Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-08 Thread Vern Mascall
Forgive my ignorance, but we're not at 1.9 and I would like to browse an
ASCII file, so could you elucidate on the following:

I think the display by CCSID (or acronyms like UTF8 / ASCII) has been around
since z/OS 1.7.

Cheers,
Vern.

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-08 Thread Vern Mascall
We're not at 1.9, but we'd like to browse ASCII files.
Forgive my ignorance, but could you elucidate on the following comment:

In case the OP isn't at 1.9, I think the display by CCSID (or acronyms like
UTF8 / ASCII) has been around since z/OS 1.7.

Cheers,
Vern.

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:56:25 -0500, Vern Mascall
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Forgive my ignorance, but we're not at 1.9 and I would like to browse an
ASCII file, so could you elucidate on the following:

I think the display by CCSID (or acronyms like UTF8 / ASCII) has been around
since z/OS 1.7.



Use ISPF help for the display command.  But briefly, while browsing the
file you can type things like DISPLAY ASCII  or DISPLAY UTF8.   You 
reset it by DISPLAY RESET.

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-08 Thread Vern Mascall
Beautiful, works a treat. 
Thanks very much.

Cheers,
Vern.

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-05 Thread Greg Price
Neal Eckhardt wrote:
 I want to browse a UNIX file in ISPF and have the characters display as 
 ASCII characters, not EBCDIC. I thought I had done this before about half 
 a decade ago, but I can't seem to find out how I did this. What am I 
 missing, or is my memory failing me? I'm usually pretty good remembering 
 something  when I see something and say COOL to myself.

 I can browse the file in the ISPF shell, it's the translation part I'm 
 missing.

 Neal

Well, REVIEW has had ASCII browsing for 21 years - were you thinking of that?

Probably not.:-D

Admittedly, UNIX file browsing - including ASCII - was only added about 8
years ago, and ISPF app-ness only 5 years ago.  No doubt, ISPF does it
better now, but still, the price was right...
:)

Now all we need is support for ZIP archives.

GP

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:30:55 +1000, Greg Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



Now all we need is support for ZIP archives.


We or Review?  ;-)  We already have it with Java - which is free.

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:33:39 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:30:55 +1000, Greg Price wrote:

Now all we need is support for ZIP archives.

We or Review?  ;-)  We already have it with Java - which is free.

Do you mean that ISPF can browse ZIP archives, their directories and
the files they contain, without a whole buncha RYO?

I suspect that is what Greg was wishing for.  Kinda like IZArc for
ISPF:

http://www.izarc.org/screens.html

CBT Tape, perhaps?

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:35:35 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:33:39 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:30:55 +1000, Greg Price wrote:

Now all we need is support for ZIP archives.

We or Review?  ;-)  We already have it with Java - which is free.

Do you mean that ISPF can browse ZIP archives, their directories and
the files they contain, without a whole buncha RYO?

I suspect that is what Greg was wishing for. 

Probably.   But if you access the file system with NFS or SMB, you
can certainly open the archive with winzip or whatever in your
workstation.

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-05 Thread Greg Price
Mark Zelden wrote:
 On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:30:55 +1000, Greg Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 Now all we need is support for ZIP archives.

 
 We or Review?  ;-)  We already have it with Java - which is free.


Sorry - I wasn't clear.  I meant the ISPF Browse (nice) and ISPF Edit
(even nicer) support for processing files within a ZIP archive.  But,
probably no business case

You can already browse zipped data with REVIEW (plus util) online,
and copy some or all unzipped records to a data set.  That's free also.
:)

Cheers,
Greg

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-04 Thread Mark Jacobs
Neal Eckhardt wrote:
 I want to browse a UNIX file in ISPF and have the characters display as 
 ASCII characters, not EBCDIC. I thought I had done this before about half 
 a decade ago, but I can't seem to find out how I did this. What am I 
 missing, or is my memory failing me? I'm usually pretty good remembering 
 something  when I see something and say COOL to myself.

 I can browse the file in the ISPF shell, it's the translation part I'm 
 missing.

 Neal

   
Under zOS 1.9 a DIS ASCII command on the ISPF BROWSE command line should
work if you have UNICODE active.

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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-04 Thread Mark Zelden
Neal Eckhardt wrote:
 I want to browse a UNIX file in ISPF and have the characters display as
 ASCII characters, not EBCDIC. I thought I had done this before about half
 a decade ago, but I can't seem to find out how I did this. What am I
 missing, or is my memory failing me? I'm usually pretty good remembering
 something  when I see something and say COOL to myself.

 I can browse the file in the ISPF shell, it's the translation part I'm
 missing.

 Neal



On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:37:24 -0400, Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Under zOS 1.9 a DIS ASCII command on the ISPF BROWSE command line should
work if you have UNICODE active.




On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:36:47 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In VIEW or EDIT, type the SOURCE ASCII command. To return to EBCDIC
mode, type RESET SOURCE.


In case the OP isn't at 1.9, I think the display by CCSID (or acronyms like
UTF8 / ASCII) has been around since z/OS 1.7.

Mark
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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-04 Thread Kirk Wolf
If you are using z/OS prior to 1.9, you can use some handy shell scripts
that we built for handling the conversion.
Included in these is aobrowse, which can be used from an OMVS session.

See the updated atools package download from:
http://dovetail.com/downloads/jzos/index.html

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Neal Eckhardt wrote:
  I want to browse a UNIX file in ISPF and have the characters display as
  ASCII characters, not EBCDIC. I thought I had done this before about
 half
  a decade ago, but I can't seem to find out how I did this. What am I
  missing, or is my memory failing me? I'm usually pretty good remembering
  something  when I see something and say COOL to myself.
 
  I can browse the file in the ISPF shell, it's the translation part I'm
  missing.
 
  Neal
 


 On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:37:24 -0400, Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Under zOS 1.9 a DIS ASCII command on the ISPF BROWSE command line should
 work if you have UNICODE active.
 



 On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:36:47 -0700, Edward Jaffe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In VIEW or EDIT, type the SOURCE ASCII command. To return to EBCDIC
 mode, type RESET SOURCE.
 

 In case the OP isn't at 1.9, I think the display by CCSID (or acronyms like
 UTF8 / ASCII) has been around since z/OS 1.7.

 Mark
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Re: Browsing an ASCII file

2008-09-04 Thread Roger Lowe
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:33:00 -0400, Neal Eckhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I want to browse a UNIX file in ISPF and have the characters display as
ASCII characters, not EBCDIC. 

Neal,
   If you are at z/OS 1.9, use ISPF Option 3.17 (UDLIST) and select
EDIT ASCII data

Roger

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