Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
good catch Scott Rowe wrote: I assume the list below was cut and pasted from ISPF 3.4, in which case I can not imagine how the first entry could not be cataloged, how else could it have been displayed? Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:22 PM >>> Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
If you use the CATALOG(xxx) parameter, you don't need to delete or redefine the alias. Bruce Richardson wrote: To me, it sounds like this dataset is orphaned in the wrong usercat. You need to temporary delete the alias to the correct usercat; delete the cluster with the catalog parameter (or define the alias to the wrong usercat before the delete); finally define the alias back to the correct usercat. Hope that helps. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
I'm sure we can help you but I suspect a phone call will be needed. Why don't you email me directly and I can give you my direct phone number. I promise not to push any vendor tool on you! I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this by using LISTCAT, perhaps some VTOC lists, some prints of your VVDSs, etc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
To me, it sounds like this dataset is orphaned in the wrong usercat. You need to temporary delete the alias to the correct usercat; delete the cluster with the catalog parameter (or define the alias to the wrong usercat before the delete); finally define the alias back to the correct usercat. Hope that helps. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
First you need to check all the components. The LISTCAT is listing the BCS. You should list the VVDS of the volume where the DATA and INDEX components are located. Check if the entries are there and if they point to the right catalog. Also, using 3.4 and specifying the VOLSER, see if the datasets are there (if they have DSCB-1). The commands to be used depend on what you find. This is a sample job to list the VVDS: //DEFFIL01 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=2M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=Q //DDVVDS DD DSN=SYS1.VVDS.VSMSV01,DISP=SHR,AMP=AMORG,UNIT=SYSDA, //VOL=SER=SMSV01 //SYSIN DD * PRINT INFILE(DDVVDS) SKIP(000) /* Where you must replace all SMSV01 with your volser. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Hi I replied yesterday on the Google group forum for IBMMAIN but saw no posting when reading the Listserv postings today What I have to say is if the VSAM is definitely uncataloged then the following will work ) Run an IEHLIST LISTVTOC of the volume on which the VSAm DS resides 2) Check that the entry for the DSname is in the VTOC and that offset X'52' in the Format-1 DSCB is equal to '14' 3) Run AMAZPZAP to zap the "14" to "10" for the name entry 4) Run IEHPROGM to SCRATCH the Dataset. IEHPROGM now thinks it is a Sequential DS Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Assuming you are on a current version of ISPF, if you check the 3.4 screen there is a field/option labelled "Display Catalog Name". If you place a "/" there the display will show you what CATALOG the file(s) were found. Dennis -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Thanks...been there done that and still NO Go >>> Mohd Shahrifuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/8/2008 1:07 AM >>> Dear Howard, How about try to delete using VVR option. May be can help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Did that too. No Go >>> "Crabtree, Anne D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/8/2008 11:36 AM >>> I may be totally off base, but what if you run a DEFINE CLUSTER to try and get it in your catalog and then see if it will let you delete it?? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Thanks...been there done that and still NO Go >>> Mohd Shahrifuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/8/2008 1:07 AM >>> Dear Howard, How about try to delete using VVR option. May be can help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:22:09 -0400, Howard Rifkind wrote: > > I'm trying to delete the following datasets: > > PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* > PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 > PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 > > For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. > > For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. > > I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. > > Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the > system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Let's start at the beginning. In 3.4, enter "PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL" in the DSNAME LEVEL field and clear the volume field. Do you see all three and are the last two on volume OPSPR2? If so, it is not a catalog or alias issue. Repeat the process and add OPSPR2 to the volume field. Do the last two show up? If not, what you have is a cluster without its components (as if the pack was reinitialized or restored from a full volume dump taken before the cluster was created). Repeat step 1. To the left of the cluster name type "LISTCAT ENT(/) ALL". (It is OK to overlap the name.) Does IDCAMS report any errors? Do both components show up? Once we have this information, we should be able to provide a working solution instead of everyone grasping at straws. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Howard, The point of my last reply is this: These datasets are NOT uncataloged. You need to get that idea out of your head. This is a VSAM cluster that is indeed cataloged, but you seem to be having a problem locating them in your catalog structure. Get away from any ideas of uncataloging these entries - even if you were to succeed in doing so, you would then have uncataloged VSAM elements on disk, which would be a whole other problem you would need to deal with. I would suggest that you re-run the listcat you posted, but add the "ALL" parameter, and show us the output. We could then proceed from there. >>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/8/2008 11:18 AM >>> Thanks...been there done that and still NO Go >>> Mohd Shahrifuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/8/2008 1:07 AM >>> Dear Howard, How about try to delete using VVR option. May be can help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
there used to be a RECATALOG option which allowed the datasets to be redefined and then deleted -i am not sure if it is still around. DEFINE - CLUSTER - (NAME(.yyy) - INDEXED FILE(DD1) - RECATALOG - SPEED - SHR(3,3) - TRACKS(005,5) - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RES: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Let's try something : VSAM = 'PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL' VOL = 'OPSPR2' Option1: Listcat VSAM If Catalog.VSAM = Catalog.HLQ.VSAM Then If VOL OFFLINE Then ONLINE VOL Endif Else REPRO VSAM Mergecat to Catalog.HLQ.VSAM Endif DELETE VSAM Option2: If VOL OFFLINE Then ONLINE VOL Endif PRINT VVDS VOL FIND VSAM in VVDS SYSOUT Catalog.VSAM = Catalog in VVDS SYSOUT If Catalog.VSAM Not CONNECTED Then IMPORT Catalog.Vsam CONNECT Endif DELETE VSAM CATALOG(Catalog.Vsam) Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254 - DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 R: 22021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem original- |De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Howard Rifkind |Enviada em: terça-feira, 7 de outubro de 2008 17:22 |Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU |Assunto: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged |or don't exist. | |Hello all, | |I'm trying to delete the following datasets: | |PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* |PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 |PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 | |For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. | |For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. | |I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. | |Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of |the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. | |Thanks. |_ |LEGAL NOTICE |Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is |confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the |addressee(s) only. |Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. |If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the |contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in |reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are |not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then |delete this message and empty from your trash. | | |-- |For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access |instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the |message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at |http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html | | AVISO LEGAL Esta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. LEGAL ADVICE This message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RES: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Let's try something : VSAM = 'PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL' VOL = 'OPSPR2' Option1: Listcat VSAM If Catalog.VSAM = Catalog.HLQ.VSAM Then If VOL OFFLINE Then ONLINE VOL Endif Else REPRO VSAM Mergecat to Catalog.HLQ.VSAM Endif DELETE VSAM Option2: If VOL OFFLINE Then ONLINE VOL Endif PRINT VVDS VOL FIND VSAM in VVDS SYSOUT Catalog.VSAM = Catalog in VVDS SYSOUT If Catalog.VSAM Not CONNECTED Then IMPORT Catalog.Vsam CONNECT Endif DELETE VSAM CATALOG(Catalog.Vsam) Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254 - DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 R: 22021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem original- |De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Howard Rifkind |Enviada em: terça-feira, 7 de outubro de 2008 17:22 |Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU |Assunto: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged |or don't exist. | |Hello all, | |I'm trying to delete the following datasets: | |PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* |PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 |PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 | |For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. | |For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. | |I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. | |Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of |the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. | |Thanks. |_ |LEGAL NOTICE |Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is |confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the |addressee(s) only. |Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. |If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the |contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in |reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are |not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then |delete this message and empty from your trash. | | |-- |For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access |instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the |message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at |http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html | | AVISO LEGAL Esta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. LEGAL ADVICE This message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:22:09 -0400, Howard Rifkind wrote: I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. It is not at all clear to me what you have. Clearly, these are cataloged in a BCS. Either in the master catalog or in a user catalog with an appropriate alias. Otherwise, they wouldn't show up under a DSLIST. I think you need to answer these questions. 1. What happens if you do a LISTCAT ALL on these? Is the first a cluster with associations to the other two? 2. is volume OPSPR2 online? 3. If it is online, see if the last two are in the volume. 4. Run a pair if DIAGNOSEs between the VVDS on that volume and the BCS that these are cataloged in. This information will help to determine what to do next. Just a shot in the dark. From your 3.4 list, try entering a line command of DEL (not D - they generate different commands) against the cluster (VSAM) name only. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques ==> Check out the Trainer's Friend Store to purchase z/OS <== ==> application developer toolkits. Sample code in four<== ==> programming languages, JCL to Assemble or compile, <== ==> bind and test. <== ==> http://www.trainersfriend.com/TTFStore/index.html<== -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:22:09 -0400, Howard Rifkind wrote: I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. It is not at all clear to me what you have. Clearly, these are cataloged in a BCS. Either in the master catalog or in a user catalog with an appropriate alias. Otherwise, they wouldn't show up under a DSLIST. I think you need to answer these questions. 1. What happens if you do a LISTCAT ALL on these? Is the first a cluster with associations to the other two? 2. is volume OPSPR2 online? 3. If it is online, see if the last two are in the volume. 4. Run a pair if DIAGNOSEs between the VVDS on that volume and the BCS that these are cataloged in. This information will help to determine what to do next. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
I may be totally off base, but what if you run a DEFINE CLUSTER to try and get it in your catalog and then see if it will let you delete it?? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Thanks...been there done that and still NO Go >>> Mohd Shahrifuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/8/2008 1:07 AM >>> Dear Howard, How about try to delete using VVR option. May be can help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Thanks...been there done that and still NO Go >>> Mohd Shahrifuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/8/2008 1:07 AM >>> Dear Howard, How about try to delete using VVR option. May be can help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
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How about try to delete using VVR option. May be can help.
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If you know which pack it's on can do DIAGNOSE and it should tell you the
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Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Dear Howard, How about try to delete using VVR option. May be can help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
What you've got here is a VSAM Cluster. List the catalogs to find the catalog that contains it, then do a DELETE PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCWCNTL CLUSTER - CAT(catalog name) It sounds like you may be mis-cataloged. Is the HLQ valid in your catalog? Is it an alias pointing to another catalog? Rick --- Howard Rifkind wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:57:47 -0400, Howard Rifkind wrote: Here is the listing from a LISTCAT. CLUSTER --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL DATA --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA INDEX -- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX ... IDCAMS SYSTEM SERVICES LISTING FROM CATALOG -- PCAT.SYSTEM Can't delete it, can't rename it...etc. It acts like the PDB high level isn't related to this catalog. Maybe a DELETE with the CATALOG(PCAT.SYSTEM) parameter ??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Perhaps it is in the "wrong" catalog? Howard Rifkind wrote: IDC3012I ENTRY PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL NOT FOUND+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42 *** -- | Jim Phoenix | Voice: (310) 338-0400 x316 | | Senior Software Developer| Fax: (310) 338-0801| | Phoenix Software International | Alt fax: (310) 337-2685| | 5200 W. Century Blvd., Suite 800 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Los Angeles, CA 90045| http://www.phoenixsoftware.com | Opinions expressed by this individual are not necessarily those of the Company. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
IDC3012I ENTRY PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL NOT FOUND+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42 *** >>> Jason Gately <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 6:02 PM >>> If you do a TSO DELETE 'PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL'what R eturn & Reason Codes do you get back from IDCAMS. Might provide some clue as to what's going on. Cheers.Jason. Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 08/10/2008 08:57 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Yes it was. Here is the listing from a LISTCAT. CLUSTER --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL DATA --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA INDEX -- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFASM NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFIMAG NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFMAC NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFSAMP NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.AFONTPS NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.AMACLIB NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFASM NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFDIST NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFIMAGE NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFLOAD NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFMAC NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFSAMP NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.FONTPS NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.MACLIB IDCAMS SYSTEM SERVICES LISTING FROM CATALOG -- PCAT.SYSTEM Can't delete it, can't rename it...etc. >>> Scott Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 5:52 PM >>> I assume the list below was cut and pasted from ISPF 3.4, in which case I can not imagine how the first entry could not be cataloged, how else could it have been displayed? >>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:22 PM >>> Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. This e-mail is sent by or on behalf of the named sender identified above. If: (a) you do not wish to receive any e-mail marketing material from this person in the future, please forward the contents of this email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject box. (b) you wish to unsubscribe from all central e-mail marketing lists used by our business, please forward the contents of this e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe from all central e-mail marketing lists" in the subject box. If you do not forward the contents of this e-mail with your unsubscription then it may not be able to be implemented. The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify us by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or reply by e-mail direct to the sender and then destroy any electronic and paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of a member of the National Australia Bank Group of companies. Any advice contained in this e-mail has been prepared without taking into account your objectives, financial situation or needs. Before acting on any advice in this e-mail, National Australia Bank Limited recommends that you consider whether it is appropriate for your circumstances. If this e-mail contains reference to any financial products, the National recommends you consider the Product Disclosure Statement (PDS) or other disclosure document before making any decisions regarding any products. The National Australia Bank Group of companies does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
>Thanks but this didn't do itJCL below... >//STEP01 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS >//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > DELETE - > PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX - > NOSCRATCH - > NOERASE - > PURGE Get rid of the purge -- that is for physical datasets, to over-ride expiry dates. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
There is an entry there but that's all. >>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 5:57 PM >>> Yes it was. Here is the listing from a LISTCAT. CLUSTER --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL DATA --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA INDEX -- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFASM NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFIMAG NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFMAC NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFSAMP NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.AFONTPS NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.AMACLIB NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFASM NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFDIST NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFIMAGE NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFLOAD NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFMAC NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFSAMP NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.FONTPS NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.MACLIB IDCAMS SYSTEM SERVICES LISTING FROM CATALOG -- PCAT.SYSTEM Can't delete it, can't rename it...etc. >>> Scott Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 5:52 PM >>> I assume the list below was cut and pasted from ISPF 3.4, in which case I can not imagine how the first entry could not be cataloged, how else could it have been displayed? >>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:22 PM >>> Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-mai
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
If you do a TSO DELETE 'PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL'what R eturn & Reason Codes do you get back from IDCAMS. Might provide some clue as to what's going on. Cheers.Jason. Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 08/10/2008 08:57 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Yes it was. Here is the listing from a LISTCAT. CLUSTER --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL DATA --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA INDEX -- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFASM NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFIMAG NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFMAC NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFSAMP NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.AFONTPS NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.AMACLIB NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFASM NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFDIST NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFIMAGE NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFLOAD NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFMAC NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFSAMP NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.FONTPS NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.MACLIB IDCAMS SYSTEM SERVICES LISTING FROM CATALOG -- PCAT.SYSTEM Can't delete it, can't rename it...etc. >>> Scott Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 5:52 PM >>> I assume the list below was cut and pasted from ISPF 3.4, in which case I can not imagine how the first entry could not be cataloged, how else could it have been displayed? >>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:22 PM >>> Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. This e-mail is sent by or on behalf of the named sender identified above. If: (a) you do not wish to receive any e-mail marketing material from this person in the future, please forward the contents of this email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject box. (b) you wish to unsubscribe from all central e-mail marketing lists used by our business, please forward the contents of this e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe from all central e-mail marketing lists" in the subject box. If you do not forward the contents of this e-mail with your unsubscription then it may not be able to be implemented. The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify us by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or reply by e-mail direct to the sender and then destroy any electronic and paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of a member of the National Australia Bank Group of companies. Any advice contained in this e-mail has been prepared without taking into account your objectives, financial situation or needs. Before acting on any advice in this e-mail, National Australia Bank Limited recommends that you consider whether it is appropriate for your circumstances. If this e-mail contains reference to any financial products, the National recommends you consider the Product Disclosure Statement (PDS) or other disclosure document before making any decisions regarding any products. The National Australia Bank Group of companies does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Yes it was. Here is the listing from a LISTCAT. CLUSTER --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL DATA --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA INDEX -- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFASM NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFIMAG NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFMAC NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFSAMP NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.AFONTPS NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.AMACLIB NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFASM NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFDIST NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFIMAGE NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFLOAD NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFMAC NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.DCFSAMP NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.FONTPS NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.MACLIB IDCAMS SYSTEM SERVICES LISTING FROM CATALOG -- PCAT.SYSTEM Can't delete it, can't rename it...etc. >>> Scott Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 5:52 PM >>> I assume the list below was cut and pasted from ISPF 3.4, in which case I can not imagine how the first entry could not be cataloged, how else could it have been displayed? >>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:22 PM >>> Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
I assume the list below was cut and pasted from ISPF 3.4, in which case I can not imagine how the first entry could not be cataloged, how else could it have been displayed? >>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:22 PM >>> Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Try again, this time use only NOSCRATCH. And, as another poster pointed out, verify we are working in the catalog we think we are working in. If all that fails, let's take a look at the specific error message(s). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Thanks but this didn't do itJCL below... //STEP01 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* DELETE - PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX - NOSCRATCH - NOERASE - PURGE >>> Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:27 PM >>> Try a DELETE NOSCRATCH on each component. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Tried that also, No Go. >>> Jack Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:34 PM >>> This has been talked about numerous times, try the archives. Easiest way is to recatalog the DSN and then delete it (hopefully no BCS name issue) if you don't have one of the catalog products. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Could these datasets be catalogued/shared on another system? If so, and they are unallocated and unwanted, then delete NOSCRATCH them from each system. On the last system use the SCRATCH. DELETE - PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL - CLUSTER - SCRATCH Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello all, > > I'm trying to delete the following datasets: > > PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* > PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 > PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 > > For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. > > For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. > > I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. > > Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An > ISPF > 3.4 is showing these up. > > Thanks. > _ > LEGAL NOTICE > Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential > and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. > Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. > If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the > contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in > reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an > addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this > message and empty from your trash. > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
DEL 'cluster name' NSCR If that fails, DEL 'component name' VVR FILE(DD1) Where DD1 points to volume OPSPR2 HTH, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Thanks but this didn't do itJCL below... //STEP01 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* DELETE - PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX - NOSCRATCH - NOERASE - PURGE >>> Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 4:27 PM >>> Try a DELETE NOSCRATCH on each component. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
This has been talked about numerous times, try the archives. Easiest way is to recatalog the DSN and then delete it (hopefully no BCS name issue) if you don't have one of the catalog products. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Try a DELETE NOSCRATCH on each component. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist. Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.
Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D' states that it isn't cataloged. For the other two a 'D' states that the datasets don't exist. I've tries a delete NVR and a normal delete. Nothing works. Can anyone make some suggestions as how to get these out of the system. An ISPF 3.4 is showing these up. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
