Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-23 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
 Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:50 PM
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 Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?
 
 snip
 ---
 I was really excited by the conditional load/store which 
 I guess is 
 similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they 
 will combine a compare and load/store or do a load/store 
 based on the 
 existing CC from a previous instruction. I remember a RISC 
 processor of 
 some sort where every instruction was conditional. On the z, 
 that would 
 cost 4 bits per instruction if the mask were encoded like in 
 a branch. I 
 wonder how that would affect efficiency and pipelining?
 ---unsnip---
 ---
 I don't care who calls it what, but PLEASE, ANYONE, send me a copy of 
 the PoPs manual as a E-Mail ttachment as soon as you can get 
 a grip on 
 it. I'm stuck in a dessert here, with very poor access to 
 anything.  :-(
 
 Rick

I wouldn't mind being stuck in a dessert. Preferrably one with chocolate. Or 
did you mean desert?

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zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread McKown, John
I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section which 
stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following catagories:


High-word facility

Interlocked-access facility

Load/Store on condition facility

Distinct operands facility

Integer to/from floating point conversions

PER zero address detect

Decimal floating point quantum exceptions

New crypto functions and modes

Virtual architectural level

Non-quiescing SSKe

Anybody know if a new PoPS documenting these exists anywhere?
John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

HealthMarkets(r)

9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
(817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

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Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
According to the product announcement:

The following publications will be available at planned availability in the
*Library* section of Resource Link:
Application Programming Interfaces for Java (API-JAVA)Application
Programming Interfaces (SB10-7030)Capacity on Demand User's Guide
(SC28-2605)Common Information Model (CIM) Management Interface
(SB10-7154)Hardware
Management Console Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6895)Parts Catalog
(GC28-6898)SCSI IPL - Machine Loader Messages (SC28-6839)Service Guide for
HMCs and SEs (GC28-6861)Stand-Alone IOCP User's Guide (SB10-7152)Support
Element Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6896)OSA-Express Customer's Guide
and Reference (SA22-7935)OSA-Express3 Integrated Console Controller
Dual-Port User's Guide (SC23-2266)Coupling Links I/O Interface Physical
Layer (SA23-0395)ESCON and FICON CTC Reference (SB10-7034)ESCON I/O
Interface Physical Layer (SA23-0394)Fiber Optic Cleaning Procedures
(SY27-2604)Fibre Channel Connection (FICON) I/O Interface Physical Layer
(SA24-7172)Maintenance Information for Fiber Optic Links (SY27-2597)Planning
for Fiber Optic Links (GA23-0367)z/Architecture Principles of Operation
(SA22-7832)z/Architecture Reference Summary (SA22-7871)

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
 wrote:

 I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section
 which stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following catagories:


 High-word facility

 Interlocked-access facility

 Load/Store on condition facility

 Distinct operands facility

 Integer to/from floating point conversions

 PER zero address detect

 Decimal floating point quantum exceptions

 New crypto functions and modes

 Virtual architectural level

 Non-quiescing SSKe

 Anybody know if a new PoPS documenting these exists anywhere?
 John McKown
 Systems Engineer IV
 IT

 Administrative Services Group

 HealthMarkets(r)

 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell
 john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or
 proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please
 contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original
 message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and
 issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake
 Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of
 TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM


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Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread Stan Weyman
   POPS for the Z196 is not there yet.  Just a handful there now (CHPID
Mapping, Install Manual, PS/SM Guide, etc


Stan Weyman 
Senior Software Engineer - zSeries
EMC Corporation
176 South Street
Hopkinton MA 01748
weyman_s...@emc.com
Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966
People think computers will keep them from making mistakes.  They're
wrong.  With computers you just make mistakes faster...

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

According to the product announcement:

The following publications will be available at planned availability in
the
*Library* section of Resource Link:
Application Programming Interfaces for Java (API-JAVA)Application
Programming Interfaces (SB10-7030)Capacity on Demand User's Guide
(SC28-2605)Common Information Model (CIM) Management Interface
(SB10-7154)Hardware
Management Console Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6895)Parts Catalog
(GC28-6898)SCSI IPL - Machine Loader Messages (SC28-6839)Service Guide
for
HMCs and SEs (GC28-6861)Stand-Alone IOCP User's Guide (SB10-7152)Support
Element Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6896)OSA-Express Customer's
Guide
and Reference (SA22-7935)OSA-Express3 Integrated Console Controller
Dual-Port User's Guide (SC23-2266)Coupling Links I/O Interface Physical
Layer (SA23-0395)ESCON and FICON CTC Reference (SB10-7034)ESCON I/O
Interface Physical Layer (SA23-0394)Fiber Optic Cleaning Procedures
(SY27-2604)Fibre Channel Connection (FICON) I/O Interface Physical Layer
(SA24-7172)Maintenance Information for Fiber Optic Links
(SY27-2597)Planning
for Fiber Optic Links (GA23-0367)z/Architecture Principles of Operation
(SA22-7832)z/Architecture Reference Summary (SA22-7871)

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
 wrote:

 I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section
 which stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following
catagories:


 High-word facility

 Interlocked-access facility

 Load/Store on condition facility

 Distinct operands facility

 Integer to/from floating point conversions

 PER zero address detect

 Decimal floating point quantum exceptions

 New crypto functions and modes

 Virtual architectural level

 Non-quiescing SSKe

 Anybody know if a new PoPS documenting these exists anywhere?
 John McKown
 Systems Engineer IV
 IT

 Administrative Services Group

 HealthMarkets(r)

 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell
 john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential
or
 proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please
 contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the
original
 message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten
and
 issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The
Chesapeake
 Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of
 TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM


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Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread McKown, John
I was really excited by the conditional load/store which I guess is similar 
to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they will combine a 
compare and load/store or do a load/store based on the existing CC from a 
previous instruction. I remember a RISC processor of some sort where every 
instruction was conditional. On the z, that would cost 4 bits per instruction 
if the mask were encoded like in a branch. I wonder how that would affect 
efficiency and pipelining?


--
John McKown 
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

HealthMarkets(r)

9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
(817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

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insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance 
Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The 
MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM

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Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
I was picturing perhaps something more like a CS.

Charles

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:02 AM
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Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

I was really excited by the conditional load/store which I guess is
similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they will
combine a compare and load/store or do a load/store based on the existing
CC from a previous instruction. 

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Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip---
I was really excited by the conditional load/store which I guess is 
similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they 
will combine a compare and load/store or do a load/store based on the 
existing CC from a previous instruction. I remember a RISC processor of 
some sort where every instruction was conditional. On the z, that would 
cost 4 bits per instruction if the mask were encoded like in a branch. I 
wonder how that would affect efficiency and pipelining?

---unsnip--
I don't care who calls it what, but PLEASE, ANYONE, send me a copy of 
the PoPs manual as a E-Mail ttachment as soon as you can get a grip on 
it. I'm stuck in a dessert here, with very poor access to anything.  :-(


Rick

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