Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
Sorry gang. I got pulled away on other fires and forgot to update what happened. As somnone had suggested, I went to the HSM Storage Administration Guide, Chapter 5.1.9 - Case 9. Reestablish Access to Previously Deleted Mugrated Data Sets (No Backup Exists, ML2 Only) at http://tinyurl.com/m5weqj And it provided instructions and examples to do this. Dunno why I didn't see it before. Since I was recovering a flat file PDS (VSAM is a bit more complicated) all I essentially had to do was - define the non-vsam file to my catalog with a volser of MIGRAT - Be sure the HSM assigned bit was turned on - recall the data set Piece of cake. Thanks to everyone for your help getting me on track. Howard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
I think you use RECOVER rather than RECALL when it is not cataloged. Lizette Hello everyone. I have some datasets on ML2 that have long since been uncataloged that I need to recall. I've loked for ways to either recatalog then recall them or recall and recatalog them, but no luckthere yet. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
If you tried to recat them to MIGRAT2 and they don't recall, then you'll need to check the MCDS to see if HSM knows about them- probably not. If you know the tape that they were migrated to and it hasn't been recycled you could build a MCDS entry but you'll have to want this data very badly. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) Howard Whitehead hwhiteh...@statesman.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 06/03/2009 12:23 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject HSM: Recall uncataloged data set Hello everyone. I have some datasets on ML2 that have long since been uncataloged that I need to recall. I've loked for ways to either recatalog then recall them or recall and recatalog them, but no luckthere yet. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:12:12 -0500, Howard Whitehead hwhiteh...@statesman.com wrote: Hello everyone. I have some datasets on ML2 that have long since been uncataloged that I need to recall. I've loked for ways to either recatalog then recall them or recall and recatalog them, but no luckthere yet. Thanks. Consider the TSO HLIST BCDS command followed by an HRECOVER, if still around. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
I didn't know you COULD recat to MIGRAT2. Could I trouble you for some sample code for that to save me some time? I tried the RECOVER command but I got an ARC1128 BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST. Thanks all. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
If you tried to recat them to MIGRAT2 and they don't recall, then you'll need to check the MCDS to see if HSM knows about them- probably not. If you know the tape that they were migrated to and it hasn't been recycled you could build a MCDS entry but you'll have to want this data very badly. Jack Kelly In the past when I did need it back very badly and the HSM ML1 copy was the only viable copy was to restore a backup copy of the MCDS from the appropriate timeframe on a TECH LPAR that I could isolate, bring HSM up on that LPAR pointing to that restored copy of the MCDS, and then recall the dataset. It worked but you for sure better understand the relationships of your systems. dd keller ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS data is good, it's just that the data set has been uncataloged for a very long time so HSM on't allow the recall. I'm trying to research recating to MIGRAT2 but so far I'm strikin' out. Thanks, Howard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
Howard, I am not sure how you would catalog a volser of MIGRAT2 which is 7 chars. The VSAM Define seems to only allow for 6 chars. Maybe somebody on the list can figure this out. Lizette The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS data is good, it's just that the data set has been uncataloged for a very long time so HSM on't allow the recall. I'm trying to research recating to MIGRAT2 but so far I'm strikin' out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
See my previous post: MIGRAT/MIGRAT2 is a display convention. Catalog to
volser MIGRAT. HSM will figure it out.
DEF NVSAM(NAME('original.dsn') DEVT(3390) VOL(MIGRAT))
Then issue hrecall
snip
The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS
data is
good, it's just that the data set has been uncataloged for a very long
time
so HSM on't allow the recall. I'm trying to research recating to
MIGRAT2
but so far I'm strikin' out.
/snip
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Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
I am not sure how you would catalog a volser of MIGRAT2 which is 7 chars. The VSAM Define seems to only allow for 6 chars. That's because the OS only allows 6 chars for a volser (tape or disk). Maybe somebody on the list can figure this out. It's not a VSAM restriction, unless you call an OS restriction also a VSAM restriction. IDCAMS is just being consistent with z/OS. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
MIGRAT2 is code speak for catalogued to volser MIGRAT on a TAPE unit as opposed to a DASD unit. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Whitehead Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS data is good, it's just that the data set has been uncataloged for a very long time so HSM on't allow the recall. I'm trying to research recating to MIGRAT2 but so far I'm strikin' out. Thanks, Howard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
Thanks for the info. I had missed it before. I also found something in the HSM Stg Admin Guide 5.1.9 Case 9...reestablish access to Previously Deleted Migrated Data Sets (No Backup Exists, ML2 Only). You nd this may have me on the right track. I'll update with what happens. Thanks all! Howard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
snip I am not sure how you would catalog a volser of MIGRAT2 which is 7 chars unsnip That was my fault. You only catalog the migrat, I put the migrat2 to indicate it was ml2 BUT it's only a display. Howard seems sure that the file exists on ML2 and I really hope that he knows that for sure before going any further because like Darth indicated recreating a MCDS entry is do'able but Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
For MIGRAT2, wouldn't you specify DEVT() having as the device
type used for HSM ML2 media rather than specifying 3390?
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Subject: Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
See my previous post: MIGRAT/MIGRAT2 is a display convention. Catalog to
volser MIGRAT. HSM will figure it out.
DEF NVSAM(NAME('original.dsn') DEVT(3390) VOL(MIGRAT))
Then issue hrecall
snip
The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS
data is good, it's just that the data set has been uncataloged for a
very long time so HSM on't allow the recall. I'm trying to research
recating to
MIGRAT2
but so far I'm strikin' out.
/snip
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Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
AFAIK either will work. snip For MIGRAT2, wouldn't you specify DEVT() having as the device type used for HSM ML2 media rather than specifying 3390? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
MIGRAT2 is code speak for catalogued to volser MIGRAT on a TAPE unit as
opposed to a DASD unit.
Unfortunately, as you saw from the responses, not all of us speak the same
code.
A more specific response may have been more helpful (I mean that in the nicest
possible way).
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Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
It is true that MIGRAT2 can also be on as DASD device.
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MIGRAT2 is code speak for catalogued to volser MIGRAT on a TAPE unit
as opposed to a DASD unit.
Unfortunately, as you saw from the responses, not all of us speak the
same code.
A more specific response may have been more helpful (I mean that in the
nicest possible way).
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Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set
It is true that MIGRAT2 can also be on as DASD device. Yes, but. MIGRAT2, by itself, is meaningless since volsers can only be 6 bytes long. A detailed description would have helped. PS: The first shop that I worked with HSM in had ML1 ML2 both on disk. And, that was back when DISK was expensive (3380-D 3380-E). ML2 was on the paging volumes, against my recommendations, because of cost vs performance issues. Circa 1984. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
