Re: Space Abend - Stumped - f o l l o w u p

2006-10-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Willie,

See the SETSYS CDSVERSIONBACKUP parameter/subparameters.

HSM dumps to the "oldest" (if there are more than 1) versions of the
backup dataset. It then renames to the 
"current version" and remembers the current version. AFAI recall, none
of these files are in use except during 
BACKVOL CDS processing. You should be able to delete/reallocate them on
the fly. Reallocate them with the 
Primary space equal to the current allocation and an appropriate
secondary and you should be OK.

If the HSM journal fills up all HSM automatic functions (BACKUP, DUMP,
etc.) will be placed in "HOLD" status.
i.e. HSM will 'go to sleep' until a manual release is performed.

The DF/DSS backup will make a backup copy of your MCDS, but will not
alleviate the requirement for HSM to 
Successfully complete a "BACKVOL CDS" command.

 
... clearing that up for me.  Just to inquire about the suggestion to
force a backup - F DFHSM,BACKVOL CDS.  I assume that this goes to disk.
Am I right?  Can I force the backup to tape?  If so how would I do that?
Also, since I am unable to get this fixed, I have scheduled a shutdown
of DFHSM, execute a DFDSS backup of the MCDS to tape.  Could you please
tell me what is the significance of the disk backup copies?  I checked
to see if DFHSM is using them (TSO command ISRDDN E) but I don't see
anything.  What is the danger if I the disk backup has failed? I am not
familiar with this portion of DFHSM any information that you could
provide would be very helpful.
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Re: Space Abend - Stumped - f o l l o w u p

2006-10-09 Thread willie bunter
Allan,
   
  Thanks for clearing that up for me.  Just to inquire about the suggestion to 
force a backup - F DFHSM,BACKVOL CDS.  I assume that this goes to disk.  Am I 
right?  Can I force the backup to tape?  If so how would I do that?  Also, 
since I am unable to get this fixed, I have scheduled a shutdown of DFHSM, 
execute a DFDSS backup of the MCDS to tape.  Could you please tell me what is 
the significance of the disk backup copies?  I checked to see if DFHSM is using 
them (TSO command ISRDDN E) but I don't see anything.  What is the danger if I 
the disk backup has failed? I am not familiar with this portion of DFHSM any 
information that you could provide would be very helpful.
   
  Thanks 

"Staller, Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Insufficient space is allocated for the backup copies. 

HSM dumps to pre-allocated datasets. 

Delete and redefine all backup copies with the current size
as the primary allocation. Them force a backup with F DFHSM,BACKVOL CDS

You might also check the blocksize of the backups for 1/2 track
blocking.
HTH,


I am stumped with solving this space abend problem :

IEC030I B37-04,IFG0554A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,SYS5,BD53,SBH124,HSM.MCDS
CKUP.X0006033




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Re: Space Abend - Stumped

2006-10-09 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Is the volume fragmented or can you get the primary allocation in one
extent? If so, then defrag the volume and try again. If not, then
increase your allocation sizes. 


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Subject: Re: Space Abend - Stumped

I guess a couple of questions would be
What is the primary and secondary allocation?

>From the listing it looks like the data set went to 16 extents and died.
Perhaps a change on the primary or secondary space allocation would be
needed?  

Lizette 

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Re: Space Abend - Stumped

2006-10-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
I guess a couple of questions would be
What is the primary and secondary allocation?

>From the listing it looks like the data set went to 16 extents and died.  
>Perhaps a change on the primary or secondary space allocation would be needed? 
> 

Lizette 

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Re: Space Abend - Stumped

2006-10-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Insufficient space is allocated for the backup copies. 

HSM dumps to pre-allocated datasets. 

Delete and redefine all backup copies with the current size
as the primary allocation. Them force a backup with F DFHSM,BACKVOL CDS

You might also check the blocksize of the backups for 1/2 track
blocking.
HTH,


  I am stumped with solving this space abend problem :
   
  IEC030I B37-04,IFG0554A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,SYS5,BD53,SBH124,HSM.MCDS
  CKUP.X0006033

   


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Space Abend - Stumped

2006-10-09 Thread willie bunter
Hallo to all,
   
  I am stumped with solving this space abend problem :
   
  IEC030I B37-04,IFG0554A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,SYS5,BD53,SBH124,HSM.MCDS
  CKUP.X0006033 

   
  This is a backup of the MCDS created by a task submitted by the started task 
DFHSM.  What it is trying to do is back up the MCDS on dasd.  It abend with a 
B37.  I checked the volume and there is sufficient space available (1,020 
tracks).  This dsn is SMS managed with GUARANTEE SPACE.   According to the 
explanation it points that no space is available and no other volumes were 
specified.  When I check the DSN it shows that it has reached 16 extents.  My 
question is did the task abend because of insufficient space is on the volume 
or is it because that insufficient space was allocated for this dsn.  
   
   Tracks   
 %Used XT  Device 

  HSM.MCDS.BACKUP.X0006034  34500  100  16  3390 

   
  Thanks in advance.
   
  Thanks.  
   
   


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