Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-11 Thread Glenn Miller
Hi Ron,

You can contact me off-list at the email address:

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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-11 Thread Ron Wells
thanks for looking at this...getting conflict msg's on this.
trying again this weekend...better warm confort feeling someone else 
looking at it...


fyi

switch I am connecting to is a brocade 5000..

they say out of the box there is no confuration   getting various info 
on that too...but another issue

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Fw: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-10 Thread Ron Wells
They mentioned zoning...but found error in iodef as well
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Is this a new switch?  If so, make sure you have the default zone
enabled for the fabric.  Default zone allows all WWPNs that are not
defined to a zone to go into a default zone.  I had an issue recently
setting up a brocade switch.  Nothing would connect until I zoned it or
enabled the default zone.  There are a few bugs in the software that
seem to prevent you from enabling the default zone, but eventually, we
got it to work.

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Fw: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-10 Thread Ron Wells
we have a brocade 5000...was there a specific rel level code??
any oither specifics?? we are going to try again this weekend..
even with out iodef not correct most of the devices should have come up..
as mentioned the STK guy mentioned zoning..

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Is this a new switch?  If so, make sure you have the default zone
enabled for the fabric.  Default zone allows all WWPNs that are not
defined to a zone to go into a default zone.  I had an issue recently
setting up a brocade switch.  Nothing would connect until I zoned it or
enabled the default zone.  There are a few bugs in the software that
seem to prevent you from enabling the default zone, but eventually, we
got it to work.

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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-10 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
Do you use the Brocade ECFM software to configure the switch (level 9.6
is current level, I believe)?  I am working with Brocade i10k's, but I
think your switch should use ECFM as well.  If you don't have current
level, you should upgrade that first.

You should still be able to get devices connected if the IODF has an
error on just some of the devices.  Seems like zoning is the problem.
Let me know if you use ECFM and I will try to stimulate my brain with
caffeine to remember the details.

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we have a brocade 5000...was there a specific rel level code??
any oither specifics?? we are going to try again this weekend..
even with out iodef not correct most of the devices should have come
up..
as mentioned the STK guy mentioned zoning..

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Is this a new switch?  If so, make sure you have the default zone
enabled for the fabric.  Default zone allows all WWPNs that are not
defined to a zone to go into a default zone.  I had an issue recently
setting up a brocade switch.  Nothing would connect until I zoned it or
enabled the default zone.  There are a few bugs in the software that
seem to prevent you from enabling the default zone, but eventually, we
got it to work.

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Not getting connect after POR...had to backoff and STK not understading
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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-10 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
Is this a new switch?  If so, make sure you have the default zone
enabled for the fabric.  Default zone allows all WWPNs that are not
defined to a zone to go into a default zone.  I had an issue recently
setting up a brocade switch.  Nothing would connect until I zoned it or
enabled the default zone.  There are a few bugs in the software that
seem to prevent you from enabling the default zone, but eventually, we
got it to work.

Steve

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Not getting connect after POR...had to backoff and STK not understading
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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-10 Thread Ron Wells
thanks for help---had config wrong--addr

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Fw: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-10 Thread Ron Wells
will check with STK person coming in today...both on OS levele and the 
Zone issue..
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Do you use the Brocade ECFM software to configure the switch (level 9.6
is current level, I believe)?  I am working with Brocade i10k's, but I
think your switch should use ECFM as well.  If you don't have current
level, you should upgrade that first.

You should still be able to get devices connected if the IODF has an
error on just some of the devices.  Seems like zoning is the problem.
Let me know if you use ECFM and I will try to stimulate my brain with
caffeine to remember the details.

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we have a brocade 5000...was there a specific rel level code??
any oither specifics?? we are going to try again this weekend..
even with out iodef not correct most of the devices should have come
up..
as mentioned the STK guy mentioned zoning..

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Is this a new switch?  If so, make sure you have the default zone
enabled for the fabric.  Default zone allows all WWPNs that are not
defined to a zone to go into a default zone.  I had an issue recently
setting up a brocade switch.  Nothing would connect until I zoned it or
enabled the default zone.  There are a few bugs in the software that
seem to prevent you from enabling the default zone, but eventually, we
got it to work.

Steve

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Any one out here deal with Storage Tek and a Brocade switch (defined as
IBM 2032 switch)...
Not getting connect after POR...had to backoff and STK not understading
why??

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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-10 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
There is an issue with enabling the default zone in EFCM.  For some
reason, at least on the i10ks, the default zone box is grayed out, so
you have to trick the GUI into enabling it.  This is how:  Sign on to
EFCM, highlight the switch, and select the Configure\zoning tab.  When
the pop-up appears, select the Zoning Policies button.  You can enable
default zone from there.  If it is grayed out, you must toggle the
Safe Zoning Mode checkbox, then click OK.  Go back into the Zoning
Policies, uncheck the Safe Zoning Mode checkbox, and the Default
Zone should then be accessible.  Mark it enabled, and Safe Zoning
disabled.  Close the dialog box, and then activate the zoning
configuration.

You want to use the default zone if you can, that way, you don't have to
rezone anything if a GBIC is replaced (since it will have a different
WWPN, it will have to be added to the zone).  Default zone says to put
everything that is not explicitly coded into zone, into a zone called
default.  This allows any-to-any connection within the switch, which
works, since you define the paths through the switch in the IOCDS.

Regards,
Steve 

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will check with STK person coming in today...both on OS levele and the
Zone issue..
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Do you use the Brocade ECFM software to configure the switch (level 9.6
is current level, I believe)?  I am working with Brocade i10k's, but I
think your switch should use ECFM as well.  If you don't have current
level, you should upgrade that first.

You should still be able to get devices connected if the IODF has an
error on just some of the devices.  Seems like zoning is the problem.
Let me know if you use ECFM and I will try to stimulate my brain with
caffeine to remember the details.

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we have a brocade 5000...was there a specific rel level code??
any oither specifics?? we are going to try again this weekend..
even with out iodef not correct most of the devices should have come
up..
as mentioned the STK guy mentioned zoning..

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Is this a new switch?  If so, make sure you have the default zone
enabled for the fabric.  Default zone allows all WWPNs that are not
defined to a zone to go into a default zone.  I had an issue recently
setting up a brocade switch.  Nothing would connect until I zoned it or
enabled the default zone.  There are a few bugs in the software that
seem to prevent you from enabling the default zone, but eventually, we
got it to work.

Steve

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Any one out here deal with Storage Tek and a Brocade switch (defined as
IBM 2032 switch)...
Not getting connect after POR...had to backoff and STK not understading
why??

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STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-09 Thread Ron Wells
Any one out here deal with Storage Tek and a Brocade switch (defined as 
IBM 2032 switch)...
Not getting connect after POR...had to backoff and STK not understading 
why??

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Fw: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-09 Thread Ron Wells
anyone care to share there 2032-mod 1 IOCP...having problems and wanted to 
compare ...
(4) ficon chips to switch and (8) out bound...anything close woiuld help..




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why??

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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-09 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
I had assumed this was an activation issue.  Did this configuration ever
work?  If not I would definitely revisit your switch and port values.  I
would also make sure things are really plugged in, etc.

It would be easier if I could see your configuration, but below is a
brief example...  The switch domains are 60 (X'3C') and 160 (X'A0') and
the ports are fc1/5 (X'04'), fc1/9 (X'08') and fc3/2 (X'41').

CHPID,PATH=(CSS(0),01),SHARED,,   *
  PARTITION=((A000,A100),(B000)), *
  SWITCH=3C,PCHID=100,TYPE=FC

CNTLUNIT,CUNUMBR=D000,PATH=((CSS(0),01,02,03)),   *
  UNITADD=((00,256)),LINK=((CSS(0),3C04,3C41,A008)),  *
  CUADD=0,UNIT=2105

IODEVICE,ADDRESS=(1000,256),CUNUMBR=(D000),STADET=Y,UNIT=3390

Regards,

Kevin

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anyone care to share there 2032-mod 1 IOCP...having problems and wanted
to 
compare ...
(4) ficon chips to switch and (8) out bound...anything close woiuld
help..

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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-09 Thread Michael Saraco
I had a situation once in setting up a switch configuration where the 
activation went fine but I had one channel that would never come on line. 
What happened was at the remote site they had a mix of different FICON 
cables at the remote site. I had the remote site put matching cables and 
that fixed the problem. 
When you do a D M=DEVICE() what does that look like?






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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef



I had assumed this was an activation issue.  Did this configuration ever
work?  If not I would definitely revisit your switch and port values.  I
would also make sure things are really plugged in, etc.

It would be easier if I could see your configuration, but below is a
brief example...  The switch domains are 60 (X'3C') and 160 (X'A0') and
the ports are fc1/5 (X'04'), fc1/9 (X'08') and fc3/2 (X'41').

CHPID,PATH=(CSS(0),01),SHARED,,   *
  PARTITION=((A000,A100),(B000)), *
  SWITCH=3C,PCHID=100,TYPE=FC

CNTLUNIT,CUNUMBR=D000,PATH=((CSS(0),01,02,03)),   *
  UNITADD=((00,256)),LINK=((CSS(0),3C04,3C41,A008)),  *
  CUADD=0,UNIT=2105

IODEVICE,ADDRESS=(1000,256),CUNUMBR=(D000),STADET=Y,UNIT=3390

Regards,

Kevin

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anyone care to share there 2032-mod 1 IOCP...having problems and wanted
to 
compare ...
(4) ficon chips to switch and (8) out bound...anything close woiuld
help..

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Re: STK-SUN-Brocade switch--2032 IOdef

2008-06-09 Thread Glenn Miller
Hi Ron,

We have 4 Brocade ( previously McData ) 6064 switches.  We have 2 
switches installed at our primary z/OS host site and 2 switches installed at our
D/R site.  We have 'paired' the switches into 2 seperate 'fabrics' that use 
multiple DWDM links that create each 'fabric'.

Any control unit/device we want to use on the switches must be defined to 
the processor ( we have 2 z990's ) channel subsystem, of course.  Also, the 
switches themselves are able to send status/error information to the 
z/OS 'director software component' via a CUP device.  The switch knows of 
the CUP device by the port address in the LINK parameter of FE.  Listed 
below is the IOCP control statements for one of the CUP devices on one of 
my primary z/OS host site switches:

CHPID PATH=(CSS(0),E5),SHARED,*
  PARTITION=((C1LP01,C1LP02,C1LP03,C1LP04,C1LP05,C1LP06),(*
  =)),SWITCH=70,PCHID=3C1,TYPE=FC  
CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=F070,PATH=((CSS(0),E5)),UNITADD=((00,001)),  *
  LINK=((CSS(0),70FE)),UNIT=2032   
IODEVICE ADDRESS=070,UNITADD=00,CUNUMBR=(F070),STADET=Y,  *
  UNIT=2032


I'm not really clear on how/why/were SUN/STK got involved, unless you 
purchased the switches from SUN/STK.  That would make sense.  If not, then 
I'm not sure what the 'connection' issue is.

HTH

Glenn Miller

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