Re: PDF vs. Bookie

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 04/23/2012
   at 01:13 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler  said:

>a couple recent posts mentioning ibm's "Information Center" in thread
>about "user-friendly"

Which often turns out to be not user-friendly but user fiendly.

Sometimes I call such software a "Molly Malone", as in "She died of a
faever, from which none could save her."
 
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Re: PDF vs. Bookie

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

mitchd...@gmail.com (Dana Mitchell) writes:
> And another disparaging remark against IBMs 'Information Center': I'm
> trying to use two different levels for IBM i this morning, both of
> them are stuck on 'indexing'  they then eventually fail.
> Information center indeed!

a couple recent posts mentioning ibm's "Information Center" in thread
about "user-friendly"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#11 Who originated the phrase 
"user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#12 Who originated the phrase 
"user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#27 From "Who originated the phrase 
user-friendly" thread

in the early 80s, it was a bunch of vm/4341s going into branch offices
for sales & marketing (frequently identified with "IC" suffix in their
internal network node-name) ... augmenting the online vm/hone
sales&marketing support systems ... including a couple old emails
http://www.garlic.com/2012.html#email810921
http://www.garlic.com/2012.html#email820826
http://www.garlic.com/2012.html#email820827

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Re: PDF vs. Bookie (was: ADATA Exit)

[Staller, Allan]

As a general rule, I have found the "NEXT GENERATION" internet tools to
be a step backwards from their predecessors.
Witness the IBM Support Portal, Internet Library, )

In functionality, data accuracy and performance.


And another disparaging remark against IBMs 'Information Center':   I'm
trying to use two different levels for IBM i  this morning,  both of
them are stuck on 'indexing'  they then eventually fail.
Information center indeed!


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Re: PDF vs. Bookie (was: ADATA Exit)

[Dana Mitchell]

And another disparaging remark against IBMs 'Information Center':   I'm trying 
to use two different levels for IBM i  this morning,  both of them are stuck on 
'indexing'  they then eventually fail.  Information center indeed!

Dana

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PDF vs. Bookie (was: ADATA Exit)

[Paul Gilmartin]

On 2012-04-20 11:53, Martin Truebner wrote in ASSEMBLER-LIST:


Did you ever try to copy code from a PDF? As and idea: a funny char
aside of the space (in col 1) and an other one in col 10 and col 16
would make it a easy to rebuild source from a (PDF-)printed manual.
  

1) There's another good reason here to regret IBM's SoD to
   abandon Bookie in favor of PDF.

1a) I did this many years ago with, IIRC, the very same example
   in Bookie format.  Wasn't too bad.  Strip the gutters and
   filter out the page headers.

1b) I like to distribute README files containing code examples
   as HTML with the code between  and .  Copy the
   HTML; edit out the (minimal) markup and go.

2) It may depend on your PDF viewer.  Some are worse than others
   (not to call the others better).  Many trash the indention.


gil

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