Re: z/VM guest with old z/OS

2020-07-31 Thread Brian Westerman
Jim,

I beg to differ, he wants to run things on the z12 (I assume either an ec12 or 
bc12).  z/OS lifecycle extensions for 1.10 on the z12 (which was offered at the 
z12 announcement and updated several times afterwards) certainly isn't going to 
alter the z12 hardware in any way, and I doubt that the ptfs installed to 1.10 
for lifecycle are going to change DAT in any significant way, but maybe they 
do.  In any case, they were (and still are I think) available, if you can do it 
with the extensions then you can do it with z/VM as well.

(this is from the 2013 IBM presentation slide #6)
• zEC12 and zBC12 capabilities differ depending on z/OS release
– Toleration support provided on z/OS V1.10 and z/OS V1.11
• The Lifecycle Extension for z/OS V1.10 or z/OS V1.11 is required to acquire 
toleration PTFs and for support
– Exploitation support provided on z/OS V1.12 and higher
• z/OS V1.12
– Exploitation of selected functions
• z/OS V1.13
– Exploitation of most functions
• z/OS V2.1
– Full exploitation in base

also (from the  technical introduction)

Operating systems Use of some features might require the latest releases. The 
following operating systems are supported by the zEC12 and zBC12:
z/OS Version 2 Release 1
z/OS Version 1 Release 13 with PTFs
z/OS Version 1 Release 12 with PTFs
z/OS Version 1 Release 11 with the IBM Lifecycle Extension with PTFs
z/OS Version 1 Release 10 with the IBM Lifecycle Extension with PTFs
z/VM Version 6 Release 3 with PTFs
z/VM Version 6 Release 2 with PTFs
z/VM Version 5 Release 4 with PTFs
z/VSE Version 4 Release 3 or later, with PTFs


Brian

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Re: RMF with regards to VM/ESA or zVM

2020-07-31 Thread Steve Beaver
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> On Jul 31, 2020, at 17:13, Karl Severson 
> <03182344870a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> Companies with DoD government contracts must utilize computer systems that 
> can pass Risk Management Framework (RMF) standards. Scripts have been written 
> to test Windows and Linux operating systems but I know of none that have been 
> written to test zVM or its predecessor VM/ESA. It probably doesn't matter as 
> I'm pretty sure that if the standards are the same as for the other two OSes, 
> zVM wouldn't pass anyway, at least not on its own.
> 
> What are some of these standards? Password lengths 14 or more characters, 
> virus detection software installed and operational, file level security, etc. 
> In other words, everything a Windows 10 or RHEL 6.8 system can handle. Does 
> anyone here in IBM land running zVM or its predecessor support systems that 
> can handle RMF standards? If so, what did it take to get them approved?
> 
> Thanks in advance and sorry if this question has been asked recently.
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
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RMF with regards to VM/ESA or zVM

2020-07-31 Thread Karl Severson
Companies with DoD government contracts must utilize computer systems that can 
pass Risk Management Framework (RMF) standards. Scripts have been written to 
test Windows and Linux operating systems but I know of none that have been 
written to test zVM or its predecessor VM/ESA. It probably doesn't matter as 
I'm pretty sure that if the standards are the same as for the other two OSes, 
zVM wouldn't pass anyway, at least not on its own.

What are some of these standards? Password lengths 14 or more characters, virus 
detection software installed and operational, file level security, etc. In 
other words, everything a Windows 10 or RHEL 6.8 system can handle. Does anyone 
here in IBM land running zVM or its predecessor support systems that can handle 
RMF standards? If so, what did it take to get them approved?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this question has been asked recently.

Karl



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Re: FSUM7351 Not Found for -Xshareclasses

2020-07-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
Finally figured out the issue

Somewhere the /service was in the /etc/profile

This uss file system is part of SMP/e and  is only in our sandbox SMP/e
environment

Once /etc/profile was changed to the actual path; all is well now


Lizette



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Case sensitivity?
Did you try to run Java or java?

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Subject: FSUM7351 Not Found for -Xshareclasses

I am trying to determine if we can execute on OMVS in z/OS

 

Java -Xshareclasses:listAllCaches

 

 

I have done with and without su



I have updated my  .profile to include the java path

 

So I am wondering if this is available?  

 

If it is - what I need to do to execute the function

 

 

Thank you 

 

Lizette


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Re: IDCAMS Alter volumeentry not working

2020-07-31 Thread Tom Conley

On 7/31/2020 11:58 AM, Gormley, Steve wrote:

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When dealing with volume entries in IDCAMS I believe you have to add a 'V' in 
front of the volser name  - VDS0001

Steve




Steve is correct.  You need to do a LISTCAT VOLENT(VVDS001) ALL to get 
the result.


Regards,
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Re: ISPF development question

2020-07-31 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Getting in to TEST mode has been discussed. The easiest way is going to Option 
7. That turns TEST most on without requiring you exit/re-enter ISPF. In TEST 
mode, ISPF elements are reread from DASD on each call. This is not very 
efficient for ordinary usage but greatly facilitates dialog development. So how 
do you return to 'normal' processing? In Option 0 ISPF Settings, you have these 
options:

Enter "/" to select option   
   Command line at bottom
   Panel display CUA mode
   Long message in pop-up
   Tab to action bar choices 
   Tab to point-and-shoot fields 
   Restore TEST/TRACE options
   Session Manager mode  
   Jump from leader dots 
   Edit PRINTDS Command  
   Always show split line
   Enable EURO sign

The item Restore TEST/TRACE options controls what happens after you're done 
(for now) with dialog testing. If this item is selected, exiting Option 7 puts 
you back in normal mode, whereby elements are read only once and retained in 
memory. If you leave this item blank, TEST mode persists until you exit ISPF.   
   

.
.
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Yes, there is. Run in TEST mode.

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> Hi,
>
> I was told to develop an ISPF application.
> It's been a long time since I did this, so I'm having some issues.
>
> Whenever I change a panel definition, I have to logoff and logon for 
> the updated definition to show.
> Is there a way to have ISPF use the updated definition without logging 
> off and on.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gadi

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Re: ISPF development question

2020-07-31 Thread Edward Finnell
That was my argument three decades ago. There was a tuning tip that even tho 
there was no Class the directory would be loaded and that was enough of an edge 
to make it happen. With today's DASD it might be superfluous.  

In a message dated 7/31/2020 10:47:20 AM Central Standard Time, 
pinnc...@rochester.rr.com writes:
How can you put Messages and Panels in VLF?  There's no class for ISPF 
to read them.

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Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
> And you probably always got a 13E abend message on the console.

No, never in my recollection. None yesterday with all of my testing. But I
do see there is a SLIP set for S13E so perhaps that is suppressing it.

> The normal thing to do is to tell the subtask to end

That would indeed be a wonderful design but I have no control over the logic
of the subtask, and it does not include a "tell me to end" interface.

Charles


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And you probably always got a 13E abend message on the console. :) The
normal thing to do is to tell the subtask to end (usually by posting
an ECB the subtask can wait on) and when the ATTACH ECB is posted,
the parent wakes up and issues DETACH to clean up.

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Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Don Poitras
And you probably always got a 13E abend message on the console. :) The
normal thing to do is to tell the subtask to end (usually by posting
an ECB the subtask can wait on) and when the ATTACH ECB is posted,
the parent wakes up and issues DETACH to clean up.

In article <02d201d66750$066475e0$132d61a0$@mcn.org> you wrote:
> I know for a fact that DETACH causes (via some route) the ECB to be posted.
> I always WAIT on the ATTACH ECB and it always works.

> Whether that WAIT is superfluous or not is something I have no way of
> testing.

> I believe you (of course!) but the WAIT is harmless at worst so I think I
> will leave it in place.

> Charles


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> If I remember correctly, DETACH of a subtask does not return to the 
> invoker until that task has completely terminated (and I mean completely 
> -- all resmgrs have run, the TCB is freemained). If so, there is no reason 
> to have an ECB to wait upon. In fact I think the ATTACH ECB is not even 
> used once DETACH is done. (I'm hoping that my thought does not pertain 
> only to the branch-entry DETACH that RTM does, but also pertains to the 
> SVC-entry DETACH that you would be doing.)

> If you want your recovery to
> -- end the task
> -- upon end, attach a new task
> then
> -- detach
> -- attach

> Peter Relson
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Re: FSUM7351 Not Found for -Xshareclasses

2020-07-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
So I have other java commands in my .profile that do work -  the following is 
extracted from my .profile settings

echo starting lizettes profile 
ulimit -a 
alias quit="exit" 
export 
CEE_RUNOPTS="TRAP(OFF,NOSPIE),RPTSTG,RPTOPTS,MSGFILE(CEEMSG),STACK(512K,128K)" 
export IBM_JAVA_OPTIONS=-Xms8m 
export IBM_JAVA_OPTIONS="-Xmx128m "$IBM_JAVA_OPTIONS 
export IJO=-Xms8m 
export IJO="-Xmx128m "$IJO 
export jreoptions="-Xmx128m " 
java -Xifa:off -version 
alias ls="ls -l" 
alias la="ls " 
alias quit="exit" 
if test $TERM = "dumb" 
then 
export EDITOR=oedit 
alias less="obrowse" 
alias ob="obrowse" 
alias oe="oedit" 
echo logic says terminal=$TERM and so we will use oedit 
else



No errors other than the FSUM 

I have tried various configurations with java  JAVA and inbetween () 

Since I am not familiar with this specific function in java - I was not sure if 
it was available , or if I need special permissions, or where I might look

Lizette 

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Case sensitivity?
Did you try to run Java or java?

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Subject: FSUM7351 Not Found for -Xshareclasses

I am trying to determine if we can execute on OMVS in z/OS

 

Java -Xshareclasses:listAllCaches

 

 

I have done with and without su



I have updated my  .profile to include the java path

 

So I am wondering if this is available?  

 

If it is - what I need to do to execute the function

 

 

Thank you 

 

Lizette


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Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: FSUM7351 Not Found for -Xshareclasses

2020-07-31 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Change Java to java -

JWHI00V:/u/jwhi00v:>java -Xshareclasses:listAllCaches
JVMSHRC005I No shared class caches available
JWHI00V:/u/jwhi00v:>

Jerry Whitteridge
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I am trying to determine if we can execute on OMVS in z/OS



Java -Xshareclasses:listAllCaches





I have done with and without su



I have updated my  .profile to include the java path



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If it is - what I need to do to execute the function





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Re: IDCAMS Alter volumeentry not working

2020-07-31 Thread Mark Jacobs
Thanks. That was it.

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> When dealing with volume entries in IDCAMS I believe you have to add a 'V' in 
> front of the volser name - VDS0001
>
> Steve
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> We have an MTL that's not under RMM control. The MTL internally scratches 
> tapes that have reached their expiration date daily, but the entries in the 
> volcat are showing them as private. When I attempt to manually alter them to 
> scratch status, IDCAMS isn't liking either format of the command (that I've 
> read in the FM). What am I doing wrong?
>
> ALTER DS0001 VOLUMEENTRY USEATTRIBUTE(SCRATCH) LIBRARYNAME(DEVLVTL) IDC3012I 
> ENTRY DS0001 NOT FOUND IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON 
> CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42 IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12
>
> ALTER VOLUMEENTRY(DS0001) USEATTRIBUTE(SCRATCH) LIBRARYNAME(DEVLVTL) IDC3203I 
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Re: FSUM7351 Not Found for -Xshareclasses

2020-07-31 Thread Ray Pearce
Case sensitivity?
Did you try to run Java or java?

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Subject: FSUM7351 Not Found for -Xshareclasses

I am trying to determine if we can execute on OMVS in z/OS

 

Java -Xshareclasses:listAllCaches

 

 

I have done with and without su



I have updated my  .profile to include the java path

 

So I am wondering if this is available?  

 

If it is - what I need to do to execute the function

 

 

Thank you 

 

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Re: IDCAMS Alter volumeentry not working

2020-07-31 Thread Gormley, Steve
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When dealing with volume entries in IDCAMS I believe you have to add a 'V' in 
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Steve


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Subject: IDCAMS Alter volumeentry not working

We have an MTL that's not under RMM control. The MTL internally scratches tapes 
that have reached their expiration date daily, but the entries in the volcat 
are showing them as private. When I attempt to manually alter them to scratch 
status, IDCAMS isn't liking either format of the command (that I've read in the 
FM). What am I doing wrong?

ALTER DS0001 VOLUMEENTRY USEATTRIBUTE(SCRATCH) LIBRARYNAME(DEVLVTL) IDC3012I 
ENTRY DS0001 NOT FOUND IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON CODE 
IS IGG0CLEG-42 IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

ALTER VOLUMEENTRY(DS0001) USEATTRIBUTE(SCRATCH) LIBRARYNAME(DEVLVTL) IDC3203I 
ITEM 'VOLUMEENTRY(DS0001)' DOES NOT ADHERE TO RESTRICTIONS IDC3202I ABOVE TEXT 
BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND. CONDITION CODE IS 12

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Re: Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
Well, shoot. I realized as I was quoting it that it was not the latest and
greatest, but so little changes in the existing interfaces that I did not
worry about it.

I tend to work always from the doc for the oldest release of the OS that
*we* support, so I don't get seduced by some new feature that is not yet
available to me. That is currently V2R1.

So -- just curiosity, does not matter to me at this juncture -- an ESTAI
routine passed once on a single ATTACH could potentially get driven multiple
times as an ABEND of the parent task was propagated to various daughter
tasks?

Charles


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any recovery routines defined for the originating task are propagated to 
the new Task"


It's a good idea to look at the current level of the books for things like 
that, since that's where corrections (if any) are likely to show up.

I saw Charles' reference in z/OS 2.2 KC but in z/OS 2.4 it has been 
improved to: "any STAI or ESTAI recovery routines defined for the attached 
task are automatically propagated to its subtasks."

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FSUM7351 Not Found for -Xshareclasses

2020-07-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am trying to determine if we can execute on OMVS in z/OS

 

Java -Xshareclasses:listAllCaches

 

 

I have done with and without su



I have updated my  .profile to include the java path

 

So I am wondering if this is available?  

 

If it is - what I need to do to execute the function

 

 

Thank you 

 

Lizette


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Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
I know for a fact that DETACH causes (via some route) the ECB to be posted.
I always WAIT on the ATTACH ECB and it always works.

Whether that WAIT is superfluous or not is something I have no way of
testing.

I believe you (of course!) but the WAIT is harmless at worst so I think I
will leave it in place.

Charles


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Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

If I remember correctly, DETACH of a subtask does not return to the 
invoker until that task has completely terminated (and I mean completely 
-- all resmgrs have run, the TCB is freemained). If so, there is no reason 
to have an ECB to wait upon. In fact I think the ATTACH ECB is not even 
used once DETACH is done. (I'm hoping that my thought does not pertain 
only to the branch-entry DETACH that RTM does, but also pertains to the 
SVC-entry DETACH that you would be doing.)

If you want your recovery to
-- end the task
-- upon end, attach a new task
then
-- detach
-- attach

Peter Relson
z/OS Core TEchnology Design


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Re: z/VM guest with old z/OS

2020-07-31 Thread Jim Mulder
  Prior to z/OS 1.12, z/OS IPL uses Dynamic Address Translation while 
still in 
ESA/390 mode.  z14  and later machines do not do ESA/390 DAT.  So the 
oldest
z/OS that could possibly IPL on a z14 or later machine would be z/OS 1.12.
Running under z/VM would make no difference in this regard. 

Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp. 
Poughkeepsie NY

"IBM Mainframe Discussion List"  wrote on 
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> 
> I don't know about z/VM 5.3, but running z/OS 1.10 under z/VM on a 
> z13 and z14 works (and probably also on a z15), so it's likely that 
> it will work on a z12.



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IDCAMS Alter volumeentry not working

2020-07-31 Thread Mark Jacobs
We have an MTL that's not under RMM control. The MTL internally scratches tapes 
that have reached their expiration date daily, but the entries in the volcat 
are showing them as private. When I attempt to manually alter them to scratch 
status, IDCAMS isn't liking either format of the command (that I've read in the 
FM). What am I doing wrong?

ALTER DS0001 VOLUMEENTRY USEATTRIBUTE(SCRATCH) LIBRARYNAME(DEVLVTL)
IDC3012I ENTRY DS0001 NOT FOUND
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

ALTER VOLUMEENTRY(DS0001) USEATTRIBUTE(SCRATCH) LIBRARYNAME(DEVLVTL)
IDC3203I ITEM 'VOLUMEENTRY(DS0001)' DOES NOT ADHERE TO RESTRICTIONS
IDC3202I ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND. CONDITION CODE IS 12

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Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Peter Relson
If I remember correctly, DETACH of a subtask does not return to the 
invoker until that task has completely terminated (and I mean completely 
-- all resmgrs have run, the TCB is freemained). If so, there is no reason 
to have an ECB to wait upon. In fact I think the ATTACH ECB is not even 
used once DETACH is done. (I'm hoping that my thought does not pertain 
only to the branch-entry DETACH that RTM does, but also pertains to the 
SVC-entry DETACH that you would be doing.)

If you want your recovery to
-- end the task
-- upon end, attach a new task
then
-- detach
-- attach

Peter Relson
z/OS Core TEchnology Design


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Re: z13 Central Storage [EXTERNAL]

2020-07-31 Thread Feller, Paul
Don't you just hate when that happens. 

Thanks..

Paul Feller
GTS Mainframe Technical Support

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Well that didn't take long... the dreaded comma... 
Thanks much!

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Re: Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-07-31 Thread Peter Relson

any recovery routines defined for the originating task are propagated to 
the new Task"


It's a good idea to look at the current level of the books for things like 
that, since that's where corrections (if any) are likely to show up.

I saw Charles' reference in z/OS 2.2 KC but in z/OS 2.4 it has been 
improved to: "any STAI or ESTAI recovery routines defined for the attached 
task are automatically propagated to its subtasks."

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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Re: z/VM guest with old z/OS

2020-07-31 Thread Brian Westerman
I don't know about z/VM 5.3, but running z/OS 1.10 under z/VM on a z13 and z14 
works (and probably also on a z15), so it's likely that it will work on a z12.

Also, I believe you can still license the lifecycle extensions for 1.10 to run 
on the z12, but converting from 1.10 to 2.x is something you can do over a 
weekend for the OS part.  The other products (from non-IBM vendors) might (or 
might not) work without any changes (depending on the 'x' of the 2.x), but from 
1.10 to 2.3 is fairly straightforward, I have jumped from 1.10 to 2.1, 2.2 and 
2.3 many times without any major (and only a few minor) problems.  Going 
directly to 2.4 might be a little more difficult, depending on your software 
mix because of some changes, but if you are running 1.10 now in an LPAR all by 
itself, the conversion should be a snap.

Assuming you share dasd between your old system and the new z12, you can ease 
into the new OS's without impacting anything on the old ones.  If not, it can 
still be done really quickly, and if you need some pointer feel free to send me 
your questions either offline or here.

Brian

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