Re: IBM 3880 control units
I know it is insane, but I still would like to get a 3380/3880 before they are gone. I have stopped seeing them in the junkyards (bad sign). Anyone know of any of this old junk about to get the axe? William "kVA" Donzelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 3880 control units
On Thursday 09 March 2006 10:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The manuals I really want are: > (1) IBM 3880 Storage Control Model 13 Description, GA32-0067 > (2) IBM 3880 Storage Control Model 23 Description, GA32-0083 I have a copy of GA32-0083-3. -- Gilbert Saint-Flour GSF Software http://gsf-soft.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM 3880 control units
> I have the IBM 3880 Storage Control Models 1,2,3, and 4 Description Manual, > GA26-1661-9. I am looking for the technical description books for the models > 13 and 23 that discuss the CCWs in detail. Trust me. You need Section 2 of the Redbook. What you need is NOT in the GA manual. (ex-Field Product Manager, DASD, 1982-1985, National Advanced Systems Germany.) -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 3880 control units
- Forwarded by August Carideo/RYE/US/Avon on 03/09/2006 10:53 AM - "(IBM Mainframe Discussion List)"To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: M> Subject: Re: IBM 3880 control units Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> 03/09/2006 10:30 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List In a message dated 3/9/2006 9:17:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >If memory serves (and I'm sure it does) the manual you really need is a Redbook. No red books, please. The manuals I really want are: (1) IBM 3880 Storage Control Model 13 Description, GA32-0067 (2) IBM 3880 Storage Control Model 23 Description, GA32-0083 The Model 23 book was also orderable as part of GBOF-0098. I have the IBM 3880 Storage Control Models 1,2,3, and 4 Description Manual, GA26-1661-9. I am looking for the technical description books for the models 13 and 23 that discuss the CCWs in detail. Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 3880 control units
In a message dated 3/9/2006 9:17:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >If memory serves (and I'm sure it does) the manual you really need is a Redbook. No red books, please. The manuals I really want are: (1) IBM 3880 Storage Control Model 13 Description, GA32-0067 (2) IBM 3880 Storage Control Model 23 Description, GA32-0083 The Model 23 book was also orderable as part of GBOF-0098. I have the IBM 3880 Storage Control Models 1,2,3, and 4 Description Manual, GA26-1661-9. I am looking for the technical description books for the models 13 and 23 that discuss the CCWs in detail. Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM 3880 control units
Holy Jehosophat! That's around a quarter of a century ago. If memory serves (and I'm sure it does) the manual you really need is a Redbook. I was working for Itel/NAS at the time the 3880 came out and it gave us _no_ _end_ of grief because ot its tag timing, which did not conform to the OEMI manual. An evil machine. But the -13's Redbook - whose name and number now escape me - were the first place that IBM discussed ECKD in public. Most especially the Define Extent command. At the time, I became convinced that IBM would extend this architecture to support continuous backup - a sort would set bits to indicate its DASD use was temporary, but a database might set bits to ask the controller to do an incremental backup of the changed tracks. A fair amount of effort went into researching that. I kept the 3880-13 Redbook for many years, and just as many years ago I threw it away. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM 3880 control units
z/OS V1R7.0 and z/OS.e V1R7.0 Planning for Installation (GA22-7504-14; build date 09/30/05) says that the 3880 Storage Control is "supported by the software (z/OS and z/OS.e)" (section 4.3.3 Identifying I/O device requirements). Is there any MVS-S/390-z/OS system anywhere that still has any model of 3880 attached to it? Does anybody know where I can find a copy of the control unit reference manuals for the 3880-13 or -23? Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
