Re: CFRM

[kekronbekron]

Would a sham-plex help?
Do correct me if I'm wrong... it involves connectivity between LPARs and a 
bunch of CF structures (and a CF) to qualify for the 'sham' part.
Seems too much to take on just for what might have been a whim.

- KB

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On Friday, September 2nd, 2022 at 1:09 AM, Allan Staller 
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> I know of no reason you could not define the couple datasets, etc. but why?
> 
> By definition, a basic sysplex does not have access to a coupling faclility 
> (hence the base).
> Only when one gets to a parallel sysplex, doe the CFRM policy become relevant.
> 
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Re: SFTP question

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 12:11:07 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
>
>...  But I tended to avoid using a 3270
>OMVS connection on USS ...
> 
So flattery gets me nowhere?

>I didn't know you could do that with streams across ssh - pretty
>interesting!
>
>On 9/1/2022 9:06 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>>
>> How about:
>>  /bin/cp [options] "//'MVS.DATA.SET(MEMBER)'" | ssh -f Tom@Linux "cat 
>> >Linux.file"
>>
And I was wrong.  Perhaps:
/bin/cp [options] "//'MVS.DATA.SET(MEMBER)'" /dev/fd/1 |  # target for cp
iconv -f ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 |  # (optional) Undo EBCDIC->ASCII 
conversion.
sshTom@Linux "cat >Linux.file"  # "-f" is extraneous and harmful!

useful for copying directories and contents:
pax -w directory | ssh target "pax -r"  # or:
ssh source "pax -w" | pax -r

>> Or try  to get Purchasing to approve Co:Z.

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Re: CFRM

[Allan Staller]

Classification: Confidential

I know of no reason you could not define the couple datasets, etc. but why?

By definition,  a basic sysplex does not have access to a coupling faclility 
(hence the base).
Only when one gets to a parallel sysplex, doe the CFRM policy become relevant.


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Re: SFTP question

[Kirk Wolf]

That works if the target server allows for ssh shell logins.   Many are 
restricted to only sftp, which means that neither ssh remote command or scp 
will work.

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 07:33:57 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
> >...
> >But like you say (and if nothing has changed over the years), you need
> >to setup keys.  
> >
> Ssh-keygen makes it easy.  The keys are stored as text files.  It ought
> to be possible to Copy from a Vista OMVS window and Paste to
> a Linux xterm ssh window.
> 
> >And sftp only worked with USS files so an OCOPY or
> >similar was needed for z/OS datasets, and some temp USS space.
> >
> How about:
> /bin/cp [options] "//'MVS.DATA.SET(MEMBER)'" | ssh -f Tom@Linux "cat 
> >Linux.file"
> 
> Unconditional IBM-1047 -> ISO8859-1 conversion.  If you want it not to do 
> that, insert
> an iconv filter on the z/OS end.
> 
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Re: SFTP question

[Tom Brennan]

Yes, it's easy to copy/paste a text key using a terminal emulator and 
then vi or whatever on the target.  But I tended to avoid using a 3270 
OMVS connection on USS and instead almost always connected to the 
mainframe using SSH.  So in my case that would have been a PuTTy to 
PuTTy copy/paste, using the vi editor.


More often I'd use scp because I was most likely creating a new 
authorized_keys file on the target machine anyway.  In addition, running 
scp from the mainframe would test the IP connection, test the target id, 
and also ask me if it's ok to copy the target's host key into the 
mainframe known_hosts file.  Skipping that last item can cause some head 
scratching when you try to run a batch sftp.


You're far more advanced than me when it comes to stringing unix 
commands together, so let me look closer:


cp - copy the z/OS member I want to transfer to the data stream.

ssh - receive that data stream and connect to Tom@Linux and then issue 
the cat command with > that will take that data stream and poke it in 
Linux.file.


I didn't know you could do that with streams across ssh - pretty 
interesting!


On 9/1/2022 9:06 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 07:33:57 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:

...
But like you say (and if nothing has changed over the years), you need
to setup keys.


Ssh-keygen makes it easy.  The keys are stored as text files.  It ought
to be possible to Copy from a Vista OMVS window and Paste to
a Linux xterm ssh window.


And sftp only worked with USS files so an OCOPY or
similar was needed for z/OS datasets, and some temp USS space.


How about:
 /bin/cp [options] "//'MVS.DATA.SET(MEMBER)'" | ssh -f Tom@Linux "cat 
>Linux.file"

Unconditional IBM-1047 -> ISO8859-1 conversion.  If you want it not to do that, 
insert
an iconv filter on the z/OS end.

Or try  to get Purchasing to approve Co:Z.



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Re: ELAX DRAWDOWN??

[Steve Thompson]

Can't get to the website(s) the links point to for that from the 
client's systems. sigh.


But this is kind of confusing given the APAR hits I got for this, 
and them having problems with COBOL programs


Regards,
Steve Thompson

On 8/31/22 16:46, Sri h Kolusu wrote:

ELAX DRAWDOWN??  Any one heard of this or what it is?

Steve,

Perhaps Enterprise Software Management Tool (ESMT) for tracking your license 
draw-downs?

https://www.ibm.com/client-tools/esmt


Thanks,
Kolusu


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Re: ELAX DRAWDOWN??

[Steve Thompson]

I thought so, but, I didn't find manuals for it. Just APARs.

On 8/31/22 16:54, Joe Monk wrote:

Isnt ELAX IBM rational products?

Joe

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 9:04 AM Steve Thompson  wrote:


Any one heard of this or what it is?

I got asked about it and I've never heard of it, and it is
supposedly an IBM product and I can't find doc on it in an IBM site.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: CFRM

[Shelia Chalk]

Thanks for your help.

Shelia Chalk

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Good luck. I don't think it'll work. Based on this documentation you'll need a 
coupling facility structure to store the notepads, which implies parallel 
sysplex.

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> I had a request to setup xcf notepad for MFA application. It called for CFRM 
> dataset to setup. We don't have a CF, because we just run a basic sysplex 
> system.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> If you're running at least at the Monoplex level of sysplex support you can 
> define a CFRM couple dataset and use it, might even be able to create a 
> policy in it, but it'll never get used. Why do you want to?
> 
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Re: CFRM

[Mark Jacobs]

Good luck. I don't think it'll work. Based on this documentation you'll need a 
coupling facility structure to store the notepads, which implies parallel 
sysplex.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=pxnpsis-defining-xcf-note-pad-structures-in-cfrm-policy

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--- Original Message ---
On Thursday, September 1st, 2022 at 11:50 AM, Shelia Chalk 
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> I had a request to setup xcf notepad for MFA application. It called for CFRM 
> dataset to setup. We don't have a CF, because we just run a basic sysplex 
> system.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of 
> Mark Jacobs
> 
> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 10:33 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: CFRM
> 
> If you're running at least at the Monoplex level of sysplex support you can 
> define a CFRM couple dataset and use it, might even be able to create a 
> policy in it, but it'll never get used. Why do you want to?
> 
> Mark Jacobs
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> > Can I use CFRM with a BASIC sysplex?
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Re: CFRM

[Patrick Loftus]

The notepad structure itself would reside on a Coupling Facility, so there's
no possibility of creating or using that structure without a Coupling
Facility LPAR, regardless of CFRM policies or CFRM CDS datasets.


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Subject: Re: CFRM

I had a request to setup xcf notepad for MFA application. It called for CFRM
dataset to setup. We don't have a CF, because we just run a basic sysplex
system.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 10:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CFRM

If you're running at least at the Monoplex level of sysplex support you can
define a CFRM couple dataset and use it, might even be able to create a
policy in it, but it'll never get used. Why do you want to?

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Re: SFTP question

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 07:33:57 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
>...
>But like you say (and if nothing has changed over the years), you need
>to setup keys.  
>
Ssh-keygen makes it easy.  The keys are stored as text files.  It ought
to be possible to Copy from a Vista OMVS window and Paste to
a Linux xterm ssh window.

>And sftp only worked with USS files so an OCOPY or
>similar was needed for z/OS datasets, and some temp USS space.
>
How about:
/bin/cp [options] "//'MVS.DATA.SET(MEMBER)'" | ssh -f Tom@Linux "cat 
>Linux.file"

Unconditional IBM-1047 -> ISO8859-1 conversion.  If you want it not to do that, 
insert
an iconv filter on the z/OS end.

Or try  to get Purchasing to approve Co:Z.

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Re: CFRM

[Shelia Chalk]

I had a request to setup xcf notepad for MFA application. It called for CFRM 
dataset to setup. We don't have a CF, because we just run a basic sysplex 
system.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Mark Jacobs
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 10:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CFRM

If you're running at least at the Monoplex level of sysplex support you can 
define a CFRM couple dataset and use it, might even be able to create a policy 
in it, but it'll never get used. Why do you want to?

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Re: CFRM

[Mark Jacobs]

If you're running at least at the Monoplex level of sysplex support you can 
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in it, but it'll never get used. Why do you want to?

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> Can I use CFRM with a BASIC sysplex?
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Re: SFTP question

[Kirk Wolf]

Thanks for mentioning.
Here's an example:

//SFTPCONN EXEC PROC=SFTPPROC 
//SFTPIN DD *   
pwdsn="COZUSER.COZ.SAMPJCL(PW)" 
user=myuser
host=myhost 
lzopts="mode=text"
rdir="/app/data/"
rfile="remotefile.txt" 

. $script_dir/sftp_connect.sh  Nobody has mentioned Coz from https://coztoolkit.com
> 
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> --- Original Message ---
> On Thursday, September 1st, 2022 at 10:33 AM, Tom Brennan 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 9/1/2022 12:05 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> > 
> > > Might be possible with either BPXPATCH or BPXWUNIX. Set up your
> > > public-private keypairs on z/OS with ssh-keygen and copy the
> > > public key to Linux.
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, that's what I used to do. Something like this:
> > 
> > //SFTP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M,
> > // PARM='SH sftp -b sftpcmds targetid@targetserver'
> > 
> > But like you say (and if nothing has changed over the years), you need
> > to setup keys. And sftp only worked with USS files so an OCOPY or
> > similar was needed for z/OS datasets, and some temp USS space.
> > 
> > And I used to use scp too, because it would do the EBCDIC/ASCII
> > conversion for me.
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Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

[Art Gutowski]

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:01:37 +0100, Keith Gooding  wrote:

>Why would anyone use CBPDO + SMP/E to install z/OS ? (Not a rhetorical 
>question).
>
>Z/OSMF Serverpac installation is good but you may not want to use a Serverpac 
>to install a single product such as z/secure.

Would you take a sledgehammer to your walls, hang new drywall, mud, tape, sand, 
and prime every time you wanted to slap a new coat of paint on them?  

CBPDO is no more difficult for z/OS than it is for a product.  A z/OS order 
contains more data, so it takes a little longer to process.  The 
post-installation steps are the same, regardless of the method you choose.  The 
biggest thing ServerPac buys you over CBPDO, is that the SMP/E work is 
_largely_ done for you.  Obviously, if you're a new z/OS shop, you have to 
start somewhere, and ServerPac is likely the better option.  However, if you 
are an established shop with a well-defined cloning process (implying at least 
rudimentary JCL and SMP/E skills), ServerPac may be an over-engineered 
approach, and CBPDO is a feasible alternative.

Art Gutowski
Huntington National Bank

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CFRM

[Shelia Chalk]

Can I use CFRM with a BASIC sysplex?

Thanks
Shelia Chalk

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Re: SFTP question

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Nobody has mentioned Coz from https://coztoolkit.com




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On Thursday, September 1st, 2022 at 10:33 AM, Tom Brennan 
 wrote:


> On 9/1/2022 12:05 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> 
> > Might be possible with either BPXPATCH or BPXWUNIX. Set up your
> > public-private keypairs on z/OS with ssh-keygen and copy the
> > public key to Linux.
> 
> 
> Yes, that's what I used to do. Something like this:
> 
> //SFTP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M,
> // PARM='SH sftp -b sftpcmds targetid@targetserver'
> 
> But like you say (and if nothing has changed over the years), you need
> to setup keys. And sftp only worked with USS files so an OCOPY or
> similar was needed for z/OS datasets, and some temp USS space.
> 
> And I used to use scp too, because it would do the EBCDIC/ASCII
> conversion for me.
> 
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Re: SFTP question

[Tom Brennan]

On 9/1/2022 12:05 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


Might be possible with either BPXPATCH or BPXWUNIX.  Set up your
public-private keypairs on z/OS with ssh-keygen and copy the
public key to Linux.


Yes, that's what I used to do.  Something like this:

//SFTP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M,
// PARM='SH sftp -b sftpcmds targetid@targetserver'

But like you say (and if nothing has changed over the years), you need 
to setup keys.  And sftp only worked with USS files so an OCOPY or 
similar was needed for z/OS datasets, and some temp USS space.


And I used to use scp too, because it would do the EBCDIC/ASCII 
conversion for me.


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Re: SFTP question

[kekronbekron]

Whoops, thanks for educating me.

- KB

--- Original Message ---
On Thursday, September 1st, 2022 at 6:25 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
<042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:


> On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 10:29:09 +, kekronbekron wrote:
> 
> > I recently came across zdsfs 
> > (https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/linux-on-systems?topic=c-zdsfs-2).
> 
> ITYM https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/linux-on-systems?topic=c-zdsfs-2.
> 
> > Just from a brief look, it appears to provide direct access to zOS disks.
> > Will help avoid transfers and duplicate data.
> > DSFS might well be the child of zdsfs, just from the name.
> 
> Doesn't appear that way from the restrictions:
> 
> Attention:
> To avoid data inconsistencies, set the DASDs offline in z/OS before you mount 
> them in Linux.
> Through the zdsfs file system, the whole DASDs are accessible to Linux, but 
> the access is not controlled by z/OS auditing mechanisms.
> To avoid security problems, you might want to dedicate the z/OS DASDs only 
> for providing data for Linux.
> 
> Also, consider NFS.
> 
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Re: SFTP question

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 10:29:09 +, kekronbekron wrote:
>
>I recently came across zdsfs 
>(https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/linux-on-systems?topic=c-zdsfs-2).
>
ITYM .

>Just from a brief look, it appears to provide direct access to zOS disks.
>Will help avoid transfers and duplicate data.
>DSFS might well be the child of zdsfs, just from the name.
>
Doesn't appear that way from the restrictions:

Attention:
To avoid data inconsistencies, set the DASDs offline in z/OS before you 
mount them in Linux.
Through the zdsfs file system, the whole DASDs are accessible to Linux, but 
the access is not controlled by z/OS auditing mechanisms.
To avoid security problems, you might want to dedicate the z/OS DASDs only 
for providing data for Linux.

Also, consider NFS.

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Re: SFTP question

[kekronbekron]

Hi,

I recently came across zdsfs 
(https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/linux-on-systems?topic=c-zdsfs-2).
Just from a brief look, it appears to provide direct access to zOS disks.
Will help avoid transfers and duplicate data.
DSFS might well be the child of zdsfs, just from the name.

- KB

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On Thursday, September 1st, 2022 at 12:35 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
<042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:


> On 8/31/22 23:45:20, Peter wrote:
> 
> > Cross posted
> 
> Which groups? IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE?
> 
> > I am trying to send dataset to a Linux server which has a SFTP running on
> > it. Is it possible to connect the Linux servers SFTP using mainframe JCL to
> > put or get the file from Linux ?
> 
> 
> Might be possible with either BPXPATCH or BPXWUNIX. Set up your
> public-private keypairs on z/OS with ssh-keygen and copy the
> public key to Linux.
> 
> Do you have ssh working? The protocols are similar.
> 
> EBCDIC intrudes. Use iconv on z/OS, not Linux.
> 
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DIR ftp sub command

[Jake Anderson]

Hello

Cross posted

I believe DIR Hello (DISK will store the command output in my
HLQ.FTP.DIROUTP. but is it possible to store in different HLQ ?

Jake

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Re: SFTP question

[Paul Gilmartin]

On 8/31/22 23:45:20, Peter wrote:
> Cross posted
> 
Which groups?  IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE?

> I am trying to send dataset to a Linux server which has a SFTP running on
> it. Is it possible to connect the Linux servers SFTP using mainframe JCL to
> put or get the file from Linux ?

Might be possible with either BPXPATCH or BPXWUNIX.  Set up your
public-private keypairs on z/OS with ssh-keygen and copy the
public key to Linux.

Do you have ssh working?  The protocols are similar.

EBCDIC intrudes.  Use iconv on z/OS, not Linux.

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