AW: Re: Would SHARE kindly kick IBM in the ass for what the've done with their web content?

2018-06-27 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Hello Harry,thank you very much for you response, and especially for picking 
this up.
I know the subject I chose was a bit harshly formulated, but I did this on 
purpose. I was hoping that it would get things going, and it did. I'm grateful.

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AW: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)

2018-06-27 Thread Peter Hunkeler
ROTFLOL. This is ridiculous, IBM! Case b) below is an intra-page reference; 
they don't get even this most basic of HTML right.


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>b)  Redisplays the same page: 
>https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download?OpenDocument#DGW



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Re: Would SHARE kindly kick IBM in the ass for what the've done with their web content?

2018-06-27 Thread A. Harry Williams
Dear Peter
  I apologize for not responding sooner to your plea for help, but I do want to 
publicly respond on behalf of SHARE.

SHARE is a community of people representing users of enterprise technology.  As 
such, we regularly participate in discussions with various vendors in the Z 
ecosystem to influence the ability of those within the ecosystem to accomplish 
their business objectives, and that includes regular conversations with IBM.  
We do often find that open, frank conversations in private achieves more than 
ass-kicking in public so our response may be quieter.  Because of you and 
others, we are aware of the situation with z/OS 2.1 documentation and others 
that are at risk.

For the information of IBM-MAIN readers, several members of the SHARE community 
have been actively engaging IBM on this issue for some weeks now, through a 
variety of formal as well as informal channels.  As those efforts continue, 
please be assured that SHARE’s leadership is well aware of the concern and 
stands ready to assist as appropriate.

SHARE is always willing to listen in order to determine if there is a role that 
we can and should play to solve a problem that is impacting the ecosystem, 
regardless if someone is a Member of SHARE.  The best way to reach out to  us 
to start those conversations is via email to  shar...@share.org

A. Harry Williams
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Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)

2018-06-27 Thread Feller, Paul
I ran into an issue this weekend looking for a z/OS 2.2 manual.  What happened 
was when I selected a link to a 2.2 manual I got a 2.1 manual.  With some 
hunting I was able to find the 2.2 version of the manual.

I reported this issue to the "feedback" link over the weekend.  When I was 
asked "How likely are you to recommend the ibm.com website to a colleague or 
business partner?" I gave it a 0 (zero).  I'm not going to recommend something 
that is broken.


Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:05 PM
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Subject: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)

This seems to be an exact duplicate of the problem repaired a couple of weeks 
ago!


https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www-2D304.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zosInternetLibrary-3FOpenDocument=DwIFAg=9g4MJkl2VjLjS6R4ei18BA=eUhu3PeeWy6RTndlJVKembFjFsvwCa8eeU_gm45NyOc=WeBzk67HDzbrSL1pq4yZsym0yD4vV0ug_LSnOE0ggMY=TXBewknfxUJkrkzg9dgCjYk7CYToJWvWW_Yz0gvCJ-U=

Select "Download Books in PDF Format" for z/OS 2.2. Displays URL below:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www-2D304.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zosv2r2-2Dpdf-2Ddownload-3FOpenDocument=DwIFAg=9g4MJkl2VjLjS6R4ei18BA=eUhu3PeeWy6RTndlJVKembFjFsvwCa8eeU_gm45NyOc=WeBzk67HDzbrSL1pq4yZsym0yD4vV0ug_LSnOE0ggMY=93wrbTwQSIQ6dlJXBvdcjkSPSKgkwADnSdyG0wjRl4Q=

Select anything from the selections displayed will show:


a)   HTTP 404 error message

b)  Redisplays the same page: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www-2D304.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zosv2r2-2Dpdf-2Ddownload-3FOpenDocument-23DGW=DwIFAg=9g4MJkl2VjLjS6R4ei18BA=eUhu3PeeWy6RTndlJVKembFjFsvwCa8eeU_gm45NyOc=WeBzk67HDzbrSL1pq4yZsym0yD4vV0ug_LSnOE0ggMY=eKrj2mw7EwztauE4_iZgqzHRAIZiAR4exuRDOdloui0=

I did not do as exhaustive of a check for z/OS 2.3 and z/OS 2.1

Selecting z/OS2.1 from the initial page returns http 404 message Selecting z/OS 
2.3 seems to work.


How many times is IBM going to repeat the same mistake?

C'mon IBM. Lets get it together!


Think!
"If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have the time to do it 
over?"  - John Wooden


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z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)

2018-06-27 Thread Allan Staller
This seems to be an exact duplicate of the problem repaired a couple of weeks 
ago!


https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary?OpenDocument

Select "Download Books in PDF Format" for z/OS 2.2. Displays URL below:

https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download?OpenDocument

Select anything from the selections displayed will show:


a)   HTTP 404 error message

b)  Redisplays the same page: 
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download?OpenDocument#DGW

I did not do as exhaustive of a check for z/OS 2.3 and z/OS 2.1

Selecting z/OS2.1 from the initial page returns http 404 message
Selecting z/OS 2.3 seems to work.


How many times is IBM going to repeat the same mistake?

C'mon IBM. Lets get it together!


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Re: Two new RFE's to consider supporting

2018-06-27 Thread Hobart Spitz
Mouse selection exists.  Configure your mouse to send CUR SEL, which
emulates a light-pen press.  The panel needs to make the field
light-pen/CUR SEL compatible.

We did this in the early 80s, writing an in-house emulator, before
emulators were available.

OREXXMan
JCL is the buggy whip of 21st century computing.  Stabilize it.
Put Pipelines in the z/OS base.  Would you rather process data one
character at a time (Unix/C style), or one record at a time?
IBM has been looking for an HLL for program products; REXX is that language.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Frank Swarbrick <
frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote:

> I've been utilizing this new "point and shoot" feature in SDSF for about a
> week now.  I like it, but its not perfect, for reasons others have
> mentioned.
>
> In this particular case it seems to me what would be ideal is if the
> feature did not require the cursor to be placed within the JOBNAME column.
> Rather, it seems to me that:
> - If the cursor is anywhere in a particular row,
> - and the NP column for that row is "empty",
> - then "pressing enter" would have the same action as if the NP column had
> '?' entered in to it.
>
> Can't think of anything that would break, but who knows.  I believe it
> would eliminate any need to turn on the ISPF "Tab to point-and-shoot
> fields" option.  Basically, if not using a mouse, you could simply
> "newline" to the NP column on the desired line (without having to worry
> about "tabable" column headers) and press enter.
>
> I have no idea if this would address the actual reason the RFE was opened.
>
> Frank
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Jesse 1 Robinson 
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 11:08 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Two new RFE's to consider supporting
>
> I voted for the PAS RFE as a user, not considering what I know--or don't
> know--about the underlying technology. A particular ISV product some time
> ago changed a screen to create exactly what Lionel is complaining about. A
> column title on a PDS member list was suddenly tabbable, 'capturing' the
> cursor on its way to the first member entry. I complained and got the
> answer that some customers wanted this behavior so they could (re)sort the
> list based on that column. My objection was that 99% of the time a(ny) user
> wants to select a member entry, not sort the list. ISV gave me some kind of
> fix.
>
> I recently started a thread here on the new default behavior of SDSF in
> z/OS 2.3. PAS, if it's useful at all, should be controllable by the user. I
> question the value of PAS if only because it interrupts the 'finger flow'
> of an application. You have to keep a wary eye peeled on the screen all the
> time to know where you're at. That might be fine for a first-time or
> occasional user, but it compromises productivity for the experienced user.
> Which most of us are.
>
> .
> .
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 9:10 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: Two new RFE's to consider supporting
>
> Given that ISPF already supports point and shoot and that IBM has no
> control over 3rd party 3270 simulators and TN3270 clients, you'll need a
> strong business case. The only solution I know of within the existing 3270
> protocol is a zero-width field.
>
>
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>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:08 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Two new RFE's to consider supporting
>
> Please consider supporting these RFE's that I just submitted:
>
> ISPF Point and Shoot Protected Fields
>
> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1eSaRV5UJ3V1J9lFuWduNMNEXKwsjE
> r0nnYLCdtANa5wcGIytP_p89VwxV76dUYujSzZGvsssoum5dfWf
> 031TCGUtebzzpwdlkSgZJnaqbpOkVLJas5jtys5H1gU8JRFNOD2vMXd3U8ab
> HHyUJFosa64XBfNSgGc5MvffGa_1ZfKyWEpmQAA3kv0sNVrx-whBQbW89l_3pWtg15_
> 7MBLqVtWvke6na3t-Tk6vOswu28yUE4IUe2koNEA8oyONAN
> QER39qJALUqHMLIzs58oysAkIsJcmb1ccODLmdnzKY2gXS9eVRancgDDeqgV
> BCArpyN5npMA64aVH_B47XdVoSdSV7DtHk5UyIdPlCkMjOI6
> 9Dv8kpj0u74ruw1jKi-4U9/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fdeveloperworks%2Frfe%
> 2Fexecute%3Fuse_case%3DviewRfe%26CR_ID%3D121576
>
> And
>
> Improve ISPF 3.17 by allowing CD on the command line
>
> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1xtqTd4IbEpSIeq1S0zeI1IMPcAcWs
> FuqmZWHpViLukOiAtsG1u7lb2OGbEuJwHffWY-3ICATc1LstgliNG5YJwm_ehvRmlvFVRjp1_
> ELkgd2iFLph4vBOuNp9wHVtL3RKyceFMRN7yre-njqs_Cp5ejI7zvJhlJ9KQNaY5Uf-
> 3lQTeIfIugyV8IIgCZR8TlawkDi4qZiF7y_zgKvvN0SxF_
> 

Re: IOEZ00793E Error=111 reason=EF016015 received while attempting to convert directory / to version 5 format

2018-06-27 Thread Steely.Mark
zFS Thu Jan 26 14:45:58 EST 2017
Description: SAF CKACC returned error.  

Action: The user did not have the correct permission on the object for the  
operation requested. Change the permissions on the object or have a user that   
is authorized execute the operation.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: IOEZ00793E Error=111 reason=EF016015 received while attempting to 
convert directory / to version 5 format

On 6/27/2018 12:01 PM, Jantje. wrote:
> Dear Listers,
> 
> Can anyone please point me to some documentation where the error code and/or 
> reason code for the above error message is?
> 
> I am converting directories in a zFS to version 1.5 and for some directories 
> this is not working. I get the above error message, but the manual says only:
> 
> IOEZ00793E   Error=ReturnCode reason=ReasonCode received while attempting to 
> convert directory name to version 5 format

TSO BPXMTEXT EF016015.  If that doesn't work, run it directly from 
SYS1.SBPXEXEC or whatever name you call that dataset.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: IOEZ00793E Error=111 reason=EF016015 received while attempting to convert directory / to version 5 format

2018-06-27 Thread Tom Conley

On 6/27/2018 12:01 PM, Jantje. wrote:

Dear Listers,

Can anyone please point me to some documentation where the error code and/or 
reason code for the above error message is?

I am converting directories in a zFS to version 1.5 and for some directories 
this is not working. I get the above error message, but the manual says only:

IOEZ00793E   Error=ReturnCode reason=ReasonCode received while attempting to 
convert directory name to version 5 format


TSO BPXMTEXT EF016015.  If that doesn't work, run it directly from 
SYS1.SBPXEXEC or whatever name you call that dataset.


Regards,
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IOEZ00793E Error=111 reason=EF016015 received while attempting to convert directory / to version 5 format

2018-06-27 Thread Jantje.
Dear Listers,

Can anyone please point me to some documentation where the error code and/or 
reason code for the above error message is?

I am converting directories in a zFS to version 1.5 and for some directories 
this is not working. I get the above error message, but the manual says only:

IOEZ00793E   Error=ReturnCode reason=ReasonCode received while attempting to 
convert directory name to version 5 format
Explanation
The directory failed to convert to version 5 format.

ReturnCode
The error code.
ReasonCode
The reason code.
name
The directory name.
System action
The program continues.

Severity
svc_c_sev_error

Administrator Response
Correct the error and try again.


OK, great. :-( what is the error???

Thanks and very best regards,

Jantje.

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Re: ICSF and millions of RSA keys

2018-06-27 Thread Jousma, David
If you have the ability, I'd open a Q PMR with IBM crypto support.  I suspect 
it can handle it, but doesn't hurt to ask.  For crypto, years ago we were 
running into catalog contention with ICSF accessing the KDS datasets.   We 
created new dedicated usercat/alias and have been fine ever since.   

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Usually ICSF use the key kept in its repositories - CKDS for symmetric keys and 
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of the mainframe).
Some questions and doubts:
1. Is it good idea to have millions of keys in PKDS? Would it be a problem for 
ICSF? VSAM limits seem to be not a problem, but maybe ICSF have some 
bottlenecks or limitations.
2. Can I keep the keys out of PKDS, for example in DB2 table? Note, we talk 
about public key, so there is no big reason to keep it secret.
For example: tell ICSF to check msg using given key value, instead of given key 
label. I remeber such solution is feasible for symmetric keys (the key was 
encrypted using Master Key).
3. What about performance? While DB2 table can be buffered, what about PKDS? 
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ICSF and millions of RSA keys

2018-06-27 Thread R.S.
Usually ICSF use the key kept in its repositories - CKDS for symmetric 
keys and PKDS for assymetric cryptography.
There is a plan to use several millions of public keys (private key 
reside out of the mainframe).

Some questions and doubts:
1. Is it good idea to have millions of keys in PKDS? Would it be a 
problem for ICSF? VSAM limits seem to be not a problem, but maybe ICSF 
have some bottlenecks or limitations.
2. Can I keep the keys out of PKDS, for example in DB2 table? Note, we 
talk about public key, so there is no big reason to keep it secret.
For example: tell ICSF to check msg using given key value, instead of 
given key label. I remeber such solution is feasible for symmetric keys 
(the key was encrypted using Master Key).
3. What about performance? While DB2 table can be buffered, what about 
PKDS? Does it require I/O for every key use?


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Re: Eternal WAIT on un-waited ECB

2018-06-27 Thread Peter Relson
You would not use pause/release for its individual-call performance 
characteristics, but for other things.

For example, pause/release is not subject to the cross-memory post case 
where the interface's being an "ASCB address" leaves things subject to 
question if the target terminates and then a new space gets that same ASCB 
address (hence, see the IEAMSXMP macro, where that service wrapper 
basically schedules an SRB to do a non-XM post, after having validated the 
target, since that service utilizes an stoken/ttoken rather than ASCB 
address for identification).

Also, pause/release does not use the local lock, so it could help avoid 
local lock contention which can significantly degrade performance. But it 
is surely true that (with enough concurrent use) pause/release could run 
into its own lock contention problems on the lock(s) that it does use.

It is certainly true that wait/post will be around for the life of the 
operating system, regardless of what other options are provided.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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