Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


... "tap out at around 27,000 mips"

IBM leaks details of new z10 Enterprise Class mainframe
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1301967,00.html

Other features of the new big iron new offering include the following:

* a quad-core mainframe central processor previously called the z6;
* fixed hardware storage area (HSA) of 16 GB, so users won't have to
  sacrifice memory for HSA any longer;
* an integrated hardware decimal floating-point processor to aid with
  financial and enterprise resource planning applications;
* a reduction in power-on reset (POR), which could enable the ability to
  reassign additional logical partition (LPAR) resources without
  compromising application performance; and
* a feature called HiperDispatch, the details of which are unclear.

... snip ...

it has been 40yrs since (virtual machine) cp67 was "announced" at the
spring share in houston.

i was undergraduate at university when three people had come out from
the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

to install cp67 the last week of jan68. as a result, i got asked to go
to houston and participate in the announcement.

share is next week in orlando
http://www.share.org/events/Orlando/index.cfm

one of next week's (two) themes is virtualization:
http://www.share.org/events/Orlando/second_postcard.cfm#virtual

Featured sessions covering network and storage virtualization as well as
System z virtualization include:

* IBM Transformation: Major IT Consolidation Initiative for Project Big Green
* Using Virtualization to Consolidate Servers
* The Role of Storage Virtualization in Enterprise Class Computing Using
  VSM from Sun
* Preparing to Successfully Deploy and Exploit Virtualization
* Data Centers of the Future: The Impact of High Density Computing
* The Role of Storage Virtualization in Enterprise Computing
* Introduction to Network Virtualization
* Details of SAN Virtualization – Today and in the Future
* Preparing to Successfully Deploy and Execute Virtualization
* IBM Transformation: Major IT Consolidation Initiative

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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-21 Thread Patrick Falcone
Thanks Phil,
   
  I like the following "Users will no longer give up memory for HSA (hardware 
storage area)". I was crowing about this when the z800/z900's came out and was 
told we would need to allocate 1GB of 8GB's for HSA.
  

Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Going to be more fun, I suspect, than many realise.

There are n new instructions? Some have mentioned 50.

Will it still be 'z/Architecture'?

z/Architecture is the subject of litigation - does IBM wish to include the new 
stuff in that -
changing the effective meaning of the expression halfway through a lawsuit?

Or, indeed, _can_ they? Some think not. There are those who believe that any 
extension of
z/Architecture (which this will de facto be) could invalidate at least one and 
possibly two of
the main planks in IBM's case against PSI.

There is a LOT going on behind the scenes.

Another z10 source:

http://topgun-tech.com/resource-center/zseries-library/articles/marketplace-trends-ibm-zseries

And you may care to check out the definition of NDA at 
http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html


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z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-21 Thread Phil Payne
Going to be more fun, I suspect, than many realise.

There are n new instructions?  Some have mentioned 50.

Will it still be 'z/Architecture'?

z/Architecture is the subject of litigation - does IBM wish to include the new 
stuff in that -
changing the effective meaning of the expression halfway through a lawsuit?

Or, indeed, _can_ they?  Some think not.  There are those who believe that any 
extension of
z/Architecture (which this will de facto be) could invalidate at least one and 
possibly two of
the main planks in IBM's case against PSI.

There is a LOT going on behind the scenes.

Another z10 source:

http://topgun-tech.com/resource-center/zseries-library/articles/marketplace-trends-ibm-zseries

And you may care to check out the definition of NDA at 
http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html


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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-15 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris
> 
> On 14 Feb 2008 06:29:13 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:53:00 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)
> >
> >Searching for IBM and z10 gives the following:
> >
> >o Three-leaf clover--Z 9, Z 1 0
> >
> >at
> >
> >http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/411/brunner.html
> 
> How many of you went to the link and got the MEGO (my eyes 
> glaze over) result like I did.

Some of it looks like stuff the ophthalmologist showed me before he told
me that I'm developing cataracts, so LASIK is not a viable option.

-jc-

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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-14 Thread Clark Morris
On 14 Feb 2008 06:29:13 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:53:00 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)
>
>Searching for IBM and z10 gives the following:
>
>o Three-leaf clover--Z 9, Z 1 0 
>
>at
>
>http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/411/brunner.html

How many of you went to the link and got the MEGO (my eyes glaze over)
result like I did.

Clark Morris
>
>(sorry, couldn't resist that one...)
>
>Seb
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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-14 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Thanks for that.


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Subject: Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

You heard wrong. Check this
http://www.cnet.com/8301-13512_1-9763911-23.html?tag=more

"In this year's final Hot Chips presentation, IBM described the z6,
the code name for its next mainframe processor."

It was presented by Charles Webb, it is available on internet, I think
there were also links to that presentation here.
No z6 after z9, don't mix processor chip with the server :)

Marian

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Van Dalsen, Herbie
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> Last I heard, it was going to be z6 to be in-line with p6... They must
>  have changed their minds when they realized they don't know what to
do
>  after p8...
>
>
>
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>  "Miklos Szigetvari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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>  > Hi
>  >
>  > Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)
>  >
>  > --
>  > Miklos Szigetvari
>
>  Wow, so the beast has a name now!
>
>  Kees.
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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-14 Thread Marian Gasparovic
You heard wrong. Check this
http://www.cnet.com/8301-13512_1-9763911-23.html?tag=more

"In this year's final Hot Chips presentation, IBM described the z6,
the code name for its next mainframe processor."

It was presented by Charles Webb, it is available on internet, I think
there were also links to that presentation here.
No z6 after z9, don't mix processor chip with the server :)

Marian

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Van Dalsen, Herbie
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Last I heard, it was going to be z6 to be in-line with p6... They must
>  have changed their minds when they realized they don't know what to do
>  after p8...
>
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
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>  Sent: 14 Februarie 2008 01:59 nm
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>  Subject: Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb
>
>  "Miklos Szigetvari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
>  message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>  > Hi
>  >
>  > Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)
>  >
>  > --
>  > Miklos Szigetvari
>
>  Wow, so the beast has a name now!
>
>  Kees.
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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-14 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Last I heard, it was going to be z6 to be in-line with p6... They must
have changed their minds when they realized they don't know what to do
after p8...


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Subject: Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

"Miklos Szigetvari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi
> 
> Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)
> 
> -- 
> Miklos Szigetvari

Wow, so the beast has a name now!

Kees.
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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-14 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:53:00 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)

Searching for IBM and z10 gives the following:

o Three-leaf clover--Z 9, Z 1 0 

at

http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/411/brunner.html

(sorry, couldn't resist that one...)

Seb

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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-14 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Miklos Szigetvari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> Hi
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> Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)
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> -- 
> Miklos Szigetvari

Wow, so the beast has a name now!

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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-14 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari
> 
> Hi
> 
> Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)

With all the speculation, "leaks" and "rumors" floating around, it would
seem fitting if IBM would just call it "zBox" and be done with it.

-jc-

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z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-14 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Just got an invitation for a  z10 presentation  (26 February)

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