Logging successful attempts was Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 13 Apr 2008 to 14 Apr 2008 (#2008-105)

2008-04-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Apr 2008 06:56:28 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:51 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote:
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 Date:Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:51 -0700
 From:Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SMF in System Logger
 
 In the absence of CF Sizer assistance ;-( I looked at the samples from 
IBM
 and thought they seemed awfully big. A structures occupies dedicated 
real
 storage, after all; I tend to be stingy with it. After consulting with 
our
 SMF data caretaker who saw no obvious advantage is splitting records at 
the
 collection point, I set up only a single CF structure like this that
 captures all records:
 
 STRUCTURE
   NAME(IFASMF_DEFAULT)  /* SMF structure for unspecified types */
 INITSIZE(1)
 SIZE(5)
 
 Despite occasional IXC585E 'structure full' messages, I haven't 
increased
 it from the INITSIZE value. This structure supports only one system.
 Another member is 1.7 (no can do), and the third is also 1.9 but a
 'bronze-plex' member that does not share DASD. Haven't quite figured out
 how handle that puppy yet.
 
 An interesting quirk I just noticed: most (for today, all!) IXC585E
 messages are being issued by the other 1.9 member, which still uses MANx
 recording. No messages on the 1.7 guy or on the guy actually using 
System
 Logger.
 
 We have several non-parallel-sysplex systems that are candidates for
 DASD-only logging but haven't ventured down that road as yet. Book says 
it
 works.

We're looking at multiple structures to accommodate the heavy hitters.  In 
our shop, DB/2, the occasional
(all right, frequent) CICS looper, and the fact that Audit wants us to log 
all access attempts to production datasets including successful attempts 
has caused us in the past to lose SMF data.  We may adjust up or down 
based on our experiences.  Already I've dropped the system specific 
structures I mentioned in an earlier post
in favor of SYSPLEX versions.  I take your point though and it may be 
overkill but I may have to prove it to 
our Capacity folks.

 

If you are capturing the type 14, 15, and 6x records anyway, could you
turn off logging the RACF successful attempts to SMF because you have
the successful use in the regular SMF data?

Clark Morris

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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 13 Apr 2008 to 14 Apr 2008 (#2008-105)

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Holloway
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:51 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote:
 --
 
 Date:Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:51 -0700
 From:Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SMF in System Logger
 
 In the absence of CF Sizer assistance ;-( I looked at the samples from 
IBM
 and thought they seemed awfully big. A structures occupies dedicated 
real
 storage, after all; I tend to be stingy with it. After consulting with 
our
 SMF data caretaker who saw no obvious advantage is splitting records at 
the
 collection point, I set up only a single CF structure like this that
 captures all records:
 
 STRUCTURE
   NAME(IFASMF_DEFAULT)  /* SMF structure for unspecified types */
 INITSIZE(1)
 SIZE(5)
 
 Despite occasional IXC585E 'structure full' messages, I haven't 
increased
 it from the INITSIZE value. This structure supports only one system.
 Another member is 1.7 (no can do), and the third is also 1.9 but a
 'bronze-plex' member that does not share DASD. Haven't quite figured out
 how handle that puppy yet.
 
 An interesting quirk I just noticed: most (for today, all!) IXC585E
 messages are being issued by the other 1.9 member, which still uses MANx
 recording. No messages on the 1.7 guy or on the guy actually using 
System
 Logger.
 
 We have several non-parallel-sysplex systems that are candidates for
 DASD-only logging but haven't ventured down that road as yet. Book says 
it
 works.

We're looking at multiple structures to accommodate the heavy hitters.  In 
our shop, DB/2, the occasional
(all right, frequent) CICS looper, and the fact that Audit wants us to log 
all access attempts to production datasets including successful attempts 
has caused us in the past to lose SMF data.  We may adjust up or down 
based on our experiences.  Already I've dropped the system specific 
structures I mentioned in an earlier post
in favor of SYSPLEX versions.  I take your point though and it may be 
overkill but I may have to prove it to 
our Capacity folks.

 

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