SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Group,
Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.

 Please help me to find any book, which describe about
this. Thanks in advance.


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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread Walter Marguccio
 Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,

 as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.

Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
dataset.


Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany


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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread McKown, John
Read here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/gimusr42/A.6.10


but it's basically allocate a second (or third or ...) PDS dataset and allocate 
it to SMPPTS1, up to SMPPTS99, in numeric order.

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 Subject: SMPPTS Dataset
 
 Hello Group,
 Can you please help me to create SMPPTS 
 spill  dataset,
 as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
 
  Please help me to find any book, which 
 describe about
 this. Thanks in advance.
 
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello,
 Thanks for suggestion. I will go ahead and create the SMPPTS1 

Regards
Saurabh

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:25 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
 wrote:

 Read here:
 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/gimusr42/A.6.10


 but it's basically allocate a second (or third or ...) PDS dataset and
 allocate it to SMPPTS1, up to SMPPTS99, in numeric order.

 --
 John McKown
 Systems Engineer IV
 IT

 Administrative Services Group

 HealthMarkets(r)

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  Subject: SMPPTS Dataset
 
  Hello Group,
  Can you please help me to create SMPPTS
  spill  dataset,
  as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
 
   Please help me to find any book, which
  describe about
  this. Thanks in advance.
 
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread Ed Gould
Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.

Ed

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On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
 
 as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
 
 Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
 and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
 to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
 dataset.
 
 
 Walter Marguccio
 z/OS Systems Programmer
 BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
 Munich - Germany
 
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread saurabh khandelwal
If I am creating new SPILL dataset, and make these entry in DDDEF. in this
case, i am not touching the old SMPPTS dataset.

In this case, Do I have to still copy the data from SMPPTS to SMPPTS1.

Regards
Saurabh

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.

 Ed

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
 
  as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
 
  Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
  and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
  to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
  dataset.
 
 
  Walter Marguccio
  z/OS Systems Programmer
  BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
  Munich - Germany
 
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Ed,

That is *bad* advice if they create SMPPTSn datasets.

It is only good advice if they copied SMPPTS to a larger dataset. This *was 
not* suggested

Bob

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Ed Gould
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset

Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.

Ed

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,

 as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.

 Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
 and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
 to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
 dataset.

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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
NO!

Bob


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saurabh khandelwal
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset

If I am creating new SPILL dataset, and make these entry in DDDEF. in this
case, i am not touching the old SMPPTS dataset.

In this case, Do I have to still copy the data from SMPPTS to SMPPTS1.

Regards
Saurabh

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.

 Ed

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
 
  as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
 
  Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
  and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
  to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
  dataset.
 
 
  Walter Marguccio
  z/OS Systems Programmer
  BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
  Munich - Germany
 
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread Ed Gould
Robert,

Yes and no. The writer wanted to make the dataset larger.
However you are also correct. I should have asked the necessary additional 
question. 
The basic question was answered but poorly.

Ed

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov 
wrote:

 Ed,
 
 That is *bad* advice if they create SMPPTSn datasets.
 
 It is only good advice if they copied SMPPTS to a larger dataset. This *was 
 not* suggested
 
 Bob
 
 -Original Message-
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 Of Ed Gould
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:31 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset
 
 Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.
 
 Ed
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 
 Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
 
 as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
 
 Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
 and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
 to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
 dataset.
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
The writer (Saurabh) *never said* he wanted to make the current SMPPTS larger. 
Below is his entire request: 

-
Hello Group,
Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset, as 
my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.

 Please help me to find any book, which describe about 
this. Thanks in advance.


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Thanks  Regards
Saurabh Khandelwal


Bob


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Ed Gould
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset

Robert,

Yes and no. The writer wanted to make the dataset larger.
However you are also correct. I should have asked the necessary additional 
question.
The basic question was answered but poorly.

Ed

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov 
wrote:

 Ed,

 That is *bad* advice if they create SMPPTSn datasets.

 It is only good advice if they copied SMPPTS to a larger dataset. This *was 
 not* suggested

 Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf 
 Of Ed Gould
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:31 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset

 Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.

 Ed

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

 Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,

 as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.

 Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
 and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
 to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
 dataset.

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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread saurabh khandelwal
My current SMPPTS dataset has no space. and I want to receive more PTF. So
what will be the best solution to solve this problem.

1) creating larger space SMPPTS dataset and move the current data to new
SMPPTS dataset.

2) Or creating SMPPTS1 spill dataset and make DDDEF entry in global, target,
and distribution zone..

Please suggest.

Regards
Saurabh

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Robert,

 Yes and no. The writer wanted to make the dataset larger.
 However you are also correct. I should have asked the necessary additional
 question.
 The basic question was answered but poorly.

 Ed

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Richards, Robert B. 
 robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote:

  Ed,
 
  That is *bad* advice if they create SMPPTSn datasets.
 
  It is only good advice if they copied SMPPTS to a larger dataset. This
 *was not* suggested
 
  Bob
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of Ed Gould
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:31 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset
 
  Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.
 
  Ed
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio 
 walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
 
  as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
 
  Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
  and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
  to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
  dataset.
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
#2

Eventually, if you did #1...you still might have to do #2. Besides, with #2, 
you can create as many as you want. Just create additional DDDEFs to match them 
(SMPPTS2, SMPPTS3, etc.)

Bob


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saurabh khandelwal
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset

My current SMPPTS dataset has no space. and I want to receive more PTF. So
what will be the best solution to solve this problem.

1) creating larger space SMPPTS dataset and move the current data to new
SMPPTS dataset.

2) Or creating SMPPTS1 spill dataset and make DDDEF entry in global, target,
and distribution zone..

Please suggest.

Regards
Saurabh

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Robert,

 Yes and no. The writer wanted to make the dataset larger.
 However you are also correct. I should have asked the necessary additional
 question.
 The basic question was answered but poorly.

 Ed

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Richards, Robert B. 
 robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote:

  Ed,
 
  That is *bad* advice if they create SMPPTSn datasets.
 
  It is only good advice if they copied SMPPTS to a larger dataset. This
 *was not* suggested
 
  Bob
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of Ed Gould
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:31 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset
 
  Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.
 
  Ed
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio 
 walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
 
  as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
 
  Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
  and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
  to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the newly created
  dataset.
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread McKown, John
Why? SMPPTS1..99 is a logical extention to SMPPTS and is how the SMP/E people 
got around the restriction that a PDS cannot span multiple volumes. NO need to 
copy the current SMPPTS contents at all. Allocate it to SMPPTS like at present 
and allocate the new one to SMPPTS1. If SMPPTS is full, SMP/E will 
automagically spill over to SMPPTS1. And, from my experience, you could eve put 
the old DSN on SMPPTS1, the new DSN on SMPPTS and avoid the spill over. SMP/E 
will search each SMPPTSn DD, in numeric order, looking for the appropriate 
member. Why do this? To avoid the overhead of trying to add new members to the 
full SMPPTS dataset. Do it my way and new members go to the new DSN on SMPPTS 
and, if necessary, SMP/E will search SMPPTS1 for older members. It doesn't 
really seem to matter.

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:31 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset
 
 Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.
 
 Ed
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio 
 walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
  
  as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
  
  Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
  and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF named SMPPTS1
  to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the 
 newly created
  dataset.
  
  
  Walter Marguccio
  z/OS Systems Programmer
  BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
  Munich - Germany
  
  
  
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread McKown, John
NO! You do NOT!

John McKown 

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:30 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: SMPPTS Dataset
 
 If I am creating new SPILL dataset, and make these entry in 
 DDDEF. in this
 case, i am not touching the old SMPPTS dataset.
 
 In this case, Do I have to still copy the data from SMPPTS to SMPPTS1.
 
 Regards
 Saurabh
 
 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Do not forget to copy the contents from your old to the new dataset.
 
  Ed
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Walter Marguccio 
 walter_marguc...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
 
   Can you please help me to create SMPPTS spill  dataset,
  
   as my  current SMPPTS  dataset has no space.
  
   Allocate a dataset with the same characteristics as your SMPPTS
   and call it i.e. yourhlq.SMPPTS1. Then, add a DDDEF 
 named SMPPTS1
   to your global, target and DLIB zones which points to the 
 newly created
   dataset.
  
  
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread McKown, John
I have SMPPTS and up to SMPPTS5 right now. I'm stuck on 3390-3 volumes. And I 
don't purge members at all. So I use the multiple DSN scenario and love it.

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 My current SMPPTS dataset has no space. and I want to receive 
 more PTF. So
 what will be the best solution to solve this problem.
 
 1) creating larger space SMPPTS dataset and move the current 
 data to new
 SMPPTS dataset.
 
 2) Or creating SMPPTS1 spill dataset and make DDDEF entry in 
 global, target,
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RES: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
If i have the option of choosing a method, i would prefer to enlarge
SMPPTS because when SMPPTS is out of space, even having SMPPTS1, SMPE
tries to compress SMPPTS what may take some time.

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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread McKown, John
Which is why I reverse them. When I allocate a new SMPPTS dataset, I make a new 
SMPPTSn DDDEF entry and give put the current SMPPTS  DSN in it. I then put the 
new DSN in the SMPPTS entry. I've never had a problem doing this. There does 
not appear to be any relationship between the dataset name and the SMPPTSn DD 
name. Other than that you cannot skip a number. You must use SMPPTS, then 
SMPPTS1, then SMPPTS2 and so on. But you can move the DSNs around so long as 
the all appear a single time in one of the SMPPTSn DDDEFs.

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 If i have the option of choosing a method, i would prefer to enlarge
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 tries to compress SMPPTS what may take some time.
 
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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread McKown, John
Oh, also, if you make your SMPPTS datasets PDSEs instead of an old style PDS, 
SMP/E knows better than to try to compress. 

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 If i have the option of choosing a method, i would prefer to enlarge
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 tries to compress SMPPTS what may take some time.
 
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Re: RES: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:56:35 -0300, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO 
4254.itur...@bradesco.com.br wrote:

If i have the option of choosing a method, i would prefer to enlarge
SMPPTS because when SMPPTS is out of space, even having SMPPTS1, SMPE
tries to compress SMPPTS what may take some time.


In my global zone recovery options, I have all my SMPPTS(n) data sets
excluded from retry.   

I compress them manually when I so desire (like after accepting an RSU
level).   Otherwise whenever you receive new maintenance you tend
to see the out of space messages.

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RES: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Good Point...

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Assunto: Re: SMPPTS Dataset

Oh, also, if you make your SMPPTS datasets PDSEs instead of an old style PDS, 
SMP/E knows better than to try to compress.

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 tries to compress SMPPTS what may take some time.

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Re: SMPPTS Dataset

2011-07-25 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Thanks to all for suggestion.

Regards
Saurabh

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:48 AM, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO 
4254.itur...@bradesco.com.br wrote:

 Good Point...

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 Assunto: Re: SMPPTS Dataset

 Oh, also, if you make your SMPPTS datasets PDSEs instead of an old style
 PDS, SMP/E knows better than to try to compress.

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