Re: ICF - Information Center Facility
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:14 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information Center >Facility? > Yes. I implemented the Application Manager portion of it when TSO/E first came out. Application Manager provides a vehicle for deploying and managing ISPF applications that I've found effective and easy to use, lo these many years. Andy Higgins Axciom -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICF - Information Center Facility
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:55:08 -0500, Patrick Lyon wrote: >On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:29:27 -0500, Chase, John >wrote: > >>> -Original Message- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe >>> >>> Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information >>Center >>> Facility? >> >>I thought ICF meant Integrated Catalog Facility, which we do use (since >>CVOLs don't work any more). I've not heard of the other, so I guess we >>don't use that one. >> >>-jc- >> > > >I smell a "ICF misuse" thread brewing... > Ed, Aren't you talking about TSO/E Information Center Facility (which would be less confusing by using the full name)? If so, I think one of our business units may have been using it but not so any more. I'd have to ask someone. Why do you ask? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICF - Information Center Facility
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:14 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information >Center Facility? >... Is ICF the same "Information Center" as in the Eclipse-based doc viewing cr..., uhr, system? If so, I had to use it as part of a beta program (the things IBM used to call ESPs). That was the only way the product's doc was provided. But that system called itself "IBM Help System" so it may not be what you are asking about. The only thing I liked was a fairly good multi-doc search facility, and that was negated by my never figuring out how to limit the search to the one manual I was reading. (I'm sure the capability was there. I just never found it.) As near as I can tell this was just another way of presenting all of BookManager's inconveniences to the user (but with IBM using someone else's implementation). Luckily I was able to get to a PDF copy of each manual from within the system. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICF - Information Center Facility
I have used it and find it terrible. It is good for searching for a reference, but when you are used to having the book (or its digital counterpart) in hand, I absolutely hate ICF. It slow (Eclipse, JAVA based), and does not present information in book format. Even Softcopy Reader is far better. Long Live Library Reader and Book Manager format! On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:20 +, Linda Mooney wrote: >Hi Ed, > > > >I have never used it. Do you? If so, how do you find it useful? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Linda Mooney >- Original Message - >From: "Edward Jaffe" >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:52:14 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >Subject: ICF - Information Center Facility > >Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information Center >Facility? > >-- >Edward E Jaffe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICF - Information Center Facility
Hi Ed, I have never used it. Do you? If so, how do you find it useful? Thanks, Linda Mooney - Original Message - From: "Edward Jaffe" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:52:14 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: ICF - Information Center Facility Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information Center Facility? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICF - Information Center Facility
We moved a small z/800 to the US from Switzerland a few years ago. They had used ICF. We left it in place. Regards, Listen. Think. Solve. Steve Wolf Rockwell Automation 414-382-4308 Edward Jaffe Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 07/31/2009 12:52 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject ICF - Information Center Facility Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information Center Facility? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICF - Information Center Facility
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:29:27 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe >> >> Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information >Center >> Facility? > >I thought ICF meant Integrated Catalog Facility, which we do use (since >CVOLs don't work any more). I've not heard of the other, so I guess we >don't use that one. > >-jc- > I smell a "ICF misuse" thread brewing... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICF - Information Center Facility
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > > Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information Center > Facility? I thought ICF meant Integrated Catalog Facility, which we do use (since CVOLs don't work any more). I've not heard of the other, so I guess we don't use that one. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ICF - Information Center Facility
Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information Center Facility? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
