Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
On 18/11/22 00:05, Dave Jones wrote: Now if it would only support GDDM style graphics orders like PCOMM does... Who actually uses GDDM? I use Tom's Vista and I couldn't care less that it doesn't support GDDM. Rocket Terminal Emulator Web edition can serve thousands of 3270 sessions on a single Node.js server instance. Rocket know how to implement GDDM but didn't bother with BlueZone Web as it wasn't deemed necessary and having to support it was considered future technical debt. DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ICETOOL / SORT capturing count of output records when using INCLUDE
Eric,
Here is another way to get the output counts into a single dataset. I also
used symbols , so that in future if you had to split for a different year, then
you just need to change the SYMBOLS and the job will automatically take care of
splitting.
//EXPORT SYMLIST=*
//SET YR01=00
//SET YR02=99
//SET YR03=98
/*
//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
//SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SORTIN DD *
ABC98
DEF98
GHI98
XXX00
YYY00
ZZZ99
//OUT1 DD SYSOUT=*
//OUT2 DD SYSOUT=*
//OUT3 DD SYSOUT=*
//REPORT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY
OPTION COPY
INCLUDE COND=(12,02,CH,EQ,C'',OR,
12,02,CH,EQ,C'',OR,
12,02,CH,EQ,C'')
INREC BUILD=(01,20,
12,2,CHANGE=(3,C'',C'100',
C'',C'010',
C'',C'001'),
NOMATCH=(C'000'))
OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT1,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C''),BUILD=(01,20)
OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT2,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C''),BUILD=(01,20)
OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT3,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C''),BUILD=(01,20)
OUTFIL FNAMES=REPORT,
REMOVECC,NODETAIL,BUILD=(80X),
TRAILER1=('NUM OF RECORDS FOR TYPE : ',
TOT=(21,1,ZD,M10,LENGTH=8),/,
'NUM OF RECORDS FOR TYPE : ',
TOT=(22,1,ZD,M10,LENGTH=8),/,
'NUM OF RECORDS FOR TYPE : ',
TOT=(23,1,ZD,M10,LENGTH=8))
/*
Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation
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Re: ICETOOL / SORT capturing count of output records when using INCLUDE
>> Can COUNT can be used to determine the total number of records in the output
>> files? I've not seen how and it seems only able to count the number of input
>> records.
Eric,
You can split the file into "n" number of files in a single pass of data and it
is quite simple to generate the output counts also in the same job. Use the
following Job which will give you the desired results.
//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
//SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SORTIN DD *
+1+2+3+4+5+---
ABC98
DEF98
GHI98
XXX00
YYY00
ZZZ99
//F00 DD SYSOUT=*
//F00RPT DD SYSOUT=*
//F98 DD SYSOUT=*
//F98RPT DD SYSOUT=*
//F99 DD SYSOUT=*
//F99RPT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
OPTION COPY
INCLUDE COND=(12,02,CH,EQ,C'00',OR,
12,02,CH,EQ,C'98',OR,
12,02,CH,EQ,C'99')
INREC BUILD=(01,20)
OUTFIL FNAMES=F00,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C'00')
OUTFIL FNAMES=F00RPT,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C'00'),
REMOVECC,NODETAIL,BUILD=(80X),
TRAILER1=('NUM OF RECORDS FOR TYPE 00 : ',
COUNT)
OUTFIL FNAMES=F98,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C'98')
OUTFIL FNAMES=F98RPT,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C'98'),
REMOVECC,NODETAIL,BUILD=(80X),
TRAILER1=('NUM OF RECORDS FOR TYPE 98 : ',
COUNT)
OUTFIL FNAMES=F99,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C'99')
OUTFIL FNAMES=F99RPT,INCLUDE=(12,02,CH,EQ,C'99'),
REMOVECC,NODETAIL,BUILD=(80X),
TRAILER1=('NUM OF RECORDS FOR TYPE 99 : ',
COUNT)
/*
Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation
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INCLUDE
Hello,
We're splitting very large datasets that have 3 years of client data into 3
smaller datasets containing a year of data each.
Can COUNT can be used to determine the total number of records in the output
files? I've not seen how and it seems only able to count the number of input
records.
I know the job output reports the totals and I could spool that to a temporary
file to capture it.
However, can COUNT or some other parameter be used to get the total for for
each of the output files?
This is more or less the JCL that we use:
//SPLITYREXEC PGM=ICETOOL
//TOOLMSG DD SYSOUT=*
//DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=*
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
//IN DD *
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
/*
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
//TOOLIN DD *
COPY FROM(IN) TO(OUT1) USING(CTL1)
COPY FROM(IN) TO(OUT2) USING(CTL2)
COPY FROM(IN) TO(OUT3) USING(CTL3)
/*
//CTL1CNTL DD *
OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT1,
INCLUDE=(12,2,CH,EQ,C'98')
OUTREC FIELDS=(1:1,20)
/*
//CTL2CNTL DD *
OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT2,
INCLUDE=(12,2,CH,EQ,C'99')
OUTREC FIELDS=(1:1,20)
/*
//CTL3CNTL DD *
OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT3,
INCLUDE=(12,2,CH,EQ,C'00')
OUTREC FIELDS=(1:1,20)
/*
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> On 17 Nov 2022, at 10:23 pm, Paul Gilmartin > <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:06:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >> Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than >> c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot of time in shells and >> this is a great utility. >> > c3270? A fairer comparison would be to x3270. > Nitto. X3270 is an x windows application. c3270 is curses, which is what tnz uses. That’s why it’s quite ridiculous to expect GDDM. > Does it support screen capture as text (not inage)? > > >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 13:44:53 +, kekronbekron wrote: >> >> It is cool indeed. I wish IBM did more to encourage enterprises (especially >> the mainframe domain) to use more open source. >> It's quite obvious now that open source isn't broke man's software; it's a >> place for very talented people from around the world to solve common >> problems, in a way that a single vendor cannot. >> Like how some folks write extremely performant this or that. >> > That's somewhat the way things were a half-century ago, prior to OCO. > > -- > gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
ICETOOL / SORT capturing count of output records when using INCLUDE
Hello, We're splitting very large datasets that have 3 years of client data into 3 smaller datasets containing a year of data each. Can COUNT can be used to determine the total number of records in the output files? I've not seen how and it seems only able to count the number of input records. I know the job output reports the totals and I could spool that to a temporary file to capture it. However, can COUNT or some other parameter be used to get the total for for each of the output files? This is more or less the JCL that we use: //SPLITYREXEC PGM=ICETOOL //TOOLMSG DD SYSOUT=* //DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - //IN DD * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - /* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - //TOOLIN DD * COPY FROM(IN) TO(OUT1) USING(CTL1) COPY FROM(IN) TO(OUT2) USING(CTL2) COPY FROM(IN) TO(OUT3) USING(CTL3) /* //CTL1CNTL DD * OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT1, INCLUDE=(12,2,CH,EQ,C'98') OUTREC FIELDS=(1:1,20) /* //CTL2CNTL DD * OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT2, INCLUDE=(12,2,CH,EQ,C'99') OUTREC FIELDS=(1:1,20) /* //CTL3CNTL DD * OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT3, INCLUDE=(12,2,CH,EQ,C'00') OUTREC FIELDS=(1:1,20) /* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Which program creates the $$GIMC elements in SMP/E entries?
> Which program creates the $$GIMC elements in SMP/E entries? GIMCPTS is a stand alone program that will compact or expand the element data within a SYSMOD. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=routines-gimcpts-sysmod-compaction-service-routine Kurt Quackenbush IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
Ditto for Windows users on the keyboard remapping - "Enter" should be "Newline", "Right CTRL" should be "Enter", "Left CTRL" should be "Reset", "PAUSE/BREAK" should be "Clear", "Esc" should be "ATTN", "Alt-Insert" should be "PA1", "Alt-Home" should be "PA2", and a few others peculiar to my personal tastes. The potential for scripted automation in python is interesting to say the least. Haven't installed it yet to try it out, but does it support alternate screen sizes (MOD-4, MOD-5, and user sizes like 50x160) or just 24x80 MOD-2? Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of René Jansen Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences? Just installed TNZ (on an M1 Mac) - looking good, and the more emulators the merrier. Thanks for posting this link, and the medium article, would not have found out how to disarm SSL on my own easily. I have to admit to mixed feelings seeing this: on the plus side, it is very good to release this open source. On the minus side, it used to be a Rexx related tool and was (afaik) not very generously given out to customers. I remember having to script ehllapi in Rexx to do some of the things this can do in a more simple way. For me, the time to de-Rexx this could have been spent to add GDDM support. But you don't hear me complain about free and open source. It is good to see the rexx.py source, which implements some Rexx BIFSs in Python - I have already saved that for useful usage. Being a ZOC user on the Mac and Windows and a C3270 user on Linux, I have to find out a few things. First and foremost, how I can get a LINEFEED on the [Enter] key, SEND mapped to right-ctrl (or right COMMAND on the Mac) and CLEAR to the right Option key on the Mac. Because this is how 3270 keyboards were meant to be used and most people who complain to me about 3270 do not know this. Secondly, I did not figure out the copy/paste yet. This is an important function that a lot of the commercial emulators did not get exactly right, and is also a weaker point of C3270 (depending in which shell you run it). The medium article refers to anti.py for documentation. Is there some more doc I have to be aware of? best regards, René. > On 17 Nov 2022, at 12:05, Dave Jones wrote: > > Now if it would only support GDDM style graphics orders like PCOMM does... > DJ > -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Just installed TNZ (on an M1 Mac) - looking good, and the more emulators the merrier. Thanks for posting this link, and the medium article, would not have found out how to disarm SSL on my own easily. I have to admit to mixed feelings seeing this: on the plus side, it is very good to release this open source. On the minus side, it used to be a Rexx related tool and was (afaik) not very generously given out to customers. I remember having to script ehllapi in Rexx to do some of the things this can do in a more simple way. For me, the time to de-Rexx this could have been spent to add GDDM support. But you don't hear me complain about free and open source. It is good to see the rexx.py source, which implements some Rexx BIFSs in Python - I have already saved that for useful usage. Being a ZOC user on the Mac and Windows and a C3270 user on Linux, I have to find out a few things. First and foremost, how I can get a LINEFEED on the [Enter] key, SEND mapped to right-ctrl (or right COMMAND on the Mac) and CLEAR to the right Option key on the Mac. Because this is how 3270 keyboards were meant to be used and most people who complain to me about 3270 do not know this. Secondly, I did not figure out the copy/paste yet. This is an important function that a lot of the commercial emulators did not get exactly right, and is also a weaker point of C3270 (depending in which shell you run it). The medium article refers to anti.py for documentation. Is there some more doc I have to be aware of? best regards, René. > On 17 Nov 2022, at 12:05, Dave Jones wrote: > > Now if it would only support GDDM style graphics orders like PCOMM does... > DJ > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
ZOC V8 … I’m on a Mac and it does everything I need, full keyboard mapping. From EMTec Matt Hogstrom PGP key 0F143BC1 > On Nov 17, 2022, at 09:39, Steve Smith wrote: > > I like Bluezone a lot, but relative to the amazing value Vista is, I'd say > it's worth about $32 to me. > > I did buy Vista TN3270 from Tom B.; but so long ago, it may have been less > than $30 then. > > sas > >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 11:48 AM Ramsey Hallman >> wrote: >> >> Unless Passport TN3270 has been renamed, Rocket Software has (also has) >> BlueZone, which is an excellent 3270 emulator. It was the company-wide >> emulator at my last corporate position. Individuals can purchase it (I >> did), though I don't recall the price. >> >> Ramsey >> >> > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I like Bluezone a lot, but relative to the amazing value Vista is, I'd say it's worth about $32 to me. I did buy Vista TN3270 from Tom B.; but so long ago, it may have been less than $30 then. sas On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 11:48 AM Ramsey Hallman wrote: > Unless Passport TN3270 has been renamed, Rocket Software has (also has) > BlueZone, which is an excellent 3270 emulator. It was the company-wide > emulator at my last corporate position. Individuals can purchase it (I > did), though I don't recall the price. > > Ramsey > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Other TN3270E Products -- WAS: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
I'm using VISTA by Tom Brennan Software. I have QWS3270 by JollyGiant which was acquired by Brandon Systems. The reason I went to Vista is because I couldn't get Brandon to respond to support questions. So far, VISTA is doing 99% of all the things I did with QWS3270 (haven't gotten into the odd stuff I used to do). I have used HOD (it did one thing that was good, and that was copy as table). Just thought you all might want some other input. Regards, Steve Thompson On 11/17/22 10:45, Schmitt, Michael wrote: And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors left: Micro Focus and IBM! Micro Focus now owns: - Rumba Desktop (Wall Data > NetManage > Micro Focus) - Attachmate EXTRA! (Attachmate > Micro Focus) Extra! is end-of-life, replaced by... - Reflection Desktop (WRQ > Attachmate > Micro Focus) HP has (had?) an emulator "TeemTalk" but it is a piece of crap. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 8:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences? Anyone else snicker at this, remembering how around 1999-2000 every SHARE Expo had a couple of new 3270 emulator vendors, who would show up once and never be heard from again? Not saying this Python version is a bad thing-it's a mature market and due for an Open Source replacement. Just funny after all these years to think that someone bothered! Tedious. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
Unless Passport TN3270 has been renamed, Rocket Software has (also has)
BlueZone, which is an excellent 3270 emulator. It was the company-wide
emulator at my last corporate position. Individuals can purchase it (I
did), though I don't recall the price.
Ramsey
On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 10:37 AM Harris Randy - Nashville <
james.harr...@hcahealthcare.com> wrote:
> Unless I am mistaken, Rocket Software still owns and supports Passport
> TN3270
> which is the best TN3270 emulator I've ever used.
>
> Randy Harris
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> And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors
> left: Micro Focus and IBM!
>
> Micro Focus now owns:
>
> - Rumba Desktop (Wall Data > NetManage > Micro Focus)
> - Attachmate EXTRA! (Attachmate > Micro Focus) Extra! is end-of-life,
> replaced by...
> - Reflection Desktop (WRQ > Attachmate > Micro Focus)
>
> HP has (had?) an emulator "TeemTalk" but it is a piece of crap.
>
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>
> Anyone else snicker at this, remembering how around 1999-2000 every SHARE
> Expo had a couple of new 3270 emulator vendors, who would show up once and
> never be heard from again?
>
>
>
> Not saying this Python version is a bad thing-it's a mature market and due
> for an Open Source replacement. Just funny after all these years to think
> that someone bothered! Tedious.
>
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Unless I am mistaken, Rocket Software still owns and supports Passport TN3270
which is the best TN3270 emulator I've ever used.
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And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors left:
Micro Focus and IBM!
Micro Focus now owns:
- Rumba Desktop (Wall Data > NetManage > Micro Focus)
- Attachmate EXTRA! (Attachmate > Micro Focus) Extra! is end-of-life,
replaced by...
- Reflection Desktop (WRQ > Attachmate > Micro Focus)
HP has (had?) an emulator "TeemTalk" but it is a piece of crap.
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Anyone else snicker at this, remembering how around 1999-2000 every SHARE Expo
had a couple of new 3270 emulator vendors, who would show up once and never be
heard from again?
Not saying this Python version is a bad thing-it's a mature market and due for
an Open Source replacement. Just funny after all these years to think that
someone bothered! Tedious.
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Which program creates the $$GIMC elements in SMP/E entries?
Which program creates the $$GIMC elements in SMP/E entries? Also, what is the average compression for ++MOD? Thank you. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
Tom Brennan Vista (after 30 days $30). On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 10:06 AM Schmitt, Michael wrote: > > And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors left: > Micro Focus and IBM! > > Micro Focus now owns: > > - Rumba Desktop (Wall Data > NetManage > Micro Focus) > - Attachmate EXTRA! (Attachmate > Micro Focus) Extra! is end-of-life, > replaced by... > - Reflection Desktop (WRQ > Attachmate > Micro Focus) > > HP has (had?) an emulator "TeemTalk" but it is a piece of crap. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Phil Smith III > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 8:42 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences? > > Anyone else snicker at this, remembering how around 1999-2000 every SHARE > Expo had a couple of new 3270 emulator vendors, who would show up once and > never be heard from again? > > > > Not saying this Python version is a bad thing-it's a mature market and due > for an Open Source replacement. Just funny after all these years to think > that someone bothered! Tedious. > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors left: Micro Focus and IBM! Micro Focus now owns: - Rumba Desktop (Wall Data > NetManage > Micro Focus) - Attachmate EXTRA! (Attachmate > Micro Focus) Extra! is end-of-life, replaced by... - Reflection Desktop (WRQ > Attachmate > Micro Focus) HP has (had?) an emulator "TeemTalk" but it is a piece of crap. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 8:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences? Anyone else snicker at this, remembering how around 1999-2000 every SHARE Expo had a couple of new 3270 emulator vendors, who would show up once and never be heard from again? Not saying this Python version is a bad thing-it's a mature market and due for an Open Source replacement. Just funny after all these years to think that someone bothered! Tedious. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
Can this be used as an alternative to tn3270 emulators such as Passport, Rumba,
PCOM, etc?
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:06:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than
>c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot of time in shells
>and this is a great utility.
>
c3270? A fairer comparison would be to x3270.
Does it support screen capture as text (not inage)?
On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 13:44:53 +, kekronbekron wrote:
>
>It is cool indeed. I wish IBM did more to encourage enterprises (especially
>the mainframe domain) to use more open source.
>It's quite obvious now that open source isn't broke man's software; it's a
>place for very talented people from around the world to solve common problems,
>in a way that a single vendor cannot.
>Like how some folks write extremely performant this or that.
>
That's somewhat the way things were a half-century ago, prior to OCO.
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Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
Anyone else snicker at this, remembering how around 1999-2000 every SHARE Expo had a couple of new 3270 emulator vendors, who would show up once and never be heard from again? Not saying this Python version is a bad thing-it's a mature market and due for an Open Source replacement. Just funny after all these years to think that someone bothered! Tedious. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
I wish IBM wasn’t discontinuing the Java version of IBM Personal Communicator, aka Stand Alone HOD (Host on Demand). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of kekronbekron Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences? Hi Tim, It is cool indeed. I wish IBM did more to encourage enterprises (especially the mainframe domain) to use more open source. It's quite obvious now that open source isn't broke man's software; it's a place for very talented people from around the world to solve common problems, in a way that a single vendor cannot. Like how some folks write extremely performant this or that. Things like tnz getting taken seriously within enterprises, is totally up to "industry push", a part of it will be down to IBM :) Otherwise, I'm afraid IBM's excellent work of putting stuff on GitHub will dwindle, again reverting to 'behind the doors' development. For this project in particular, examples of tying up tnz with Microsoft Flow or some such thing common in enterprises, will make it appealing for adoption. - KB --- Original Message --- On Thursday, November 17th, 2022 at 4:36 PM, David Crayford wrote: > Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than > c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot of time in shells and > this is a great utility. > > On 17/11/22 10:59, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > > There's a 3270 emulator (and automation) package written in Python that's > > available here: > > > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tpDJjnegzqi5m2K4xyR?h=n8jr34-QNFyVCcG_4W5FTVFP66iuvT3NoV4USeQeeiI==https://github.com/IBM/tnz > > > > You can run it on any platform that supports Python including macOS and > > z/OS itself. Any reports? Has anyone tried it? One of the fascinating > > things you can do with TNZ is to run it on z/OS, connect to z/OS via > > OpenSSH (using PuTTY or just about any other SSH client), and then start a > > "loopback" or other TN3270E session within your SSH terminal session. And > > then you can use ISPF (etc.) via SSH. (Got all that?) > > > > — — — — — > > Timothy Sipples > > Senior Architect > > Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity > > IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific > > sipp...@sg.ibm.com > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:06:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than >c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot of time in shells and >this is a great utility. > c3270? A fairer comparison would be to x3270. Does it support screen capture as text (not inage)? On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 13:44:53 +, kekronbekron wrote: > >It is cool indeed. I wish IBM did more to encourage enterprises (especially >the mainframe domain) to use more open source. >It's quite obvious now that open source isn't broke man's software; it's a >place for very talented people from around the world to solve common problems, >in a way that a single vendor cannot. >Like how some folks write extremely performant this or that. > That's somewhat the way things were a half-century ago, prior to OCO. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
I recently came across this blog about tnz. https://medium.com/theropod/3270-is-terminal-84d0af522cfd -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
Hi Tim, It is cool indeed. I wish IBM did more to encourage enterprises (especially the mainframe domain) to use more open source. It's quite obvious now that open source isn't broke man's software; it's a place for very talented people from around the world to solve common problems, in a way that a single vendor cannot. Like how some folks write extremely performant this or that. Things like tnz getting taken seriously within enterprises, is totally up to "industry push", a part of it will be down to IBM :) Otherwise, I'm afraid IBM's excellent work of putting stuff on GitHub will dwindle, again reverting to 'behind the doors' development. For this project in particular, examples of tying up tnz with Microsoft Flow or some such thing common in enterprises, will make it appealing for adoption. - KB --- Original Message --- On Thursday, November 17th, 2022 at 4:36 PM, David Crayford wrote: > Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than > c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot of time in shells and > this is a great utility. > > On 17/11/22 10:59, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > > There's a 3270 emulator (and automation) package written in Python that's > > available here: > > > > https://github.com/IBM/tnz > > > > You can run it on any platform that supports Python including macOS and > > z/OS itself. Any reports? Has anyone tried it? One of the fascinating > > things you can do with TNZ is to run it on z/OS, connect to z/OS via > > OpenSSH (using PuTTY or just about any other SSH client), and then start a > > "loopback" or other TN3270E session within your SSH terminal session. And > > then you can use ISPF (etc.) via SSH. (Got all that?) > > > > — — — — — > > Timothy Sipples > > Senior Architect > > Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity > > IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific > > sipp...@sg.ibm.com > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot of time in shells and this is a great utility. On 17/11/22 10:59, Timothy Sipples wrote: There's a 3270 emulator (and automation) package written in Python that's available here: https://github.com/IBM/tnz You can run it on any platform that supports Python including macOS and z/OS itself. Any reports? Has anyone tried it? One of the fascinating things you can do with TNZ is to run it on z/OS, connect to z/OS via OpenSSH (using PuTTY or just about any other SSH client), and then start a "loopback" or other TN3270E session within your SSH terminal session. And then you can use ISPF (etc.) via SSH. (Got all that?) — — — — — Timothy Sipples Senior Architect Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
