Re: LU0, SNA, TCPIP issue

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Wawiorko
Radoslaw,

LU0 is a dependent LU so it must have a PU2 of some sort, PU2.0 or PU2.1, to 
support it. PU 2.1 is more strictly defined more strictly as a 2.1 Node or 
Control Point (CP). This means you will need an SNA stack somewhere in the 
configuration.

If the LU0 is in Windows, assumed from your current use of HIS, I reckon that 
means you will need an SNA stack in Windows if you are to keep the LU0 function 
unchanged.

There are configurations with a 2.1 Node and DLUR that give options for 
splitting the SNA functions, but I can't think of any that avoid have an SNA 
stack in Windows. For instance, Cisco SNASw has a CP (2.1 Node) and DLUR in a 
router supporting a downstream PU2.0 together with its dependent LUs. However, 
this still needs PU2.0 support in Windows.

Mike Wawiorko   
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W dniu 2012-04-06 21:54, Staller, Allan pisze:
 Lots of ways to go here.
 Upgrade CICS to use LU2. CICS also (IIRC) speaks TCP directly.
 TN3270/TN3270E
 Some emulator client on PC (Rumba, VISTA, PCOMM)

The goal is to get rid of HIS and not to make any revolution. It also means to 
stay with LU0 (application understand LU0).

BTW:The client application is NOT 3270 emulator, it is our own GUI based 
client, which talks to the windows server application which in turn talks to 
mainframe (via HIS).
I think it would be enough to change last layer of the application which talks 
to HIS and simply set up telnet server on host side.

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Re: LU0, SNA, TCPIP issue

2012-04-07 Thread Itschak Mugzach
have a look at the cics bridhe (also known as 3270 bride). The  bridge is
jus ta couple of glue exits that mimics the terminal and  works in several
protocols outside of cics.

ITschak

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 11:15 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote:

 W dniu 2012-04-06 21:54, Staller, Allan pisze:

  Lots of ways to go here.
 Upgrade CICS to use LU2. CICS also (IIRC) speaks TCP directly.
 TN3270/TN3270E
 Some emulator client on PC (Rumba, VISTA, PCOMM)


 The goal is to get rid of HIS and not to make any revolution. It also
 means to stay with LU0 (application understand LU0).

 BTW:The client application is NOT 3270 emulator, it is our own GUI based
 client, which talks to the windows server application which in turn talks
 to mainframe (via HIS).
 I think it would be enough to change last layer of the application which
 talks to HIS and simply set up telnet server on host side.


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 Lodz, Poland


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LU0, SNA, TCPIP issue

2012-04-06 Thread R.S.

Scenario:

CICS application-LU0 SNA (OSA Eth)HIS-Windows APP Server-WinClients

In other words there is a CICS based application, which is cuurently 
accessed via LU0 terminals. The application server (windows based) is 
connected to the host via HIS, formerly known as MS SNA Server. So, from 
the network point of view Windows machine is connected to the mainframe 
using SNA protocol.


We want to get rid of the HIS.

So, we would like to use LU0 and TCP/IP communication.

Note: we're aware of Enterprise Extender, but our goal is to get rid of 
HIS.


As far as now I just set up dedicated (for LU0) telnet server with his 
own port.




Any ideas, comments, prompts are welcome.


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Re: LU0, SNA, TCPIP issue

2012-04-06 Thread Staller, Allan
Lots of ways to go here.
Upgrade CICS to use LU2. CICS also (IIRC) speaks TCP directly.
TN3270/TN3270E
Some emulator client on PC (Rumba, VISTA, PCOMM)

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Re: LU0, SNA, TCPIP issue

2012-04-06 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2012-04-06 21:54, Staller, Allan pisze:

Lots of ways to go here.
Upgrade CICS to use LU2. CICS also (IIRC) speaks TCP directly.
TN3270/TN3270E
Some emulator client on PC (Rumba, VISTA, PCOMM)


The goal is to get rid of HIS and not to make any revolution. It also 
means to stay with LU0 (application understand LU0).


BTW:The client application is NOT 3270 emulator, it is our own GUI 
based client, which talks to the windows server application which in 
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I think it would be enough to change last layer of the application which 
talks to HIS and simply set up telnet server on host side.


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