Re: MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side

2011-09-01 Thread Rick Fochtman

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Have you tried using FBS vs. FB ?  This is for fixed block standard and 
recognizes the last block can be shorter and not a full block.

   


FB likewise permits the last block to be shorter.

 



Keep in mind one significant drawback: if the RECFM is FBS, an imbedded 
short block, for example in a MOD'ed file, will signal EOF to QSAM.


Rick

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Re: MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side

2011-08-31 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla

>>>Have you tried using FBS vs. FB ?  This is for fixed block standard and 
>>>recognizes the last block can be shorter and not a full block.
>> FB likewise permits the last block to be shorter.

>Surely FB permits *any* block to be short. It's FBS that requires that
all but the last be full size.

We are actually using Variable blocks.
I think the argument of the cache is valid but not after 24 hours.
Also, I noticed that the files in the NFS mount point when I am looking at them 
under TSO/ISPF are quite often locked (file in use).  I end up having to put a 
"B" for browse under 3.4 and keep on hitting enter until I can get into the 
file.  The file is not supposed to be in use on the Unix side so I don't know 
why I get the locks.

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Re: MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side

2011-08-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 31 August 2011 13:31, Paul Gilmartin  wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:31:44 +, Mingee, David wrote:
>
>>Have you tried using FBS vs. FB ?  This is for fixed block standard and 
>>recognizes the last block can be shorter and not a full block.
>>
> FB likewise permits the last block to be shorter.

Surely FB permits *any* block to be short. It's FBS that requires that
all but the last be full size.

Tony H.

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Re: MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side

2011-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:31:44 +, Mingee, David wrote:

>Have you tried using FBS vs. FB ?  This is for fixed block standard and 
>recognizes the last block can be shorter and not a full block.
> 
FB likewise permits the last block to be shorter.

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Re: MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side

2011-08-31 Thread Mingee, David
Have you tried using FBS vs. FB ?  This is for fixed block standard and 
recognizes the last block can be shorter and not a full block.




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On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:24:35 +, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:

>we have a an NFS mount point on a Sun Solaris that is being serviced by MVS 
>(zOS 1.11) NFS server.  when my customer dropped a file on the Sun's side NFS 
>mount point, it caused an I/O error.  When I compared what I see on the Sun 
>side under the mount point to what I see under TSO/ISPF, I can see that 1,131 
>records failed to get across out of about 77k records.  Yet, the original file 
>that was dropped into the NFS mount point are identical.  In other words, when 
>I do a diff between the original file and the one in the MVS Mount Point on 
>the Unix side, they are identical.  When I download the MVS file and do a diff 
>with what is supposed to be an identical copy in the Unix Mount point, they 
>are different.
>May be someone can enlight me with an explanation as to why the the Unix side 
>shows an identical copy of the original that was dropped in the mount point 
>but in the MVS side I see records in errors.
> 
MVSNFS does some aggressive caching.  It's possible that on the UNIX side 
you're seeing data that MVSNFS returns from cache; on the MVS side the actual 
file content.

My most frequent source of I/O errors is attempting to copy to a RECFM=FB data 
set a UNIX file containing trailing blanks.

-- gil


Regards,
>Uriel
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Re: MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side

2011-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:24:35 +, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:

>we have a an NFS mount point on a Sun Solaris that is being serviced by MVS 
>(zOS 1.11) NFS server.  when my customer dropped a file on the Sun's side NFS 
>mount point, it caused an I/O error.  When I compared what I see on the Sun 
>side under the mount point to what I see under TSO/ISPF, I can see that 1,131 
>records failed to get across out of about 77k records.  Yet, the original file 
>that was dropped into the NFS mount point are identical.  In other words, when 
>I do a diff between the original file and the one in the MVS Mount Point on 
>the Unix side, they are identical.  When I download the MVS file and do a diff 
>with what is supposed to be an identical copy in the Unix Mount point, they 
>are different.
>May be someone can enlight me with an explanation as to why the the Unix side 
>shows an identical copy of the original that was dropped in the mount point 
>but in the MVS side I see records in errors.
> 
MVSNFS does some aggressive caching.  It's possible that on the UNIX side
you're seeing data that MVSNFS returns from cache; on the MVS side the
actual file content.

My most frequent source of I/O errors is attempting to copy to a RECFM=FB
data set a UNIX file containing trailing blanks.

-- gil


Regards,
>Uriel
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MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side

2011-08-30 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla
we have a an NFS mount point on a Sun Solaris that is being serviced by MVS 
(zOS 1.11) NFS server.  when my customer dropped a file on the Sun's side NFS 
mount point, it caused an I/O error.  When I compared what I see on the Sun 
side under the mount point to what I see under TSO/ISPF, I can see that 1,131 
records failed to get across out of about 77k records.  Yet, the original file 
that was dropped into the NFS mount point are identical.  In other words, when 
I do a diff between the original file and the one in the MVS Mount Point on the 
Unix side, they are identical.  When I download the MVS file and do a diff with 
what is supposed to be an identical copy in the Unix Mount point, they are 
different.
May be someone can enlight me with an explanation as to why the the Unix side 
shows an identical copy of the original that was dropped in the mount point but 
in the MVS side I see records in errors.
Regards,
Uriel

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