Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options

2011-07-08 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
We are in the same situation (on 1.9 and want to get to 1.12).  After some 
research I found that there was really no compat maintenance from 1.11 to 1.12, 
so we just put on the compat maint for 1.9 to 1.10 and 1.9 to 1.11 and we're 
currently trying the upgrade to 1.12.  So far there have been no issues and 
with our simple setup I think we should be fine. 

We are also a simple monoplex.  I would probably not try this upgrade if we 
were any kind of multi-system sysplex.  

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
John Eells
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 3:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options

Johnston, Robert E wrote:
 Short version... We are running z/OS 1.9 and do not have a 1.10 or 1.11 
 system to install. I'd like to install a 1.12 Serverpac on the road back to 
 being supported. I know about the n+2 rule but how do I get out of this 
 pickle? I'm not talking about toleration and coexistence, just a driving 
 system to install 1.12. We are a pretty simple monoplex.

 Shopz has a driving system that can be ordered. Is this a good approach?

 I would like to use our 1.9 system to install 1.12. The 1.12 doc says you 
 must have at least 1.10. Does anyone know if 1.9 will work for the Serverpac 
 install?

 Are there any other options that I may not know about? (of course, it can't 
 cost a lot of money ;)
snip

z/OS R10 is the lowest supported release of z/OS, at least for a few 
more months.  While z/OS R9 might or might not work for installing z/OS 
R12, we didn't test it and won't support it if there is a problem.

It would be safest to order a Customized Offerings Driver (5751-COD), 
IPL it in a test LPAR, and use it to install R12.  Having a system 
available that meets the driving system requirements for the current 
release is one of the two reasons we have a COD.  If you intend to try 
installing R12 using R9, you might consider ordering the COD as a 
backup, so if there is a problem you won't have to wait for another 
order.  The price is right (there is no additional charge if you have a 
z/OS license).

Current information on the COD is in z/OS Planning for Installation 
topic 3.1, What is the Customized Offerings Driver?:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/e0z2b1b0/3.1?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=20100701181224

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Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options

2011-07-08 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Thanks to everyone who responded, both on and off list. I have the COD ordered 
and will order my 1.12 Serverpac today. I may try using our 1.9 system to 
install the 1.12 SP but am going to wait until I see the COD doc before 
deciding. At least our 1.9 system should have all available maintenance on. 
Hopefully it won't be too bumpy of a ride...

Thanks again and have a great weekend,
Robert

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z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options

2011-07-07 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Short version... We are running z/OS 1.9 and do not have a 1.10 or 1.11 system 
to install. I'd like to install a 1.12 Serverpac on the road back to being 
supported. I know about the n+2 rule but how do I get out of this pickle? I'm 
not talking about toleration and coexistence, just a driving system to install 
1.12. We are a pretty simple monoplex.

Shopz has a driving system that can be ordered. Is this a good approach?

I would like to use our 1.9 system to install 1.12. The 1.12 doc says you must 
have at least 1.10. Does anyone know if 1.9 will work for the Serverpac install?

Are there any other options that I may not know about? (of course, it can't 
cost a lot of money ;)

Thanks for any advice,
Robert Johnston
UAMS - Little Rock

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Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options

2011-07-07 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
We just used 1.9 as a driver system for our 1.12 install. Not a problem.

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Behalf Of Johnston, Robert E
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options

Short version... We are running z/OS 1.9 and do not have a 1.10 or 1.11
system to install. I'd like to install a 1.12 Serverpac on the road back
to being supported. I know about the n+2 rule but how do I get out of
this pickle? I'm not talking about toleration and coexistence, just a
driving system to install 1.12. We are a pretty simple monoplex.

Shopz has a driving system that can be ordered. Is this a good approach?

I would like to use our 1.9 system to install 1.12. The 1.12 doc says
you must have at least 1.10. Does anyone know if 1.9 will work for the
Serverpac install?

Are there any other options that I may not know about? (of course, it
can't cost a lot of money ;)

Thanks for any advice,
Robert Johnston
UAMS - Little Rock

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Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options

2011-07-07 Thread John Eells

Johnston, Robert E wrote:

Short version... We are running z/OS 1.9 and do not have a 1.10 or 1.11 system 
to install. I'd like to install a 1.12 Serverpac on the road back to being 
supported. I know about the n+2 rule but how do I get out of this pickle? I'm 
not talking about toleration and coexistence, just a driving system to install 
1.12. We are a pretty simple monoplex.

Shopz has a driving system that can be ordered. Is this a good approach?

I would like to use our 1.9 system to install 1.12. The 1.12 doc says you must 
have at least 1.10. Does anyone know if 1.9 will work for the Serverpac install?

Are there any other options that I may not know about? (of course, it can't 
cost a lot of money ;)

snip

z/OS R10 is the lowest supported release of z/OS, at least for a few 
more months.  While z/OS R9 might or might not work for installing z/OS 
R12, we didn't test it and won't support it if there is a problem.


It would be safest to order a Customized Offerings Driver (5751-COD), 
IPL it in a test LPAR, and use it to install R12.  Having a system 
available that meets the driving system requirements for the current 
release is one of the two reasons we have a COD.  If you intend to try 
installing R12 using R9, you might consider ordering the COD as a 
backup, so if there is a problem you won't have to wait for another 
order.  The price is right (there is no additional charge if you have a 
z/OS license).


Current information on the COD is in z/OS Planning for Installation 
topic 3.1, What is the Customized Offerings Driver?:


http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/e0z2b1b0/3.1?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=20100701181224

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z/OS Technical Marketing
IBM Poughkeepsie
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