Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:47:30 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi Do we need a JES COLD start to changed some classes to WLM managed ? (according the book yes we need) The manual is correct. You need a cold start for a change made via PARMLIB to take effect. However, if you read a little closer you will find that it says cold start or operator command. So you can change it with an operator command, but you should also change the PARMLIB definition so they are in sync in case you ever have to do a cold start for any reason (including disaster recovery which many shops do). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
Hi Do we need a JES COLD start to changed some classes to WLM managed ? (according the book yes we need) -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
No - Penina Koenigsberg P 972-2-5602354 972-50-5665891 9 penin...@education.gov.il -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? Hi Do we need a JES COLD start to changed some classes to WLM managed ? (according the book yes we need) -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
Subje From: Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Subject: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? Do we need a JES COLD start to changed some classes to WLM managed ? (according the book yes we need) this should work: $t jobclass(w),mode=wlm Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
Hi We have in this way, but we would like to make it permanent . Walter Marguccio wrote: Subje From: Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Subject: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? Do we need a JES COLD start to changed some classes to WLM managed ? (according the book yes we need) this should work: $t jobclass(w),mode=wlm Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
Subje From: Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Subject: Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? We have in this way, but we would like to make it permanent . Oh, in this case I would also say you need a COLD start. This is what the book says: Modification: $T JOBCLASS operator command or cold start Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
Sorry - about the lack of clarity - a cold start is unnecessary if everytime you ipl add to your automatic operations or even commndxx the command Penina Koenigsberg P 972-2-5602354 972-50-5665891 9 penin...@education.gov.il -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? Subje From: Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Subject: Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? We have in this way, but we would like to make it permanent . Oh, in this case I would also say you need a COLD start. This is what the book says: Modification: $T JOBCLASS operator command or cold start Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
Why can't you just change the definitions in the JES2 parmlib member? Kees. ? ? penin...@education.gov.il wrote in message news:6bc1d65d2efe004c8852b8036bf0d12005593...@owa.education.gov.il... Sorry - about the lack of clarity - a cold start is unnecessary if everytime you ipl add to your automatic operations or even commndxx the command Penina Koenigsberg P 972-2-5602354 ?972-50-5665891 9 penin...@education.gov.il -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? Subje From: Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Subject: Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? We have in this way, but we would like to make it permanent . Oh, in this case I would also say you need a COLD start. This is what the book says: Modification: $T JOBCLASS operator command or cold start Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
Hi We have changed in the parmlib , restarted a member in the SYSPLEX with WARM start and the CLASS remained in JES mode, (as it was on the other member in the SYSPLEX). Till now, o.k. We have normally only one SYSTEM in the SYSPLEX, and I wanted to be sure, if I restart the JES , it will not force a cold start dialog etc . Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: Why can't you just change the definitions in the JES2 parmlib member? Kees. ? ? penin...@education.gov.il wrote in message news:6bc1d65d2efe004c8852b8036bf0d12005593...@owa.education.gov.il... Sorry - about the lack of clarity - a cold start is unnecessary if everytime you ipl add to your automatic operations or even commndxx the command Penina Koenigsberg P 972-2-5602354 ?972-50-5665891 9 penin...@education.gov.il -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? Subje From: Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Subject: Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ? We have in this way, but we would like to make it permanent . Oh, in this case I would also say you need a COLD start. This is what the book says: Modification: $T JOBCLASS operator command or cold start Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
When the manual says $T command or cold start, I use the $T command to make the change and then update the JES2 parms to reflect my change. That way it is permanent. It will only go away the next time you cold start JES2, otherwise it is always there. At startup (WARM, QUICK, or HOT) JES2 will produce a message saying that the parms are different from the last time it was started and now. If you update your parm deck, it will be okay. Nowadays most changes can be done through the $T command and will not go away unless you cold start. Some parms can be increased via a command but take a cold start to decrease. Lizette Miklos Szigetvari Wrote: Do we need a JES COLD start to changed some classes to WLM managed ? (according the book yes we need) -- Miklos Szigetvari -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?
Hi Thank you. Lizette Koehler wrote: When the manual says $T command or cold start, I use the $T command to make the change and then update the JES2 parms to reflect my change. That way it is permanent. It will only go away the next time you cold start JES2, otherwise it is always there. At startup (WARM, QUICK, or HOT) JES2 will produce a message saying that the parms are different from the last time it was started and now. If you update your parm deck, it will be okay. Nowadays most changes can be done through the $T command and will not go away unless you cold start. This is the point for me, enough to change once, and will remain till the cold start over IPL's etc . Some parms can be increased via a command but take a cold start to decrease. Lizette Miklos Szigetvari Wrote: Do we need a JES COLD start to changed some classes to WLM managed ? (according the book yes we need) -- Miklos Szigetvari -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
