Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator
For another point of view... http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100408153953613 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator
When IBM announced the patent pledge, they specifically reserved the right to defend itself from attack: IBM has no intention of asserting its patent portfolio against the Linux kernel, unless of course we are forced to defend ourselves, said Nick Donofrio, senior vice president for technology and manufacturing, drawing applause in a speech at the LinuxWorld Conference and Expo. And in the TurboHercules story, who is suing whom? It's not IBM. The complaint against IBM was filed with the EU Commission by TurboHercules. At that exact moment, did they not take themselves out from under the patent pledge's safety umbrella? Lou On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/04/ibm-breaks-oss-patent-promise-targets-mainframe-emulator.ars -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/04/ibm-breaks-oss-patent-pr omise-targets-mainframe-emulator.ars SNIP I would still like to know, is IBM charging for its patents as part of the licensing cost of its SCPs, or is it charging in the cost of the hardware, or both. That question was quashed when IBM acquired PSI. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator
Counter points. quoteWhy I Believe IBM is Free to Sue The Pants Off TurboHercules/quote http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100408153953613 quoteThe recent attacks on IBM patent use by some in the open-source community are way out of line./quote http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/7034/1/ quoteLinux Foundation say breathe easy on IBM patents/quote http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Foundation-say-breathe-easy-on-IBM-patents-972747.html quoteIBM's Open Source Patent Pledge /quote http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/299092-ibms-open-source-patent-pledge -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator
This story becomes quite interesting Up to now when some company was trying to enter this market they could buy and sell each other ( we remember PSI or T3 ) But this time what they are talking about a breach of patent by a Q public license software named Hercules. I am definitely no lawyer but technically Turbohercules is only using this Open Source stuff ( well not exactly open source i think) that has been around for a few years without any complain. I do not see how IBM can buy a Q Public License emulator because the fact that it is public means it is not for sale ( well i guess ) . So where will they go from now ? I am puzzled There was another interesting counter article here worried by other virtualisation patent in other emulation software : http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2891amp;blogid=14 Bruno Sugliani zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:52:48 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Counter points. quoteWhy I Believe IBM is Free to Sue The Pants Off TurboHercules/quote http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100408153953613 quoteThe recent attacks on IBM patent use by some in the open-source community are way out of line./quote http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/7034/1/ quoteLinux Foundation say breathe easy on IBM patents/quote http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Foundation-say-breathe-easy-on-IBM-patents-972747.html quoteIBM's Open Source Patent Pledge /quote http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/299092-ibms-open-source-patent-pledge -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator
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