Re: migrating an in-house MF tool

2011-08-08 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi,

I was able to migrate it successfully. Thanks all for your valuable
suggestion.

Regards,
Jags

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 8:13 AM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks I will definetly take your Inputs and read accordingly.


 On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 8:03 AM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.comwrote:

 The problem is not 1) that you post too often or 2) that you do not do
 enough manual readinmg before you post.  It is that you do not provide
 enough circumstantial detail to enable us to be really helpful.

 Try describing your problems in [much] greater circumstantial detail.  We
 all know how to discard irrelevant detail, and your instinct for brevity
 makes it unlikely that you will be prolix.

 John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA
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Re: Migrating a in house MF tool

2011-08-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi,

Sorry for not providing much information. it is not a version dependent one.
I am trying to do a dump and restore of the entire tool dataset  MFCOE.** to
the V1.12. Concatenate the Required REXX to the SYSEXEC.

Regards,
Jags

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com
 wrote:

 You just love asking questions without providing any details.

 Unless the tool has some version dependent code, you should perform a
 complete installation of the tool on the 1.12 system, duplicating all the
 steps that were used to install it originally on the 1.6 system.  Hopefully,
 the previously installation is well documented and you saved all the
 necessary datasets and files.

 If there are any version dependencies, now would be good time to document
 them.  And maybe build a migration manual for the next time.

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  Subject: Migrating a in house MF tool
  
  Hi,
 
  We recently decommissioned a Z/OS 1.6 server. There was a requirement
 that
  a
  tool which was developed under 1.6 needs to be migrated to the new LPAR
  Z/OS
  1.12. Could you please guide me the required steps that needs to taken to
  migrate the entire tool and invoke those panels in 1.12 version.

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Re: Migrating a in house MF tool

2011-08-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Hi,

We recently decommissioned a Z/OS 1.6 server. There was a requirement that
a
tool which was developed under 1.6 needs to be migrated to the new LPAR
Z/OS
1.12. Could you please guide me the required steps that needs to taken to
migrate the entire tool and invoke those panels in 1.12 version.

Regards,
Jags

Jags,

In house tools need to be documented by your shop as to how things are
hooked up.  

However, if you did a DFDSS dump, a DFDSS restore should work.  I do not
know of any problems between z/OS V1.6 Dump and a z/OS V1.12 Restore.

Though I probably would have used TSO XMIT or an IEBCOPY Unload and then
used the correct restore process under z/OS V1.12.

Lizette

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Re: Migrating a in house MF tool

2011-08-06 Thread Don Imbriale
If you know all the pieces that make up the tool and you have successfully
identified them and successfully transported them to the new system, it's
time to build the tool on the new system.

If you have build instructions from the old system, those instructions may
also work on the new system.

If you do not have build instructions, you will have to reverse engineer the
tool on the old system to create build instructions.

Since this seems to be an internally-developed tool, only you or someone in
your shop can do this.

Have you already done any of this analysis?  You really need to do some work
up-front before posting a question.  And when you do post a question you
need to provide specific details, such as error messages, if something is
not working as expected.

- Don Imbriale

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:13 AM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Sorry for not providing much information. it is not a version dependent
 one.
 I am trying to do a dump and restore of the entire tool dataset  MFCOE.**
 to
 the V1.12. Concatenate the Required REXX to the SYSEXEC.

 Regards,
 Jags

 On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Schwarz, Barry A 
 barry.a.schw...@boeing.com
  wrote:

  You just love asking questions without providing any details.
 
  Unless the tool has some version dependent code, you should perform a
  complete installation of the tool on the 1.12 system, duplicating all the
  steps that were used to install it originally on the 1.6 system.
  Hopefully,
  the previously installation is well documented and you saved all the
  necessary datasets and files.
 
  If there are any version dependencies, now would be good time to document
  them.  And maybe build a migration manual for the next time.
 
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   Behalf Of jagadishan perumal
   Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 6:13 PM
   To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
   Subject: Migrating a in house MF tool
   
   Hi,
  
   We recently decommissioned a Z/OS 1.6 server. There was a requirement
  that
   a
   tool which was developed under 1.6 needs to be migrated to the new LPAR
   Z/OS
   1.12. Could you please guide me the required steps that needs to taken
 to
   migrate the entire tool and invoke those panels in 1.12 version.
 


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Re: Migrating a in house MF tool

2011-08-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Sure... I will try doing it and search manuals incase of any difficulties..
Post if i need the experts comment.

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you know all the pieces that make up the tool and you have successfully
 identified them and successfully transported them to the new system, it's
 time to build the tool on the new system.

 If you have build instructions from the old system, those instructions may
 also work on the new system.

 If you do not have build instructions, you will have to reverse engineer
 the
 tool on the old system to create build instructions.

 Since this seems to be an internally-developed tool, only you or someone in
 your shop can do this.

 Have you already done any of this analysis?  You really need to do some
 work
 up-front before posting a question.  And when you do post a question you
 need to provide specific details, such as error messages, if something is
 not working as expected.

 - Don Imbriale

 On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:13 AM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Sorry for not providing much information. it is not a version dependent
  one.
  I am trying to do a dump and restore of the entire tool dataset  MFCOE.**
  to
  the V1.12. Concatenate the Required REXX to the SYSEXEC.
 
  Regards,
  Jags
 
  On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Schwarz, Barry A 
  barry.a.schw...@boeing.com
   wrote:
 
   You just love asking questions without providing any details.
  
   Unless the tool has some version dependent code, you should perform a
   complete installation of the tool on the 1.12 system, duplicating all
 the
   steps that were used to install it originally on the 1.6 system.
   Hopefully,
   the previously installation is well documented and you saved all the
   necessary datasets and files.
  
   If there are any version dependencies, now would be good time to
 document
   them.  And maybe build a migration manual for the next time.
  
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of jagadishan perumal
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 6:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Migrating a in house MF tool

Hi,
   
We recently decommissioned a Z/OS 1.6 server. There was a requirement
   that
a
tool which was developed under 1.6 needs to be migrated to the new
 LPAR
Z/OS
1.12. Could you please guide me the required steps that needs to
 taken
  to
migrate the entire tool and invoke those panels in 1.12 version.
  
 

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migrating an in-house MF tool

2011-08-06 Thread john gilmore
The problem is not 1) that you post too often or 2) that you do not do enough 
manual readinmg before you post.  It is that you do not provide enough 
circumstantial detail to enable us to be really helpful.
 
Try describing your problems in [much] greater circumstantial detail.  We all 
know how to discard irrelevant detail, and your instinct for brevity makes it 
unlikely that you will be prolix.  
 
John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA 
  
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Re: migrating an in-house MF tool

2011-08-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Thanks I will definetly take your Inputs and read accordingly.

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 8:03 AM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com wrote:

 The problem is not 1) that you post too often or 2) that you do not do
 enough manual readinmg before you post.  It is that you do not provide
 enough circumstantial detail to enable us to be really helpful.

 Try describing your problems in [much] greater circumstantial detail.  We
 all know how to discard irrelevant detail, and your instinct for brevity
 makes it unlikely that you will be prolix.

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Migrating a in house MF tool

2011-08-05 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi,

We recently decommissioned a Z/OS 1.6 server. There was a requirement that a
tool which was developed under 1.6 needs to be migrated to the new LPAR Z/OS
1.12. Could you please guide me the required steps that needs to taken to
migrate the entire tool and invoke those panels in 1.12 version.

Regards,
Jags

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Re: Migrating a in house MF tool

2011-08-05 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
You just love asking questions without providing any details.

Unless the tool has some version dependent code, you should perform a complete 
installation of the tool on the 1.12 system, duplicating all the steps that 
were used to install it originally on the 1.6 system.  Hopefully, the 
previously installation is well documented and you saved all the necessary 
datasets and files.

If there are any version dependencies, now would be good time to document them. 
 And maybe build a migration manual for the next time.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of jagadishan perumal
 Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 6:13 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Migrating a in house MF tool

 Hi,

 We recently decommissioned a Z/OS 1.6 server. There was a requirement that
 a
 tool which was developed under 1.6 needs to be migrated to the new LPAR
 Z/OS
 1.12. Could you please guide me the required steps that needs to taken to
 migrate the entire tool and invoke those panels in 1.12 version.

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