Re: Microsoft Claims It All
I'd rather see M$ get slapped down BIG TIME on this one. How will they ever prove We had it first against a system whose hstory predates M$ ??? Thomas Kern wrote: Or management might see that MS really does know the only way to use computers and finally get rid of all of the dinosaurs. Good luck on your interview. /Tom Kern On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:29:28 -0500, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This almost sounds like in 1999 when someone claimed a patent on a date conversion routine, and wanted to charge anyone who was converting dates in their Y2K efforts. I'm sure MS has very good lawyers working on this, but how are you going to sue millions of LInux users. The people that work on the Linux Kernel don't profit on any of it, although IBM and many of the other software companies make software for Linux that they sell for profit. This should be very interesting. If on the off chance that MS would win, how would that affect z/OS users? I can see that it might help. People might get pissed off enough at MS, and convert to a mainframe. (Oh well, its a good thought). I'm off to a job interview, and then I have to clean my Dodgeville house, so I won't be reading the list till tomorrow evening. Eric Bielefeld Milwaukee, Wisconsin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Microsoft Claims It All
Microsoft has dropped the other shoe. It claims that Linux infringes
on 235 of its patents and it wants payment:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/index.htm
My personal theory is that they have read the paper by open-source
philosophers Eric Raymond and Rob Landley ('World Domination 201')
which maintains that we are at the start of 64-bit operating systems
and that is a 'tipping point'. The new standard for future decades
will be set by either Microsoft or Apple or Linux ... So, failing any
kind of technical excellence, all Microsoft has to do is keep the FUD
and litigation going for the next five or ten years.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html
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Re: Microsoft Claims It All
This almost sounds like in 1999 when someone claimed a patent on a date
conversion routine, and wanted to charge anyone who was converting dates
in their Y2K efforts. I'm sure MS has very good lawyers working on this, but
how are you going to sue millions of LInux users. The people that work on the
Linux Kernel don't profit on any of it, although IBM and many of the other
software companies make software for Linux that they sell for profit. This
should be very interesting.
If on the off chance that MS would win, how would that affect z/OS users? I
can see that it might help. People might get pissed off enough at MS, and
convert to a mainframe. (Oh well, its a good thought).
I'm off to a job interview, and then I have to clean my Dodgeville house, so I
won't be reading the list till tomorrow evening.
Eric Bielefeld
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:15:28 -0400, Warner Mach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Microsoft has dropped the other shoe. It claims that Linux infringes
on 235 of its patents and it wants payment:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/10003
3867/index.htm
My personal theory is that they have read the paper by open-source
philosophers Eric Raymond and Rob Landley ('World Domination 201')
which maintains that we are at the start of 64-bit operating systems
and that is a 'tipping point'. The new standard for future decades
will be set by either Microsoft or Apple or Linux ... So, failing any
kind of technical excellence, all Microsoft has to do is keep the FUD
and litigation going for the next five or ten years.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-
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Re: Microsoft Claims It All
Or management might see that MS really does know the only way to use computers and finally get rid of all of the dinosaurs. Good luck on your interview. /Tom Kern On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:29:28 -0500, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This almost sounds like in 1999 when someone claimed a patent on a date conversion routine, and wanted to charge anyone who was converting dates in their Y2K efforts. I'm sure MS has very good lawyers working on this, but how are you going to sue millions of LInux users. The people that work on the Linux Kernel don't profit on any of it, although IBM and many of the other software companies make software for Linux that they sell for profit. This should be very interesting. If on the off chance that MS would win, how would that affect z/OS users? I can see that it might help. People might get pissed off enough at MS, and convert to a mainframe. (Oh well, its a good thought). I'm off to a job interview, and then I have to clean my Dodgeville house, so I won't be reading the list till tomorrow evening. Eric Bielefeld Milwaukee, Wisconsin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Microsoft Claims It All
Groklaw's take on it (my favorite blog) http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070513234519615 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Microsoft Claims It All
snip Or management might see that MS really does know the only way to use computers and finally get rid of all of the dinosaurs. /snip Or even boot Microsnot(not a typo) out and run Linux on desktops/servers (and keep the dinosaurs) G -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Happy Feet (was: Microsoft Claims It All)
On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:29:28 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: If on the off chance that MS would win, how would that affect z/OS users? I can see that it might help. People might get pissed off enough at MS, and convert to a mainframe. (Oh well, its a good thought). Or, companies faced with the specter of such MS predation might find incentive to relocate operations to countries with more rational laws concerning software intellectual assets. In a word, offshore. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Happy Feet (was: Microsoft Claims It All)
On May 14, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Or, companies faced with the specter of such MS predation might find incentive to relocate operations to countries with more rational laws concerning software intellectual assets. In a word, offshore. Scary thought gil, IBM is moving to INDIA so they are really afraid of MS? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Microsoft Claims It All
On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:43:54 -0500, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Or management might see that MS really does know the only way to use computers and finally get rid of all of the dinosaurs. /snip Or even boot Microsnot(not a typo) out and run Linux on desktops/servers (and keep the dinosaurs) G And of course there is the older patent (1998) by M$, as described in http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29130 . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
