Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread John Laubenheimer
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0600, Raquel Calvo Olmos 
raquel_ca...@everis-outsourcing.com wrote:

Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems.

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date?

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for
exemple, 2010.

Thanks in advanced.

Regards,
Raquel Calvo.

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This was done on a regular basis about 10 years (or so) ago, when everybody 
was testing for Y2K.

What you are proposing is not a good idea.  Various system components may 
not react well when the clock is turned back.

There were many date and time testing packages available for Y2K testing ... 
HOURGLASS 2000, from a company canned MAINWARE, was just one of these.  
I'm sure that a few might still be available.  You can check the internet 
(google) for their web site.  Else, search on Y2K TESTING MAINFRAME for 
other related software packages.

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Brian Peterson
For what it's worthHourglass is now an IBM product.

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/hourglass/

Brian

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:06:28 -0600, John Laubenheimer wrote:
(snip)
There were many date and time testing packages available for Y2K testing ...
HOURGLASS 2000, from a company canned MAINWARE, was just one of these.
I'm sure that a few might still be available.  You can check the internet
(google) for their web site.  Else, search on Y2K TESTING MAINFRAME for
other related software packages.

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:06:28 -0600, John Laubenheimer
jlaubenhei...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0600, Raquel Calvo Olmos
raquel_ca...@everis-outsourcing.com wrote:

Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems.

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date?

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for
exemple, 2010.

Thanks in advanced.

Regards,
Raquel Calvo.

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This was done on a regular basis about 10 years (or so) ago, when everybody
was testing for Y2K.

What you are proposing is not a good idea.  Various system components may
not react well when the clock is turned back.

There were many date and time testing packages available for Y2K testing ...
HOURGLASS 2000, from a company canned MAINWARE, was just one of these.
I'm sure that a few might still be available.  You can check the internet
(google) for their web site.  Else, search on Y2K TESTING MAINFRAME for
other related software packages.


I though HourGlass was from Princeton Softech.  Anyway, IBM owns it now.

Mark
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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread John Laubenheimer
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:08:09 -0600, Mark Zelden 
mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote:

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:06:28 -0600, John Laubenheimer
jlaubenhei...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0600, Raquel Calvo Olmos
raquel_ca...@everis-outsourcing.com wrote:

Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems.

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date?

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for
exemple, 2010.

Thanks in advanced.

Regards,
Raquel Calvo.

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This was done on a regular basis about 10 years (or so) ago, when 
everybody
was testing for Y2K.

What you are proposing is not a good idea.  Various system components may
not react well when the clock is turned back.

There were many date and time testing packages available for Y2K 
testing ...
HOURGLASS 2000, from a company canned MAINWARE, was just one of 
these.
I'm sure that a few might still be available.  You can check the internet
(google) for their web site.  Else, search on Y2K TESTING MAINFRAME for
other related software packages.


I though HourGlass was from Princeton Softech.  Anyway, IBM owns it now.

Mark
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Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com
z/OS Systems Programming expert at 
http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/
Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html

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I just went into the SAMPLIB dataset ... it said MAINWARE there.  Oh well. 
chained acquisitions!  I guess you can't tell who owns something anymore 
without a scorecard.

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Ken Porowski
Would this be for the CA-Top Secret temporary dataset name issue?  

Ken Porowski
VP Mainframe Administration
CIT Group
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Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for
exemple, 2010. 

Thanks in advanced. 

Regards,
Raquel Calvo.  

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Change system date
 
 Hi there,
 
 We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 
 
 Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 
 
 We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other 
 year, for 
 exemple, 2010. 
 
 Thanks in advanced. 
 
 Regards,
 Raquel Calvo.  

You can do this in z/VSE. But there isn't such a thing in z/OS. During Y2K, 
there were products which could do this. I don't know if they are still 
available.

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Schumacher, Otto
There are products like CA-date and others that set the date for certain 
jobs/users. These were used for Y2K but are applicable for application year-end 
testing. 

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Raquel Calvo Olmos
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:53 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Change system date
 
 Hi there,
 
 We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 
 
 Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 
 
 We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, 
 for exemple, 2010.
 
 Thanks in advanced. 
 
 Regards,
 Raquel Calvo.  

You can do this in z/VSE. But there isn't such a thing in z/OS. During Y2K, 
there were products which could do this. I don't know if they are still 
available.

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IT

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread John Hamman
Compuware has a product called Xpediter/Xchange that allows you to run jobs 
with a date either in the future or in the past.

HTH
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Subject: Change system date

Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for 
exemple, 2010. 

Thanks in advanced. 

Regards,
Raquel Calvo.  

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Raquel, 



We bought TicToc from ISOGON for Y2K testing and kept it.  It was bought by IBM 
several years ago and renamed to IBM Application Time Facility for z/OS.  We 
use it often.  It sets a future or past virtual date for the application to 
test with and can be used with batch or online applications. The applications 
folks really like it.  I just checked the product catalog on ShopzSeries.  It 
is still available. 



HTH, 



Linda Mooney 


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Subject: Change system date 

Hi there, 

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for 
exemple, 2010. 

Thanks in advanced. 

Regards, 
Raquel Calvo.   

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