Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-20 Thread Arye Shemer
Thank you  Timothy,
we thought about this solution,
but customer requirements are: solution must be software in the z/VM
environment (no z/OS or other guests),
Regards,
Arye Shemer

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:18 AM Timothy Sipples  wrote:

> Arye Shemer asked:
> > Does z/VM have a product/tool of any vendor which can send backups to the
> >Cloud  (*no z/OS involvement*)?
>
> The IBM TS7700 can handle that via its Cloud Storage Tier feature. Details
> here:
>
> https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp5573.html
>
> For example, you can run your backups using Backup and Restore Manager for
> z/VM out to the TS7700, and then the TS7700’s Cloud Storage Tier takes it
> from there. Tape Manager for z/VM is helpful.
>
> —
> Timothy Sipples
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> Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity
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Re: Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:25:31 -0500, Jon Perryman wrote:
>
>The most obvious answer is incompatible entry point types. Language 
>Environment entry points require LE initialization whereas no pre-processing 
>is required for an assembler entry point.
>
Long ago (when "any" meant just one of two), I had a similar question about 
AMODE.
I could have readily envisioned a module with ENTRYs of various AMODEs which
contained suitable bridge code.  Alas, AMODE applied to an entire CSECT, not to
individual ENTRY points.  Of course such a module would be RMODE 24.

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Re: Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 16:38:54 +, Schmitt, Michael  
wrote:

> main module entry point is assembler (CLASS B_TEXT) 
> and the alternate entry I wanted was to IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS v6 
> (CLASS C_CODE).
>
>This is not permitted. *why* do all entry points have to be in the same class? 
> I thought a directory alias entry is just an offset into the module.

The most obvious answer is incompatible entry point types. Language Environment 
entry points require LE initialization whereas no pre-processing is required 
for an assembler entry point.

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Re: Can someone provide me with information on the DPSS subsystem

2023-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 11:20:00 +0300, Binyamin Dissen 
 wrote:

>Don't see references to DD SUBSYS .

SYSOUT= by it's very nature is directed to a subsystem. Typically, it would be 
JES2 or JES3 but it could just as easily be DPSS.

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Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 11:55:17 +, Allan Staller  wrote:

> The difference iis n starting/stopping the application is a service 
> interruption to the end user.
> The DVIPA activate/deactivate would be seamless to the end user

DVIPA activate/deactivate isn't seamless. First, it would require the 
application be running on the second LPAR running in standby mode. Second, 
current connections are interrupted unless the application has been designed to 
circumvent the problem. Third, you still have a time frame where the 
application is still unreachable albeit very small hopefully.

Each situation is different and a decision about which method best solves the 
problem must be made. The OP said his application can only be active on one 
LPAR. In that case, using activate/deactivate would not provide an advantage 
although it would work equally as well..

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Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-20 Thread Schmitt, Michael
I just spent an hour trying to figure out why an alternate entry point didn't 
work via an ALIAS binder control statement, before finally realizing it was 
because the main module entry point is assembler (CLASS B_TEXT) and the 
alternate entry I wanted was to IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS v6 (CLASS C_CODE).

This is not permitted. Now that I know it, I see the restriction is documented 
in the z/OS MVS Program Management: User's Guide and Reference:

  "Note: If the module contains multiple text classes, all entry points 
must be defined in the same class."

My question is, *why* do all entry points have to be in the same class? I 
thought a directory alias entry is just an offset into the module.


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Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
FYI, this is more than the OP needs to know to solve his problem.

On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 06:06:33 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr.  
wrote:

>Correct, it's not a "full router", it can route traffic to a specific LPAR if 
>the IP address as been registered.  

IBM says "not a full router" because they don't want us to contemplate using it 
as a full router and unnecessarily route all traffic to an LPAR. Why use 
expensive equipment when cheap equipment can be used. Ask yourself if your home 
router is "not a full router" because it discards traffic that is not 
registered. If you were to define where to send unregistered traffic, does your 
home router become a full router? 

>Not sure if it was true but I had heard that the I/O cards for the zSystems 
>were 
> single board computers using either x86 or PowerPC based CPU's 
> and running some form of either OS2 (early on) or Linux (later on).

Most routers today are Linux based. I wouldn't be surprised if OSA is running 
Linux but then again maybe it's running AIX.

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Re: Capacity on demand license activation

2023-10-20 Thread Jake Anderson
Yes I did mean CBU.

So I can activate another CBU license even when the LPAR is active and the
effects will take place immediately?

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 6:55 PM Radoslaw Skorupka <
0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> W dniu 20.10.2023 o 15:38, Jake Anderson pisze:
> > Hello
> >
> > I have activated the COD in our DR site for one of our production LPAR. I
> > understand every temporary COD license is valid for 10 days.
>
> Wrong.
>
> > Post the expiration Can I activate the new COD license while the LPAR is
> up
> > and running? If activated will it take an immediate effect?
>
> Yes.
>
>
> Explanation: COD is ambiguous.
> I think you mean CBU test activation. Both CBU and test are important.
> CBU is for disaster recovery, not for other purposes. CBU test is for
> testing your readiness for DR. And only for that.
> Every other use is simply illegal. The test is up to 10 days. Another
> test can be used. Note: the number of tests is limited.
>
> Other than CBU offerings:
> On/Off COD - you may switch it on and you pay for every started day. How
> long? Your decision.
> CPE - Capacity for Planned Events - You may activate additional
> resources because of some planned (means: it is not disaster) event like
> CPC relocation, etc. Up to 72h.
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Re: Capacity on demand license activation

2023-10-20 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

W dniu 20.10.2023 o 15:38, Jake Anderson pisze:

Hello

I have activated the COD in our DR site for one of our production LPAR. I
understand every temporary COD license is valid for 10 days.


Wrong.


Post the expiration Can I activate the new COD license while the LPAR is up
and running? If activated will it take an immediate effect?


Yes.


Explanation: COD is ambiguous.
I think you mean CBU test activation. Both CBU and test are important.
CBU is for disaster recovery, not for other purposes. CBU test is for 
testing your readiness for DR. And only for that.
Every other use is simply illegal. The test is up to 10 days. Another 
test can be used. Note: the number of tests is limited.


Other than CBU offerings:
On/Off COD - you may switch it on and you pay for every started day. How 
long? Your decision.
CPE - Capacity for Planned Events - You may activate additional 
resources because of some planned (means: it is not disaster) event like 
CPC relocation, etc. Up to 72h.


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Capacity on demand license activation

2023-10-20 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello

I have activated the COD in our DR site for one of our production LPAR. I
understand every temporary COD license is valid for 10 days.

Post the expiration Can I activate the new COD license while the LPAR is up
and running? If activated will it take an immediate effect?

Jake

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Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-20 Thread Allan Staller
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Either method would be successful in moving the workload. The difference iis n 
starting/stopping the application is a service interruption to the end user.
The DVIPA activate/deactivate would be seamless to the end user.

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:08:04 +, Allan Staller  wrote:

>That is not correct. The DVIPA and be started/stopped in a specific TCPIP 
>instance.
>IIRC, the commad is something like V
>TCPIP,,SYSPLEX,ACTIVATE,DVIPA=xx.xx.xx.xx
>There is also a DEACTIVATE parameter as well.

John Giltner says he stops his app on one LPAR and starts it on another. He 
implies that he is not issuing activate/deactivate for the DVIPA address. It 
would make more sense for IBM to automatically deactivate the address when it 
has no ports in use and to automatically activate it when the first listener 
starts.

There are times when activate / deactivate command is needed. For instance, you 
may have applications running in case of failover recovery but you don't want 
them used until the other system fails. Recovery would only need to activate 
the address without the need to startup the applications and resources.

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Re: Extracting SMP/e details

2023-10-20 Thread Allan Staller
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There is a REXX? API available. Check the fine manuals.

An alternative would be SMPLIST and parse the output with the tool of you 
choice.



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I need a simple process to get the following out of SMP/e

PTF. Fmid. Date received. Date applied

I am thinking of writing a Rexx or icetool to read a listing to produce the one 
liners

Just wanted to check here to see if there was a better way

I have not found much on cbttape

From time to time I need to show when fixes went in. So this just needs to be a 
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Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-20 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Correct, it's not a "full router", it can route traffic to a specific LPAR if 
the IP address as been registered.  If it has not been registered any packets 
received when a non-registered (unknown to any LPAR) address it will be 
dropped, unless you have defined one of the OSA's as a "PRIMARY ROUTER".  If an 
OSA defined as "PARIMARY" ROUTER in one of the LPARS's then all traffic that is 
received on the OSA from a unknown IP address is passed to TCPIP on the 
designated LPAR and the TCPIP stack does the routing.

Not sure if it was true but I had heard that the I/O cards for the zSystems 
were single board computers using either x86 or PowerPC based CPU's and running 
some form of either OS2 (early on) or Linux (later on).


On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 13:36:27 -0500, Jon Perryman  wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 06:59:43 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr.  
>wrote:
>
>>There is a Share presentation called "Getting the most out of your OSA (Opens 
>>Systems Adapter)" 
>> that does a much better job of describing how the OSA works than I can. 
>
>I only did a quick scan of the presentation. It says one of the OSA functions 
>is router. It talks more about non-dynamic routing. I didn't see a discussion 
>about dynamic routing with regards to IP addresses and ports. OSA is very 
>impressive.
>
>Thanks for pointing out the presentation.
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Re: Can someone provide me with information on the DPSS subsystem

2023-10-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Don't see references to DD SUBSYS .

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 18:51:44 +0100 Patrick Loftus 
wrote:

:>This any use?
:>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=mode-defining-dpss
:>
:>
:>-Original Message-
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:>Binyamin Dissen
:>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 6:44 PM
:>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:>Subject: Can someone provide me with information on the DPSS subsystem
:>
:>I am examining a dump and seeing that SYSOUT is directed to the DPSS
:>subsystem with the parm XMEM.
:>
:>Looking at the DPSS modules in storage I see compile dates from 1997 but no
:>useful eyecatchers.

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