for the same phone number. But this also complicates your effort to provide recoverability and accountability. I take your point that a (e.g.) Hylafax instance would be relatively easy to throw together. But making a robust fax server that integrates well with your local information system is a surprisingly complex undertaking. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
You might be surprised just how many fax solutions are just because that's the way it's always been done and the recipient would -much- rather have email. To answer your question, we email. Be aware we have had problems when an individual goes on vacation and the mailbox fills up. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Wissink Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Faxing from the mainframe We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
Brad Wissink wrote: We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? We have been using a mainframe - fax solution for almost 20 years. It was originally called FaxGate. (Not sure of the current name.) Several years ago, we started emailing customers and distributors via z/OS SMTP/SENDMAIL. According to our tech support guys, we now send faxes only once or twice per year! As a result, we've decided to not support the fax server any more. In the event a fax *must* be sent, we plan to email *ourselves* from the mainframe, print it, and fax it manually. Haven't had to use that process yet ... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
Brad, When I was working at PH Mining, when they still had a mainframe, they did faxing through CICS, a special PC that came with the product, and a Unix application that ran on the mainframe. This was the only Unix system we had on the mainframe. The only problem is - I can't remember the name of the product. The product came bundled with a PC that actually did the faxing. CICS transactions were written to initiate the faxes. I know I had to copy a couple of programs into Unix files, and do some other setup that I can't remember. A lot of stuff had to be done in CICS to get it to work, but I didn't work with CICS. If you are interested at all, email me or call me at the number below during the day. I'll have to call someone at PH, but I need a good excuse to see how they're doing anyway. I see you work at Iowa State, just up the road. I remember in the late 60's visiting my brother when he worked there. He took me to the IT department, and got someone to show me around. I think they had a 360/65 back then. I had just started as a computer operator, so it was really neat to see a big computer. I was working on a model 40 at the time. Eric Brad Wissink wrote: We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Aviva USA Des Moines, Iowa 515-645-5153 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
When I was at Varian Associates, I wrote a PROFS-to-Telex interface. I wonder if anyone still uses PROFS (officially discontinued in favor of the great-in-theory-but-wretched-in-practice Lotus Notes)? Or even Telexes? At the time, there was a legal requirement that Telexes met but email did not. -- Jack Hamilton Management Information Analysis - Analytic Information Services Kaiser Foundation Health Plan, Inc. 1950 Franklin Street, Oakland, California 94612 +1 510 987-1556 (KP tieline 8-427-1556) NOTE: This email document and attachments are covered by CA Evidence Code §1157 and CA Health and Safety Code §1370. NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On 03/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was at Varian Associates, I wrote a PROFS-to-Telex interface. I wonder if anyone still uses PROFS (officially discontinued in favor of the great-in-theory-but-wretched-in-practice Lotus Notes)? Or even Telexes? At the time, there was a legal requirement that Telexes met but email did not. I wrote one of those around 1988, entirely in REXX, because my employer didn't want to buy the good but very pricey VMTelex product from Systems Telecoms (later bought out by SoftSwitch). It worked quite well, handled inbound as well as outbound, but it was ready just in time for Telex to become irrelevant in the industry I worked in. But Telex lives! See http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10609367 for a neat little article. And another anecdote about the rapid convergence of time sharing, email, packet switching, and Telex in the 1970s is at http://www.rogerdmoore.ca/INF/EIPSPTTa.html Ahem -still not Friday yet. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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http://www.rogerdmoore.ca/INF/EIPSPTTa.html Wow, it's a small small world. I used to attend lectures given by Ian Sharp, in the 1970's, at UWaterloo. And, he was a Bridge partner of mine in thew mid-1980's. Is he still around? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Faxing from the mainframe
PROFS is still around, although the new name (and new version) is now OfficeVision. You can get more details on OfficeVision/MVS here: http://www.ibm.com/software/applications/office/officevision/index.html Yes, it's available for ordering. The IBM product number is 5685-106. Re: Faxing, I think I'd echo what everyone else says about e-mailing. For the occasional fax you can purchase e-mail-to-faxing service (over the Internet) from any of several companies, then just use the same e-mail path from your mainframe. PDF would be a good format to e-mail. However, I do see something in the IBM catalog for a z/OS fax gateway. It's listed as IBM product number 5620-FIE, and it's called MessagePlus/Open for z/OS from INTERSCOPE. There's some more information about that product here: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/cm/solutions_mpo.html - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html