Re: What Now?

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Turns out that I can produce a report from TLMS11 which shows the names of 
all new tape datasets created the previous day, or on a specified date. With 
that as input I wrote some REXX code to scan for the VTS volumes I want 
based on patterns for the dataset name. Then it's a small matter of creating 
the control cards to feed into the stacking process for the EXPORT job.

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Re: What Now?

2008-01-24 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Thanks, Mark. I'll check your utilities. We're TLMS, no CopyCat.

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Re: What Now?

2008-01-23 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
I checked and we don't have CopyCat, nor do we use the GUI stuff. Thank 
you for your suggestions. I'm going to look into developing some REXX stuff to 
do the job when we get rolling.

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Re: What Now?

2008-01-23 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I checked and we don't have CopyCat, nor do we use the GUI stuff.
Thank 
 you for your suggestions. I'm going to look into developing some REXX
stuff to 
 do the job when we get rolling.
 

IIRC you have CA-1 or TLMS. You could check what Copycat would cost you,
I believe it was not that expensive. Developping the tool with REXX will
cost time and money too.

Kees.
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Re: What Now?

2008-01-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:53:52 -0600, Daniel McLaughlin
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I checked and we don't have CopyCat, nor do we use the GUI stuff. Thank
you for your suggestions. I'm going to look into developing some REXX stuff to
do the job when we get rolling.


Before you re-invent the wheel, I wrote a REXX tape stacking program in 
the 90s (last updated 2002).  It can generate COPYCAT or IEBGENER JCL. Since
COPYCAT can copy the original creation date, jobname, etc. it is preferred.
There is code to generate TMSUPDTE cards when using the IEBGENER option,
but that is only to expire the original tape.  Obviously more work could be 
done to carry forward some other fields from the original tape if desired. 
I originally wrote the program to consolidate 3490 to 3490E in combination
with an STK 9310 SILO so everything would fit into the SILO.

I missed your original post so I don't know if you are running CA-1 or TLMS, 
but my program was written to work with CA-1.   Look for TAPESTAK on 
CBT file 434 or my web site (URL below).

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What Now?

2008-01-15 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
The VTS thing is working fine for in-house stuff. Now there is a push to 
copy/convert all the offsite permanent volumes to stacked exported tapes. 
The problem? We don't have a clue on how to get started on this beastie. 
We're using TapeCopy as our engine and I can run all sorts of reports and 
create the jobs, but we have 6,300 tapes and 10,500 datasets to move from 
3480 and 3490 to stacked 3590e tapes. That's a lot of manual stuff...

The Redbook on VTS is of some help, but not from a practical standpoint. 
Would anyone care to share their experiences with us? Somehow this got 
pretty much dropped in tech's lap and it's mostly TLMS type work. (We install 
it...not run it)

TIA...

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Re: What Now?

2008-01-15 Thread Darth Keller
The VTS thing is working fine for in-house stuff. Now there is a push to 
copy/convert all the offsite permanent volumes to stacked exported tapes. 

The problem? We don't have a clue on how to get started on this beastie. 
We're using TapeCopy as our engine and I can run all sorts of reports and 

create the jobs, but we have 6,300 tapes and 10,500 datasets to move from 

3480 and 3490 to stacked 3590e tapes. That's a lot of manual stuff...

The Redbook on VTS is of some help, but not from a practical standpoint. 
Would anyone care to share their experiences with us? Somehow this got 
pretty much dropped in tech's lap and it's mostly TLMS type work. (We 
install 
it...not run it)

If you have TapeCopy, do you have their VDR product?  This is what we use 
to vault all our virtual tapes needed for a DR event and our permanently 
vaulted tapes.  We break it down by vault code  it works very well.
dd keller
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Re: What Now?

2008-01-15 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Look at Opentech.com. They are VTS experts including tapecopy solutions. 

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Subject: What Now?

The VTS thing is working fine for in-house stuff. Now there is a push to
copy/convert all the offsite permanent volumes to stacked exported tapes. 
The problem? We don't have a clue on how to get started on this beastie. 
We're using TapeCopy as our engine and I can run all sorts of reports and
create the jobs, but we have 6,300 tapes and 10,500 datasets to move from
3480 and 3490 to stacked 3590e tapes. That's a lot of manual stuff...

The Redbook on VTS is of some help, but not from a practical standpoint. 
Would anyone care to share their experiences with us? Somehow this got
pretty much dropped in tech's lap and it's mostly TLMS type work. (We
install it...not run it)

TIA...

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Re: What Now?

2008-01-15 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We didn't opt for VDR as we use the ATL for our DR stuff.

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Re: What Now?

2008-01-15 Thread Doug Fuerst

We use VDR to back up the VTS.

Doug

At 11:21 15-01-08, you wrote:

We didn't opt for VDR as we use the ATL for our DR stuff.

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Re: What Now?

2008-01-15 Thread Russell Witt
Dan,

Call TLMS L1 support as well. You may already be licensed for TLMS/Copycat;
which will allow you to copy all those files from the virtual tapes to a
couple of 3590e cartridges. You can use EARL or the Vantage/GMI gui
interface to select those files you want copied; and have the output list be
fed directly to Copycat.

Russell Witt
TLMS L2 Support Manager

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The VTS thing is working fine for in-house stuff. Now there is a push to
copy/convert all the offsite permanent volumes to stacked exported tapes.
The problem? We don't have a clue on how to get started on this beastie.
We're using TapeCopy as our engine and I can run all sorts of reports and
create the jobs, but we have 6,300 tapes and 10,500 datasets to move from
3480 and 3490 to stacked 3590e tapes. That's a lot of manual stuff...

The Redbook on VTS is of some help, but not from a practical standpoint.
Would anyone care to share their experiences with us? Somehow this got
pretty much dropped in tech's lap and it's mostly TLMS type work. (We
install
it...not run it)

TIA...

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